Time Team S17-E04 Norman Cross

[@hannekruse4249]

I live in Copenhagen, and i 'm sorry we don 't See you here anymore. But thank god, i found you on you tube.

[@mercedes523]

I Wish they had more days. It’s interesting to see a dig different than Roman ruins.

[@eskimberly7424]

I get a kick out of everyone on this show; each person has such distinctive and lovable quirks. I think after watching 17 years of the show in order ( thank you, Reijer) I think Stewart is my favorite. )

[@kristianstipe]

Agree. This is the only episode I've seen so far, where he is wrong. I was very surprised.

[@Monica_Baja]

I like Phil best, but do learn a lot from Stewart

[@stilts121]

I find it interesting that the CoE won't let them dig in the English cemetery because it's "consecrated ground," yet no one has a problem with them digging in the French cemetery, which was also presumably consecrated by the French priests who buried the French soldiers.

[@martynnotman3467]

Probably unconsecrated as it would have been Catholic and they were persona non grata at this point in history.

[@karphin1]

Mikey Stilts exactly my thinking!

[@eddie30991]

Pay attention to the programme - there wasn't enough TIME to apply for the necessary permission from the CofE, no-one said that the Church didn't give them permission. The TT dig is on a tight schedule (Time Team is a play on words...)

[@stilts121]

@William W. Campbell-Shepherd IX I don't know for sure, myself, but I do believe that that French army had priests with them who were non-combatants and taken as POWs at the end of the battle. Even back then, the general practice of war in Western Europe would dictate that each side would bury its own dead according to their respective custom. I could be totally wrong, too. I just found the wording to be interesting, that's all.

[@kibbyken5975]

My thoughts is, if they didn't know it existed, how could they now say it's concentrated?

[@javamann1000]

A former colleague and POW for years, told me that sometimes the boredom became unbearable, so that he would annoy a guard, in order to be put in a punishment cell, to get away from his fellows. A very brave bomber crew member.

[@TheShootist]

sounds like his Senior POW was a real twit to allow morale to become so low.

[@tinahotte9334]

Just happen to come upon this channel and love it . So interesting!! From 🇨🇦

[@Roaproductiondk]

Thanks for the upload. It is really super you have taken the time and effort to upload so much

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thanks for posting.

[@willjones7132]

20:55 Such a great show, the editors a great too the set up here is perfect.

[@WinstonOBoogie_]

Thanks for uploading these, Reijer... great work. And now that I've seen every episode, what am I going to do with the rest of my life?

[@marthareis5873]

I hope you watched them again!

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

@ Winston O'Boogie - Go out and use what you've learned to do your own digging...

[@rebeccaenlow4900]

Re watch

[@GameBrigadePlays]

Watch them again

[@marklockwoodk9115]

@@marthareis5873 y

[@JETWTF]

The problems of disease being the same as they were when on ships in a harbor is they were stacked up like sardines at night in the same way. The concept of the POW camp was sound for it's time, the Navy designing the sleeping quarters was the problem because it was designed for a ship. Navy designers are used to making things narrow and long and pack as many bunks in as possible using up the least amount of space for each one. Kinda required for a ship that can only be so tall, long, and wide. If the Army designed and ran the facility the buildings housing the prisoners would have been larger with multiple floors and maybe more of them. Hammocks wouldn't have been the go-to bed but proper bunks properly spaced apart the same way as they had for their own soldiers. Who would you have design the dormitories for your POW camp? The same people that already design your dormitories for your military. If they did use the Army to design and manage the camp it would have been a smashing success, the POW's would have felt right at home in the dorms because they would be just like the ones they lived in back at home. They would have been superior to the tents they slept in when they could setup camp when deployed. They would have been superior to sleeping in the mud when they couldn't pitch camp. Nobody would have been shooting at them, they didn't have to shoot at anyone. 2-3 hot meals a day is 2-3 hot meals more than can be expected on the march in the 17/1800's. The majority of the POW's would settle in and enjoy the boredom because it isn't what they were doing and enduring before getting captured. All that was wrong was Navy ship like dorms packing army into a small space like sardines in a tin just like naval seamen are.

[@stannousflouride8372]

Google Earth site: 52°30′20″N 00°17′25″W The French cemetery is here: 52°30'28.4"N 0°17'23.5"W The English guard cemetery is here: 52°30'22.3"N 0°17'05.2"W And the other, empty trench is here: 52°30'28.8"N 0°17'49.7"W The field shows quite distinctive crop lines in the unique shape of the camp, including the alcove entrances.

[@fedraescuderohaldane6962]

+Stannous Flouride That's brilliant, you can see the shape clearly. The top north east corner though shows traces of a large area being disturbed. I wonder if someone went back and removed the bodies. Hope they gave those poor souls a proper burial.

[@fatn30something60]

Stannous Flouride go to @peterboroughtel on twitter Stephen chamberlain just bought out a book on this I live here

[@imbwildrd3693]

I always wish I could tap them on the shoulder and say, "Hey mates, check out these lumps and bumps" Historical imagery in Google Earth is fascinating!!!

[@ChildrensSongStorytimeCorner]

You got to love Phil Harding....R.I.P Mick Aston...you gave Archaeology to the Public!

[@xxxftcxxx]

Yes! Indeed. The only person on this show I don't like is Tony. He's a lazy prick. Yelling at peoole talking to them like shit and never once picking up a shovel to help. Driving to talk to people in the field rather than walking with them... Prick

[@usoppbarbosa981]

@@xxxftcxxx That's what i like about him actually haha! He's telling the archeologists what the random people with limited historical knowledge would say. It makes Time Team way more relaxed, and not feel like a history lesson with shovels. And it gives diggers lots of occasions to hit him with some harsh comebacks :p Call it comedic relief

[@kibbyken5975]

@@xxxftcxxx Tony's job was to play Devil's Advocate. Scripted to keep them accurate.

[@Ardelanin]

@@xxxftcxxx tony was there as the 'stupid' audience surrogate. asking all the questions and teasing the archeologists a bit to keep them on -indeed- a slight edge, so they wouldn't forget that not everyone thinks like an archeologist and actually explain things in a way lay people can understand.

[@PtolemyJones]

Thanks for sharing, been ages since I have found an episode I haven't seen before.

[@pauljoy7826]

i live 3 miles away from here... there a well in the corner of the field i believe was used for the camp just off the south eastern corner. played in this field many times as a child.

[@SEAZNDragon]

Has there been any additional excavation since this episode?

[@lindasue8719]

"You can't always believe what you read in the history books." Indeed.

[@Cinnaprism]

Bettany and Tony on the same show... I'm dying here

[@yvonnethompson844]

those are some really awesome pieces of ivory/scrimshaw work!

[@nuckelheddjones6502]

+Yvonne Thompson That isn't Ivory. It is scrimshaw in the loosest sense that it was done in a prison run by the Navy but that is as close as it gets. Scrimshaw is done on the bones of whales by sailors. These are pieces carved by ordinary prisoners on animal bones. Not the same.

[@yvonnethompson844]

Nuckelhedd Jones had you actually payed attention... i used both words. the carving is what makes it scrimshaw. ivory.. is what they called both body parts used either way. we think of ivory as tooth materials but its more than that.

[@lameesahmad9166]

Scrimshaw is the name given to scrollwork, engravings, and carvings done in bone or ivory. Typically it refers to the handiwork created by whalers made from the byproducts from harvesting them from marine mammals. It is most commonly made out of the bones and teeth of sperm whales, the baleen of other whales, and the tusks of walruses. It takes the form of elaborate engravings in the form of pictures and lettering on the surface of the bone or tooth, with the engraving highlighted using a pigment, or, less often, small sculptures made from the same material. However the latter really fall into the categories of ivory carving, for all carved teeth and tusks, or BONE CARVING. The making of scrimshaw began on whaling ships between 1745 and 1759 on the Pacific Ocean, and survived until the ban on commercial whaling. The practice survives as a hobby and as a trade for commercial artisans. A maker of scrimshaw is known as a scrimshander. The word first appeared in print in the early 19th century, but the etymology is uncertain. Although the original scrimshaw was done by whalers; I think there is a good possibility that this carving was done by french sailors. Considering it was only +- 52 years after when the first examples of Scrimshaw came out I can see no reason why it should not be called Scrimshaw.

[@bruceblake9942]

It is a delight to see Bettany. She ought to be on the TT team. [Aussie in BC]

[@bonniesaxe9460]

This the first program that I have seen on Time Team from this period in English history. I have many friends who have worked in the prison system. The problem of over crowding is still a concern today

[@capie44]

30 June 2020 KZbin graduates to TWO commercials per video. One 5 second and one longer. I remember when you could watch a video without jumping through hoops and interruptions. When will the commercial stop when you: * turn down the volume? * look away from the screen? .

[@capie44]

@Luiz Gonçalves : thanks. I'll try it.

[@karmicpopcorn6440]

Nope, 2 long videos, sometimes they're both 15 second ones that you can't skip. Too fun when you're in the middle of a conversation and a 15 second one comes on and you're so aggravated that you forget what they said, so you have to go back and get slapped with another ad. Before you say it, I want to rag, not add yet another app to slow my phone down even more....

[@tpseeker3367]

Try clicking to the End of any yt vids with ads & hit replay. Any handheld device or browser will allow ads Unless adblockers are used or trying above steps. Wish the best.

[@capie44]

@@tpseeker3367 : TY. I'll try. But I still wonder when technology will require viewers to watch.

[@tpseeker3367]

Tis an honor @@capie44 . Well for now we can at least be giving the channels an extra view click till they do figure it out. By then we'll hopefully find another way to skirt them. Until then I'd (put's another layer of foil on hat & undies) be thinking about what's tracking the buttons we push, where our mouse pointers are & how long we stay on pages. Don't forget to electric tape yer cams especially handheld device cams.

[@susanf.7737]

So nice to see Bettany Hughes again, she’s a very good historian.

[@ManImJustSomeDude]

Helen's side of the bonnet wasn't impressed. lol I do like her though, I would love to see her host a timeline documentary about the Dame of Sark during nazi occupation. That's an interesting story and her particular way of exuding her passion would lend itself well to it.

[@sharimullinax3206]

Lovely art!

[@destonlee2838]

This is hardly the first prisoner of war camp. Shalamenasar of Assyria is known to have blinded 14000 POWs in his camps dated thousands of years prior. most interesting is that Assyria prison camps employed the grid system as a means of monitoring the prisoner population efficiently. Now we use that same grid to parcel out urban holdings.makes one think..

[@saberx08]

39:01 - 39:02, I wonder what that round thing was that came out of the dirt when the JCB scraped the layer away? I suppose it was nothing, since nothing of it was mentioned on the show.

[@robinrwilsonsauls]

Did anyone else see what I saw @38:04-to 38:08 ( just a few second later). Over to the left of the screen-watch the guy in the trench-there's a dark blur, and it moves down; and then up again-scattering before it's gone. I played it over and over-thinking it was dirt tossed-it's not! WOW! Who has any idea of what that may be????

[@balist0]

+Robin Sauls insect on the lens

[@brettdwigans2758]

El Diablo my friend.

[@balist0]

definitely an insect mate

[@brendariley8982]

Ghost, I saw it too.

[@balist0]

It's an insect crawling across the surface of the camera lens. I am a photographer and I've seen this many times.

[@deborahvretis3195]

I'm glad they addressed the fact that this place was NOT humane.

[@PaulMahon-w2b]

I must say it was very humane, look at your average human we are not a nice animal 😮

[@pjzdreamz]

Did anyone else notice the shadow at 00:38:00 ? It makes a checkmark-like movement from beside the digger at the end of the ditch, left screen, down into the ditch, then up and away to the right. Very Interesting, but I'm not surprised in a graveyard !

[@jesselambert4968]

Wow that was weird I just noticed it! It's a strange shadow too the way it moves and looks. It could be a bird I guess but you're right it's very suspicious looking definitely could be a ghost or spirit, so crazy! Good eye!!

[@CompetitiveAudio]

pjzdreamz An instance of an auto focus cameras not dealing well with flying insects or small birds while focused on objects in the foreground..However ethereal ideas sound fun as well..

[@jimdille6015]

+pjzdreamz While I doubt they were using one, it looks sorta like a shadow cast by a photodrone.

[@professorchesredmond9974]

+Jesse Lambert I use a large video camera. This is just an insect. Nothing more.

[@brettdwigans2758]

El Diablo it was

[@blackula0187]

Great episode, really enjoyed it, as much as I enjoyed watching Bethany!

[@CanChikMay]

Love, love This one

[@aastenu]

On 38:06 till 38:08. WHAT THE HELL is that black misty thing emerging on the far left of the screen and flying away?

[@danieknoetze4852]

POW Camp for soldiers. Concentration camps is for eoman, children and old non combative men. As per Anglo Boer War 1899 to 1902

[@51WCDodge]

At the time on the Thames at Woolwich in London were moored the Prision Hulks reffered to. The prisoners were used to work on the Woolwich Arsenal. This caused a lot of tension with the locals as they were taking local jobs, and cost the Goverment more than employing locals.

[@susanf.7737]

“Died by visitation of God” .... meaning, presumably the person just died and no one knew why. Strewth!

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

If you don't know why then surely, in a more religious age than now, that is reasonable?

[@seekernz7790]

Cause of death: Visitation of God - History Housewww.historyhouse.co.uk › articles › visitation_of_god Used in a more religious time than ours, it meant the death was inexplicable and it was thought that God had decided that it was time for the person to die. It later came to mean that the person died of natural causes.

[@rocketamadeus3730]

"YAY, a mass grave!" - Time Team

[@Makapida]

Paix à vos âmes braves soldats... enrôlés de force pour les guerres, et condamnés à mourir sans nom dans ce sordide camp anglais ...

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

I'm sorry but my *French* is no longer up to being written. The intent was to house the prisoners humanely, as well as possible while keeping them imprisoned. That it didn't work properly is very sad but the intention _was_ good.

[@Concetta20]

Actually maybe it is a really tiny bug, so small that without the camera focusing on it, it seems almost transparent.

[@TheShootist]

Captured single handedly by Sharpe?

[@jackhayes1904]

They need to be found and treated the with the respect they deserve the same way the war graves in Europe are, great work bring this story to the fore

[@rynally1956]

About the ghost thing, I have seen a lot of Time Team episodes and have never seen anything like that. You would think after all the environments they have filmed in there would be lots of 'out of focus' bugs running across the camera lens. I'm not saying it is a ghost but given the fact they are digging up unmarked pow graves it would make sense somebody or something is disturbed.

[@kristianstipe]

Raksha always digs the toilets :D

[@dalekundtz760]

I had to laugh when the people of Time Team were surprised to find a large number of weapons that were found in the ground where the prisoners of war were housed. It is not that different then todays prisons where on shake downs of cells find numerous shanks. During the same shake downs today contraband in the form of narcotics, alcohol, tobacco, tattoo guns, and even handcuffs are found. Why would they not find the same things back then? Today there are many prisoners who are good amateur artists who do small works such as art decorations on postal envelopes. Some prisons have wood shops where after the prisoner is done working, he can rough cut some wood and then work on a project of his own back at his cell. Many prisoners use the top of cans of food as cutting and whittling implements. You want a bottle of booze for a birthday or holiday, there are guards who will bring them in for a price.

[@PaulMahon-w2b]

Always!!!!!

[@garypeterson4483]

considering how the British treated the colinists during the American Revolution, it's hard to believe they were concerned about humanitarion treatment nof their deadly French enemies, especially with insane King George III running the show

[@danieknoetze4852]

Or how the treated the Boer woman and children in the concentration camps of South Africa during the Anglo Boer War

[@davekinghorn9567]

Gambling to nakedness and forgery... sounds like Chaucer in 'A Knight's Tale."

[@richard66754]

Five years later and I’m still infatuated with Bettany.

[@kathmorris6011]

That’s just as I feel!!!

[@Olentzaro]

They definitely needed a lot more than three days for this one

[@kibbyken5975]

Like most.

[@762rob_yt]

what the hell is it next to digger middle left at 38:03? looks like a shadow standing then moves down and up out of sight

[@lisakilmer2667]

Looked like an insect crawling on the lens.

[@kailiefennell1602]

Is Tony short or is that man giant!?

[@scarletfluerr]

Both!

[@mch12311969]

Tony is 5'4" I checked

[@kevinmangan7124]

Are there any records, if any recorded by the French prisoners back in France as to how they were treated, in this place?

[@ronpearson998]

I like how the British paint such a nice picture.

[@Concetta20]

It moves too smoothly and regularly to be a bug on the lens. I think it would also be a lot darker... hmmm...

[@TheBeetress]

Its a bug, walking on the lense. Out of focus but you can almost see legs walking

[@NolaGal2601]

It seems to me that the digs Francis is in charge of always have a toilet related trench somewhere on the site. Hmmm...

[@debrah7548]

Those bone carvings… needed knives to make those, yes?

[@djspbb]

Things like that were made in pre history without the aid of knives.

[@deniseadkins2901]

This was the first time I have ever heard coffin used as a verb. Coffined.

[@zealandzen]

In 200 yrs, our descendants will consider some of us inhumane, but we're getting better all the time, I like to think.

[@PaulMahon-w2b]

Yes we have become much more refined in our cruelty in our view of doing good for those that need it. Sadly 😥 😔

[@57WillysCJ]

This was better than the prison hulks. The total of deaths for the American Revolution was 11,500 from the hulks. That said the people in prisons were just as bad off.

[@cathjj840]

The latter was my thought, as well - that conditions in typical British prisons full of their countrymen were hardly better and probably often worse. It's sure that they were only a few decades earlier

[@geirbalderson9697]

It always amazes me how these large structures just cease to be seen above ground. Do the locals cart off the building stones and other structures for their own use? And why didn't the Navy protect their own prison? England is a strange place.

[@kibbyken5975]

Like so many places, after they're forgotten, they become ready made stone quarries.

[@richardphillips6281]

It was explained towards the end of the programme that everything was auctioned off after the site was closed down. There was the pic of a house made out of timbers from the prison.

[@capie44]

DRINKING GAME! One shot = "Fantastic, Incredible, Fascinating, Exciting, and when the English mispronounce English 😋

[@brettdwigans2758]

44:10 the floor of a hotel room?

[@brettdwigans2758]

@Howie Felterbush yeah 🤣🤣

[@dennisp.2147]

"It's not a Concentration camp!" "500 men in each hut..." Go on and pull the other one.

[@00BillyTorontoBill]

there is a difference between a concentration camp and a POW camp. When civilians are rounded up its a concentration camp.

[@dennisp.2147]

@@00BillyTorontoBill Semantics...

[@00BillyTorontoBill]

@@dennisp.2147 Nah.,.. big difference between caging civilians and not just soldiers. Called war crimes.

[@dennisp.2147]

@@00BillyTorontoBill Exactly. 500 men in a single hut is a war crime. soldier or civilian. The only difference between that and a concentration camp is the nicety of the name. But they gloss over that...

[@00BillyTorontoBill]

@@dennisp.2147 HMS Victory had 850 men in 156 x 51 ft. ..so military is fine... they are all sailors and are used to it.

[@margepalmer5316]

At the 38 minute mark, look to the left side of the screen while they are talking. There is a small tadpole shaped shadow that floats around.

[@marktegan]

Cut that comment short! Anyway, in the very first shot, that dark object is to the right and a few metres behind the person. In the second shot, it rather obvious like I said. I'm a skeptic, but that's "too in your face" to be a bug etc. I wonder if the camera crew would have any ideas?

[@lindasue8719]

I noticed that since the early episodes we don't hear much about authorities coming down and the possibility of scheduling somebody's property. I don't imagine it can be very popular for some landowners. As an aside, I suspect scheduling wouldn't be the case for this one because of the international aspect?

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

Probably but the fact that there are burials will be more important.

[@RobKoelman]

6:07 The site is already a scheduled ancient monument...

[@mch12311969]

I hope that these cemeteries get marked at some point, these men were soldiers afterall

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

Whenever one is found in the *UK* it is treated properly and with reverence.

[@yank1776]

Atleast they didn't build a car park over it.

[@WOLFROY47]

irony, was it a prison camp or a concentration camp ? whatever, the british were, the first people to use this method, and it wasnt just here, it was also used to house civilians, ie the boar war, as a side comment, the french, built Dartmoor prison

[@martynnotman3467]

Conditions for British soldiers in French camps were equally appalling if not worse.

[@toekafrank6998]

Boer War...for women and children

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

Oooo aaaaarr, aye...!

[@kibbyken5975]

Arr!

[@juliechi6166]

Would burial alignment really apply to prisoners of war?

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

Yes.

[@marktegan]

At 38:10 Look to the person at the end of the trench to the far left. There is a shadow standing next to them, which then swoops away from them. Any ideas?

[@MrGoat47]

they were concerned about the french being treated badly in the prison ships but they didn't mind the thousands of American dying on the ships in new york harbor

[@jimm6095]

Or the 26,000 Confederate soldiers who died in US prisoner of war camps during the 1860s?

[@00BillyTorontoBill]

First concentration camps were in the USA and the first nations peoples. 2nd was the UK in the Boer war, This was just somewhere for the Royal Navy to hold all the captured crews from ships.

[@cosmicgoatlady6957]

In America, prisoners used scraps to make Prison art, and they still do it today.

[@Exiledk]

About 4:30... why the hell are they putting on hard hats? Is the sky falling?

[@robroper8878]

Keith Chamberlain working beneath a digger bucket can be very dangerous, I can vouch for that

[@t.j.payeur739]

One twitch of that bucket can break your head..seen it happen...

[@fatn30something60]

Keith Chamberlain a chamberlain has just bought out a book on Twitter @peterboroughtel is it you 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@Exiledk]

No. BTW, I'm fat and 60 something... :-)

[@PtolemyJones]

I am surprised they didn't ship the bodies back to France.

[@surfer6857]

its the guy from the office as the computer guy

[@kibbyken5975]

How much of Tony's commentary was influenced by Black Adler?

[@robertbowers9856]

So many ancestors of recent history lost to bureaucracy,.

[@michellearohde]

It's either a bug or one of Napoleon 's soldiers...

[@silkysays3557]

near history is always forgotten...Jack the Ripper's identity was to be released 50 years after the event yet it keeps getting pushed back.We seem to know more about Greeks & Romans than present day events.

[@hilaryc3203]

It is only an urban myth that they know; they don't. They initially thought it was Aaron Kosminsk, but they messed up the DNA test and now it could be anyone.

[@silkysays3557]

i've read alot on dna.If they don't test enough markers & people.People find in small tests your own bother will show no relation.

[@jomon723]

It's still a Concentration Camp

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

*Concentration Camp* wasn't a term for a place that practised cruelty until later. This _concentration camp_ was meant to be simply a prison where POWs would be treated properly, as human beings. That it didn't work as intended is sad but the intentions were good.

[@karmicpopcorn6440]

I lived in a concentration camp when I was growing up. Lots of people packed in. Smelled bad. I always called it a city though.

[@zedwms]

Has anyone ever noted that both of their digger drivers are named Ian?

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

One was a professional digger driver, very highly skilled, the other is an archæologist who is also a skilled digger driver.

[@ericleach7022]

Am surprised that the inscription on that memorial is not in French. Of course the producers could not show everything.

[@susannebrown3255]

👍🏻🙏

[@blackdog.6398]

What doses cut drawn and quartered , Mean ,,,,? At would be pretty gruesome,,,,,,!, And losing your head hum ,,, it wasn’t a very good time to be a prisoner......thank you ,,,, Cheers maybe an other Day ,, finding some of those Roman encampments ....

[@brucesims3228]

Something disturbing about 1700 individuals being left interred in unmarked graves. Couldn't this have been used for forensics by some University group?

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

Not in the *UK.* We treat any corpses found with respect.

[@moorek1967]

Granny on the Beverly Hilbillies says to Milburn Drysdale "Shut up, or I'll send you to Andersonville". There wasn't anything humane about Andersonville. But the Brits seem to have figured out how to at least be nice to their prisoners. Time Team should have gone to Andersonville.

[@hilaryc3203]

That is the responsibility of the Americans.

[@nuckelheddjones6502]

+moorek1967 Don't fucking kid yourself. This is an English show , of course they ARE going to paint the prison in as good a light as possible. The conditions were terrible and no better than Andersonville. Where the fuck do you think white America came from? Fucking morons.

[@Hurricaneintheroom]

Andersonville, Fort Tyler, and the one in Chicago were not nice places. Most were built quickly and poorly. The POWs were crammed into small places with perhaps a water supply but diseases killed off a lot of them. Andersonville wasn't designed to hold the numbers that were crammed in there. Plus their only water supply was a small spring that was polluted by using it as a urination place which would then cause more people to be sick. Andersonville does have a cemetery with markers. I had an ancestor who was a POW in Fort Tyler and he left a walking skeleton. Wirtz who was placed in charge of Andersonville was the only civilian or POW camp commander who was hung after the Civil War for the conditions there. Unfairly I think because he did put in requisitions for more food, etc. but they were denied. Instead he took the blame. Local farmers brought in food for the starving POWs.

[@bluenoteone]

not a concentration camp? and how is it the world's first POW camp? I don't understand Tony.

[@scarletfluerr]

Concentration camps are to be distinguished from prisons interning persons lawfully convicted of civil crimes and from prisoner-of-war camps in which captured military personnel are held under the laws of war.

[@capie44]

16:21 We want to dig, "...but there's a problem." C of E: "Problem?" TT: "We want to dig." C of E: "Problem?" TT: 💲 C of E: "Problem?" TT:💵 C of E: "Problem?" TT: 💵💵 C of E: "Problem?" TT: 💰 C of E: "Problem? There's no problem." 🤑

[@0g.Ghost.7373]

If the church didnt know it was there, why do they need its permission to dig?

[@cathjj840]

If you don't know granpa put a casket of gold in your garage, why would anyone need your permission to go 'help you' find it?

[@0g.Ghost.7373]

Cath' J J You need mental help.

[@cathjj840]

Let my analogy sink in for awhile, John - you might get it.

[@benediktmorak4409]

onething was never mentioned, or at least i did not hear it, what kind of bones did the POW use for their carvings? i think i rather not think... and as Tony said they will contact the French War Graves Commission and also the French honorary Consul was there, i think this would be a good follow up, not necessary Time Team, if and what had further happened.

[@danieknoetze4852]

As was found in South African camps, animal bones. Cow or sheep bones.

[@Toys0714]

Just saying - Faye is amazingly beautiful. No disrespect meant.

[@Concetta20]

Yep. Definitely a bug.

[@yvonnethompson844]

saw the anomaly, i agree some kind of creature in the insect type

[@TonysWorld]

The sceptic in me is saying it's a birds shadow or a small bug on the lens...the believer in is saying "holy fuck, its a ghost"!!! good capture. :)

[@DanKetchum007]

Thanks camera guy for 10:54.

[@vbrentpoloway8935]

Had I been "Camera Guy", it would have been 10:54, 55, 56, 57...zoom in, 58, 59,... Zoom in closer, closer....

[@nuckelheddjones6502]

+Dan Ketchum Calm the fuck down you sexless creep.

[@professorchesredmond9974]

+Dan Ketchum I don`t even have to go back and look to remember the wonderful site of the Gog MaGog hills

[@philipross2013]

+Dan Ketchum Burial mounds. Somewhere to bury yer face on a cold night.

[@visualskies3858]

Creepy.

[@areyouavinalaff]

10:51 I can just imagine the director saying, ok camera sweeping round now, prepare to lean towards it for a better view. and she obliges.

[@ste1072]

Are you 'avin a laugh? Is he 'avin a laugh? You know this!

[@t.j.payeur739]

Absolutely..the producers know what they're doing..always have..the Brits put a lot of sex appeal in to their archaeology (Bettany Hughes, anyone?)...11:28, Matt checking out Blondie...

[@ExUSSailor]

"A humane response", that's a bad joke. Hope they were kept a lot more "humanely" than the American prisoners captured during the Revolution.

[@cathjj840]

They referred to that kind of incarceration, on the rotting boats, without mentioning American prisoners specifically (another post says there were more than 11,000 of those). The thing is, that was not only their fate but that of many British prisoners, as well, including women (sometimes only guilty of getting knocked up by boss or boyfriend, or simply raped). Way before that in history, taking prisoners of war at all and turning them into slaves was already a step up the humane ladder. Before that, they were systematically slaughtered. The winners at that time simply didn't have the resources to feed and house them, nor a need for their (probably unwilling) labor.

[@0623kaboom]

500 people per cabin .. 3 high 2 feet of space each ... and they call it humane ... more like a torture chamber ...

[@Paleophilosopher]

Love you Faye