Time Team S05-E07 Downpatrick,.Northern Ireland

Time Team travel to Downpatrick, one of Ireland's most sacred sites where St Patrick, patron saint of All Ireland, set up his first church. On Cathedral Hill sits a magnificent church renovated from its medieval origins in the 18th century. In just three days, Time Team are trying to find evidence of the early Christian monastery and the later Benedictine buildings (St Patrick's 5th century buildings of wood would have left no trace).
Their main aims are to try and find the foundations of the 70 foot tall bell tower, dating from around the 10th century and known from paintings to have been standing in the late 18th century and establish the boundaries of the monastery. It being Time Team, one search proves fruitless but the weekend ends with evidence of an extensive bank and ditch boundary, the foundations of a high status medieval guesthouse, with pottery and window glass finds and a food preparation building with unique rubbish chutes into a charnel pit for the bones of a huge variety of animals, indicating that the monastery and their guests enjoyed an incredibly rich diet!

[@geraldinesera8915]

After watching endless Time Team episodes, I want to congratulate Phil for being the most imaginative, hands-on, hard working, truly investigative, determined and passionate archeologist on the team. I relate to roles each member plays, but Phil not only puts himself into learning skills of the historic people researched, he mentors others afterward. Thanks Phil for all you could tribute.

[@blkmgk16]

He speaks honestly and in a goofy accent I'd love to pick his brain at the pub

[@robertsmith2734]

Hcm

[@adamsjerome1839]

Victor is so brilliant and so humble. I hope he is heaven in an quite spot just sketching away.

[@206stonner]

R.I.P. Victor R.I.P. Mick you are missed.

[@Happyheretic2308]

And Beric, Ian B and Robin …😢

[@Invictus13666]

No one misses those two frauds except feeble minded sheep.

[@OstblockLatina]

Phil is a true treasure! Also, he is the only man alive that could make me happy about hearing Cornish accent.

[@deborahparham3783]

Wiltshire accent.

[@davidmunro1469]

Always listen to Stewart and John. Victors work is a beautiful dream.

[@HerrWeinachten]

Mick shines in this one. The middle ages were his speciality and his passion for the era is evident.

[@justaguitardude]

aww mick such a caring guy.. he is all comforting john over his broken glasses. i would of loved to have a few beers with mick and listen to him talk about his fav subject.. this period of time in the church. we have a lot in common as not being a believer.. but so fascinating none the less. r.i.p mick!

[@cockertoo8920]

I have often thought the same. I too am mad on church buildings, architecture and history, but am a non-believer too. I'm also a vegetarian like Mick was, would have loved to have met him x

[@leifthornestedt6091]

Wine, not beer :) And i share your thought, a wonderful chap

[@boffeycn]

I continually find it telling that so many non-believers seem to know more about things religious than the religious do. Probably due to having an enquiring nature and being naturally sceptic.

[@upsydasyme3351]

Loved seeing the illuminated manuscript and the cartoon of Phil at the bottom. That must have touched him :)

[@lisakaz35]

It'd be nice if they gave it to him.

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

@@lisakaz35 They probably did.

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thanks so much for posting

[@mrs.schmenkman]

I want a t- shirt that says "Very very high sta'us biwdin"

[@TinkerBellaMama]

Surprised I could both hear and read that sentence!

[@yooper6161]

Tony just needs some MC hammer pants and he would sum up the 90's.

[@cmdrpolly]

many thanks for all these great videos Reijier, Such a shame that this great show has finished. It is interesting to watch the evolution of the program and the aging of the principals into the archaeological landscape. I admire all the participants and have a soft spot for Stewart- the genius in the landscape and of course Phil - oooh arrr

[@RKHageman]

Time Team has returned! Check out the Time Team Official channel to find out all about it and see the new programs.

[@baskervillebee6097]

Love Mick. Love the way he uses the word "look" as a period.

[@TheShootist]

"look there, look".

[@Happyheretic2308]

@@TheShootist ‘look you, look’

[@peggyjenkinson4514]

I find myself going back to these older episodes. More interesting than TT20.

[@Jigger2361]

...oh when SHE showed up lol

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

@@Jigger2361 I think _you_ mean season 19.

[@Jigger2361]

@@philaypeephilippotter6532 ah yes yes! ty

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

@@Jigger2361 I should also tell you that *Mary-Ann Ochota* was deeply unhappy about how she was used (as a _bimbo_ basically) and quit as soon as she legally could. She didn't get on badly with *Mick Aston* as he soon realised that her opinion matched his in essence. He didn't approve at all but I suspect that the _tits'n'teeth_ comment was before he got to know her. She is actually a highly respected historian.

[@Jigger2361]

@@philaypeephilippotter6532 well there we go... good information to know... I think we all acted emotionally with the demise of the show and sure, scapegoats were found

[@wildbill6675]

Phil is a go-getter he don't let nothing get him down he's game for anything I like that

[@insiden138]

micks sweaters should be put in a museum, they are as rare as some of the artefacts the team are searching for you can't buy them anywhere

[@EieCiePie]

I agree! Did you see his shoe laces in this episode

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

You can't buy them because fans knitted them for _him!_

[@pattimessenger6214]

Mick’s sweater is the archeologist version of Tom Baker’s Dr. Who’s scarf.

[@marklockwoodk9115]

@Patti Messenger 0

[@spacelemur7955]

Learn to knit. These are not complex patterns.

[@davidmunro1469]

Phil found the crapper. Well done.

[@lisakilmer2667]

The Time Team Extra which Reijer has kindly posted shows Robin Bush singing some of the music which you hear in the background. Turns out Robin is an operatic-quality singer.

[@cockertoo8920]

Was, unfortunately Robin died in 2010

[@willowscarclan]

The TT Extra to Downpatrick also has the best find out of this dig, which didn't make the show: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3SpkJuFg76Wm5I

[@boffeycn]

@FESERFACE Because basil believes he is clever.

[@pescaslove495]

Totally love these people!

[@daehawk9585]

I love it when Stewart and John are right.

[@TinkerBellaMama]

The crazy passionate old Irish Historian at the beginning of the episode 😂

[@TinkerBellaMama]

Oh his accent is the most proper Irish accent! You can hear it in the subtitles of his annunciation.

[@Dal606BBN]

What a cheer up! Time Team is Awesome!!

[@willowscarclan]

"He's following the rules of Benedict..." "Religiously..." "Quite a nice lifestyle. And I'm following the rules of St. Columba. Which means I have hell to pay. All the time."

[@delboytrotter2042]

The gentleman explaining to Phil about parchment had me flummoxed lol. I can generally understand British accents when most Americans cant.. but he had me straining to understand him. Then when I saw Phil having trouble I didn't feel so bad lol. Edit: Best show ever.. if i could only watch one series from here on itd be this one. I pretty well do that anyway..

[@deborahparham3783]

That's not British accent. More than likely it is Irish or Ulster Scott.

[@cojones8518]

Some poor historian 300 years from now is going to find that parchment and read "...hosts of the Followers of Time..." and think "What the heck does *that* mean? Were they time travelers or something?"

[@boffeycn]

@@zwartvalk2738 Indeed, and I doubt if any future historian would come to the conclusion of the OP. For a number of reasons. Not least because is is bollocks.

[@TheLittledikkins]

They will date the parchment.

[@spacelemur7955]

A flat grassy area, attractive only to livestock, worms and bugs, hides the foundations of an entire building complex virtually forgotten by all. Archaeology is cool.

[@TheShootist]

seeing Tony run makes me thankful he got old and stopped.

[@brianvittachi6869]

When I grow up I want to be like Stewart.

[@jasonmcsparron132]

You need your fucking head looked at

[@Sapharone]

@@jasonmcsparron132 You need your manners looked at.

[@dodo1opps]

I wish I had seen this episode before I went to Ireland and Northern Ireland in 2018 for a bus tour. I would have paid attention to the site. We visited the Downpatrick site and Belfast University were digging at the 'tennis court' trench. I did snap a few pictures of the church.

[@larryolimb9980]

And Phil sounds like one of the farmers on"All Creatures Great and Small". Wouldn't mind a little more of Sue though.

[@cockertoo8920]

They may both be country accent, but totally different parts of the country. All Creatures Great and Small would be a Yorkshire accent, and Phil's is a Wiltshire accent. So North and South West

[@boffeycn]

@@cockertoo8920 Wiltshire South West? Not really despite what Wiki claims. Southern England is accurate.

[@annodomini7887]

Sue was absolutely beautiful!!!!

[@jacobbevers8171]

IS* I’d let her piss on my face to see where it came from

[@mrrango25]

I want a Mick sweater.

[@boffeycn]

Get the needles out!

[@gregorys6074]

That Pic Ax is tough work.

[@lorawiese5897]

But no jiggly wiggly arms 😀

[@fatnsassy99]

I would love Mick's jumper 🤭

[@ANTINUTZI]

... In addition to the medieval meringue vehicle & binder for colourising manuscripts, scriptorium monks also used an alternative organic liquid which was, er, always at hand, shall we say. Should the hens not be laying. The pure gold vellum "to an airy thinness beat" that glorified many a seminal ecclesiastical manuscript grand capital was very reliably cemented using this literally off-hand technique. Vigourous rubbing and buffing would produce an absolutely glowing sheen ... 29:02 ...

[@Unreissued]

Dude. Hahahahahaha

[@karmicpopcorn6440]

Omg I got curious. So "seminary" root and meaning is a seed bed or place of propagation. Um, semen is the seed. How many seminarians know this? Why do they still call it a seminary? 🙈

[@eboracum2012]

I always heard it was urine.

[@Chubachus]

I think that they should have dug past the drain to search for the tower.

[@highonimmi]

+Chubachus I kept asking them to do it....alas, I was too late.

[@elminster710]

its too bad a lot of these guys have passed.

[@larryolimb9980]

Bull. I love Tony/Baldrick!! The show wouldn't work without him.

[@AudieHolland]

You're right. He's the everyman that everybody who's not a geologist, archaeologist or historian, can relate to. There was a short live 'proto Time Team' series, just four episodes, which were presented by Mick but that didn't work obviously because he wouldn't be asking our (the general public)'s questions because he would know the answers already.

[@RKHageman]

Actually, TT is back in production again, and it does work without him.

[@petrapetrakoliou8979]

Incredible how you can misread a map and tear up the road to find a drain - it was obvious from the map that they were mistaken for the localisation of the tower whereas most of the paintings were probably correct as they seem to add up with the map.

[@ehagendijk]

I totally agree!

[@Jigger2361]

....ma main man, Victor!

[@marceld1991]

My hometown

[@morrigan191]

John is quite cute without his glasses

[@Sapharone]

I think he's also quite cute with glasses.

[@SharpAssKnittingNeedles]

His buddy Chris Gaffney is the real hottie between them, though 😋

[@bluenoteone]

Ditto Upsydasy Me....Phil is a work horse. I'll bet he's thinkin about when, 500 yrs from now (the Lord help us), that MS will be found....the back bone of the team! The rest of you guys are ok too, lol.

[@mrmainlobster]

I totally agree with Geraldine Sera.

[@iulianmuresanu]

So young :)

[@Fangs4DaMemories]

Why was there no pottery during the 5/6th Century?

[@yvonnethompson844]

+Fangs4DaMemories as the romans retreated, the peoples left behind had to revert back to preroman subsistance practices so that the pottery finds in some parts of the world are minimal. it's not that there is no pottery,it's just not allot of it...

[@thedirtyfecker]

Pottery stopped being produced in Ireland after the bronze age. People moved onto using wood instead for making plates and bowls. Unfortunately, wood does not preserve well. In Britain, pottery was used by the Romans and so continued to be used there but in Ireland you don't see pottery again until the Norman period (1167 onwards).

[@stephanieruggles7783]

Mick comforting John about his glasses. And me thinking: „No need to become impolite Tony“ when I saw his impatient reaction. Yes: time is of the essence here. But no need to rush these professionals. And Tony already became a lesson or two from Phil Harding in other episodes. I still would have loved to meet Phil, Mick, Robin, Stew, Carenza and John to have a chat with them in a nice pub about their passion for digging. I am sure I could learn a lot from them like: How can you date a piece of pottery right after it came out of situ? Amongst other things. Sadly most of them have either passed or gone into well deserved retirement.

[@oldhaggys]

Don't forget to see the new episodes of timeteam that they are making now! Not exactly thensame but still interesting. Look for their two channels here on KZbin. Time Team classics show thebold episodes

[@RKHageman]

@@oldhaggysAnd Stewart, Carenza, and John are all still on board and doing their thing!

[@oliverwade8066]

54°19'39.4"N 5°43'17.8"W St Patrick Church

[@slhughes1267]

I do brain tanning of deerskin and have tanned sheepskin on one side. I'd always thought parchment was sheepskin--that's an alternate name for a diploma too. I know calf skin was high grade glove and shoe leather. SCAdians--Society for Creative Anachronism--research just about everything one could want from times medieval. These guys could have hunted down some local SCAdians and been shown how to make that parchment and definitely the Illumiunation & Calligraphy--including the grinding of pigments for colors.

[@barbmcconnaughey3070]

In which Phil & Mick the Dig do geometry...

[@TheCardolan]

The size of these trenches surprised me at first. We in belgium work via a semi-french trench system and usually clear off the topsoil with digger and then put trenches in on discolourations. So I'm used to trenches that are 20m by 60m on fields.

[@beardedgeek973]

I wish we had a Swedish version of this show. Just like Europe in general we are up to our necks in old uninvestigated stuff.

[@lupus67remus7]

The reason the trenches are so small is that this is only exploratory archeology: recording and confirming archeological sites for actual excavation later or préservation. They aren't actually digging anything up.

[@WeeeWriter]

Is Tony an archaeologist too or just an announcer?

[@ELCADAROSA]

Tony was just the presenter; the host, if you will. He brought a name familiar to many viewers at that time, much like Mike Rowe has done with "Deadliest Catch". And much like Mike, Sir Robinson brought a layman's view; asking "greenhorn" questions and bringing the answers and explanations down to a level that the general public could understand.

[@WeeeWriter]

@@ELCADAROSA Thank you for answering :)

[@ELCADAROSA]

@@WeeeWriter, you're welcome!

[@cathjj840]

He was an actor, but I believe be is or became somewhat of a historian himself, at least an amateur one. Also, I think he was a major player in getting the show started at all.

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

@@ELCADAROSA Actually he's been a good amateur archæologist for years and definitely before *TT.* He was a friend of *Mick Aston* before *TT* and was first choice of *Aston* to front the programme. Incidentally it's *Sir Tony* rather than *_Sir Robinson._*

[@mercedes523]

Is there some unwritten code that you must have unruly hair to be an archeologist? lol

[@RKHageman]

Um… outdoors in all weather, not a mirror in sight, hands full with trowels and brushes instead of a comb… yep, I would say there is! LOL. That said, most of the women have their hair either very short, or pulled back and tied.

[@TeresaTrimm]

First aired February 22, 1998.

[@HaulinWulf]

42.25 A ramp for wheel chairs? Sorry, for the joke. But it looks like a ramp

[@DonniePalmer57]

One thing I have noticed in these videos. lots of drinking, seems every night.

[@TheLittledikkins]

A common practice in the UK and Eire, usually in a pub.

[@SandraNelson063]

Engineers too. Seems to help the wild ideas flow.

[@deborahparham3783]

These guys work hard. Let them unwind in the pub if they want to. They've earned it and they are all certainly old enough to drink if they want to.

[@sgrannie9938]

I just noticed there’s a lot less gesturing of hands in the earlier series. Natural gestures but none of the chopping and waving in the later series. Who thought archaeologists flapping their hands like politicians and infomercial “actors” was a good idea? 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@DeborahParham-ve1vp]

That would be the idiot directors in their moronic attempt to "improve" the show. We all know how well that DID NOT work. No wonder poor Mick got disgusted and left the show.

[@jameshorn270]

One of my pet peeves is the use of "pour over a document" would make it very wet, for "pore over a document" which reflects the use of animal skins to write on. When you pore over a document, you are examining it so closely you can see the pores in the skin.

[@daneclark3161]

"Pour over a document" as in covering it thoroughly.

[@jameshorn270]

@@daneclark3161 pour water over a document, you ruin the document, pour paint over it and you can;t read it. In fact, paper came into use relativeily late in the medieval period. THe use of skins, the original vellum, is where the phrase comes from. But for many people, pour as in pouring a liquid is much more familiar than pore, something you have to keep clean to avoid acne. And of course, using animal skins for document is exceedinly rare today.

[@daneclark3161]

James Horn - It’s called a simile.

[@jameshorn270]

@@daneclark3161 It is called ignoring the facts.

[@daneclark3161]

@@jameshorn270 - What "facts"? Some persons understand that languages are constantly evolving, often in ways that don't necessarily make any sense; such as "bad" = good, and "cool" = good. And then there are those people who are OCD. I bet that your coworkers just love you.

[@desslokbasileus571]

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[@benediktmorak4409]

so, this - Time Team has only 3 days to find out - .a nice -spile - for the show? ( the calfskin had been in the horse manure for 3 weeks. for sure these things were done for the episode only?) not that it worries or bothers me. since - we - all know by now, or at least the regualr viewers, that it tokk weeks before the episode for preparation. and after an episode also time to clean up...

[@devinangola3458]

Numerous paintings with a bell tower in a different area…..ok now we’re looking for ditches with garbage in them. Ok quick, look parchment, and a wall! It was a big success!!😁😂

[@00BillyTorontoBill]

google maps.... 54.3275431,-5.7217386

[@meanderer06513]

An archeological team looking for evidence of early Christians at Downpatrick cathedral...which purports to have the grave of St Patrick...why not dig Patrick up, to see if he's there? Supposedly, St Brigit and St Columba are buried there, too.

[@SandraNelson063]

Alright. So, where are they buried?

[@meanderer06513]

@@SandraNelson063 Ask the priests. They should know, shouldn't they?

[@chinamanjw]

Corenza😍

[@skippyroo7597]

Wating on coke like wow

[@bertrandlechat4330]

trapptowers misogynist much?

[@radwulfeboraci7504]

The older fellow gives a rather gentile version of the relationship between the priests, monks and the people. The Bible was kept in latin for a reason- only the clergy was allowed to read and interpret the book and dictate which portions would form sermons. A couple of English blokes were executed for translating the Bible into English and using a newfangled invention - the printing press - to make it available to lay people. Couldn't have the rabble clueing into some of Jesus' more liberal teachings now could you.

[@highonimmi]

+Radwulf Eboraci exactly...knowledge is power and reading is the key. if the masses can read then they would see they didn't need a suppressive church (roman catholic) with that pesky priest saying you had to confess through him and he would absolve you of those sins....wouldn't want the dirty throng to see Jesus already did that....can you tell I am a former practicing catholic? seriously, there is a reason that church has their own bible. still, I love time team and all the things they find.

[@berniemccann8935]

Just as with Islamic Qur'an today.

[@mrs.schmenkman]

Ok. All that sounds very intellectual. However you take a lot of liberty with historical facts. For example- people didn't read because there was no printing press. This meant the only way to keep records required extensive hours dedicated to hand writing onto parchments and skins. Learning to do this would have required tremendous amount of money to do. Anything written would be of unspeakable value. It's not something you could pass around for anyone to read. Those who were translating the ancient scrolls collected to assemble the Bible would have to be amazing individuals with incredible education in ancient languages. Prior to the Bible being assembled Christianity was based on very limited texts. The average citizen would never had time to learn to read let alone to read. This is why they needed teachers to spread the This is barely even touching on the world before the printing press. Christ people did the same thing the Jews did and had to use others to write down instructions that would have been sent to leaders who then would have to spread those words by word of mouth. Since knowledge is power, and power corrupts, of course your going to have men who didn't wanna give up that power after hundreds of years of control. However, in my opinion it's far wiser to take into consideration the history before slapping modern philosophy onto historical events. No, I'm not catholic so I have no ax to grind. The way society slowly developed and how quickly it became sophisticated once people learned to try to live by Christian law is fascinating to me.

[@RKHageman]

You’re about 1000 years off, give or take. None of that has anything to do with Downpatrick. At the time when Patrick and his monastic community were there, there was no such thing as an “English language” to translate anything into. English, even Old English, didn’t exist yet; the various arrivals of Angles, Jutes, and Saxons occurred in the mid-400s.

[@RumMonkeyable]

Carenza exhibiting why they moved her from the field to more of a historian role in later seasons. She may be smart, but she always has to impress everyone with what she 'thinks' she knows....and, continually, talks over everyone....including Professor Aston.. Sad really, I think she was being mentored by Mick. And, in later years after distancing himself, appears to be tired of her showmanship, too. It is a tragedy of the health issues she encountered. This was a very sad situation.

[@lonestarbellepk]

What health issues did Cadenza encounter during TT?

[@lonestarbellepk]

Oooops. Corenza ?sp

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

*Carenza* was the *English Heritage* representative for most digs so she _had_ to press her/their opinions.

[@RumMonkeyable]

@@lonestarbellepk Just saw your reply, sorry for the delay in responding. Instead of putting the details of her health issues here, this is a small link that explains it a bit: www.imdb.com/name/nm0507004/bio

[@karmicpopcorn6440]

Well, all that link says is she was born. Granted, it's eventually fatal, but nothing to be overly concerned about.

[@OUigot]

Why is Carenza part of the Team? While everyone else is busy I rarely see her do anything except watching people work and jumping in front of the camera when it turns on? She doesn't bring much knowledge either.

[@PK2001X]

That is rude of you and shows only that you have not seen too many episodes.

[@OUigot]

@@PK2001X - Yes I have watched all the Time Team episodes, twice as a matter of fact, and just because you think my opinion is rude doesn't make Carenza any less lazy and a freeloader of other people's hard work.

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

@@OUigot 1. You opinion _is_ rude. 2. Your opinion is worthless as it's not true.

[@OUigot]

@@philaypeephilippotter6532 - ditto

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

@@OUigot I'm glad you agree with me.

[@uw1955]

They nearly always hab been losing time by to much discussion and late done geophysics. And even now Phil looks like in this stage of the show that his hair last has seen a comb when the battle of Towton happened.

[@rayw.7669]

Phil knows what a comb is? I thot he was born with that hat.....

[@christophersmith8316]

Ray W. They actually tested a Viking Comb on Phil a few shows back in Orkney.

[@highonimmi]

+uw1955 they start too late in the morning...9sh...really? oh dark thirty me lads. stop for dinner? place those lights at the trenches and be handy with those headlamps. goodness:)

[@petebeauds7181]

Tony....less of you talking and more of the genuine experts please.

[@highonimmi]

+Pete Beauds agreed

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

*Pete Beauds* *Tony's* purpose on *TT* was to talk to the archæologists to get fuller explanations.

[@bethbartlett5692]

WTH - You people Never dig in the South??? lol - Priests don't preach - they say a homily, a liturgy - they speak to the texts - Preachers - preach. lol

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

In the *UK* we use language differently. As *Winston Churchill* said, _two nations separated by the same language._

[@bethbartlett5692]

I would wager - it is exactly where the Artists depicted it. That Science Arrogance is so closed minded.