Tim Spector at King's College London - The Diet Myth

[@iefarrington5473]

Hello Doctor Spector, ... I could (and do) ..listen to your advice for ever...! Thank you for all the knowledge which you share..! Valérie ❤️

[@martinirving3824]

I actually think part of the problem with the Western industrial diet is a lot of the food (that many seem to subsist on) is non-perishable. Non-perishable food is designed for long shelf life. It is devoid of living organic material, particularly microbes. Our microbiota doesn't know what to do with such sterile stuff, I imagine.

[@xxpowwowbluexx]

I think you are onto something.

[@kencarey3477]

Breakfast came about by farmers. They got up super early and did a few chores then came in for a large breakfast before going out to work hard until lunch

[@sebacatana]

What is the name of the bacteria he mentions is "fat busting"? (17:42)

[@helensmith9153]

Is Tim talking about Faecal transplant around timestamp 40. I know people whose ME has been vastly improved with this procedure. It's probably more recognised now 6 years on but expensive privately.

[@dorisvoo9743]

This is five years ago and he innocently joked about deadly virus.😮

[@JennyColwell-tb6cm]

Dairy cows are never given antibiotics as prevention or regularly. Why? because you cannot make yoghurt or cheese with milk with the smallest trace of antibiotics. All milk is tested everyday at the point where it is picked up from the farm by the milktanker. If you ( as a farmer) pollute a whole tanker load of milk with antibiotics... you get the book thrown at you. If a cow has to be treated because of infection etc then the milk has to be with held for 3 to 14 days depending on the type of antibiotic used. The treament is expensive and the with holding of milk is expensive, so antibiotics are only used on a strictly needed basis. Apart from that casual comment by Tim the rest seemed good.

[@johnschlesinger2009]

I cannot imagine where the professor got the notion that boa constrictors eat pigs from. Even the largest subspecies, the true red tail boas - boa constrictor constrictor - generally are no longer than eight or nine feet, and the largest prey that they take would be a rabbit - and in the wild they are unlikely to feed more than every two months. They do not "fast' during this time: they have a very slow rate of digestion, and very low energy needs, because they are ectothermic, and are generally inactive. The only snakes capable of eating adult pigs are green anacondas and reticulated pythons - the two largest snakes in the world. I found this lecture absolutely fascinating though.

[@fcsoldeu5338]

From this amazing presentation is this the best your brain got? mamma mia.. Anyways, boas can grow up to 13 feet long and weigh more than 100 pounds. Their jaws are lined with small, hooked teeth for grabbing and holding prey while they wrap their muscular bodies around their victim, squeezing until it suffocates. Boas will eat almost anything they can catch, including birds, monkeys, and wild pigs. Their jaws can stretch wide to swallow large prey whole.

[@Anchorhillhartley]

baby pigs are not that big

[@adrianhepton9362]

Descartes :I think therefore I am, Spector I poo therefore I am :)

[@shahnazbi8346]

Dr Spector said Inshallah. Mash'allah 😍

[@woodlakesound]

What diet reverses heart disease?

[@thalesnemo2841]

Go carnivore for the evolutionary appropriate human diet!

[@woodlakesound]

@@thalesnemo2841 for heart disease yes!

[@erikalucas769]

A whole food plant based diet. Look up Dr Dean Ornish MD

[@martinrogers6059]

Whole Food Plant Based diet reverses every degenerative disease of Modern Culture. ✌️😉👍

[@Luv-x8k]

5 yrs after this lecture and still no good way as a consumer to get the flora needed. Also at one time I had a tapeworm so you can get the bad from the garden as well.

[@MaokiDLuffy]

29:25

[@zephyrlibs]

Who is to say he's not backed by Lactalis? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactalis

[@vatsmith8759]

Read his research papers where he has to declare where his funding comes from.

[@dibble2005]

So how do we just get these probiotics. These supplements are very expensive and having the time to cook the vegetables is prohibitive.

[@toni4729]

Natives anywhere in the world couldn't be vegans or even vegetarians. Look at what is available in the Australain bush to eat, or even the African forest. People would die in no time at all. This is the same no matter where in the world you are. Our supermarket food has been manufactured and wouldn't be found in a native form anywhere. Fruit only grows once a year on any tree or vine so you can't survive on it, it simply isn't there to eat.

[@moonbeampunkweazel3294]

Some fruit trees produce fruit on a constant basis, others individually fruit at different times meaning that fruit availability is staggered from one tree in one area to another in another area. Also different types of tree may produce fruit at different times. Remember we evolved very near or on the equator, and seasons are not the same there at all and there isn't really an "autumn harvest" of fruit and berries the way there is in temperate climates. Quite a lot of animals move around from one patch to another depending on where the fruit is at that moment, and fruit has clearly played a significant role in our ancestor species' evolution as our eyes are able to distinguish red and green to spot ripe fruit more easily.

[@toni4729]

@@moonbeampunkweazel3294 I'd like to know what they are. How far do you think natives walked to find fruit out of season. Also, are you suggesting they could be vegans?

[@moonbeampunkweazel3294]

@@toni4729 oh hi! didn't think you'd see my comment. This has actually been studied with modern apes (and other animals but apes are the relevant ones I guess). I'm not just making this stuff up. I couldn't tell you how far they will go, and it probably depends on the habitat and species, but it's absolutely something that they do. I think a good place to start would be by looking up fig trees. There is a good documentary about wild figs in Africa and all of the wildlife they support, and how they fruit at different times and the animals seek them out. Some animals (elephants come to mind although they aren't apes - edit I think the elephants were eating acacia fruit?) remember where the good trees are and at what times and will travel quite far. I think maybe you are misunderstanding and imagining that I mean that ancient hominids survived solely on fruit, but obviously that's not the case. I was simply pointing out that fruit doesn't follow the same pattern in the tropics that it does in Europe, for example. I think one theory about why our ancestors started relying more on meat was that with the drying of the savannah, fruit trees became much more scarce and it was no longer a reliable form of sustenance. Another documentary/study you might want to look up was where a couple of researchers tried to live as anthropithecus for a month or two. They did manage to (sort of) approximate the diet and lifestyle, but it was hard work and they absolutely needed to scavenge from carcasses to get enough nutrition, but fruit did play a part too. If you want a more prosaic example of a tree that fruits constantly, lemon trees are known for this and my Dad used to have one in his front garden. Always full of lemons, and there were always loads of ripe ones. I don't think lemons are a "natural" fruit, but I imagine whatever their ancestors were probably did something similar (maybe).

[@toni4729]

@@moonbeampunkweazel3294 Coconuts are around all year round and as far as I'm aware, that is the only plant that has fruit all year round, but of course it isn't all over the planet. It isn't considered a fruit all year found. It doesn't fall the way soft fruits fall. I was of course talking about people in the first place, not elephants. And (if you remember) vegans. It would have been impossible for such a creature to survive and I stand by that. Until, the 1960s there was no such thing as a human vegan.

[@moonbeampunkweazel3294]

@@toni4729 Oh I'm not making any argument about vegans, one way or the other. Elephants just occurred to me at random although I know you are more interested in humans and human ancestors. Coconuts are absolutely not the only plants that have fruit year-round. I already told you about the lemon tree and there are probably others but I'm not a Botanist or anything. Also, as I tried to explain (probably poorly) individual trees may only fruit once per year, but other trees of the same species may fruit at a different time so the fruiting is staggered. I have read that there are no vegan indigenous societies (I was going to say "hunter gatherers" until I realised how much of a tautology that was). I just looked up Jainism to be sure, and they are traditionally allowed to eat dairy foods and vegan Jains are a recent development. I don't know much specifically about the history of veganism but it would surprise me if there weren't some early pioneers in the early 1900s as there was a big obsession with diet and "clean eating" at the time (although they didn't call it that), and I think vegetarianism in a Western context goes back at least into the 19th century (judging by old menus I have seen online). But yeah, the dairy element is very important. I have a bit of an issue at the moment because I went pescatarian (I went off meat, but also have welfare concerns), and actually often don't eat fish for weeks on end, but also eat very little dairy and forget to eat that too. I'm not vegan, and in fact I have been considering going out for a beef roast dinner today (local beef, small farms, happy cows etc). I'm a bit worried that I'm not getting enough calcium and not entirely sure about B12 and iron, and god knows what else. I'm probably going about this in the worst possible way and just randomly dropping things from my diet without doing the research to make sure I'm getting all of the right nutrition. I went through a few weeks of fierce meat cravings, so stepped up my protein intake and took a multivitamin with iron for a while. But the nutritionist suggested I talk to the pharmacist about calcium tablets and the pharmacist refused to sell me any because I have stage 4 kidney disease, and told me I need to have blood tests and get calcium prescribed by the kidney team. Anyway, you don't need to know all that. I think the point I'm trying to make is that dairy (and probably meat, especially red meat or offal) is actually an important part of the human diet and if you're not going to eat it you need to be really careful and know what you're doing or you end up in trouble. I actually have arranged to meet a local pig farmer at the next market day to buy some offal - they have pigs that live outside, they had pictures and information about the pigs, and they have names and all of that. They don't have everything available all the time like a supermarket, you have to catch them when they slaughter a pig and buy what is there. So I'm going to cook some liver and onions maybe, or possibly something weirder ... Anyway, I only know the stuff I wrote about earlier because I am interested in human evolution and watch a lot of lectures and read a lot of articles on the topic, but I wasn't expecting a written test or anything ... I hadn't watched the video here yet when I wrote my comment either, so it wasn't tailored to anything he says in this talk. Look up that fig documentary though, I think it *may* be called fig, queen of trees or something? and the australopithecus experiment. (It wasn't exactly rigorous science but it is quite entertaining to think of 2 modern humans wandering about on the plains of Africa trying to survive. I'm just sorry I can't remember if it's a video or an article).

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

Tim Spector would have a point if he could show that consuming fewer calories than needed would make people fatter. Showing that would surely earn him a Nobel prize.

[@peterburns1153]

Surely 2 control groups eating the same calories but eating different types of foods and seeing markedly different results is a better experiment. Read the book... The chapter on how they measure calories in food and why it's not a good measure of a foods effects is worth the price on its own.

[@angelacrutcher2308]

It's true what he says because what makes you gain weight is all the process food chips candy crackers fast food because that doesn't make you full because you continue to fill hungry so you eat more but when you consume fats you feel fuller im doing that now I eat meat cheese fruits and salads and fish and I have lost seven pounds and I fast some but I doint feel as hungry as I used to. and hes right we do need fat but eating alot of process food and low fat food will make you gain weight.

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

@@peterburns1153 The point is that he misinterprets what is going on. It is astonishing, because unless the education system in the UK is different, he has been shown exactly what is going on, how to interpret it and how to verify it. But: things are relatively simple at the basis: IF you have an excess of energy, you *will* gain weight. Keep it up for long enough and you *will* become sicker and sicker and eventually die. IF you have an energy deficit, you *will* lose weight. Keep it up for long enough and you *will* become leaner and leaner and eventually become sick and die. The mechanisms are complicated and far from fully understood, but they unimportant, because they do not change the reality of the situation, only the way that reality is expressed.

[@namasanda]

Doctors don't like Vitamins. Obviously.

[@vatsmith8759]

That's not what he said.

[@1967davidfitness]

Tim does get confused when it comes to Autism. There is no link between diet and Autism, also, Autism is not a mental health issue. I wish he would keep away from Autism, but I love his research into food and diet.

[@xanthefletcher6414]

Hey, you may not be aware, but there is research being carried out into poo and autism and the findings are suggesting that there is a link. There are some podcasts that were talking about it years ago. Best, Xanthe

[@NikoHL]

@golfpro Autism is not a mental illness or Mental Health issue. It's neurological. Youre also wrong about there being no link between the Gut and the brain.. So Prof Spector is 100% correct.. So shut it, Einstein.

[@1967davidfitness]

@@xanthefletcher6414 Tim Spector is not an autism researcher, he sells diet books.

[@1967davidfitness]

@@NikoHL Shut it? I am autistic and autism is a genetic condition. It is a neurological developmental condition, it's a lifelong disabilty, and you really think a diet will make a difference? I can't beleive anyone could be so naive and gullible as you are. Tim Spector is a pseudoscientist, you are an idiot.

[@jenm4721]

You're right that Autism is not a mental health issue, but there have been many accounts that show how diet can effect the way your brain works. There is so much that we don't know about how the body and brain works, or even what causes autism and aspergers. I say eat well and get the body and brain working as well as we can. There is no silver magic bullet, but many have improved their quality of life by changing their diet. So much we still need to learn! 😉

[@seans4893]

spreading many myths on his own

[@martinirving3824]

Try a little specificity.

[@getmartincarter]

He compares two bad diets , one worse than the other , and concludes that the Mediterranean Diet the best despite the fact that it contains proven carcinogens such as meat , eggs dairy plus refined vegetable oils from Olives

[@1967davidfitness]

Utter bunkum!

[@nikolasm.7415]

@@getmartincarter refined vegetable (olive) oils in Mediterranean diet? Only virgin and extra virgin olive oil, preferably cold pressed, are part of this diet.

[@nikolasm.7415]

@@getmartincarter meat is very rare in Mediterranean Diet. It's safe to say that it's not part of the diet.