Always enjoy Tim. Talk about someone living the exact life they love.
@JFoxman7 ай бұрын
The continued snub of Billy Wagner is galling.
@Josh-ut4wv7 ай бұрын
well hopefully 10th year is the one that gets it done as there have only been two guys who made 70+ and missed the hall all others that got 70+ not in their final year all got in that next year. One of those two got in by the Veterans in 1996 and the other is Curt Shilling so Billy Wagner has a good shot to make up those 5 votes. As many of the voter absorbers got in this year or dropped off due to it being their 10th year. There are some in 2025 who will get a lot of votes and get in but this gives Wagner the best shot to get in. Now even if he misses it here the Veterans will probably put him in.
@seamsWILD6 ай бұрын
1000% agree
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
I think he's a 9th/10th ballot guy and it's looking like 10 is the magic number. Hopefully once he's in it helps Francisco Rodriguez. And likewise with John Franco on the Veterans Committee
@JamesMaccarone7 ай бұрын
I know AJ can rub people the wrong way but I find his candor absolutely refreshing. He tells you how it is without fear of pissing people off.
@Dinobot27 ай бұрын
Yeah but he's still wrong about everything and is a hot take machine and is going by pure emotion. For a guy who covers baseball and played baseball he should do more than a glance at baseball reference before saying "this guy got in, so should this guy!"
@Michaelasoulin7 ай бұрын
He sucks
@BrutusMcCrunch6 ай бұрын
Miserable human being
@b259076 ай бұрын
There is a reason he was always voted as one of the worst MLB players by his coworkers. He sucks
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
He's a complete jackass,the exact same as he was when he played. Nobody can stand the guy for a reason.
@littlesame7 ай бұрын
Tim and Ken are ultimate duo
@carlowens97206 ай бұрын
Ichiro will get every vote in 25!!!!!!
@Rytoast993 ай бұрын
I am almost certain he will not be unanimous. There are voters that wont vote for players that never won a championship, thats just their criteria as wack as it is
@drewnevdecker31827 ай бұрын
Not fake news! Much appreciated. All interesting questions and logical commentary! Tim K and AJ are true legends! Kenny's right behind!
@Thaeffintruth6 ай бұрын
Sheffield shouldve been in. And Ichiro and CC deserve to be in next year .
@JD-yo3fo7 ай бұрын
Cc has 3000 strikeouts he’s a hall of famer
@nobeardthepirate91727 ай бұрын
Schilling has 3000 k too.
@JD-yo3fo7 ай бұрын
@@nobeardthepirate9172 he should be in as well. However I know the voters aren’t happy with his off the fields comments. But I truly feel cc having 251 wins and 3000 strikeouts gets in
@nobeardthepirate91726 ай бұрын
@@JD-yo3fo i agree on CC, i was just making a point of stats don't matter even if you've never been accused of cheating or betting or even actions. Shilling said unfavorable things but it's not like he beat his wife/gf or kids or has the kind of accusations toward Vizquel.
@JD-yo3fo6 ай бұрын
@@nobeardthepirate9172 I don’t agree with what he said. However I feel like the hall of fame is becoming confusing. It use to be certain things automatically got you in. Like 3000 hits or 3000k now it’s all over the place lol
@nobeardthepirate91726 ай бұрын
@@JD-yo3fo johnny damon has nearly 2800 hits and got 1 vote.
@addictedtoJB7 ай бұрын
Beltran Felix Wagner Jones Ichiro for 2025? Also, feel free to fill in the last 5 spots (I don't actually remember who's fully on the list).
@nobeardthepirate91726 ай бұрын
I don't see Felix making it, i would vote for him but, Johnny Damon has nearly 2800 hits and got 1 vote and fell off his firt year.
@addictedtoJB6 ай бұрын
@@nobeardthepirate9172 yes but, my counter argument would be; Felix spent his entire career with 1 team, and, I think, they take that into consideration as well.
@Rytoast993 ай бұрын
Utley will probably get a few more votes. I could see him getting to 60% next year
@patrick_m_GA6 ай бұрын
Great podcast guys! With all due respect to Mays, Andruw, and Torii, the Secretary of Defense Garry Maddox was the greatest defensive CFer I ever saw, and remember: TWO THIRDS OF THE EARTH ARE COVERED BY WATER AND THE OTHER THIRD BY GARRY MADDOX!
@dalemorris40926 ай бұрын
Aj is salty as fuck about Joe getting in
@georgeriley48186 ай бұрын
Petite was linked to steroids. So, you you really shouldn't compare his numbers to Sabathia
@MarioSilva-zv9yv7 ай бұрын
Spread votes amongst former vet players,managers, both hitting, pitching coaches, play-by-play, and last media. A Hall of Famer checks every box .
@Mountainman19655 ай бұрын
No, The media hammered the guy for several years before he got fed up with them and walked away.
@ryandeeken15546 ай бұрын
jeff kent should be in
@jordane199697 ай бұрын
Aj consistently sounds salty about mauer getting in. Probably due to him taking his job
@briankendall78784 ай бұрын
He's salty because he's a bitch, always has been. Dude was and still is very disliked
@shadowguy200047 ай бұрын
Beltran, Kent, Wagner, Sheffield. Clearly the BBWAA has a bias againts the Mets.
@OneEightTwoZero6 ай бұрын
You forgot Delgado, Johan Santana and Wright
@sammcmillan3006 ай бұрын
First ballot definitely matters.
@MrBentheretwo6 ай бұрын
Numbers alone don't make a HOF. Character is the least talk about reasons why a player deserves the vote over numbers. personally, i like a player that stays with a team through thick and thin. Who is great with kids on and off the field because, after all, they are playing a kid's game
@shanaeverowe96266 ай бұрын
Problem is, there are plenty of players already in for decades that are known to be horrible people. Talking outright racists, wife beaters and the like. Eventually the only thing history will remember will be the stats and awards
@MrBentheretwo6 ай бұрын
@@shanaeverowe9626 I'm may be mistaken but I'm pretty sure that some of the HOF players that make you're list have in their bio the history of the things that should have barrier them from the hall but I should look that up it's been 30 yrs since I've been to the hall
@ufc4debunking245Ай бұрын
It's the Hall Of Fame not Character Of Fame 😂
@Mountainman19657 ай бұрын
Can’t vote for Andrew Jones. Saw him getting lap dances and druck too many times.
@indyracingnut6 ай бұрын
I love how they just breezed right past Ichiro...like yeah, he automatic...lets talk about the iffy candidates...
@long-time-first-time7 ай бұрын
AJ is always defending the players with discriminatory blemishes on their record. Let's not play dumb. Torii Hunter will never make it to Cooperstown because of his relentless campaign against gay rights, and his comments about dark latino players.
@johngoldsworthy71357 ай бұрын
Oh gawd don’t upset the alphabet police
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
His WAR isn't as high as contemporaries like Edmonds, Jones, Lofton and Beltran either. That's the main reason he's not getting in. His Era is very crowded with excellent CFs. There's only so much room Jones is going to get in, Lofton should definitely be in considering he was probably better than Jones Edmonds in 20 years probably cracks through
@TheMess19986 ай бұрын
AJ...lets talk about Todd Helton vs Paul Konerko.
@Mountainman19657 ай бұрын
So how about Curt Schilling. You can’t tell me for the vast majority it’s a political game.
@kenw22256 ай бұрын
With 2001 and 2004 sock game. Schilling is necessary to tell the story of baseball. Plus his career was worthy with counting stats and rates. Definitely political
@muhammadrifqi73085 ай бұрын
Curt Schilling refused to be inducted if he was voted on by journalists (bbwaa). He prefers the era committee route. You can only blame Curt if the journalists respected his request.
@razkable12 күн бұрын
Steroids
@razkable12 күн бұрын
Cc should get in first ballot...
@dsnow426 ай бұрын
JR was the greatest defensive and offensive CF ever
@Thaeffintruth6 ай бұрын
2nd best .... Willie Mays was the best
@mikekeeler63626 ай бұрын
Butt having players do the picking doesn't always work either because you get some players who don't like this guy or that guy for whatever reason
@Walk-on-Wildcat2 ай бұрын
It’s a joke until Kenny Lofton gets in
@naturallawman29657 ай бұрын
What is up with all of this Chase Utley love from the writers? Rollins was a FAR SUPERIOR player and got a fraction of the votes. Utley won a ring in 08 & a pennant in 09 with the Phils and a couple of pennants with the Dodgers at the end. Congrats. But Hall of Famer? This dude was ultimately a bust. Had a very short peak in the late 2000s, never won an MVP, and the rest of his career played like Morgan when he was with the Phils, older. I don't get it.
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
WAR tells another story.
@GardenLove-yh3rv6 ай бұрын
Yogi Berra, Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig, Nolan Ryan, Mantle.....These are players that dominated their sport. The HOF has to be restructured so the criteria is at its highest. There are so many players in the HOF that shouldn't be there( 90+ percent). Take the voting rights away from the writers and pick a HOF committee of 5 of the best baseball experts and let them decide who gets in. It should be the equivalent of the Nobel prize to let a player be elected. 90 plus percent of all the elected players presently in the HOF are above average players but none of them are a Yogi Berra, Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig, Nolan Ryan, Mantle!
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
It's never been like this in any world,ever. It's never existed that way literally ever
@seamsWILD6 ай бұрын
Billy Wagner deserves better
@johngoldsworthy71357 ай бұрын
These old guys take baseball (children’s game) waaay too seriously. The way they’re treating AJ over pretty fair questions is ridiculous
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
If Pierzynski wouldn't be such a douchebag then maybe people would treat him better. The dude is one of the most universally disliked players of all time
@michaelmeyer27256 ай бұрын
Chase Utley shouldn't get in without a ticket. If Whittaker and Kent don't get in, then Utley doesn't either.
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
Grich also
@tommayrant22796 ай бұрын
CC is tied with Bob Gibson in wins.
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
The wins are irrelevant. If Sabathia had only 2500Ks he wouldn't be getting in.
@michaelbaucom40197 ай бұрын
Respect Tim K, but, only voting for 8 when you have 10 choices is wrong Mauer getting in on first ballot brings up this question: will the same happen for Buster Posey?
@christiansanchez38427 ай бұрын
How is it wrong who else did you want him to vote for??
@addictedtoJB7 ай бұрын
Remember that 1 time a guy voted ZERO in?
@jamaalgresham90927 ай бұрын
It isn't wrong if he only thought 8 guys were worthy of being a HOFer.
@nobeardthepirate91727 ай бұрын
Posey gets in first ballot even though he is ALMOST identical to thruman munson (not hof) when it comes to every stat. Its a popularity contest amongs writers.
@amihays74495 ай бұрын
Sour grapes from aj😢
@karllauritzen72027 ай бұрын
And AJ ...LANGUAGE,,,GROW UP TOUGH GUY
@johngoldsworthy71357 ай бұрын
Lighten up gramps
@thomascourt49356 ай бұрын
I agree. I want to be able to watch a baseball discussion between adults without a f-bomb coming in without a warning. Kurkjian's reaction when it happens says it all - it's a laugh that basically says, "Hey! Is the obscenity really necessary?"
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
@@johngoldsworthy7135 Has nothing to do with age. Pierzynski is a tool and always has been. I'm 30, I grew up watching that prick He was universally disliked by everybody for a good reason.
@mikekeeler63626 ай бұрын
What about Al Oliver Vada Pinson and Rusty Staub they're not in and they're Hall of Famers
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
No they're not. Oliver,maybe Pinson won 1 award the entire time he played and made an all star game in 2 seasons. Pinson is literally Johnny Damon Staub never won any awards at all and has no black ink. No,he is not. In no way shape or form are either of those two HOF deserving.
@mikekeeler63625 ай бұрын
@@briankendall7878 neither is Richie Allen
@mikekeeler63625 ай бұрын
@@briankendall7878 all I can say is if Frank Robinson used to promote Vada Pinson Frank thinks he's a Hall of Famer
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
@@mikekeeler6362 Wrong Allen's Black Ink and adjusted stats are insane. Unlike them he had the accolades in a shortened career It is not even close. Allen's adjusted offensive stats are up way up there historically. It's not debatable
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
@@mikekeeler6362 Then why was he only a 2X all star when he played? And won a single gold glove. He's literally identical to Johnny Damon. It's his friend what the hell do you expect him to say? Objectively speaking Pinson is not a HOF'er,he is literally insanely identical to Johnny Damon
@luiscurbelo585117 күн бұрын
Bobby Abreu > Ichiro
@RememberTheGreatsSports7 ай бұрын
The Hall of Fame in all sports, not just baseball, has been watered down so badly with so many people now voting. Nearly 400 people voting for baseball, that is the population of a small Midwestern village or town, no wonder no one can agree on who gets in and doesn't. I mean seriously Felix Hernandez and Dustin Pedroia? Why are they even on any ballot? Does anyone really think of them as the greats of the game? I don't even know if either of them were in even Top 10 players ever even in their peak years.... Wish I could make a living as part of it being to vote for absurd people in a sport. I mean there are some no brainers like Ichiro, but I'd rather see guys like Tommy John, Bill Madlock, Al Oliver, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker who have better numbers than the guys who get in now. I mean to put it in perspective Adam Wainwright who was by far a good pitcher for his era struggled to get 200 wins this past year for his career marks. Rick "Big Daddy" Reuschel has more wins than him. Do you even think of Rick as a HOFer? I don't..... Just my two cents as a fan, for what it's worth.
@nobeardthepirate91726 ай бұрын
Every player that reaches 10 years is eligible, if you cant understand that as a basic qualifying rule, then every opinion you have can be discounted.
@RememberTheGreatsSports6 ай бұрын
@@nobeardthepirate9172 Well let me rephrase then: I do understand the rule, I am saying why would anyone waste votes on people who clearly are not at that level, it seems like a waste of everyone's time The whole system is flawed. I do not know the original voting numbers historically, but I highly doubt it was 400 voters. But if you want to attack me then fine attack me, just saying the system isn't right.
@acruzro956 ай бұрын
@RememberTheGreatsSports I agree with your take. The caveat is however that some players fall out of the ballot and new ones need to be added. For example, let's assume Andrew Jones doesn't get in the HOF but then a worse centerfielder gets in 10 years from now with worse numbers just because he became eligible in an easier year .
@acruzro956 ай бұрын
@@RememberTheGreatsSportsI put that parentheses because you compared an old pitcher that used to be doing 7 8 9 innings a start vs wainwright who pitched in the era of 6 innings or less.
@nobeardthepirate91726 ай бұрын
@@RememberTheGreatsSports you mentioned pitcher wins like the matter. People with your attitude is why Johnny Damon who has 2700+ hits, 500 + doubles, 1500+ runs, 1000+ rbi, 400+ steal, 1000+ walks. Get a single vote.
@HDobson246 ай бұрын
Why are postseason numbers hardly looked at in HOF voting? Manny Ramirez has the most postseason home runs and Andy Pettitte has the most wins and they can’t even get 50% of the ballot.
@briankendall78784 ай бұрын
PEDs
@godjupiter57557 ай бұрын
The Hall is a joke. Everybody and anybody gets in. Look at the jokes of the last 30 years? Compare them to the talents that got in the 30 years prior.
@StopSayingLiterally7 ай бұрын
I'm 65. Today's players are better than the ones I watched as a kid in the '60s and '70s.
@godjupiter57557 ай бұрын
@StopSayingLiterally I grew up at the same time. I don't know what is failing you, your memory, or your eyesight, but no way Mauer is any Johnny Bench
@nobeardthepirate91727 ай бұрын
Whats you opinion of Edgar?
@RememberTheGreatsSports7 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@briankendall78785 ай бұрын
You may want to actually educate yourself on whose actually in,this is not true and never has been.
@robertlowrie84466 ай бұрын
4:30 Mauer played defense, Posada didn't.
@razkable12 күн бұрын
Dh and first base is defense now..they both played catcher lol
@robertlowrie844612 күн бұрын
@@razkable Posada played catcher but not defense. Mauer was an all-time great arm and glove, posada was just a good hitter who could get by at catcher.
@razkable12 күн бұрын
Posada is a cheater...
@dcrawford9282 ай бұрын
I take Jimmy Rollins over Utley in opinion.
@dark_knight_33046 ай бұрын
AJ thinks Tori is better than Griffey? I’m just saying cause he said he played with Tori and he’s the best he ever saw but he also played like 3 month with Griffey in Chicago me personally imo I’m taking Griffey over Tori and I love Tori one of my favorite outfielder growing up
@razkable12 күн бұрын
With older jr...
@michael-rc5pv6 ай бұрын
Mauer isn't a hofer i don't care what these 2 are saying and AJ is right batting average doesn't matter that's all you hear
@froddo4206 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but this tells me you didn't watch enough of Joe mauer
@briankendall78784 ай бұрын
Yeah, sorry. But you do not know what you are talking about.