Time for a RANT!

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The Scale Modelling Cafe with Jamie Haggo

The Scale Modelling Cafe with Jamie Haggo

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@garys_stuff
@garys_stuff Жыл бұрын
With you 100% Jamie. I want my viewers to understand that what I say comes from a place of honesty. Anything else is advertising and they'd be paying me a shedload of money rather than simply sending me a box of plastic to review. The companies want honest feedback, my viewers want to know about any potential pitfalls and how to avoid them. To be fair, anyone who thinks I do otherwise is welcome not to watch, it isn't compulsory. I've told companies what I think, good and bad, yet they still send me stuff to review. If they expected anything else they wouldn't. My ultimate position is that, if these people think they can do better then it's easy enough to start a KZbin channel with a smartphone. But I, like you Jamie, know that what we do comes from a place of integrity and honesty and there is no point in anything else. Good to have a rant now and then, and keep the content coming mate, loving what you do!
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary, I enjoy yours too mate!
@ronaldbyrne3320
@ronaldbyrne3320 Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@kitbuster
@kitbuster Жыл бұрын
Nice rant, totally agree with you and as a consumer I want honesty warts and all if needed, I’ll make a decision based on the consensus of several trusted reviewers including yourself. Keep up the reality and fact checks, they need to be heard 👍PS I watched a new modeller getting destroyed on one of the FB groups the other day and all he asked was should I put a gloss coat on before decals , the responses were shocking , needs called out all this crap
@ronaldbyrne3320
@ronaldbyrne3320 Жыл бұрын
@@kitbuster Agreed. 👍🏻
@IanAlexanderFyfe
@IanAlexanderFyfe Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Well said.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Wow George, that is very kind of you and very much appreciated.
@janvolek3040
@janvolek3040 Жыл бұрын
Another aspect that I see in this context is the possibility of bit rose-colored bias stemming from the sheer excitement of a new kit or a new subject. To me that would be a far more likely explanation than the quest for freebies. Thanks for taking the time to engage with this topic and also sharing your experience
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Disappointment boiling over I guess
@ThePlasticModeler
@ThePlasticModeler Жыл бұрын
"I don't know where these people are coming from".... I think it's called jealousy.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Probably mate!
@lesvenus3788
@lesvenus3788 Жыл бұрын
Thank gawd you didn’t mention the recessed rivets on the new Seaking!!! Some people just suck the life out of our hobby.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Another video coming!
@Mors_Inimicis
@Mors_Inimicis Жыл бұрын
A very restrained rant !. My experience with social media is as follows, on Facebook and Instagram you’d have to actively seek out trouble, on Twitter ,trouble finds you . Best thing I ever did was walking away from twitter. As for forums , I don’t participate but will have a browse for tips and tricks.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
You wait for the next one! 😆
@seanfoster3052
@seanfoster3052 Жыл бұрын
Good spot on rant! You brought up a good topic with magazine contributions. Maybe one day you could do a more in depth video on your tips on how to contribute to a magazine. It is something I would personally like to get into. Thanks for all the great content!
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Sure thing Sean
@ronaldbyrne3320
@ronaldbyrne3320 Жыл бұрын
You are spot on Jamie. As a former journalist I am no stranger to that kind of warped thinking - “ohh you gave it a good review because they’re an advertiser for the paper you work at.” But no point arguing with such ppl, they believe what they want to believe. Cest la vie to them, I say, I have better ways to spend my life than engage with them. 😊
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
I don't engage, that's a slippery slope!
@scottisles3688
@scottisles3688 Жыл бұрын
Was expecting far worse for a rant to be honest haha! I agree with what you say Jamie, and I imagine a lot of the criticism that people pipe up with either comes from a place of jealousy based on an erroneous illusion that print/video modellers get lots of money and free stuff (the vast majority don't); or, they have a pre-conceived notion towards a company or specific kit that then gets trotted out regardless if it is right or wrong. I think the vocal minority need to take a step back sometimes and just remind themselves what it is they get so worked up over. It is a hobby, where no-one forces you to do anything. If you don't like something, either try to give constructive criticism where it matters, or, if that isn't possible, then just don't buy it. It really is quite simple! There's far bigger issues in the world and this is most people's escape from it, drama just isn't necessary at all and a bit of perspective would go a long way!
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Some good points mate
@guypenrose5477
@guypenrose5477 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jamie. A very well cultured rant as rants go. Cheers.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
I tried to stay calm!
@StevePiggott-f6b
@StevePiggott-f6b Жыл бұрын
In the days of Newspapers and magazines, this sad collective would have been known as DISGUSTED OF REIGATE (or wherever) in the tail end of the letters page ! Due to the onward march of the internet and "social media" they now have a much louder voice, and We all know Who shouts loudest gets heard more.A sad but true reflection. Anyway enough of that, well observed points Jamie, and well spoken. Love Your F-4 build by the way,I'm on My fourth one now and they do get easier and nicer to build .Bye for now, take care, Steve
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
And usually the loudest are in the minority, thank goodness!
@davidcook380
@davidcook380 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree and what happens to the freebies they never give them away as a to their subs they keep them even if they don't need them one guy springs to mind .
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Who's that?
@worser
@worser Жыл бұрын
Love your style JH. That's what sets your chanel apart from the others that are just 'how to build step 1, 2,3 ..." Not so sure about Tool and Tim 😂
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, I really appreciate it
@kitbuster
@kitbuster Жыл бұрын
Nice rant, totally agree with you and as a consumer I want honesty warts and all if needed, I’ll make a decision based on the consensus of several trusted reviewers including yourself. Keep up the reality and fact checks, they need to be heard 👍PS I watched a new modeller getting destroyed on one of the FB groups the other day and all he asked was should I put a gloss coat on before decals , the responses were shocking , needs called out all this crap
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Oh blimey, not the gloss vs no gloss AGAIN! I feel another video coming.....!
@glencwilson
@glencwilson Жыл бұрын
It is like doing an appraisal of someone at work. You need to be honest and point out areas where performance can be improved but also where someone has done well. Reviews should be like that. Constructive criticism is fine. If there are issues with a kit it is better to know and be prepared than find out later.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Yeah, spot on mate
@ZinzanModelling
@ZinzanModelling Жыл бұрын
Dear Jamie, I have always tried to keep in mind that no reviewer will ever refund your money if you don’t like what you bought as a result of listening to a product review. I didn’t think that your thoughts amounted to a rant- thanks for putting this out. I tune in to hear well thought out points being made. Regards, Z
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks Z
@NJBamforth67
@NJBamforth67 Жыл бұрын
Well said 😊
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@andrewgilbert9108
@andrewgilbert9108 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done Jamie. The hardest thing for any reviewer must be to keep the language of the criticism constructive. Throwing your hands up in the air and screaming this is the worst thing ever molded never makes the design team strive to perform better in the future. Maybe people misunderstand or confuse constructive criticism for seeming to brush something under the carpet to keep those freebies coming. Anyway, keep up the great work with the channel. Really enjoying the format you chose, I liked the conclusion you added to the last build it complemented the part 1 video you released. Keep on rolling and ranting. Nice job
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@kkirkcaldy
@kkirkcaldy Жыл бұрын
Spot on, very well said mate.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@Lurchin
@Lurchin Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you Jamie, I don't understand instagram either! 😵‍💫
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
I find it baffling!
@billestew7535
@billestew7535 Жыл бұрын
I think the 1/32 Kotare Spitfire looks lovely, too bad it doesn't have an engine, I think for that price it should, Tamiyas 1/32 Spitfire has an engine, that is the one I would buy, good rant Jamie, and in this economy, if somebody offers up a freebie by golly you should take it, especially if it is a 1/32 R.R Merlin engine
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
I don't want an engine and given the quality I think the price is reasonable
@JamesA2
@JamesA2 Жыл бұрын
Well said mate
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks James
@LEESS1005
@LEESS1005 Жыл бұрын
I loved the Kotare SPITFIRE,hell of a lot more fun,therefore MORE enjoyable to build than the Tamiya Spitfire
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Looks more simple so I'm all for that!
@petemathers3481
@petemathers3481 Жыл бұрын
Yeh thats an odd one. it assumes reviewers are machines, they aren't they are normal people just like everyone else so a review will always be subjective and dependant on a point of view which will largely be based on the reviewers personal tastes which is a good thing. I always assume the reviews I see are fair and unbiased. The way I approach it is not to assume there is bias but to listen to what is said in context. What I mean by this is if someone loves rivet detail for example (mentioning no names eeek) and they suggest a kit lacks this feature I don't take it as a negative I listen to what else they have to say and use this to inform my decision, as at this moment in time with my skill set rivets are the least of my worries. I'm rambling now but if you look at the work a reviewer has done and you draw on the positives they say you should get a good overall opinion of the kit. We aren't really in an age where we can pop in to a shop and open up a box to have a peak so a channel or magazine with a review saves wasting time and money and as such is a valuable resource. just because two reviewers may come up with different conclusions it doesn't mean there is a bias, more that they are approaching it from there own personnel tastes and skill sets so lets not be critical of people who are devoting a considerable amount of there spare time to help us
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Some great points Pete
@ljscalemodels526
@ljscalemodels526 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jamie, liked your video. From a guy back to the hobby 1.5 year i would really like to see any review of a kit or produce for that matter up front and honest. Regards Liam
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Cheers Liam
@jfm148
@jfm148 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree on that troll minority. Is the very same small group in Facebook and that British Modeller's page in which they try to poison and hijack a healthy and friendly conversation with their "expertise" and "modelling experience"....
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
They are a nightmare!
@Duececoupe
@Duececoupe Жыл бұрын
Tool!? I read it as Fool first, ma bad! 😳😲😆😂 I'm very much stuck in the 50's, 60's, 70's and some later when it comes to music, plus Shadows, Ventures and the likes.... Now, are them there Foo....Tool, as good as ELO, T-Rex, Status Quo and Dire Straits? 🤨🤔😉 Excellent, well mannared, ranty rant....😉👍🏻
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@The12348567
@The12348567 Жыл бұрын
Good rant!
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@KABModels
@KABModels Жыл бұрын
People are mostly stupid. Treat people as they act. If they act stupid on my posts, i treat them as such. If they act decently, i treat them as such. The end really
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
They wouldn't say it in person!
@judithhamilton5393
@judithhamilton5393 Жыл бұрын
The Jam were the best band in the world ever,no argument 😊
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Good, but nothing gets close to Tool!
@adandap
@adandap Жыл бұрын
The least enjoyable aspect of this hobby is what I call "the red line brigade". It seems like ten seconds after a pretty desirable kit comes out, there's a post somewhere with a rivet counter's whine about some contour being wrong - and here's the red line on a photo to prove it. Mostly I don't care!
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
I hate red lines!
@grant6336
@grant6336 Жыл бұрын
Never understand the whingeing about kits. If you don't like it, don't buy it? If your not happy with it, start up your own company and do better. This is one of the reasons I got off of FB, my mental health is much better for it. The hobby is supposed to be fun. Reading a magazine review is just a guide in my opinion anyway, gives you some insight in to a kit.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Spot on Grant
@quantumplastic
@quantumplastic Жыл бұрын
😉😉😉
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
🫡
@tonydavey4171
@tonydavey4171 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jamie well said, not a rant just plain facts.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony
@Shamrock100
@Shamrock100 Жыл бұрын
Well said but I think the point was well made after about three minutes. I didn’t listen through the full 12 minutes plus.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
I tend to waffle sometimes!
@hidalgohouse3815
@hidalgohouse3815 Жыл бұрын
But it does happen. It happens in every walk of life. Doesn't mean you do it. But it happens. From model kits to video game reviews. Just part of life. It's easy to weed out the truth and move on. But it does occur.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Luckily I think most people just see these things and just move on!
@hidalgohouse3815
@hidalgohouse3815 Жыл бұрын
@@thescalemodellingcafe how dare you!!!
@johnbrewer6330
@johnbrewer6330 Жыл бұрын
And breathe!
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
😆
@blueline308
@blueline308 Жыл бұрын
Of course one can never speak for EVERYONE, but MOST youtube "reviewers" will say whatever it takes to keep the free stuff coming. Hell, that is what brings them to start youtubing. That and the money they make if successful. Smaller channels especially love the freebies. Say whatever you want, but it is simple human nature to be loyal to your supplier, even if subconsciously. The only way to gain my trust is to pay for the stuff yourself. I do enjoy watching all the videos, even the "reviews" of free stuff, but I see it as entertainment. Those youtubers should just admit it is just that, entertainment, and stop pretending to be doing some public service. It is just for fun. BTW, your audio is hollow sounding. You may need sound dampening.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that'll be the tiled floors and solid walls. Nothing I can do about it I'm afraid!
@haraldsydness4902
@haraldsydness4902 Жыл бұрын
It's jealous really isn't it? I mean, I want freebies, but I don't have the skill to do some of the things you guys do. (I still want a free Sea King kit though...)
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
We all want a free Seaking mate! 😂
@pheasantplucker8183
@pheasantplucker8183 Жыл бұрын
Viewer Added Context That They Thought People Would Like To Know: AC/DC is in fact the best band ever. FACT! Skinchies, no returns.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
I said Fact first! 😂
@hughmcnamee5593
@hughmcnamee5593 Жыл бұрын
Excellent opinion well made. But James are the best band, fact and any contrary opinion is just wrong.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
I said Fact, therefore it's a Fact! 😂
@hughmcnamee5593
@hughmcnamee5593 Жыл бұрын
I sincerely apologise for my impertinence.
@adampender2482
@adampender2482 Жыл бұрын
Iron Maiden is the best band in the world
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Good, but nothing gets close to Tool!
@adampender2482
@adampender2482 Жыл бұрын
@@thescalemodellingcafe except Tools politics and views on Christianity are abhorrent.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
@@adampender2482 I don't know their politics, and I can guess Maynard's views based on Wings for Marie and Perfect Circle's Judith.
@FinsburyPhil
@FinsburyPhil Жыл бұрын
You know what they say Jamie - opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one but nobody wants you to share it.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Fact Phil
@paulhargreaves1497
@paulhargreaves1497 Жыл бұрын
Yes are the best band in the world...........just sayin,
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Good, but nothing gets close to Tool!
@paulhargreaves1497
@paulhargreaves1497 Жыл бұрын
@@thescalemodellingcafe Hmmm...a Close to the Edge reference? aka Best album EVER!
@iannicholls7476
@iannicholls7476 Жыл бұрын
You are having a larf mate!
@jmcc2275
@jmcc2275 Жыл бұрын
No.
@raymondrosario9893
@raymondrosario9893 Жыл бұрын
Does not sound like a rant to me. I think this minority is always going to have something to complain about. If Takom releases a new tooled piece of armor, why didn’t they do this variant. The Borders Lancaster...too expensive, too big. The Kotare Spitfire...why no engine...not worth it without the engine. You're right, l think they are operating from a point of minimal knowledge. These companies, at the end of the day, have to turn profit. Research, tooling, design are not cheap. Add the recent supply chain issues, the war in Ukraine, and let's not forget our friend COVID 19. All factors that add to costs. I guarantee, if Kotare had done an engine for the Spitfire, that would have added at least $50.00 to the cost. That would cut into sales and profit. Reviewers like yourself, Nigel, etc may get things for "free" but l've yet to hear you kissing up or glossing over issues with the product. I think that prods the manufacturer to make improvements. Case in point...Borders ME-109 vs their Stuka. Are their kits l want to see done...absolutely but they have to be profitable to the manufacturer and a desire in the market. I will say this...the one thing that goes up me sideways is when a company re-boxes a kit that was crap when it was initially released. I am sorry but a new set of decals doesn't improve inaccuracies or poor fit. Keep up the good work
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@JXBModels
@JXBModels Жыл бұрын
It's a bit weird - this sphere of a hobby isn't like the automotive world, where the brown nosing is still very much a thing. Press trips used to be ceased for the influencers that didn't give glowing reviews of a car maker's latest products. Model companies by comparison, are probably just happy their products are getting publicity that they aren't needing to pay for. At the end of the day, model kits are still buildable even if they're not perfect.
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Good point mate
@marksherwood2947
@marksherwood2947 Жыл бұрын
Total cranks, coming from the remote corner of their playground. This was a well constructed opinion on your part. And I think you will find Thin Lizzy is the Best Band in the World. 👍🥸🤘🥸🤟
@thescalemodellingcafe
@thescalemodellingcafe Жыл бұрын
Good, but nothing gets close to Tool!
@guypenrose5477
@guypenrose5477 Жыл бұрын
I like what you do Jamie and I love the channel but I have to agree with Mark that Lizzy are, and always will be, the best band in the world ( for that last bit try to imagine Jeremy Clarkson’s voice).
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