The Rise of TikTok Health Tourism... (and it's getting scary)

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@bionic_jaden4051 Ай бұрын

This isn’t an example of medical tourism because my dad’s side of the family was born in Turkey, but when my uncle was diagnosed with cancer back in March, he was told he had to get a procedure done as soon as possible to remove the tumour. Unfortunately where we live (Canada), there’s a wait list and he would have to wait two months for that. So he just booked a flight to Turkey to get it done over there. While the doctors did a good job taking care of him while he underwent surgery, the fact that he had to book a flight to Turkey just to get immediate cancer treatment because wait lists for various medical treatments are climbing higher and higher breaks my heart.

@beewest5704 Ай бұрын

True & he needed the support of his family & having to fly soon after having an operation is the worst.

@ShutupandListen 28 күн бұрын

But that’s, what you just described, is medical tourism 😂

@날Gnarleigh리 27 күн бұрын

Canadian health care horror story doesnt end there, I knew a lady in her 50s, felt ill for months and doctors didnt know what it was about, she book herself a check up at hospital while she was visiting korea, there she was diagnosed terminal cancer. Canadian health care system cannot be sustained

@zasheirali 24 күн бұрын

@@날Gnarleigh리 💯

@squirrel670 22 күн бұрын

@@날Gnarleigh리 I heard someone needed brain surgery and got it right away and they just had to pay for parking. Incompetent doctors are terrible, and a lot of times dismissive

@BurcuBabal Ай бұрын

11:30 - There is a huge difference between the prices because due to inflation in Turkey, one dollar is worth 33 Turkish liras. Monthly minimum wage in Turkey is around 450 US dolars. So, 1000 - 2000 $ procedures are affordable for Americans, but impossible for Turks.

@HighAsHeckPriestess Ай бұрын

One of the things I dislike about this is that in the US hospitals and insurance coordinate to pass along patient health information safely and quickly. I don't trust the idea of going to get treatment or even be denied treatment when they may not have access to all the info necessary to care for you properly

@imuRgency Ай бұрын

that’s actually so real i didn’t think of that!

@wlk3607 Ай бұрын

the way i STRUGGLE to get my doctors to communicate here in the us when they’re physically just blocks away from each other …. i think it may be hardly any difference for some people if one of their doctors is in another country. also when doctors are counting on patients to self report the procedures they’ve had then what does it matter what country it was done in.

@wlk3607 Ай бұрын

not trying to be rude to op btw!! if your doctors do communicate that’s amazing and it WOULD be an issue to then add in a doctor who can’t communicate/transfer info quickly and effectively. i just wanted to point out that’s not the starting point for everyone in the US sadly ):

@imuRgency Ай бұрын

not this is my 500th video....

@Ultraa_ray Ай бұрын

Oop. Not you putting in the work.. New Sub ❤

@BurcuBabal Ай бұрын

As a Turkish citizen, I know that people in my country live under high inflation and big economic difficulties. If you have insurance, healthcare is free in Turkey. BUT, since it is so crowded because of all the refugees from Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan.. it is impossible to find a place in public hospitals. So, for most of my people, private hospitals are a luxury they can't ever get. It is very sad for me to see Turkey's health system being exploited by countries with stronger economies while its own citizens are experiencing so much difficulty.

@CarrieMarieDeLoge Ай бұрын

Honestly me too. As an American who has considered this because healthcare is NOT affordable or accessible to here and what people here are doing isn't right, but I understand it. I promise it's not necessarily exploited like every day people and I apologize for my sometimes shady-exploitative country.

@mengume Ай бұрын

In your rude rant, putting the blame on refugees using up public hospitals. Did you ever think that Americans would also like to have a healthcare system that they can use in their own home country instead of getting passports, booking hotels, and flying to another continent to get basic healthcare or even Aesthetics? No, you put it in your mind that it’s a them versus us issue when really it’s an exploitation on all fronts of an issue on peoples’ health. If anything goes wrong; if they’re lucky gets to fly back to try to fix the problem or worse, they have to fix it in the USA, which would be even more because now it’s a corrective issue.

@regooona Ай бұрын

@@mengumeI mean,,, the solution is,,,,, not to get a bbl or whatever if you can’t actually afford one lol

@YourLordPhrog Ай бұрын

Girl, you don't have good health care because of Erdoğan, not because of refugees.

@polynarcs Ай бұрын

@@regooonalmao so in your little mind you think the people getting BBL’s and the people who are going to the hospital are going to the same place? 😂 A hospital and a plastic surgeons surgery are two different things.

@tay32112 Ай бұрын

“i wanna go to turkey” me during thanksgiving💀

@AikiraBeats Ай бұрын

I’m glad that you’re speaking on this. It’s a shame that we in the United States have to go these lengths just to get decent healthcare.

@dismurrart6648 Ай бұрын

You literally don't though. Our stuff is expensive and there's problems but there are a lot of amazing professionals you have access to, and we have some of the best compensation for doctors in the world. Like to give you an idea, the reason drs in the uk were striking was because they average 65k salary. That's what we pay drs during residency.

@frogperson883 Ай бұрын

@dismurrart6648 Wow, I am so glad that doctors get paid so much while people die because they can't afford to go to the hospital when something is wrong.❤

@dismurrart6648 Ай бұрын

@frogperson883 did you miss the part where you legally can't be turned away because of inability to pay? No one should even know that you can't pay. Honestly, as I said before, there are places that will literally let you die of a gunshot wound right in front of them, so pretending like that is the reality in America is kind of offensive.

@AmoreMiu 24 күн бұрын

@@dismurrart6648Pro bono cases are rare and few, especially when insurance is involved, they want money!!! Always ask for an itemized bill because hospitals like to add random charges that were not previously talked about, an extra set of sutures for example because a tech dropped some or there wasn’t enough so the doctor asked for more. Or doctor ripped a hole on one of their gloves so a new pair had to be opened. More tests, just to be sure, different specialist for different issues when they all root from one issue, and so on. These things are charged and they add up!

@simplybri3608 21 күн бұрын

@@dismurrart6648what should happen isn’t always what occurs and people indeed have been denied care for not being able to afford it. Insurance doesn’t cover everything and at times the portion it does cover still leaves a large amount for the patient

@aleco444 Ай бұрын

I literally have 6k in medical debt because my insurance apparently was gone, once I got a procedure. I was like, I literally just had it😭on top of having other isssues, it’s unfortunate. And don’t you Dare!!!! Have no insurance, then the doctor would pick the most expensive stuff to send to your pharmacy. Then you have to call them back to get better medicine. And that is a whole process, that I’m currently in right now. Sad times, but we still here!

@solarmoth4628 Ай бұрын

Many countries public hospitals have special departments solely for foreign medical tourism. The US doesn’t care if it citizens live or die. Only a small portion of people being underserved by the US healthcare system can afford to go abroad for healthcare. Most disabled/chronically ill people would have to save for years and would still need regular care and medication to manage the condition.

@dismurrart6648 Ай бұрын

Chronic condition person here. The us has some genuinely frustrating red tape, but you have it backwards. In the US, legally you can't ve turned down due to inability to pay and if you work within the system you can get a lot of that cost discharged. A large chunk of the world, drs literally won't treat you until you pay. They will let you die if you can't afford treatment.

@Causticfeline Ай бұрын

@dismurrart6648 I would honestly rather them let me die than be in debt for the rest of my expensive life to be honest. Yaay, America...(/s)

@dismurrart6648 Ай бұрын

@Causticfeline everywhere you go on the planet you're going to be in debt to someone at some point. Also, having worked on the hospice floor, there's plenty who go out crying wishing they had more time. But that is assuming the worst. Are you prepared to break a leg and not get it set? You ready to walk miles a day for the rest of your life with a painful limp? Or lose a leg to gangrene because you didn't have $50?

@Causticfeline Ай бұрын

@@dismurrart6648 You seem so have missed my point a bit, but that's understandable. I'd rather live somewhere where my tax money is put toward universal healthcare instead of propping up the already weathly but at my age and with the wages we have... moving isn't an option either.

@dismurrart6648 Ай бұрын

@Causticfeline okay, and I too would rather we had universal Healthcare. You said you'd rather they let you die than be in debt. I can tell you that's not realistic having seen people die, and that death isn't the only thing on the line.

@Tyler-he4pf Ай бұрын

I owe 2k to my local hospital due to a medical emergency. I had a seizure due to drinking an energy drink (first time having one and was my last). One Ambulance ride to the hospital and an over night stay plus a day later for observation I’m 2k in debt. 💸 I don’t know how and I don’t know why. I’m just trying to save enough to pay it off. This happened my freshman year of college. If I had 2k just sitting in my bank account I wouldn’t be pressed but I barely have $300 to my name.

@saldiamond Ай бұрын

Try googling the hospital and financial assistance. many hospitals will forgive your debt if you make a certain amount of money, but they don't broadcast this of course, smh. You can also see if their financial dept has info on that too since you're already sending payments.

@CoCo-ov9eb 17 күн бұрын

Same situation here, passed out due to food poisoning in college. Now over 3000$ in debt with insurance.

@kateb2643 Ай бұрын

I live in Canada, where things are obviously less dire, but some of us go to Mexico for dental work because it works out cheaper than just doing it here 😭 Free dental is allegedly on its way for us poors, but it's probably still years off

@zr3933 Ай бұрын

I’ll only believe it when I see it tbh Canada failing my teeth 😢 and we take forever to decide anyyyything.

@ajespinosa582 Ай бұрын

I just found out yesterday that I need around $7,000 worth oh dental work… I luckily live in a state that neighbors Mexico, so I’m just gonna get a passport and cross the border. I also need to get some inhalers for my asthma. Inhalers cost around $300-$400 for ONE here in the us but cost around $20 in Mexico over the counter at that. I just want to live and breathe without spending the little wage I do make here

@valeerie6423 Ай бұрын

ironically, as a Singaporean, we're incredibly stubborn when it comes to check-ups (even though it's subsidised for citizens). Some prices are just ridiculous and only the well-off get regularly done health/dental checkups which are done in PRIVATE clinics (no subsidy/very little subsidy)

@heartoftheqards Ай бұрын

7:55 my healthcare’s free bc of my service, but it’s soooo soo shitty. i haven’t sat with a therapist since early 2022.

@imuRgency Ай бұрын

and that’s not right!!

@heartoftheqards Ай бұрын

@@imuRgency at ALL 😭 i’m glad you started the conversation though, bc healthcare in other places really makes you look at America differently

@mewsyra775 Ай бұрын

@@heartoftheqardsI completely understand your struggles. My husband is retired USMC and hasn’t even dared to go to the dr since he retired in 2015 simply because he doesn’t want to go to the VA. We’re not married because I don’t want to have to deal with the VA for benefits. I have MS and I don’t need anymore headaches than I already have.

@LanaDelFay Ай бұрын

When a bunch of Tik Tokkers got inside a hospital which actually were the prowling grounds of Silent Hill Nurses and the Green Meanie from Scream Queens who sang Night Nurse by Cascada while pursuing them with a chainsaw.

@littleanina1 Ай бұрын

We have great healthcare in Switzerland but its still expensive & obviously cosmetic procedures (and dental procedures!) aren’t covered, so its very common to travel for medical reasons. Many go to Germany or Hungary to the dentist, esp for big procedures and Turkey is famous for cheap(er) hair transplantation especially.

@rocktheroadtowembley Ай бұрын

Are there extra insurances for dental procedures like there are in Germany? Mine covered for an otherwise expensive new tooth and deep cleaning twice a month. Wondering how this is in Switzerland in case I ever work/live there in the future 🤗

@mmmmmmmmaria Ай бұрын

@@rocktheroadtowembley off topic but what kind of deep cleaning is supposed to be done twice a month?! as far as i know you're supposed to get your teeth professionally cleaned twice a year, more often will wear down your enamel super fast

@dismurrart6648 Ай бұрын

With that first lady, id genuinely question if she needed all those tests, or if it was just an undisclosed ad. Unless you are experiencing health problems, you pretty much just need the normal regular checkup stuff. I think a lot of people take "i need to be proactive about my health" to mean "i need to get every scan i can just in case." This type of thing opens people up to false positives and exploitation by shady people. Getting unnecessary scans also increases your exposure to radiation, amd i feel like my experience of needing more involved healthcare that is actually expensive is getting coopted to convince people they shouldn't even go to their normal physical because "healthcare is expensive in America, you should fly to turkey.

@yageshabazz3456 Ай бұрын

It’s interesting hearing stories of people willing to travel to another countries for healthcare. I work in ophthalmology and see quite a few patients from Canada and the UK. They always say while it is free, the waitlist to see a doctor is months long.

@solarmoth4628 Ай бұрын

The waitlist to see doctors in America can also be months long too, switching doctors can be really difficult as well due to insurance and full waitlists. I moved to a different country temporarily for work where it’s almost free because I have national healthcare. I can see the doctor day of, within a week at the latest.

@shrimpyalfredo3933 Ай бұрын

@@solarmoth4628and dont forget, insurance can also just deny you procedures!!! So you either pay outta pocket or never see the doc at all.

@wlk3607 Ай бұрын

i hear this all the time from friends and family in those countries too.

@yageshabazz3456 Ай бұрын

@@solarmoth4628 that hasn’t been mine nor my patient’s issue. In my experience, people can get in the same week, if not the same day 🤷🏾‍♀

@marihelena6879 Ай бұрын

it’s the same in america but maybe it’s worse there

@brownenerdygurl Ай бұрын

Many US citizens in San Diego are walking across the border for extensive dental care. Yeah, I know, ironic. I saw it on a documentary. Tijuana has a huge med tourism industry. I live in Mexico and the Healthcare I've received has been excellent. I've been able to cut some of meds in half. My Dr's goal is always to make any medications temporary. Also, you don't need prescriptions for medications, so they're actually affordable. Many of my supposed "chronic" problems have disappeared. My doctor does everything, except the check-in stuff, during the visit. It's like I'm the only person there. There are some things that are different from the US, mostly the creature comforts and asthetics, but the medicine is sound and top notch. Of course, just like you would do in the US, you should be an active participant. Ask questions. Be proactive. Say what's on your mind. Advocate for yourself if you need to-something many Americans don't do in the US at all, with horrible consequences.

@lilwinborne Ай бұрын

Thanks, for an interesting video! I’m glad people can get the healthcare they need. I agree that if you need a certain type of treatment like for cancer that person should get it first. As someone who deals with migraines on a daily basis hope we get more options soon.

@Jackie-cl2qe Ай бұрын

If I had the money, bestie I'd be on that plain right now. We might have healthcare for everyone in germany, but only the bare minimum is included. And if you can't pay, because it's law that u must have and pay for healthcare, it can put you in potentially life ruining debts. So that's fun

@rocktheroadtowembley Ай бұрын

What are you even talking about? Its literally healthcare heaven here in comparison to most countries. You can go to any doctor and get an indepth checkup without paying for it becaue of your healthcare insurance. If somethings up or you need surgery, you dont pay extra. Maybe you should check your immense privilege first.

@Jackie-cl2qe Ай бұрын

I didn't say other countries don't have a worse healthcare system? Maybe you should check your reading comprehension, you sound like you're from twitter

@charlotte-7700 Ай бұрын

Only the bare minimum? Are you serious? Our healthcare includes almost everything

@Jackie-cl2qe Ай бұрын

@@charlotte-7700tell that to my disabled mom or my meds (that i luckily don't need for survival, but for quality of life). maybe you're not the main character, and your experience is not the only real one. Glad you're living the dream. Can't criticize the systems of oppression in your own country, because other places are worse, like two things can't possibly be true at once. Disabled people have different experiences with the healthcare system, but who needs intersectionality, I guess.

@cellochickie8873 24 күн бұрын

Legit went to Tijuana for gastric sleeve surgery in May 2015… Canadian citizen, tried to get it done here but the clinic covered by the health care system kept canceling appointments the same day and the clinic was 2 hours away, most times I was already on the way there when they cancelled… besides gallstones from rapidly losing 110 lbs in 9 months there hasn’t been many noticeable side effects. But gallstones are so common with that surgery the hospital I went in Mexico also offered gallbladder removal during the same surgery date… can probably say the surgery saved my life due to how suicidal I was at the time, and it “only” cost about $8000 for the surgery, flights, and hotel stay. Was put on several credit cards and my dads credit card mostly and took 3 years to pay off but still glad I did it

@samantha5588 Ай бұрын

That skit made me subscribe so fast 😂😂😂 don’t stop!

@DreyaJordan Ай бұрын

idk if you choose Where the ad breaks go, but "cough cough, two ads, money" f killed me

@craig6363 Ай бұрын

This has been going on long before TikTok.

@larose5028 Ай бұрын

The only part of this conversation that annoys me is those who speak as if any non- American medical provider is just awful. Meanwhile multiple countries like Germany are known to have some of the best healthcare and greatest minds in medicine. Medical tourism has its issues but let’s not act like a degree from a country far behind others in education is the only valid one.

@milodavis1 Ай бұрын

When i saw the title i thought you were gonna talk about people checking themselves into mental hospitals 😂

@marihelena6879 Ай бұрын

same 💀

@sapphic.flower Ай бұрын

I think just the framing of Americans seeking affordable healthcare with "influencers", "health vacation" and "luxury hospitals" makes it sound automatically bad . HOWEVER, as you said, this is not a new practice. Not just healthcare in Turkey but people travel for cheaper and more expedient access to things like gender affirming surgeries. If we're understanding of that (and hopefully we are), idk why people seeking basic healthcare is any different. A country prioritizing healthcare for tourists over its own citizens, the privileges involved, and the possible flaws in confiding in money-motivated healthcare--even if cheaper--are all its own can of worms but vilifying people who honestly just want access to healthcare is not the way to go.

@shopece8807 Ай бұрын

More often than not the work in Turkey is AMAZING too. I'm also considering Turkey.

@AmoreMiu 24 күн бұрын

South Korea is another country that sees many tourists just for cosmetic procedures. At least the citizens are able to get the same procedures, most Turkish and Mexican citizens aren’t able to afford those same procedures in their own countries and the tourists aren’t making it any better. Malpractice is also a huge risk! But yea, it sucks getting in debt just to see a doctor in the U.s.

@nellier3468 Ай бұрын

I have good and expensive health care. But it still cost me a thousand dollars for a simple blood test. So awful. We need to fix this system 💙🇺🇸

@ValenciaVixama Ай бұрын

i liveeee for the skits you do in the grinning of each video

@marieseaman7855 Ай бұрын

So ironic the girl going to Turkey is appearently so concerned about her health and trying to find some answers, but is traveling internationally and not once is she wearing a mask. Like girl, come on...

@newagehero9605 Ай бұрын

This is interesting because this opens the door for more people wanting to explore moving to other countries outside America because usa is getting more and more expensive by the day so this raises the question what id the government going to do ?

@gtg488w Ай бұрын

I just don’t get what my insurance is paying for bc I supposedly have top notch insurance but I still have to pay for the most basic stuff . I am so over America being backwards and ghetto in some areas . Like I’d love to get braces in Turkey but what if I need an adjustment? Would I need to fly back to Turkey

@Amandalamaa Ай бұрын

Same with the dentists, dental care is too expensive in canada

@trh89 Ай бұрын

Ooops I sure wasn’t subscribed! I am now! Love your channel!

@vee6372 Ай бұрын

Please that skit was hilarious 😂

@Everymonthisaugust210 Ай бұрын

I have a friend who went to Turkey for her boob job bc it was so much more affordable. She loved her experience but this was in 2022… This has been happening for a while.

@beewest5704 Ай бұрын

Alot of influencers & celebs in my country have had cosmetic procedures done in Turkey. Not only is it cheaper but good quality.

@ramenaddict1676 28 күн бұрын

when will they learn that you need like a million follow ups and re-dos after a plastic surgery?

@Jorge_theheathen Ай бұрын

When we reviewing this season of the boys on Amazon

@dominoparty110 Ай бұрын

I’ve never been so early, HEYYY

@sebahatkoseoglu596 26 күн бұрын

It is funny that normal Turkish citizens are not getting treated like this and some weirdos on the internet calling it the best. Also did y’all forget that every month at least a dozen people who flew to Turkey because it was “cheaper” ( also normal citizens) die because of these procedures even if it is cosmetics like Botox, bbls, nose jobs or serious surgeries ? They don’t care about who dies and try to cover it up. The healthcare system is not good in Turkey and all of these things on the internet is what they want you to believe. They are looking for them dollars girl.