Tikka T3x vs Winchester Model 70

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@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks Жыл бұрын
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@davidandersen4218
@davidandersen4218 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I found something. Good site.
@dnmerrill
@dnmerrill 2 жыл бұрын
I have two Tikka’s, they’re great rifles that function flawlessly. They really serve their purpose and serve it well. That said the model 70 is a superior rifle, a highly refined version of the greatest bolt action ever designed, the Mauser 98, an action that got just about everything right. Pick up a model 70, cycle the bolt and point it and you will start to understand why so many hold it in such high regard. It truly is an American legend.
@bobbyboothe8964
@bobbyboothe8964 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Winchester model 70....
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@erinoconnor9306
@erinoconnor9306 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see this video. It’s incredible how nice the new model 70s are. I picked mine up for around $800 and it’s an absolute classic. Action is smooth, finish on the gun is great and the gun is MOA accurate
@AJohnson0325
@AJohnson0325 7 ай бұрын
I just wish they were made in America. I heard they are made in Portugal or something? I’ve been interested in a Model 70 featherweight or tikka t3x hunter
@highplainsdrifter9631
@highplainsdrifter9631 6 ай бұрын
​​@@AJohnson0325 The Model 70s are assembled in Portugal at the Browning/FN Viana plant. The actions & barrels & stocks are still USA made. They assemble the whole rifle at the Viana plant and then ship them back to the States. Workmanship is superb on the Model 70 rifles; IMHO they're one of the very best factory rifles that money can buy. I had a Tikka T3x SuperLite for a few years, purchased with the intent of making it my lightweight alpine rifle. I bought it in 6.5 Creedmoor, first & only rifle I've ever bought in the chambering. I mounted up a Leupold VX3i 2.5-8x36mm scope in Talley Lightweight rings and thought that it would make for a perfect mountain rifle. However, as much as I wanted to love the Tikka, I just never did. It did shoot pretty good, not house afire status, but honest 1 inch groups firing Federal Premium 140 grain Nosler AccuBonds. I understand that sighting in only 1 load means that I could very well have left out an even tighter shooting load. I will say also that Tikka rifles come from the factory with outstanding triggers. I didn't even touch the one on mine, sucker broke like an icicle. But I just never warmed up to the plasticky-ness of the Tikka; the detachable box magazine alone was a huge turn-off. I did take the Tikka mule deer hunting a couple of times, although it never got to take down a big muley buck. I ended up selling the Tikka and have not bought another one since. On the other hand, I am the proud owner of six, hopefully soon-to-be seven, Winchester Model 70 rifles. Ironically enough, the only synthetic stocked M70 I own is an early production Extreme Weather SS in 30-06 SPRG. The rest of them are pretty wood stocked rifles, including a drop-dead gorgeous Super Grade Maple in 270 Winchester. I also prefer the pre-'64 CRF action on the Model 70 vs the push feed action that the Tikka is equipped with. The Tikka rifles are well made & accurate, very much a Glock of the rifle world. The M70 is like a fine S&W M29 or Colt Python, a beautiful expression of the gunmakers' art. I don't miss the Tikka, yet I cannot wait to add another Model 70. YMMV.
@sha6mm
@sha6mm 2 жыл бұрын
I like my Model 70’s and the safety is the best out there.
@yo2stix
@yo2stix 2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 tikkas. 308 and 7 mag. Factory ammo .5” and .75” moa with my first box at the range…and I am a very new shooter. Great aftermarket parts on Tikka. You should have compared wood stock to wood stock.
@deangustafson7533
@deangustafson7533 Жыл бұрын
I own both. The Tikka (t3x ultralite - 6.5 Creedmore ) action is smooth as silk, and the rifle is lightweight. Is is accurate. I purchased it for my nephew to use as he is new to hunting. I have four Model 70’s - 264wm, 300wm, 338wm, and a custom 280 ackley improved. Needless to say, I like Model 70’s! The 264, 300, and 280AI are all configured the same. But the 280 AI goes hunting the most often. I really like the claw extractor and the 3 position safety on the Model 70’s. In my opinion, those two things, developed by Paul Mauser around 1900, are still the best ever devised. They are both flawless. All things considered, in my opinion, the Model 70 is the better rifle. That said, it’s hard to ignore the quality of the Tikka. It’s lighter in weight - if that will be an issue for you (for me it is not), has a very smooth action and trigger. Is money will be a deciding factor for you, hard to beat a Tikka for the price. Pick up both, and see which feels better to you. Then buy it and go hunting!
@ericrumpel3105
@ericrumpel3105 2 жыл бұрын
Accurate choice.....because it's hard to reinvent the best wheel ever made.👍👌
@2017Toy
@2017Toy 2 жыл бұрын
Great review of these two rifles I love the model 70 I've never owned one but I probably will
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@thenugget7288
@thenugget7288 2 жыл бұрын
I gave up my Christensen for Model 70... that cheaper rifle is leaps and bounds better
@sergiov4847
@sergiov4847 Жыл бұрын
@@thenugget7288 i was stuck between the model 70 and a mesa, this just helped a bunch. thanks
@HikeHuntHaul
@HikeHuntHaul 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna knock the tikka, and I’ve shot them and handled them. I have to say they are smooth and the features/build is solid. However, I’ve got a few model 70s and they are the Cadillac of rifles. Truly the “rifleman’s rifle”. The action (full claw control round feed) is butter smooth and very reliant. I’d highly recommend buying the model 70 pre64 style. It’s an old school build with high quality. Now, if your looking for a deer rifle, especially whitetail…..consider the tikka for its cost but past that if you ever think you are gonna go elk or mule deer hunting; heck even Africa, go with the model 70. The super grade is so well built it’s a rifle of legacy to kids, friends, and long past your time on this Earth. I do not regret the money spent on any of my model 70s. I highly recommend and if you want an updated model 70 with say synthetic stock; they have those too. Well worth the purchase. @10:25 I agree with your review while heartedly. Thanks for sharing. Good luck and be safe out there. 😃👍🏻
@58harwood
@58harwood 3 ай бұрын
Wow, one of the better reviews I seen. Well done. And between my two favorite rifles, even better! Tikka’s for the range and the Model 70 Featherweight for the hunt! 👍
@classicrocker889
@classicrocker889 Жыл бұрын
I have a Winchester Model 70 and I Love it , it Functions Flawlessly and is so Accurate. I recently held a Tikka in 300 Win and that Rifle has a very smooth action.
@jamesbromstead4949
@jamesbromstead4949 2 жыл бұрын
I've shot both the Winchester 70 and Tikka T3x (super lite) in several calibers. The Winchester just "Feels" better. I have owned a Winchester Model 70, but when I shot my Weatherby, I sold the Winchester. Thanks for the review. I look forward to watching more.
@wooski9022
@wooski9022 Жыл бұрын
You like the Weatherby that much more? I’ve never shot one but I’ve heard good things
@edgarchavez4714
@edgarchavez4714 10 ай бұрын
Weatherby model and caliber ?
@jamesbromstead4949
@jamesbromstead4949 10 ай бұрын
@@edgarchavez4714 Mark V Deluxe in 300 Wby Mag, Vanguard in 30-06 and now 25-06. Both the Vanguards in Microfit Thumbhole stocks.
@edgarchavez4714
@edgarchavez4714 10 ай бұрын
@@jamesbromstead4949 i have a Remington 700 and 2 Bergara rifles do u think that the vanguard is more accurate then the model 70 i want something different I’m between a Weatherby or a winchister
@jamesbromstead4949
@jamesbromstead4949 10 ай бұрын
@@edgarchavez4714 I can't talk to all Vanguards. My 30-06 is at or slightly above MOA to 300yds with Nosler 165gr Accubond and just over out to 400 yards. The 25-06 has surprised me at MOA groups with Hornady 110gr ELD-X bullets past 400 yards. More accurate? No, but the action is butter smooth and the rifling is still as sharp as the day I bought both.
@steveschrodi2167
@steveschrodi2167 5 ай бұрын
Have a synthetic T3x lite in 300WSM and a walnut featherweight M70 in 30-06. Used to have a T3x wood stock hunter in 308--very accurate but didn't care for the Tikka wood stock and didn't fit me well. Love both my synthetic T3x and M70. The M70 is a higher quality rifle. For most of my hunting, I prefer the M70, but for hunting open country the T3x is my go-to rifle. If I had to pick one rifle for the rest of my life, it would be a M70. Have not handled another rifle that compares. M70 build quality, weight, CRF, accuracy, materials, safety, reliability, fit and balance are all ideal. That said, you can't go wrong with either a synthetic Tikka or M70 for any big game in North America other than Brown Bear (where the M70 in 338WM or 375H&H is definitely the best choice).
@918Mitchell
@918Mitchell 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, I was actually looking for a comparison between the Tikka and Winchester
@jonfisher9960
@jonfisher9960 2 жыл бұрын
Model 70 hands down x10
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@SeedFiddler-kp4eg
@SeedFiddler-kp4eg 3 ай бұрын
Great video! Quick moving. Detailed. Good information. Thank you!
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@tonysmith5465
@tonysmith5465 2 жыл бұрын
Very very outstanding video friend. Great job. Keep up the good work. Thanks a lot friend. SC Navy vet.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@thomasarnold5948
@thomasarnold5948 2 жыл бұрын
I own both so no one sided experience here. Anybody that thinks the Tikka is the better shooter is a fanboy and is repeating what they've heard. They're both fine rifles much more capable than the vast majority of shooters. They're both machined/made well but the the newer FN owned Win Model 70s are just better. The Win's action is one solid piece including the recoil lug which is much more difficult to machine and offers less parts. It's also easier to bed the stock since there isn't a separate recoil lug as on the Tikka. The Win's controlled round feed is the biggest difference between the two and preferred when hunting in bear country or somewhere animals charge. They are both fine rifles but I'd take the Model 70 any day over the Tikka. Also, something almost nobody gets... both safeties lock the bolt which is a necessaity for carrying on a pack frame. Nothing worse than your bolt catching on brush, opening your action and having rounds fall out (especially if you don't notice right away).
@FLAWLSS1
@FLAWLSS1 19 күн бұрын
I own a few Tikka’s as well as Sako’s. I’ve been eyeing the Winchester M70 for a few years, but haven’t bought one yet. Might buy one before the end of 2024
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 19 күн бұрын
Nice!
@zxej6879
@zxej6879 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Tikka T3x Lite 270 Win, and added a Luepold 3.6-18x44 scope. I have a Ruger American Predator 6.5 Creedmoor upgraded to a Magpul Hunter stock. I am mostly a target shooter. They are both intended to help teach my grandkids long range shooting. After they get proficient on the 350 Legend rifles. They already do well on the .22lr and the 9mm PCC rifles. Someday I will buy a Sako rifle. But I blew my rifle budget this year on a Desert Tech MDRXCOM .308. Maybe next year.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Wow desert tech is expensive
@zxej6879
@zxej6879 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bullets4Bucks - I worked a lot of overtime in the past 6 months.
@muddog2159
@muddog2159 2 жыл бұрын
I like wood and metal there’s nothing plastic on my Winchester 70
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
It is nice to not have plastic
@sloth_e
@sloth_e 11 ай бұрын
You needed to compare a t3x hunter with the wood stock. Apples with apples and so on. I have a mod 70 in 308 and a tx3 hunter in 223. I love both rifles equally. But my new sako 90 in 375 takes the cake. But thats new dream rifle bias 😂
@brettstewart6036
@brettstewart6036 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should have put the model 70 up against a Sako S20 that would be interesting good vid mate cheers Yogi 🇦🇺🤙🤙
@peterbanner4820
@peterbanner4820 2 жыл бұрын
Although they are both very nice and capable long Guns, it’s pretty clear to the experienced gun owner that the Win-70 is of a higher quality and build. How about doing a comparison with a similar Sako! Now that would be a better comparison…just saying
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
I got a sako but got rid of the winchester because i needed money lol
@steveditzler6014
@steveditzler6014 2 жыл бұрын
I like your comparison. I'm a new rifle follower, so your video give me a lot of good info. Congrats.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve
@gc641
@gc641 2 жыл бұрын
Liked them so much I bought 2 each
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@lanemendenhall7664
@lanemendenhall7664 Жыл бұрын
I love my tikka but if they made a left handed m70 with a maple stock then I would definitely buy one
@johnappleseed9290
@johnappleseed9290 7 ай бұрын
For me I see it as the Winchester M-70 the grandpappy of a good ol old school bolt action. Tikka T3x is a modern bolt action rifle done CORRECTLY.
@rob45x
@rob45x 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you review a sauer classic 100 xt ! Great video as usual btw.
@lavanice
@lavanice Жыл бұрын
90% here never saw or use Model 70. Tikka is good rifle , but it is cheaper verson of Sako . BROWNING x bolt is better then tikka and Sako is better then X bolt. Model 70 is diffrent league. Control feed. It is comparable and supreior to Sako Finlight, 85, S20 and also superior to Weatherby Mark V. But their are some expensive sako which are double price of Model 70 and here u get what u pay for. So for any gun you can buy under $2500 Model 70 is best .
@DonaldRussell-g9t
@DonaldRussell-g9t 3 ай бұрын
My model 70 trigger is set on 2 LBS.
@wesleyturner1979
@wesleyturner1979 2 жыл бұрын
If your going to Africa or Alaska I’d say get the Winchester. That being said I have two rifles I built (300 wsm and 6mm XC) on Tikka actions, you would have to pry out of my cold dead hands! The Tikka actions and even the factory triggers are top notch. The stocks suck. I would also like to see Tikka up all their barrel twist rates by one, but that will never happen! The Tikka recoil lug system gets a bad rap in this video but if you ditch the factory stock, you can get an aftermarket stock with an aluminum block integrated with a recoil lug as part of the block which is as solid as any one piece action/recoil lug design. In short, save weight, get a Tikka and ditch the factory stock.
@FLAWLSS1
@FLAWLSS1 11 күн бұрын
Upon research Winchester barrels are not forged, they’re button pulled. Tikka barrels are cold hammer forged
@kylebailey4738
@kylebailey4738 9 ай бұрын
I have 2 model 70 super grades the first is in 270win 24 inch barrel 150 grain nosler partition hand loads 5/8 group all day. The other is 6,5creed aaa French walnut got it early December haven't shot it yet put sig 3x12 on it will let you know how it shoots
@shootingthebreeze4432
@shootingthebreeze4432 2 ай бұрын
Model 70 every time.
@nickcirillo6191
@nickcirillo6191 8 ай бұрын
Winchester M70! 😎
@jaybailleaux630
@jaybailleaux630 2 ай бұрын
The Winchester model 70 is not called the riflemans rifle for nothing. I never owned one but handled , handloaded for , sighted in many. Always been a Remington guy because they were less expensive than the Winchester and a little more accurate. I need to get one in 270 Winchester. The modle 70 is the best designed bolt action in the wor in my opinion.
@frankmccarthy2624
@frankmccarthy2624 10 ай бұрын
A Sako model 85 or 90 vs a Winchester model 70 super-grade might be a more apt comparison.
@little2826
@little2826 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly i know i'm the minority already but i prefer Tikka. I love both rifles.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Tikka offers some great stuff
@nicholassteel5529
@nicholassteel5529 2 жыл бұрын
I thought your comparison was very detailed and informative.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks nicholas
@blindboyjonny
@blindboyjonny 2 жыл бұрын
Good review. However, one thing he did not mention was that the Winchester is 3/$400 more to buy. That is about 30% in today’s money. It should be better and more precise for the added outlay.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
True! At the time i got the winchester the base model 70 was close to the tikka but prices have changed and yes the supergrade was still much more
@OhshitPositive
@OhshitPositive Жыл бұрын
For the Super Grade, that's true. But the Featherweight Model 70 is only about $100 more than the Tikka that was shown, and is definitely more in line with an apples to apples comparison with the T3X being the light version. The Featherweight has a slightly lighter barrel contour and a slightly lighter stock. The Super Grade has fancier wood and better bluing, but the actions are the exact same.
@KolyaNickD
@KolyaNickD Жыл бұрын
Owned a T3. Don't ever buy the wood stocked version - it still has visible plastic parts around the bolt & action which cheapens the whole experience of owning it.
@iancurrie8844
@iancurrie8844 11 ай бұрын
You're completely right. the M70 is a vastly superior design. The Tikka is designed to be made cheaply and that's it.
@stevehess65
@stevehess65 9 ай бұрын
That 70 is a super grade, correct?
@stevehess65
@stevehess65 9 ай бұрын
When you said controlled feed that's why I thought that's gotta be as it's definitely not pre 64
@JUDGERAMBO
@JUDGERAMBO 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you got rid of it.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Rid of which?
@davidandersen4218
@davidandersen4218 Жыл бұрын
Why not compare a Super Grade to a Sako? That would seem more to apples to 🍎.
@Lucysdad66
@Lucysdad66 Жыл бұрын
Iam taking the tikka it's lighter and iam going to be laying it down on the dirt in a bush on a log and so on and not worry one bit about putting a scratch on the plastic and all my Finland made rifles will out shoot my model 70 rifles and i have pre 64's and newer none will shot like a sako made rifle..
@wesleyhobbs9
@wesleyhobbs9 2 жыл бұрын
I have shot a model 70 and looked at many of them before. I would say in terms of quality and finer craftsmanship, the model 70 would take this one. The Teaka is really nice, but the feel and build quality/components does not match the model 70 in this case. However, tikka rifles are deadly accurate and this particular model that you reviewed is very light weight so they did things for a reason, they made parts plastic for a reason. It’s kind of an unfair comparison for these two particular models. Both are very nice rifles, but I would prefer the Tikka as far as accuracy and weight goes
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
I love both but like the m70 better
@muddog2159
@muddog2159 2 жыл бұрын
Which taste better lemon or 🥭 mangoe
@Zapnes
@Zapnes 2 жыл бұрын
I would definitivly say mango. I would not be surprised if more than 9 out of 10 agreed with me.
@ULFISHGETTER
@ULFISHGETTER 2 жыл бұрын
Earliest I’ve ever been dang
@jmgates09
@jmgates09 Жыл бұрын
XBOLT IS THE BEST LOOKING TO ME AND bergara makes the best in my opinion but if the world was going Through the Last of Us shit n I got to have one rifle to lug around give me a T3x lite stainless in 300wsm n I'll bust up sum shroomies
@evanrodriguez4234
@evanrodriguez4234 Жыл бұрын
Lol I like how you said the last of us type s***, I’m debating between Weatherby V tikka tx3 and Winchester model 70 and Remington 700 don’t know which is the best one to pick
@jmgates09
@jmgates09 11 ай бұрын
I'd say Tikka t3x for sure then Weatherby then model 70 then rem 700 if brand new but if u can find a used rem700 n win model 70 from early 90s or older go with them back then in my opinion 700s are the best ever made n 70s not far behind but now in 2020s tikka t3x are best followed by Bergara ridge wilderness I recently got 2 model 70s from early 2000s from serial #s in 270wsm n 7mmwsm they are ok but don't compare to my grandpa's pre 64 model 70 in 270win but it isn't as good to me as my dad's rem 700 in 7mag he bought back in 1970
@evanrodriguez4234
@evanrodriguez4234 11 ай бұрын
I’m with you, tikka tx3 weatherby Bergara ridge and model 70 are all the top rifles on the market along with sako models Remington 700s too and the old school rifles typically are said to have better quality agreed, iv made my choice on the model 70 to be my first rifle I want either a feigherweight or super grade, and than I also want a model 70 safari for the biggest game
@evanrodriguez4234
@evanrodriguez4234 11 ай бұрын
Can you help me select the right caliber for my guns? What is the most versatile caliber that can take ANY game from small game to the biggest game on earth, I was looking at .300 win mag, 30-06, 270 Winchester and the 375 h&h. What do you think?
@ashleyvail4888
@ashleyvail4888 Ай бұрын
⁠@@jmgates09the new model 70’s are the best quality 70’s ever built. Stuff from the early 90’s was some of the worst winchesters ever made.
@ronbeckybeasley3566
@ronbeckybeasley3566 Ай бұрын
How and why would you do this video. The Tikka is a overrated piece of shit. And the Winchester Model 70 is the best rifle ever made. No even close
@terryhenry8243
@terryhenry8243 2 жыл бұрын
Tikka t3x vs Winchester M70 SUPERGRADE to be clear. Although the M70 Supergrade is probably $400 more to start with, my money goes with the Tikka. Tikka rifles simply are the best VALUE right out of the box. Yea, that Supergrade looks nice, but does it shoot with the Tikka? I really doubt it. OUT!!
@jonfisher9960
@jonfisher9960 2 жыл бұрын
Tikka don’t have a prayer against the Model 70 is the T3 rifle of the century and the Rifleman’s Rifle them accolades don’t come easy
@terryhenry8243
@terryhenry8243 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonfisher9960 Hate to pop your bubble Jon but yea, that Tikka will outshoot a model 70 just about everyday of the week, stock right out of the box. Besides that you missed my point. I said the Tikka is the best VALUE between the two for the money spent. And it is!!! Sako and Tikka were building rifles before Winchester was ever thought of. Don't get me wrong, I love model 70's and to this day I still own a couple of them but I've also owned 2 different 70's that wouldn't hold 5 shots on a 12" paper plate at 100 yards. They were both re-barreled at Winchester New Haven and came back fine. That said your famous old M-70's are now owned by Fabrique National and are all built overseas. Pretty they are, I'll give you that but as a well put together rifle, not so much. Anyway, take care and if you own a 70, ENJOY!!
@sergiov4847
@sergiov4847 Жыл бұрын
@@terryhenry8243 that’s simply false amigo, Tikka was founded in 1918 by Tikkakoski Ab. Whereas winchester was founded in 1866
@terryhenry8243
@terryhenry8243 Жыл бұрын
@@sergiov4847 Tikkakoski, with alot of history along the way to present day originated in 1893 in Central Finland. So, you are correct. Winchester is a little older. At any rate Tikka has had skin in the game for a long time and build one heck of a rifle for the money. I still believe they deliver the best VALUE to the consumer. I've owned many M-70's throughout my life and not one of them would outperform a Tikka rifle right out of the box. Thats my experience. Your mileage may differ. Take care!!
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