TIME: Sorry Vegans, Meat Made Us Human Response

Time Magazine is pushing meat again and now hypocritically calling Veganism a counterfactual crusade. So the battle of starch vs. meat in brain evolution ensues.
Links and Sources:
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Original TIME Article:
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395 metabolic ward studies on saturated fat raising cholesterol:
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Up to 53% of energy is lost converting fatty acids to glucose:
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Protein is a horrible energy source study:
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Starch is 20x more digestible cooked and other facts in NY Times Article:
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The following URL:
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Fossilized Feces Study:
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Fossilized plaque 400,000 years ago study:
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Adventist Longevity Study:
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Article about fire 1.8 million years ago:
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Study cited by TIME:
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[@vegetablepolice]

Eating crickets helped us get a better sleep cause it made the area quieter, thus allowing our brains to rest and double in size every day until the great cricket apocalypse in the year 17.

[@sonja4164]

LMFAO!

[@sonja4164]

+Racey Baby lol

[@FamilyFreedom]

+Vegetable Police You legend!

[@lisanloves]

Best comment.

[@dirtynipples26]

+Supremeleaderoffood Vegan an*

[@glimeertwin2]

Who gives a fuck what foods we ate to develop are big brains we should eat what's good for us now and since we can eat a vegan diet and be healthy that's what we should do because it doesn't cause suffering to animals

[@AGWeblinks]

IKR. But I guess meat eaters just keep trying to make the stupidest arguments.

[@AGWeblinks]

Buds420King What are you even talking about? It's always the same thing. B12, protein, and human evolution. I really haven't seen much else, have you? There is also usually no scientific research to back them up, just the industries propaganda.

[@AGWeblinks]

Buds420King Average doesn't mean good or healthy. I mean look at the U.S. now, they are on a standard American diet and 2 in 3 adults are overweight or obese. And as for restricting meat is the best thing to do, I don't know if you realize everyone is trying that, but the population is fatter then it ever has been. When your vegan you don't have to restrict food, or at least carbs, so you don't have to deprive yourself and think about food 24/7.

[@kelseybordeaux9206]

there are plenty of overweight Vegans...

[@goku445]

doubt it. unless you drink a bottle of oil every morning.

[@flipstonez]

This is sad. Someone on KZbin does better research than writers at places like TIME

[@rachelAO]

It's typical of journalists. My partner is an ex-journo and he always tells me that the people writing these articles are know nothing idiots. They do little or no research and are looking to catch attention and appeal to societal norms. Take everything you read with a pinch of salt! :)

[@sonja4164]

+Racey Baby wow...

[@backspace7124]

+Racey Baby Much of the time they're not even writing the articles themselves at all, but just putting their name beside it. Many articles are nothing but press releases from corporations. Companies send pre-written articles to newspapers, magazines, etc.

[@flipstonez]

Back Space That is interesting. Can you cite examples?

[@rachelAO]

Yep, you're right there. The popular press is not impartial and they also work to crazy deadlines which don't support investigation of claims put forward in poor research studies or corporate press releases.

[@kaitlynbrady3017]

Between this article and the Cosmo article about how being a vegetarian is so bad for you, pretty easy to see how scared the meat industry is getting, isn't it? Got an all out offensive in the media because they know probably more people than ever on the fence.

[@iferlyf8172]

really? That's awesome! Though emerging countries eat more and more meat.... Oh well, anyway thanks, reductarians! (I assume it's thanks to them since the number of veg*ns didn't grow...)

[@TheWorldTeacher]

In my country (Philippines) the people cannot eat anything which doesn't have animal product in it. It's truly sickening.

[@BettyAlexandriaPride]

Reverend Eslam Wow, really? That's interesting.

[@grimgramz]

Kaitlyn Brady hahaha nope meat prices has actually gone up more since demand has gone up

[@Kracken11111]

ifer lyf best form of defence is attack....

[@elevenpoisons2484]

I can't get enough of your channel :D

[@MictheVegan]

+Libbi Charmaine - SonyaEnzo Thankya :)

[@ManOfJupiterMusic]

same ahah

[@ZEELION]

check me out then ;D

[@sparkle0859]

Ikr I just discovered his channel today and it's 3:30 AM and I'm hooked

[@nemoschmitz2374]

!! When i happened to See one of his videos，i thought 'no I am already following too many other vegan channels that are awesome' But this channel is too good to not keep watching and watching Love the lifestyle change I'm going through

[@kawaiipinkbearcharms]

Ya'll bashing us from removing meat if you think meat is the most important thing then try removing everything else aside from meat and dairy let's see who reaches purgatory first

[@adrianbutler2623]

How much did the big yam industry pay you for making this ? Just kidding great video great channel love your work mate.

[@MictheVegan]

I actually LOLed

[@sonja4164]

big yam had nothing to do with it... conspiracy theorist... it was actually big asparagus.

[@adrianbutler2623]

Well I figured big broccoli sponsors nutritionfacts.org dr greger said it himself so I knew big something had to be behind this.

[@sonja4164]

Adrian Butler lol!

[@hoonbirdpersonpilot5356]

+Adrian Butler yeah some guy recently tried to discredit dr gregor on the grounds that he recieved money from vegans. hes totaly biased toward your health being optimal and eco systems being given the chance to recover... tell me its bad to have a bias..

[@GeoffreyMhd]

If every Vegan on the internet were like you, I think veganism would grow a lot faster.

[@princefancybum4605]

We need the graphic street activism, and the plant based athletes as well as this to really convey the message of veganism

[@Food5Thought]

We're on it! ;)

[@WWII25]

Oh you mean where right at the beginning he got the eating meat and fire wrong.

[@blanckieification]

It would certainly have an effect but don't overestimate it, there are those who will never believe any logic proof. It is called scientifically "cognetive dissonance". Best words I ever learned. Simply stated: there are too much idiots.

[@aaronwhitby3712]

No the opposite. He makes great points but his contempt for people who don’t they no like him is distasteful and he loses anyone who isn’t as judgements as he is when he arrogant rly claims that eating meat makes you a bad person and being a vegan a good one. I’m afraid that’s not how you spread your message. It’s how you play to your ‘tribe’ in an echo chamber.

[@user-yn5sk5ru5g]

You didn't even mention that for a long time our brains are shrinking. Sorry Time, meat made us dumber?

[@ReluctantWarrior]

+Thanas Stefanis - Vegan I would not doubt that.

[@jwilsss]

Since we started full scale hunting around 20,000 years ago we have lost I think a tennis ball size of our brain.

[@ReluctantWarrior]

Jessica Lauren If not more. We've lost a ton of self control too.

[@slydexia109]

+Thanas Stefanis - Vegan Correlation =\= Causation Try again.

[@balderdashery1]

+Reluctant Warrior Ⓥ and empathy

[@MrJoshDada]

This guy uses truth bombs, tons of evidence, very intelligent approaches, and he has a calm cooled personality. If you want to make anyone go vegan or change their minds about it, this is the guy to show them. your channel really should have 10x more views, keep it up man ! I love what you're doing

[@S3TO1234]

+Josh Dada A mass majority of the world is too stupid, scared and ear deep in denial to watch these videos. If the whole world could actually critically think, his videos would have 100 million views.

[@palepurplesky]

His "evidence" is actually quite flawed.

[@marre181]

He actually doesn't know what he is talking about. He takes parts of the "evidence" and puts it together so it looks like it is truth. But he doesn't look at the whole picture. Anyone who research human evolution knows that he is full of bullshit.

[@mdouble100]

As a committed vegan, I find your arguments are compelling and well supported by a massive amount of research. I think the Time article is based on the conjecture and assumptions and research designed to support theories as opposed to being derived from direct evidence. There is yet another point, not often made in the debate about meat and brain development. This simple point goes directly against the idea that eating meat makes for a big brain theory. If the protein and fat from meat stimulated brain growth, then true carnivores would have massive brains and the data processing speed of a supercomputer. However it seems to be we starch eating homosapians have the biggest brains and highest IQ's - although IQ alone doesn't seem to matter considering the often flawed logic we seem to follow.

[@tyson1123]

Well said

[@communitas2024]

I agree

[@stefdiazdiaz7067]

Their brains are big enough to hunt down herbivores or even Vegans in the wild...

[@ashleyjohnston9282]

Lol one of the funniest responses I got from a carnist when I was asking why tigers and sharks aren’t getting smart from their “meat heavy diets” and aren’t out-evolving us, and he tried to say that “it’s becuz carnivores dont eat the brains of the animulz” “eatin the brainz, makes us more smarter,” 😂 😂 😂

[@DANGJOS]

I'm not vegan, but this made a lot of sense. Thanks

[@stewartbright1928]

DANG JOS go vegan

[@DANGJOS]

Stewart Bright Doesn't really work for me at the moment. I eat mostly like a pescatarian

[@stewartbright1928]

DANG JOS Why doesn't it work..?

[@DANGJOS]

Stewart Bright I do non-competitive powerlifting sometimes which requires a lot of protein. I also have a bad digestive system, so while I don't mind getting plenty of that protein from beans and seeds, their digestive difficulties make it difficult to get protein from them alone. Whey protein powder, eggs, and fish are much easier to assimilate

[@stewartbright1928]

Obviously you know you can get all the protein you need to be a non-competitive powerlifter so that isn't really an issue.. I'm unsure of your digestive issues you have.. Could you please elaborate? I am aware that going vegan can change digestion due to a lot higher fibre intake but I'm also aware that after a while your body becomes used to the high fibre and digestive issues no longer prevail

[@Sunflowerdivinity]

And sure enough who owns Time Magazine... Hearst Foundation of famous hearst beef ranch... coincidence?

[@S3TO1234]

+The DK Vegan Family Wow! Did not know that. All apologists for their terrible addiction will say "yeah it's a coincidence so what". Time magazine is a joke. A dangerous one that influences millions of people.

[@ryanrussell9548]

+The DK Vegan Family Where did you hear/read that Hearst owns Time Magazine??

[@Sunflowerdivinity]

Okay may have been wrong in my research, showed how often Time Magazine featured Mr. Hearst and often went together to file lawsuits, but it terms of owning, Time looks to be its own entity, Hearst owns many of the magazines that often bashes vegans, and Hearst even owns several of the times newspapers probably how the research got mixed up saying he owned time, but a newspaper not the magazine. Still something that wouldn't surprise me as many corporations buy things secretly all the time.

[@sonja4164]

I fkn figured...SMH.

[@backspace7124]

+The DK Vegan Family Didn't know TIME was its own entity, but I think Banana TV made a video recently about Cosmopolitan magazine being owned by them. They recently put out an anti-vegan article. Seriously, why does anyone buy/trust mainstream magazines, newspapers, etc. anymore?

[@user-yu9rt3tv2m]

Intelligence comes from tool use, tool use in humans comes from hands, hands come from climbing trees to eat fruits. Fruits made us human, not meat.

[@AlexOjideagu2]

Humans didn't need tools to get fruit dumbass

[@GeorgeStar]

That is 100% wrong. donmatesz.blogspot.in/2017/03/human-ancestors-vegetarians-or-obligate.html

[@xtratic]

Hahaha, you're referring to a BLOG! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human#Diet

[@stefdiazdiaz7067]

😂😂😂

[@stefdiazdiaz7067]

Intelligence is used to manipulate fools into the wrong diet...

[@Patralgan]

"made us human" as if that was something to be proud of...

[@stephaniestiller30]

Stop thinking of humans as a mass of people, but instead as the people you love and care for. The people you admire. When you through mankind through your family and friends then I'm sure there's something to be proud of there. Generally, people are naturally good. We can't help the endless feed of lies we've been taught that dictate our decisions. We all begin innocent and loving, society just slowly ruins it...

[@Patralgan]

+Stephanie Stiller I agree with you. Individually a person is good, I always believe that, but we don't always act upon our values and meat eating is one example of that. And since most people eat meat, it makes human kind, as a whole, evil in the planet's and its creatures point of view. We are also destroying our own species' future by polluting earth. I'm also contributing to that with my own selfishness but I try to minimise that and being a vegan is a key part of that.

[@kb3196]

+Patralgan Amen!

[@communitas2024]

More like what "made us inhuman"

[@saltypsychosis4093]

king comment

[@acmulhern]

Cooking and agriculture resulted in the biggest jumps in our elocution when it comes to diet. Cooked food was easier to digest, needed less energy for better nutrient absorption while agriculture meant a more reliable food source. Most common people didn't eat that much meat until after the 2nd world war. It used to be a luxury, reserved for special occasions (hence the idea of a Sunday roast) and the aristocracy. That's why the pales diet is wrong if you look at it historically, as is the raw vegan diet.

[@negatum7]

good answer!

[@vikistk]

dude, thanks so much for the info!!!!!!! i had NO idea that it could ever be so easy to debunk this standard argument of carnists! i appreciate it so much that you took the time to do the research and share it (:

[@thealitabrizipodcast]

Great video Mic!

[@righteousbehaviour860]

Ali Tabrizi thos guy is a vegan brainfart, all his vids are full of such bullshit

[@rajiratala7580]

@@righteousbehaviour860 you are right. you must hate facts and research.

[@1234kingconan]

People don't like facts, what can I say?

[@corsicanlulu]

most humans hate the truth, prefer fairy-tales

[@goku445]

cf. walt disney

[@mattroberg7728]

People love facts, just not when those facts challenge their core beliefs ;) But tell them a fact about literally _anything_ else and they're all ears!

[@zain4019]

goku I eat a plant based diet and I love disney. I’m sure I’m not alone in that.

[@blanckieification]

👍The truth is like a pil, every single one wants it. Very,very few can swallow it.

[@nicolasdelgado3684]

I think you should've answered this question (Did meat play an important role on our evolution?) with an explanation about why it isn't even important or relevant to veganism. If we consumed meat in the past to survive or not isn't important, since we don't need to do it anymore and animal agriculture is an activity that is destroying our forests, poluting our air and oceans and causing needless suffering. Discussing wether our brains grew thanks to meat or potatoes is a waste of time. We should be concerned about our future, not our past.

[@jconnor1337]

Mistruths: Proudly brought to you by modern media, in order to maintain your blissful ignorance.

[@etidancal]

Seriously Mike, you are my favourite vegan youtuber! Excellent video!

[@xfrenno2]

+Etienne Calderon He is the best vegan youtuber when it comes to "knowledge". The 2nd place should go to Kerry.

[@nofurtherwest3474]

Are you still vegan?

[@amandavsevilla]

I honestly don't know why you don't have more followers. Your stuff is amazing and i can't believe i haven't subscribed earlier!! :)

[@Markus_Kennedy]

+applesandamandas Agreed Mic's channel rocks!

[@siegethompson3194]

Because it's all cockamamie bullshit.

[@hypercarnivore6978]

CJ THOMPSON damn right it’s shit

[@nofurtherwest3474]

Are you still vegan?

[@vilhelmkron7455]

Dont eat 10% fat like many vegans recommend, eating under 20% of your calories from fat lowers your hormone levels. Im alot happier now when i eat about 25% of my calories from fat because my hormone levels are higher. just a tip folks

[@MeIsBlake]

some people definitley go too extreme with the low fat thing. i personally feel best eating about 15 fat, 15 protein and 70 carb. i think there is some variation on whats best for different people though

[@NishaBalsara]

😂👌🏾FIBER FOREVER

[@goku445]

poop

[@timjacobs4417]

Eat raw meat if you want to regain health and vitality

[@tarantinopipp7455]

Do you have the digest system of a cow? Gratz

[@peso1080]

Well I thought you had well made video until the end when you went overly high handed with wicked people eat meat but you failed to address the fact that must vegans suffer from a mild form of kwashiorkor from a lack of basic proteins and you neglected to mention that cured meats are almost always found on any mummified early human you sir are only putting forth the information that best fits your theory I will give you the fact that we don't have to eat animal flesh to get proteins but is nothing wrong with eating it

[@amybethhurst]

They got schooled, thanks for this. You debunked the Time article, and it is widely believed that the Time article was sponsored by the meat industry.

[@chopsueykungfu]

I recognized the Time article as from coming from 2011. The editor should have mentioned it was merely a reprint from years back. The starch theory came in summer of 2015, and it makes sense; Glucose comes from starch, and glucose is pure energy for the brain.

[@arturoflores1075]

Mic and Cory McCarthy are the best shit talkers without ever having to talk shit. Great job once again.

[@joeschmoe6802]

Great job ! This video knocks down the tired carnivore arguments like bowling pins.

[@StraussBR]

Keep it calm Mic, i honsttly believe 2016 will be a historic year for us It is in the news everywhere the meat industry is loosing a lot of money and the milk industry too they will bring all in and we should patiently explain the propaganda i dont think it is disputed humans never eat the amounts of meat we are eating now except in icy areas

[@backspace7124]

+JAyThaRevo Ⓥ It's happening, but agreed, it's going to take time, and it's possible there will be setbacks. We can't get discouraged.

[@zain4019]

Darwin Ranzone Large social changes take time. It will be decades or even closer to a century until we have a world who is largely composed of vegetarians and vegans. But it’ll be worth it:)

[@arjunkrishnadas]

Highly appreciate all the work you are doing for the Vegan world. Thanks a ton! 🙏 All power to you.

[@Jtikombc80]

Mike, you've touched on the subject of mammalian estrogens in (at least?) one of your videos. Can you maybe do a video on the differences between soy phytoestrogens, and mammalian estrogens? Thanks!

[@MictheVegan]

+Julie Tiko Crow No problem! I'll get going on that.

[@Jtikombc80]

Thanks! I know several people who have hormonal issues, and avoid soy like the plague, but continue to consume dairy (even raw dairy), and meat, and can't figure out why they aren't getting better... I have presented a few things, but can't find a video, and people seem to really relate to those ;)

[@iLoveTrannysx]

+Julie Tiko Crow Don't forget those people who tell vegans that soy has a lot of estrogen so it's bad, yet they eat dairy, which has more estrogen.

[@Jtikombc80]

Exactly! :)

[@DrummerDucky]

+Julie Tiko Crow A problem regarding soy is the protein content, which is more similar to meat protein than most other plants. On the plus side, its phytochemicals increase IGFBP which cancel some of the IGF-1 upregulation, but it is still better to avoid eating too much of such rich sources of dietary leucine and methionine.

[@Cellphonesssful]

Just got into a discussion on Twitter with two people trying to convince me of this! And I gave them your video. I always give people your videos because your include research as well.

[@mama456100]

I'm glad you made this video, it was really puzzling in my bio anthropology class.

[@CARBDOPING]

Hey Mic! Can you do a video on the difference between a meat and dairy farm compared to a vegetable farm. Or how cotton is collected? My roommate says that even though we're eating veggies we are still killing insects under the plants. Or same when collecting the cotton. I think it's bogus! But I knew you could come up with a reasonable answer. Thanks Mic! Hands Down my favorite channel!! I know I can always use your resources to share! -Remy

[@natalietannerblogger-theed9419]

We might be killing insects accidentally or on purpose for crops like cotton. That is no reason to kill yourself by eating animals and 'killing insects under plants' is really not a reason to breed and farm animals to kill them for food.

[@Miles9595]

Keep blowing the lid off every supposedly controversial dietary topic. People are going to have to start researching and, god forbid, LEARNING stuff now. I miss the days when we truly believed we could leave science to the scientists and laws to the lawmakers.. Turns out people have to not be "full-blown normal" and tiptoe in the crazy whirlpool of the universe's facts every so often

[@edgyguy5553]

My God, a vegan who actually acknowledges cooking. There are so many vegans, especially raw foodists and frugivores that swear absolutely that cooked food is dead food, etc. While you're clearing up paleo/meat myths, you may want to work on a few vegan ones too.

[@Cuasimodo2372]

It gets old how he dismisses every study he doesn’t like as “funded by the dairy and meat industry”

[@BagoGarde]

That's the upmost vegan arguement.

[@Kracken11111]

My 11yr old son was told off at school today because he has chosen a vegan diet for ethical & health reasons, the office staff declared that ‘you can’t just go vegan, you don’t have an allergy’... I had to ring the school & tell them that he has my full support & as I provide all his food, they cannot interfere. So ridiculous though... archaic even... maybe if they became vegan, they would be smarter... it’s just a thought!

[@nofurtherwest3474]

You need Vit b12 and b6, so just make sure he's getting that. Only found in animal product.

[@natalietannerblogger-theed9419]

Good for you, momma!

[@natalietannerblogger-theed9419]

@@nofurtherwest3474 vitamin b12 is a bacteria

[@Fa1c0]

sex made us human. females with wider hips were able to give birth to young with bigger brains. the wider hips also made it easier to walk upright. walking upright freed their hands to gather food and make tools.

[@jonathandiego8084]

Mhmm wide hips

[@alicethemadrabbit1842]

That argument never flies with me. We did rely on the proteins from meat to help us evolve and hunting helped us expand across the world. However, we are now cognizant of other animal's emotions AND have other options for protein and can be even healthier without meat. Human ancestors didn't wear shoes, but so what? We adapt as we learn, THIS is what kept us thriving as a species.

[@sonja4164]

I read the "article" a cpl days ago, and laughed my ass off... thanks for the awesome critique.

[@sonja4164]

Buds420King​ -lol! I see what you did there-

[@ReluctantWarrior]

+Buds420King I think you mean 'mentally inept'. I prefer not to call humans that eat animal derived "foods" as 'omnivores' as its kind of an insult to genuine omnivores such as bears and foxes. I tend to call them 'pseudovores' or 'carnists' myself.

[@sonja4164]

Buds420King​ I'm not sure why you would consider humans who eat meat to be "more mentally equpt". That's ridiculous...

[@sonja4164]

Buds420King you must know thats a typo...lol. come on now.

[@ReluctantWarrior]

Buds420King You aren't very bright, are you?

[@graciemcintyre2617]

My brother and I have been strict vegans for about 6 months now. We went on vacation with our parents and at a fancy dinner we decided to cheat and order some meat. We were shaking in a cold sweat later with our stomachs doing flips. The rest of the week, my mom started eating mostly vegetarian. She saw first hand what meat does to you if you aren't use to eating it. As miserable as it was, I think it was worth it for her to finally second guess her diet.

[@devalous9448]

It was cooked wrong dumbass

[@natalietannerblogger-theed9419]

I'm sorry you had that experience. It's common when you can't control everything you eat...and it's not a 'treat' that people think it is. It's pretty miserable to deviate from the course when you are whole food plant based! SOOOO worth it! I'm glad your mom is a convert now at least!

[@DrRizzMD]

My honest opinion is that after excluding a food group for a long time, your gut microbiome adjusts to your new diet, which makes it difficult to readjust to your diet. This can apply to meat and plants.

[@MadeleineOlivia]

ANAZING video! So satisfying to have you debunk all the nonsense out there!

[@sergiogarciac.6640]

did he?, cannibalism is what gave ancient homínids a huge boost with regards of brain growth , in fact eating your enemys brains is practiced to this very day by some occult sects

[@grimgramz]

Amazing

[@grimgramz]

Not anazing

[@TheDJIVB]

Except he is full of beans, not facts.

[@pedroflores-hu9xx]

JUST BEACUSE YOU LIKE THE SAME SHEET OF THIS STUPID THATS WYHY YOU LIKE BEACAUSE YOU LIKE TOO

[@611gay5]

Keep eating sugars and telling yourselves when your body is sick, you're detoxing

[@barbaraibiel]

This video is so useful. Meat eaters throw this article at me all the time. All I have to do in response is give them a link to this video. Great job, Mike!

[@sethtenrec]

He misquotes the article, this entire video is unfair debate tactics 101. Sorry, vegans, you are definitely brain dead and therefore meat must be better for the brain.

[@leojanuszewski1019]

I like to watch videos like this while devouring a big medium-rare beef ribeye covered in butter and washed down with a half-gallon of whole milk. 😋

[@mila.inthewoods]

anyone here from Bonny's tumblr? :)

[@MrSuperbluesky]

One of your best ! Keep em coming !,

[@overlogg]

excellent video mate!

[@Taylor-nk5ez]

Yay! I saw this article and I was hoping you would do a response video! You ROCK :)

[@dylansveganexperiment6248]

Hey man love the bit about the young blood. I went Vegan for health reasons at the age of 40 and felt that my body just reversed everything, I could run and recover better then I could ever remember. It is easy to see that even though there is little change in my activity levels I am lighter happier and can play for hours with my son, far longer then other Dad's I see that are at least 10 years younger. Before going Vegan I was not looking forward to the rest of my life as it was all hard work, now I say bring it on baby!!! its all cool man! :) Your videos are great man, I tend to lead by example as I find this is the best way for most people to come around to the Vegan way but if I get any sci-ency types I will send them in the direction of your videos man. Dyl :)

[@majorleagueunlimited]

Vegan 5 years and my Brain approves this message 🙏🏽💪🏽💯

[@communitas2024]

Meat didn't make us human, it made us INHUMAN.

[@goku445]

@@palepurplesky are brains? Did you watch the video and read the scientific studies cited ? The links you posted are not studies by any means.

[@palepurplesky]

goku Our* 🤦🏻‍♀️. Can’t believe I missed that

[@palepurplesky]

goku Yes, I did watch the video and I looked at the links provided. None of them were very supportive of his argument. Also, the second link I provided cites multiple scientific studies.

[@goku445]

@@palepurplesky Let's imagine that is true (which it's obviously not imo). Is it still ok to kill billions of animals each year when we don't need it anymore?

[@palepurplesky]

goku Of course not, but I wasn’t talking about the ethics of it, I was talking about the science of it. Also, some people do still need to eat meat, or at least animal products. So it is necessary for some people.

[@arunaravi296]

Excellent video, Mic! Chew on that, TIME magazine!

[@CheapLazyVegan]

Another awesome video! 3:57 - this was great lol

[@MictheVegan]

+Cheap Lazy Vegan Thanks! That part turned out a little ridiculous so I almost didn't add it, but I'm glad you appreciated it.

[@miksi8364]

That name describes you perfectly.Cheap ass pain in the ass vegan twat.

[@paulwarwick6146]

Interesting, but if we were eating cooked plants/starches first, and for so long, why did our brains just suddenly increase in size?

[@Emma-wl8bv]

awesome video! it's amazing how people will just assume articles like that are right without even checking the sources. you don't even need any understanding of science to know that article is a load of rubbish, just basic logic.

[@DellardNelson]

Amazing videos Mic! When I stumbled upon that Time article earlier this week I was like - Oh not this again. Major publication trying to put down Vegans again. You did an excellent job rebutting their "facts".

[@natalietannerblogger-theed9419]

That is my exact thought when I see a magazine cover like that! It fuels the whole, "I don't know what to think/'they' change their minds eveery day about what is healthy' argument that I hear which leads to 'so I guess I'll just keep eating meat'.

[@rileyspenceryoutube]

Love your videos Mike ! Super educational and fun to watch

[@kishorekumarj8855]

I like how you have references for all your points! Makes the videos a million times more interesting and keeps the idiots away! Kudos. You're the best!

[@nofurtherwest3474]

I think his points are good but not quite nuanced enough. There is energy, which needed to "power" the brain. But that does not drive intelligence per se. You need Vit B12 for example for neurotransmission. So it's probably the vitamins in meat that made us smarter, not necessarily what powered the brain terms of fuel. Think of it this way - starches were like the power that a computer needs to run, but the cooked meat help enhance the coding / algorithms, ie it made us smarter.

[@fiveSolas879]

they also declared hitler as man of the year so......try debunking that time magazines hahahahaha

[@thanato3798]

To be fair, that was 1938.

[@bagiee1]

...that means the corruption goes waaaaaayy back.

[@gremice31]

So I had my first vegan christmas day in 2016 and I followed the long tradition of stuffing my face with all the food I could get my hands on. Except something was missing from this annual event. The food hang over or feeling of heavy fullness. I felt great! My roast parsnips are legendary and I had all the vegan burgers, potatoes ect I could fit in my fat face! :P (I am travelling Australia so it was a bbq style as apposed to a British roast but it still would have been the same) :).

[@TheDrakon]

I don't get why people take jabs at vegans. That sounds like they feel threatened by vegans. I don't care if vegans took a jab at meat eaters first, it doesn't justify doing the same thing back. That's just lowering yourself to their level and making you look immature, ultimately letting them win.

[@elveganocordobes6708]

I made an analysis in my channel about that study but yours is just so much better dude! hands down

[@chrissalinas420]

Keep up the good work mic! Im so glad to be plant based everyday

[@SNAFUPheonix]

no one imagines the caveman eating raw meat, the cartoons are always a ham-hock and a fire--but the possibility a caveman cooked a tuber is ridiculous hmm?

[@LeoGuitarraPiano]

Can you, MIc.The Vegan, bring me the transcript of this video so I can translate it into spanish, please? #vegan #govegan #activists

[@MictheVegan]

+Leo Guitarra Piano No problem, just give me a place to send it! Thanks!

[@LeoGuitarraPiano]

Please, send it to [e-mail] #govegan

[@gavinparks5386]

My mother was born on a farm on the shores of the Firth of Forth , in Scotland. Near the water was what was called the Shelly Bank. It was a massive stretch of cockle and other sea shells - not a natural phenomenon , but an accumulation from many hundreds of years if not a thousand years of marine animal consumption , with the shells being discarded in a gigantic midden that existed for thousands of years thereafter.

[@Xultrain]

"Dairy industry funded pseudo-science." You sir, hit the nail squarely on the head.

[@davem6492]

We need more vegans, so i get the best roast beef in the grocery store. I need to do 3 more batches of smoked jerky.

[@celinepope]

DAYUM! This was the one argument against veganism that I didn't know how to respond to. Have to show this to my brother. GO STARCHES

[@summerbeaches4106]

WOW! Great video. I watched it twice.

[@Tetyana07]

Wow, great lesson! In school we were taught the typical propaganda of humans evolving from eating red meat, so thanks for teaching me otherwise. :)

[@caitrionaconnolly4159]

Our body creates its own glucose though in the absence of us eating carbs through gluconeogenisis, so technically our body can run on ketones and the brain can use up to 30% ketones then through gluconeogenisis our brain is fully fuelled.

[@chelle4612]

Love it!!!

[@karlscheel3500]

I would like to know which tubers Mike was referring to in this video, because potatoes (the most popular tubers) actually originated in what is now Peru. Although, the natives who lived there have been cultivating potatoes for thousands of years before the first arrival of the Europeans, it was this arrival that actually led to its introduction to the Europeans.

[@0dious]

I'm gonna share it like crazy, at last, some comprehensive, condensed, spot on ball breaking to this notion of meat fueled progress. awesome work.

[@Melissa.Garrett]

They’re assuming that evolution is a fact. 🙄 But even if you do use that as the springboard for the argument, Mic just blew TIME out of the park. 👍🏼

[@bmatthews15]

Thank you sir, now I'm bulletproof in defense of a plant based diet.

[@solrey7]

to be honest to last comment eat animals for taste we don't really like the taste of meat because we season it and cook it in butter or oil; (and water); which gave it more flavor at least that is what I've seen no one cooks it bland. I personally always drenched them in sauce because I could not stand the taste and was so over joyed when I FINALLY learned we don't need to eat meat like we were taught......

[@MrFrezeeTr]

Well then I guess you never tried meat on barbecue it smells and taste verywell even without any oil or seasons cuz at first meat have its own fat and second yes I cant deny the fact meat taste better when eaten with seasons or vegetables cooked with it, well but the question is; is it meat makes vegs more delicious or is it vegs make meat more delicious ;D

[@lauran2488]

People do the same with vegetables, too. They drench their salads in fat because they find the taste of stems and leaves to be too bland.

[@digitaleasyaadacube2149]

If evolution is true, why did we start cooking in the first place? Why are we the only "animals" that cook or started to cook? Please answer if you can

[@CudKidi]

I believe the consumption of meat in itself didn't directly kick start the brain size by nutrition. I think that meat was more nutrient dense bang for buck than plants, there for the digestive tract shrank (saving energy) and then gave us a surplus energy in order to facilitate bigger brain size.

[@user-wp5no6cn2b]

Yes, the same with cooking food.

[@historian-x]

@CudKidi Your post means meat actually kickstarted brain size. Meat was the only food that can provide enough calories in small package before the advent of agriculture and cooking. It means humans have time for other mental activities unlike our ape cousins who need the whole day grazing.

[@madison6401]

Love your channel! ❤️🐮 showed this video to my meat lover mom and she had no response 😂

[@itskaybe6348]

Thank you for coming at this topic this way. I have never heard the evidence of this side. I have only ever heard the "humans didn't evolve to eat meat" but we were clearly eating meat as we evolved- something many vegan activists try to just deny this absolutely fact. This makes so much more sense to the reasons we show the kind of dentition and digestive tracts we have, that allow for processing meat, if necessary for survival, but definitely lend toward a plant based diet. And I fully believe with the last fact which was a huge factor in my veganism. Even if we did need meat to survive and evolve. There is literally no reason for the vast majority of the world to be consuming animals.

[@ranyork7626]

im not vegan, my cultural traditions and lifestyle makes it very hard to do so, as much as id love too. It amazes me how much the world would change positevly being a vegan race, yet so many ppl still defend the killing and consumption of animals as if its necessary for humans to survive, and its not. even though the proof is right in front of their faces they are still ignorant.

[@AsRealAsItGetsBoxing]

i like the fact they put this wrong info popular places because then it gives us a chance to know how to debunk what people say to us about being vegan on a daily basis

[@earthpet]

We leveraged our ability to defend our tribe with weapons. Tribe protectors needed to be well practiced, coordinated, and brave (all through hunting). There is no argument because virtually all examples of human culture came from predecessors who hunted. I personally believe a vegan diet can be healthiest, but that is no excuse to rewrite our past.

[@youtoober2013]

+Mic. the Vegan I love that last line... you know before the outro. 7:40

[@entrehierroeideas]

Imagine taking a shit as a proto-human ape, and then some bunch of scientists from far into the future study it as a sample of "fossilized feces" and make that their area of expertise

[@jishman101]

Bit of a straw man argument really. Whether or not meat played a role in the evolution of humans cannot be used as justification for or against veganism in modern society.

[@neveensourour1942]

Hi Mic. You are awesome! Question: I was talking to someone today he said that his blood type would not support a vegan diet. Is that a real thing? Do you have a video about that? You have become my encyclopedia on living vegan. Thank you! These video's are incredibly helpful.

[@natalietannerblogger-theed9419]

Blood type? Is he part hyena? That sounds silly. All humans are supposed to eat plants.

[@bloosprinklez]

this is amazinggg!! my dad thought the same thing as Time until I showed him this video!

[@t.a.g.4516]

If meat has helped to develop our brain, then maybe because we need much more tactics, tools and processing methods to hunt animals than to collect and eat raw plants... If the nutritional content would be the reason, every carnivore would have larger brains and intelligence levels than human beings...

[@gfy2979]

Ah yes, TIME magazine, the favorite magazine of JEFF EPSTEIN!

[@camtheunicorpse2217]

if meat makes you smarter, why do we call people who are stupid meat heads?

[@dartfather]

Eat The Unicorpse. So why do you call comatose person vegetable?

[@CharGC123]

I've been saying cooking and starches was the driver of our evolution forever! What makes us so different from other primates are the extra copies of amylase we possess to digest starch, and our ability to utilize fire! If meat was so beneficial to our "big brains", why aren't true carnivores the smartest of all? Or considering that we know plenty of apes including chimps eat a varied amount of meat, why is it us studying them and not the other way around? As you said, plants don't fossilize like bones do, but new DNA testing tells the tale! Shame on Time for pandering to the animal industry profits, I have totally lost respect for their BS agenda! Another very obvious issue is we share almost 99% of our DNA with chimps and bonobos, besides the loss of hair, the most obvious difference is our lower face...our lips, jaws and teeth don't have to work nearly as hard as chimps do to chew our cooked food, so they have reduced dramatically in structure. The meatheads that can't acknowledge these obvious facts maybe need to evolve?

[@Gromst3rr]

Thank you very much for the time You've spent researching the articles and converting them into a talk for us! Appreciate it!

[@rupertvivian-davis920]

do you think you could explain in that case why hundreds of thousands of flint spear heads, arrow heads, knives etc have been discovered... or were they using them to peel an apple haha