Time to Leave UK and Live Elsewhere?

[@economicshelp]

Thanks for comments. ANother video that was fun to make - "Were things better in past?" - Not so clear cut! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jImWm2dqabiBb5Y

[@matpk]

SCOTLAND AND WALES SHOULD GAIN INDEPENDENCE AND JOIN EU 🎉

[@lovejoypeace6174]

Yes many things were better in the past and there were fewer people.

[@JJONNYREPP]

Time to Leave UK and Live Elsewhere? 1024am 3.12.24 i have been asking mother and father for nigh-on 50 years to help me leave for another clime. seems such pleas fall on deaf ears - conveniently so. it's a crap country and no amount of them tarting it up will alter that fact...

[@MarcoMasseria]

Come to Uruguay! The English are welcome!

[@JJONNYREPP]

@@MarcoMasseria Comments on ‘Time to Leave UK and Live Elsewhere?’ 2044am 4.12.24 were you saying that to a woman in your life or to the english in general? i would surmise the English flitted to Uruguay just as the Welsh flitted to the Argentine. was uruguay the first south american nation to be settled by westerners? the moniker uruguay suggests original or origination. maybe the name means it was originally settled by native tribes...? i dunno... as for moving to uruguay - yes, i would do that... seems far away enough to allow me to breathe freely and enjoy rugby and music. and beer!!! ahahaha...

[@ScottPerkinsLCMT]

If you are a Brit in your 20's with an education you should leave the U.K.

[@vanessahenderson1850]

Yes, definitely. The UK is well and truly finished.

[@Chris-qb4xh]

Really want to but have family here and also have the hurdle of having to learn a new language. I know plenty of people my age who are currently doing it and is something we are 100% thinking of.

[@BLUESKY-zt1nv]

well according to @Dogglebird above you should not be living abroad ..so you had better come back to the UK.

[@SunnyBirak]

Absolutely nothing here for a young educated person

[@moomagpie4265]

Don't come to Canada, we're right behind UK.

[@tomo_xD]

I left in 2015 for Poland. Life is great. The streets are safe and tidy. Infrastructure is getting built. I even managed to buy a plot of land and build a house, something that would have been impossible back in the UK.

[@puppets.and.muppets]

if you want a dentist in spain, you walk to one and you pay for it yourself. i dont have to get mixed up paying for the treatment of other people i dont even know ?

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@puppets.and.muppets You have to pay for dentistry yourself in the UK too, not covered by NHS. When I had a tooth ache recently, I was charged £140 for a 30 minute visit where he said it's a wisdom tooth, use a water flosser and come back if it doesn't go away as it may require a larger procedure, great...

[@jamesgeorge8915]

My nhs dentist closed just before i needed 2 crowns. Kerching...£1600 later on 2 year zero interest loan to pay off!

[@puppets.and.muppets]

@@DigiDriftZone you pay for yours, and then for some reason - you pay for a strangers as well ?

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@puppets.and.muppets Yes, the national insurance, employer national insurance, VAT, council tax and all the other taxes, fines, charges, road tax, clean air tax (ULEZ, LEZ, etc), fuel duty, etc, etc - once added up, your average UK salary is taxed something like 60-80% to pay for social services you largely can't access, useless police service and when you need a doctor, it's an 18 months wait - but they'll arrest you if you tweet about it.

[@puppets.and.muppets]

i left back in 2014 when it was apparent the UK was running a property ponzi scheme. i moved to spain. i am on the same dog sh1t wages, but life is 10x better and more free.

[@UnimportantAcc]

@@puppets.and.muppets yes the property market is very much a concern of mine. Artificially controlled to keep prices increasing... don't want to be anywhere near that 〰️💣️💥

[@aktolman]

I have just moved to Spain; it is a much happier place!

[@riceman78]

You are misusing the word Ponzi. Property cant be a Ponzi scheme. One of the requirements for a Ponzi scheme is that has no underlying value. This is not true for property. The property market may or may not be overvalued however that does not make it a Ponzi scheme.

[@Winter_Of_Civilisation]

@@riceman78the pension system is though, not enough people paying in to support those making withdrawals

[@UnimportantAcc]

@@Winter_Of_Civilisation I honestly cannot believe they did not make pensions an entirely self-funded pot from the get-go??? Who on Earth was in charge of designing this system?!

[@Thinkforyourself1234]

I returned to live in the UK around 6 months ago after living and working in Asia for over 30 years and doing quite nicely as a result. I wanted to experience the UK before it’s “gone” . I fear that I am too late

[@DigiDriftZone]

You are :( - 20 years ago London was the centre of the Earth, a place to strive for. Now it's crime, crumbling infrastructure, gangs with machetes, marches for intifada every Saturday, multi-year waiting lists to see a doctor, stagnant wages, skyrocketing cost of living, increasing flight costs, fines and traps on every corner for drivers, potholes, etc.

[@puppets.and.muppets]

it died in 2008

[@russmarkham2197]

i made the mistake of coming back to the UK for a while in 2003 but was able to leave again in 2009. Lucky. I will never live in the UK again. Only thing I miss is a few country walks

[@PakistanIcecream000]

@@DigiDriftZone Grenfell tower fire

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@PakistanIcecream000 What about it?

[@piccalillipit9211]

*300 DAYS OF SUNSHINE A YEAR HERE IN BULGARIA* if you are going to be broke - you may as well be broke in the sun...!!!

[@christopherellis2663]

The Balkans is the Crown Jewel of Central Europe 🇪🇺

[@ab-ym3bf]

Same here in the Algarve. I'm enjoying my "poverty"

[@formxshape]

I recently visited my Bulgarian friend in Sofia - it was a great place. 10% tax is tempting. Beers were amazing. Women seemed lovely. Very little obesity.

[@piccalillipit9211]

@@formxshape There is a LOT more obesity than when I moved here. Jeez how bad has it got in the UK in the last 15 years...??? Personally, I dont like Sofia, but thats just me. Velico Turnavo is lovely, Plovdiv, Im in Burgas which I love In next to the beach my bedroom window looks over the sea and my living room window over the lakes. Please come and visit the city when yuo get a chance.

[@Kaizen917]

We gradually packed up for Bulgaria over the recent years, though I was born there so Im biased. Still, there is definitely a feel of shift to the point that most of the Bulgarians I knew from London have at least partially done the same. Its not so much as grass being greener necessarily rather than being realistic that the same struggles will exist everywhere and facing them closer to home/relatives is easier. But one major plus to many countries in this part of Europe is that they are having to redefine a lot of things from the ground up. The UK on the other hand is starting to get too hindered with derelict rules and an "it was always thus" mentality.

[@growler5678]

Aussie living in the UK. Now wanting to take my family back. The UK is not in a good way…

[@CapitalismDeathSpiral]

Australia is getting out of control too.

[@jackhuff7793]

I left oz for Bulgaria,far nicer here than back in Australia,couldn’t live in the uk tho,….

[@zepho100]

Leaving dog 💩 for cat 💩. Australia is a mess too.

[@voodo0983]

Immigration out of control in Australia, NZ, Canada as well. All these housing markets are out of control and all for the same reason. Weather is better I guess.

[@KevinTalbotTV]

Oz 💩uk 💩Canada 💩USA 💩that’s what people get for being sheep and voting in WEF 💩

[@kirishima638]

If you ever spend any significant time in Western Europe or Scandinavia, and then come back to the UK, you cannot ignore how dirty, shabby, grey and completely uninviting it is. From the squat little houses to the miserable high streets, or the shabby public buildings. It was like that in the 1990s, and it’s gotten progressively worse, the biggest difference being the number of migrants everywhere, even in the smaller cities. Continental Europe has its problems now, but it’s still 1000x better, and anyone with the means owes it to themselves to get out.

[@formxshape]

Agree, Portugal isn’t perfect, but at least it’s not so damn miserable as the UK is.

[@tomastank1030]

In an episode of the Professionals first shown in the late 1970s / early 1980s Bodie is telling Doyle how a similar block of flats in Holland was clean and tidy compared to the one in the UK where they are observing, waiting for a villain to turn up.

[@dadoogie]

The UK had a hopeful feeling in the 90's that everything was shit but would get better, in the 2000s we started to see it all changing for the better. 2008 hit and we found that all the bad political choices from blair onwards would come to haunt us as we no longer had that promised economy to soak up the absolute waste of money of various institutions/healthcare/benefits/corruption/poor migration etc. At one point the uk really was on it's way to be something in the modern world, instead i can pay over the odds in a supermarket for dinner and watch a WW2 documentary on my 100+ quid telly license.

[@barbthegreat586]

So, you were a migrant in the UK and you're advertising for other people to become migrants in other countries. Interesting.

[@kirishima638]

@ I was born in England, as was my parents and my parents parents.

[@johnwheat5199]

I left the UK five years ago for sunnier climes, and have no regrets whatsoever. Further, I have no intention of ever returning, not even in a wooden overcoat!

[@russmarkham2197]

i left in 2009. I will never return to live there. The UK has gone down hill a lot in the last 10 years.

[@Yas_AMD]

@@russmarkham2197 tell me a country aside from GCC which has not gone downhill in the last 10 years?

[@gomperhooblet]

​@@Yas_AMDGCC?

[@vanessahenderson1850]

@@russmarkham2197 Wise choice. The UK is absolutely dire. Everything is way too expensive, there's no real investment, no decent employment opportunities, no stability, a health care system that isn't fit for purpose, comedy public transport, everywhere looks shabby due to the council deliberately letting everything go to rack and ruins, crime is through the roof, no family values and crap weather. So many people are sick to the back teeth of living in the Country. Even the filthy rich are/have been leaving by the droves. That it itself speaks volumes.

[@russmarkham2197]

@@Yas_AMD Not that hard. Singapore and Luxembourg come to mind. Norway and Denmark not bad. NZ not bad. Philippines is doing OK. GCC countries are awful, in my opinion. Much too hot with lots of air pollution. That is only going to get worse. Dubai? No thanks.

[@up_and_at_them]

I think the total lack of hope and any vision for a change is the biggest problem of UK. In US all agree that Trump means changes - some argue that for better and some argue that for worst. But all agree that things will change. UK is totally stuck with no perpectives whatsoever.

[@ProfoundFamiliarity]

True

[@kevh7941]

True. Although I'd side on the positive change regarding trump. At least he will put his own people first

[@tomastank1030]

No prospects.

[@ProfoundFamiliarity]

@@kevh7941 time will tell

[@kingstannisbaratheon7974]

@@kevh7941 Trump has promised to raise tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico which between them represent some three quarters of fruit and vegetable imports to the US. The tariffs will make it more expensive for companies to import foods which can't be grown in the US. Now in a perfect world the companies would take this cost on and not raise the prices for the consumer. But in reality they will use it as an excuse to raise prices much higher on basics to take advantage of the opportunity to make profits. This happened in Trumps last presidency so he should know from personal experience how ineffective it will be. But here he is again. This is just one example, explain how this puts americans first? Those who aren't large scale shareholders.

[@kristianlavigne8270]

The UK is the most dystopian country in Europe unless you are part of the 1% living off rents and the toil and misery of the lower classes

[@styopaa.z]

U haven't been to belgium yet

[@gabrielbear5268]

Im in my 20s and leaving the UK was the best decision I made. The UK's social mobility is in the ground right now. Most people are living hand to mouth and there are few ways you can improve your life. Pay is terrible, opportunities are sparse, job market is terrible, cities are getting poorer, more dirty, and downtrodden. Rent is continuing to increase and nothing seems to actually be getting better. I'd honestly say to people. In the past it was Europe and other nationals moving to the UK because it was a first world country. The UK is in a decline and a transition, in the next 10-20 years it will be below Poland for quality of life and the only people moving to the UK will be people from nations that are poorer than it.

[@Michael_from_EU_Germany]

That's exactly what will happen. Michael_from_EU-Germany, retired Lecturer for national and international economics

[@dw309]

What a shame for you to abandon such an incredible heritage.

[@gomperhooblet]

​@@dw309The country didn't want him anymore, what's he supposed to do

[@BLUESKY-zt1nv]

well according to @Dogglebird above you should not be living abroad ..so you had better come back to the UK.

[@dw309]

@@gomperhooblet ask not what your country can do for you; but what you can do for your country.

[@aaz1936]

My siblings have all left the UK and their lifestyles, purchasing power, prospects, and happiness went through the roof almost overnight.

[@forfengeligfaen]

Where did they go?

[@Shikuesi]

@@forfengeligfaen No point in asking, 99% of the time they never say where. Which is the irritating thing about all "leave the UK" type videos, it depends entirely what the standard of comparison is.

[@glennoc8585]

​@@forfengeligfaenyes I'd like to know....are people just saying things just to hate on Britain

[@lovejoypeace6174]

Oh maybe they go to the British overseas territories.

[@glennoc8585]

@@aaz1936 where are they?

[@mikey2raah443]

I left in 2020 for Grenada in the Caribbean, sold my UK home and bought a home on a quarter of an acre site for less than the price of a London studio flat. Life has been fantastic since leaving, last year I travelled to Barbados, Antigua & Jamaica. I am currently in Barbados and I travel to Jamaica again tomorrow. I made up my mind to leave the UK in 2015..

[@gothakane]

What if you need medical treatment though?

[@johniepatterson3746]

UK health care is 80 percent private...

[@johniepatterson3746]

UK Globalist are sending billions to Israel and Ukraine stop paying council tax goes to fund wars...

[@hTyKn1]

I was in Grenada earlier this year and I thought it was a horrible place. Probably the worst island in the Caribbean we visited. That may well have been the place we visited though but it was dirty and run down.

[@user-ht9fr6eh9u]

iron grilles on all entry points is prudent

[@shad0wyenigma]

I’m young and living in the UK and I have honestly thought about moving to another country. The thing I hate most is that we have been consistently been beaten down and told that radical change is unrealistic. Where has the optimism gone? Where has the spirit we had after world war 2 gone? Where has the belief that we can make our own destiny gone? I love this country, flawed though it is, and I don’t want to leave. I decided to embody the change I want to see. I’m building a startup business because I believe that things will only get better if people make it better.

[@robbiesheppard3280]

That is the 'spirit', mate

[@huwharvey]

This is the right mindset. So many people claim politicians are incompetent but also expect them to fix all their problems. Communities need to come together to see what can be done which will then build momentum. Sitting around complaining is not the solution.

[@TomRaine]

Dude you nailed it, that’s the problem, you suggest some radical change and everyone beats down on you. Idk if it’s a cultural thing or due to the social environment. I left and it’s different elsewhere. What the country needs is to be led by people like you, but I fear you’re just giving yourself a massive competitive disadvantage by staying. Wish you luck though!

[@Intheuk]

Get out asap - my son left after university in 2008 and has has an amazing life / I am leaving also. Live your dreams - you can find that in other countries not here. U.K. has zero aspiration.

[@ftdecastrolondon]

Many countries are even worse than the UK. Don't go to Spain or Brazil, for instance.

[@geoff_onYT]

Don't flee to New Zealand. I spend 65% of my income on rent in Auckland, and it's common to spend 50% of income on rent here.

[@0tispunkm3y3r]

There is a lot to be said for grass being greener...but it still needs mowing. Yes things are pretty bleak here. But it could be worse, we could be living in the Ukraine or Gaza. Everywhere has its own problems, much of the western world essentially has the same problems as each other so you can't really escape them. Finally a lot of people's problems are just that. Their problems. They'll still be problems in another country unless they want to genuinely address them.

[@mattabouttrails]

I live in Christchurch NZ. Much more affordable, less traffic, better weather, easy access to the amazing outdoors, and can (will) have a free hold property far quicker than most of the western world...😀

[@mkkrupp2462]

@@mattabouttrailsHopefully there won’t be another major earthquake!

[@barryfoster453]

Geoff, we can't even figure out if we can! We read the websites, but they are very confusing. We have both recently retired, and we would have £800,000 (selling our home) and about £50,000 cash. Do you know if this is enough to allow us in? As we have only about 25 years left and no children, we'd have no problem renting rather than buying. Can you help? Thanks.

[@PatrickAlbers]

I agree with most arguments, except the one about British tea. I am a German who lived in the UK for 12 years and recently moved back to Germany. Here you find a huge selection of teas in practically all supermarkets, whereas in Britain there are only very few traditional types of tea on regular supermarket shelves (most of which I dislike). Other than that, I now pay exactly half as much in rent as in the UK, where I lived at the outskirts of a city, while living in the „expensive“ area of the city of almost the same size in Germany. Also, public transport is so much better here. This is something Germans complain a lot about, but seeing it in contrast to the UK, it’s something I am very thankful about.

[@scarba]

You must notice though that Germany’s infrastructure is not as good as it was though? You just have to look at the roads and all the weeds beside them. It’s better than the UK but it’s slowly heading in the same direction

[@nothereandthereanywhere]

@@scarba Only if my biggest worry in the world would be weed along the road...

[@vonder7]

British are very proud of their „free” nhs and public transport for some reason. And both are terrible.

[@scarba]

@@nothereandthereanywhere it’s not my biggest worry either but it’s symptomatic of what’s going on. There’s no longer money for taking care of communal areas. More worrying are all the bridges needing urgently repaired.

[@Michael_from_EU_Germany]

@@scarba Reminder: 1990 Reunification in Germany. The communist GDR infrastructure on the ground. Over 1500 billion euros went from West Germany to East Germany. But the west of the country still looks bloody fantastic, considering the outflow of this money! No other country on earth could have coped with that.

[@FingersKungfu]

It used to be the case that people moved from the UK for a better life in other anglophone nations, like Australia, Canada or the USA. But Aus and Canada now have their own cost of living crises (pretty serious ones too); many Aussies and Canadians are considering leaving their own countries. America is also a mess on many levels.

[@mattmckeon1688]

Yep, kinda ironic that since Brexit & Covid Anglosphere destinations have become less attractive compared to the better off EU states. And that's despite the political problems there. US will probably trend upwards again, but there are plenty of risks moving there, and it's not easy.

[@bbc2630]

Australia is doing reasonably well and don’t think many Aussie are leaving - the two tiered healthcare system is working fairly well, a robust retirement savings system is fully funded, cost of living used to be much higher relative to other English speaking countries but now is on par with Canada/UK if not the US post Covid, new infrastructures like metro lines, motorways, airports are being built/upgraded across major cities such as Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. The biggest problem though is housing - supply not keeping up with rising demand from high population growth - predominantly driven by skilled migration (not humanitarian intake).

[@johnm7267]

The cost of buying a home in Australia has caused a lot of problems but I have cleaning lady because of my disability and she lives on her own and has recently bought a new car. I doubt if any cleaner in England can buy a new car. I was a hospital cashier and did part time other work in England and my wife worked and we could never afford a new car. British people have had the wool pulled over their eyes. It is a richer country than Australia but they are always pleading poverty

[@glennoc8585]

Yeah its pretty expensive here in Oz now. Petrol is cheaper than the uk but that's about it.

[@mattmckeon1688]

@johnm7267 Don't get me wrong, I still think Australia overall has some big lifestyle advantages over the UK, but gone are the days when Brits can move there and arbitrage their housing equity. If I were born in Australia, I wouldn't be looking to move to the UK, but conversely, it's now a high cost, higher risk move from the UK than it ever was. Not to mention the geographic challenges for anyone with roots in the UK. Much easier for those under 30, for sure.

[@arandmorgan]

What else are gen z supposed to do other than going online. No pubs, clubs or other places to enjoy life. The weather is terrible, and we are under a deeply embedded class structure. You can study and work, but have fun and enjoy your existence, hell no.

[@superdeluxesmell]

There is no meaningful class structure in the UK. Half the wealthy people’s parents were born in the developing world.

[@therealjag]

Also pubs clubs and restaurants are extortionate. Even me as a middle aged man on decent salary I find the prices startling

[@18996doug]

Gaming is cheaper than a meal and a pint 🍺

[@TC8787-yq7og]

Pubs are a total fallacy. They are not places to enjoy yourself, they’re simply places we’re told to enjoy ourselves. They drain your wallet, your spiritual and mental health, and before you know it, 50 years have gone by and all you have done is go back and forth from the same shithole for half a century, having the same dull convos with the same disappointing people who never left their hometown. Gen Z have got it right on that front.

[@shaun64vet]

I'd love to move away but don't have any skills to take with me. Even working in the railway in the UK feels like a dead end job now.

[@TheGalifrey]

Left 2 years ago for France, started a business, bought a house and renovated it, life is good. Had to jump through a lot of post brexshit hoops but haven't looked back.

[@UnimportantAcc]

@@TheGalifrey can you obtain a French citizenship in the future? Would make getting around much easier for you certainly

[@RealRyanG0sling]

Which kind of business if you don’t mind saying? 😊

[@burburchacha]

France is going to shit as well. In fact both UK and EU are going to shit. There's no future in Europe. Better to move to somewhere like the US or Singapore etc Way better places to make good money. Europe is very poor.

[@bexijay]

My ex also loved living there as freelance till he got a job and they taxed him 50 percent and now says it’s a shitty country 😂

[@symzie]

@@bexijay The highest tax rate is 45% on income over €169,000 pa.

[@kennethvenezia4400]

The NHS is still an institution of Pride and fairness where everybody is treated the same regardless of income, age, gender, race, or political affiliation. The only thing that has changed is now nobody gets treatment regardless of income, age, race, gender, or political affiliation.

[@russmarkham2197]

a long time ago, I was visiting my relatives back in England. My young daughter had an asthma attack. We went to this very friendly local cottage hospital. Amazingly good service. So kind. No health insurance needed. No cost. Since then that small hospital was closed down. Now the NHS is terrible.

[@xperyskop2475]

NHS died with CON19 when staff got used to doing nothing and they prefer to work from home till now

[@carrie5490]

@@xperyskop2475absolute rot! You cant work from home as a dr or nurse, or any other hospital worker, wind your neck in. I’m not even a British nurse but I take offence at such a ridiculous comment on behalf of all nurses and drs

[@economicshelp]

The NHS can still be very good. The staff are working under great pressure. But, it is true even the great and good have to wait the same time in A&E

[@RichardEnglander]

Yes, they even provide for people who just got here, don't demand medical insurance. It is insanity.

[@BigJohnson911]

Moved to Denmark. Much better quality of life. UK is finished!

[@jonsimmons4150]

Jobs? Pay? Rent? Disposable income. Denmark scores uber high on tax, rent, cost of living.

[@BigJohnson911]

@@jonsimmons4150 Low crime, no food banks, no homeless, roads are paved with little to no potholes, no waiting list to see a doctor, rent is only 1/3 of my income. Public schools are well funded, stronger unions and access to single market etc. The list is endless!

[@Tony11806]

@@BigJohnson911 Does Denmark have multiculturalism and mass immigration.

[@jonsimmons4150]

@BigJohnson911 + - pay? -Jobs? -Opportunities? You can go live in Greece by the sea, trotters up, watching the sun come up, go down, while doing a low end job ( if you can find one at all that is..) P.s, every country in europe speaks a different language, and there is national preference for suppliers and businesses. I.e. french will always buy french 1st ( my 18 yrs in paris, taught me this, as I worked in industry there)

[@is_42]

@@Tony11806 Yes...hence I left Denmark in 2000

[@willieckaslike]

Left Britain for France over 20 years ago. Have not regretted it for one second, and would never return to Britain.

[@colinsmith1288]

It depends where you live in France. Last year france had twice the murder rate than that of the Uk!

[@benwatts790]

i always thought the UK and France shared a lot of similar problems. Why did you move to France aside from better weather?

[@domgould5113]

Moi aussi..!

[@geertstroy]

In a more than twice as large country.....

[@KevinTalbotTV]

France is worse!

[@abrin5508]

I'm an engineer who left for the USA - the skill is in high demand and pay reflects it. Yeah some places are extremely dodgy but they are over 500 miles away from me. You also realize the opportunities and salary are dire for engineers in the UK - I get paid triple here in a reasonable cost of living area. The UK is still a decent place - but if you plan on making your own money rather than inheriting there are easier places to get ahead.

[@Serafiar]

I’m also an engineer looking to head to the US. What US state have you moved to?

[@anarki777]

It's an absolutely crap place to born into relative poverty. I dare say you'd have a better chance of moving up in many mid-income countries. I left some 5 years ago and since that time have managed to drag myself up to the middle class. Not sure it would have been possible in the UK.

[@rcmains4237]

As an Engineer it would be interesting to know what your industry is and where you moved to?

[@2011hwalker]

Correct, if you work hard in the US, you can really change your future financially. Wages here are remarkable.

[@MrAndys21]

I left the UK 13 years ago. It's a dumpster fire that keeps going.

[@leedsalex]

You live in Brazil... crime is through the roof there, given the chose of walking alone at night in either Rio or London I know which i'd pick. Maybe when you get the chance you should walk around a few favelas, see what its like for the less well off Brazilians

[@MrAndys21]

@leedsalex Brazil isn't just Rio. Maybe stop walking alone at night and buy a car.

[@leedsalex]

@@MrAndys21 But you're obviously not living the normal Brazilian life, you're a foreigner who is most likely much richer and has a much better quality of life than your average Brazilian. I'm sure Brazil is a fantastic place to live if you have the money and your in the upper middle class, much better than the UK in many regards, however if you compared quality of life from your average Brit to your average Brazilian, you'll most likely see the UK isn't as bad as people try to make out.

[@Eurobrasil550]

​@@leedsalexNever heard of the Southern States of Brasil? , far away from Rio, with a very different culture? , Check out the Santa Catarina coast. Most Brazilians would not venture into many parts of Rio at Night, or even during the day, but the country is almost half the South American continent! , Even in a small country like the UK, how can you compare an inner city run down housing estate in London or Manchester with rural Cumbria or North Yorkshire.?

[@venelinborisov3377]

If your bike gets stolen, the police don't have enough resources to look for it. But they do have enough resources, to arrest you for offensive comment on social media :D

[@alexandersantarpia2611]

Uk's Police officers are culturally the worst in all Europe, they don't know how to approach civilians and all the time try to escalate every small situation just to abuse of their power knowing that a verbal confrontation is not something they can afford

[@lukeneilson9799]

I think you mean they arrest people for inciting hatred. They would consider it a waste of time to arrest someone just because a nutter complained.

[@styopaa.z]

this is not happening in the Uk only.

[@pensacola321]

The good news continues to be that the royal family is doing very well.😮

[@robbiesheppard3280]

Except the Duke of Hazard...

[@alanbradley9621]

Hasn't he just found 3million down the back of a sofa!! Now I wonder whose money that was???

[@cobbler40]

Holidays are very important for Brits a chance to escape misery island. They will pay large amounts for a chance to live for a couple of weeks of the year. The farther away the better.

[@threethrushes]

It's tragic, honestly it is. I escaped Misery Island (c), and live in central Europe. My work-life balance is such that I haven't yearned to have a holiday at all for the last few years.

[@alanbutterworth4219]

I think your idea of the UK in 2024 being a free country where free speech is welcomed is so off the mark you don't even realise. Ask the people who are now sitting in UK prisons for liking a tweet or Julian Assange if the UK is a great place for justice. I am 61 and planning to leave this country I no longer recognise.

[@therealjag]

The illusion of free speech

[@intenzityd3181]

It's easy for liberal cowards to believe they live in a free country when they automatically align all of their beliefs with the regime.

[@PakistanIcecream000]

Also the 5 year prison sentence for the Just Stop Oil activists

[@FlatToRentUK]

You can make your point without needlessly exaggerating. Nobody is in prison for liking a Tweet. You're probably referring to people who incited racial hatred online which is a crime.

[@blushadow1726]

Doesn't the UK have freedom of expression, not freedom of speech.

[@kenville1429]

The country is going down the toilet. This is a country that no longer cares about social wellbeing. Best thing any young person can do is leave the country. It’s almost like the Tories knew this might happen and so was another Brexit benefit.

[@alexpavlides2047]

England also has a lack of good lifestyle factors: bad weather, lack of good nature, social life revolving around drinking

[@intelligenceofacertainkind]

True. But in Scotland, Wales and Northern England there is good nature relatively nearby.

[@hamsatd]

Its shocking how far ahead the rest of europe is infrastructure wise.

[@garyb455]

go drive in Belgium you will be really shocked

[@formxshape]

Taiwan, an island battered by hurricanes and earthquakes has had a highspeed rail for decades, and it’s still cheaper for a ticket than a Uk train from York to London.

[@vanessahenderson1850]

Yes, the UK has always been lagging way behind in so many different ways in comparison to so many other countries. Everything in the UK has always been done on the cheap too. Govt(s) have never been interested in investing in proper/quality training for different professions either. You only have to take a look at the so called apprenticeships. They are an absolute joke to say the least. So many companies and businesses out there taking on apprentices just to receive money from the Govt. They've got no interest in training people up properly. They then wonder why the youngsters give up, quit and go off and do a dead end job. Apprenticeships used to be excellent years ago.

[@markaxworthy2508]

And how much of it the UK paid for!

[@monkeyboy2297]

​@@garyb455 agree with Belgium, went there in our campervan, I dont think they repaired the roads after ww2, you think the UK's got a problem with potholes

[@toni4729]

Unless you're a millionaire, Australia isn't the place to be anymore. The RE prices have rocketed in the past year and still shooting up at a ridiculous rate. People can't get houses now and they're not being built here either.

[@jonathanjonathan7386]

immigration is off the scale in aus too now

[@markcanale8668]

Have u considered the regional areas just outside of the capital cities of Australia - it can be affordable.

[@defragsbin]

The point on the housebuilding spend vs. paying rent to landlords is symptomatic of the UK economy being short-termist. Other glaring examples: - HMRC sold its buildings to a tax-dodging company that leased them back to it (ironic, and also why?) - The NHS was forced to sell & privatise its internal staffing agency, resulting in higher fees paid to temp staff (why?) We privatise the profits and nationalise the debts.

[@mickmoon6887]

People were taught to think long term in education but idealized education and reality of short term greed are way different realities Leasing back assets in terms of real estate is private equity 101 that's the biggest problem in the world bigger than the problems in UK

[@barbthegreat586]

Welcome to contemporary capitalism.

[@threethrushes]

This. The U.K. died sometime in the 1980s. "Greed is good". I emigrated in 2015 to central Europe.

[@briansykes2806]

I left England in 1978. I haven't spent one day there in the last 20 years. Not long ago I flew over the country on a plane from USA to Amsterdam. I did not feel any nostalgia.

[@R53Hole]

lol, damn.

[@gusdagoose6048]

Damn! Hard feelings

[@kathylingerfield9836]

I moved to Japan from UK this year. Yes the economy is supposedly bad but it is absolutely buzzing in Tokyo. Lots of fireworks and festivals to attend. Restaurants are always full and loud. Service is outstanding and I'd say it was doing overall better. We have ToysRUs and other forgotten brands in the UK (although not Woolworths 😢 but Donqui Hotei is a much more exciting alternative) Overall everything works in Japan. No strikes, efficient public service workers and harmonious, safe environment. It was the best decision I'd made in 2025. Going back would be a tragic downgrade. I have no incentive to do so.

[@JK_Clark]

Are you from the future?

[@mw01908]

Germany has Woolworths, C&A and Netto

[@Warren_Lifts]

There is no future in this country for young people unless they inherit property from parents/relatives

[@glennoc8585]

People in Australia, America, Canada are calling saying the dame

[@anarki777]

@@glennoc8585 - They're all better of than the Brits. USA > Australia > Canada > UK.

[@glennoc8585]

@anarki777 Better off in certain aspects. Lifestyle is quite subjective. A brit with a good job in south coast England might find the lifestyle in Canada awful with very long cold winters. California is insanely expensive never mind the political climate in the US.

[@MATTE.U.K]

the thing is by the time this happens my good years will be behind me, i could be 60 when my parents die

[@anarki777]

@@MATTE.U.K - Consider yourself lucky. I will inherit nothing.

[@arandmorgan]

Trapped in the north Korea of Europe.

[@Phyt5]

The uk is not nearly as bad as some people are making it out o be

[@mongoliandude]

@@Phyt5I suspect the general mood in The Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea (which is neither Democratic nor a republic) is still a damn site better than here, despite having roughly the same amount of media propaganda 😂 And I suspect Brexitiers envy North Korea’s homogeneity 👀

[@kirishima638]

@@Phyt5it is objectively and measurably worse than it was ten years ago.

[@stevealbert497]

Yes I'd love to get out of the UK and go to North Korea.

[@markaxworthy2508]

Never mind. Come to Britain instead.

[@jeromehenryuk]

I am French, I left France in 1993 (moved to Spain) and in 2010 I moved to the UK (my wife is English). I think I was quite optimistic and proud to live in the UK but now it is harder and harder. Did you know that if you earn around £1600-£1800 (which a lot of people are earning per month), between 3-4 months are needed to pay for your yearly Council tax, Energy Bill, Water Bill, TV Licence! That's madness. Then you have to pay the rent, food, etc..... And we are getting awful public services. There is a sad vibe around.....It's a shame because this is such a t beautiful country.

[@Valhalla88888]

Scotland is beautiful ❤️

[@NY-Dani]

London is the best part of the UK and one of the best cities in the world but you need to be a multi-millionaire to really enjoy it. Utter madness that the majority of people cannot enjoy the capital city. Absurd.

[@philipvjones397]

One thing not mentioned was that the chances of being the victim of a random assault are certainly higher than in most countries. Plus the odds the person/s that attack will be caught, let alone punished, are minimal. Economics Help must have led a charmed life.

[@IAmebAdger]

The maker of this video at least gives numbers and sources. Care to do the same?

[@philipvjones397]

@@IAmebAdger I am not getting paid to make a video - or post comments. However, I have lived about half my life outside the UK and the only time I;ve been assaulted (other than a robbery in Barcelona which wasn;t violent) has been in the UK. As for law enforcement, it was in the papers last week that the police manage to solve about 5% of crimes - and that's only recorded crime. You either don't live in the UK or you live in some sort of fairy land.

[@philipvjones397]

@@IAmebAdgerI'm not getting paid to make or post comments on a video. My every day experience is sufficient. If you're that concerned, you can post some stats demonstrating how safe the UK supposedly is; though there were figures in the media last week indicating the exact opposite (as there are constantly).

[@nigelwatson2750]

Probably boosted multiple times, though 🤣

[@mystation5707]

We should not be forced to move from our home country because of our traitorous government and policies

[@PakistanIcecream000]

Exactly

[@PurityVendetta]

Having been utterly failed by the uk's education system, a failure to recognise dyslexia, I left school with few qualifications. By pure luck a friend living in Greece who know I was sick of the succession of dead end jobs in the uk offered to let me come out to Greece and look for work. I fou d opportunities beyond my belief and found myself working as a photographer and running the lab in a photographic and advertising agency in Thessaloniki. I worked in Greece, Germany and France. These opportunities allowed me to save and buy my first home. I had to return to the uk as my elderly and frail parents, both in their 80's needed to be looked after. I had no choice, I felt I had a duty to them. The social care system in the uk is catastrophically broken. I started a small enginering company. It was just taking off then brexit. I'm trapped in the rotting corpse of a country, my business, that exported over 50% of our products into the EU, was wrecked overnight. I'm very angry and bitter that little, insular england screwed me every time. I hate being trapped in a country withnothing to look forward to other than managed decline.

[@superdeluxesmell]

At least people can express their frustration on social media without going to prison…😂😂

[@jagman999]

So you got a cell with WiFi? Nice upgrade 😂

[@neotropos]

Oh... 😂

[@bigvinny333]

The prisons are full !

[@zachurich5046]

The thought police would like to have a word with you...

[@Alan-ou2id]

You know the UK is bad when you’re comparing it with China or North Korea

[@Taal111]

Brexit was a vote against unconstrained immigration; and then the people in government (who all wanted more immigration) punished the people by vastly expanding immigration. The resulting collapse of out public spending is a direct result of that. What's the point in voting when that vote won't just be ignored, but outright punished?

[@2011hwalker]

It was an under educated vote....people didnt know what they were voting for to be honest. It was a disaster.

[@someonelastname8175]

Having lived in 2 other countries, I can positively say that the quality of life is far better in warmer climates. You enjoy your days more, people are more healthy.

[@chrisg9627]

Well spotted ... we left immediately after the "so called referendum" and took our business with us.

[@jonsimmons4150]

All good and well the referendum.. - until you lost, i guess Butthurt 😂

[@D47JoyUnited]

I've even considered Greenland. Anything goes at this point.

[@styopaa.z]

still considering Greenland? 🤣

[@Nousmourronsseuls]

I think things will definitely get better. With over ten million people now living in the UK who were not born here and millions more coming each year what could go wrong? Apparently they are going to pay for my pension. Apparently they are going to save the economy because they work twice as hard as the indigenous population and only expect to be paid half as much. Apparently companies will make much bigger profits with all this cheap labour (and definitely won’t try to avoid paying g taxes on it). Apparently, there’s no need to train our young people because it’s cheaper to hire someone trained by someone else overseas. Apparently we mustn’t ever complain about the new arrivals or we could be seen as xenophobic or racist. Apparently, the longer waiting times to see my GP or get a hospital appointment have nothing to do with so many more people needing these services. Apparently, my husband’s wage hasn’t gone down because of more competition for his poorly paid job. Apparently our rent increase has nothing to do with much more competition for the limited housing in our area. Apparently spending billions of pounds of our taxes on illegal immigrants and their fictitious asylum claims is money well spent, much more important than grandad’s hip operation which has been delayed for nearly two years now. I’m so glad this countries on the up again!

[@BigJohnson911]

That's what you get for 14 years of Tory immigration policy. UK is over. Leave while you can.

[@dan44zzt231]

Yes the poorest people in society with the least power are definitely responsible for all of your problems.

[@lewishubbard8247]

"You're called racist just for being totally obsessed with immigrants and endlessly droning on about how they are the root of all evil. Oh, and we're never allowed to talk about it either!" Jesus mate, there's more to life 😂

[@mw01908]

You forgot to mention the billions after billions going to Ukraine to keep their war going, the billions to Nairobi, the billions to Syria, the billions to the World Bank, the billions to the WEF, billions to GB energy the green loss making scam company, and all the other countless wastes of money from both Tory and Labour governments rotten to the core

[@lillasomn]

Well said 😮

[@eanigma1142]

I moved to the UK in 2006, from Lithuania. I am considering going back because I see the UK deteriorating every year. When I moved here (I was 14) seemed like a dream I was able to eat food without counting every penny and have an opportunity to education but as years gone by I see how broken society and the world are. Surviving on a minimum wage as an immigrant, no longer seems like a life, more like a slavery for the system that does not benefit its people. Going back may be difficult, to reintegrate into a different culture, a culture which has changed since the years I moved away, but there is no time to fear, time to value my health and time I have. Of course, other countries suffer more, I have felt suffering to a degree, but existing in the UK is no longer an option, I have been numbed and brought to a downgrading economy. Still face xenophobia because of my accent. I speak 3 languages, I am cultured because I travel, and I embrace diversity, this is very valuable, but here we have become zombies and nobody cares about anyone. This is no life for humans, as the system obscures human nature to grow.

[@BoyeeSmudger]

Spot on. The country has been going this direction for decades, not sure it'll improve Tbh. There's no solidarity amongst us commoners against the cost of greed crises. Instead many are lapping up the culture war narrative like baby kittens.

[@RancidPrune]

If you are young, smart, and highly motivated to be successful, you should be looking outside the UK. The UK is not a good place to build wealth.

[@chrissmurray255]

I'm English, but as soon as I found out that my age, and my Englishness, made me a second-class citizen in my own country - I left. I now live in Spain, and I could not be happier that I left England.

[@dumbguy1007]

You didn't like the immigrants so you became one?

[@mongoliandude]

Headlines be like🗞️ Englishman: “England isn’t English Enough”. Moves to Spain.

[@chrissmurray255]

@@mongoliandude Thank you kindly for your support and understanding - it's appreciated.

[@christian_in_Spain]

¿Hablas español amigo?

[@jonathanjonathan7386]

@@dave4511 my brother is a civil servant, around 15 promotions happened above his grade over a period of ten years - not one went to a white man. You can dismiss that as 'anecdotal' if you wish

[@vanessahenderson1850]

Everything in the UK has always been done on the cheap. We have a health care service that isn't fit for purpose, comedy public transport, no stability or decent employment opportunities that pay a decent salary, extremely high taxation, crime that's sky rocketed and so forth. I could go on and on.

[@Bernard-ux2eb]

Not really on the cheap. The NHS has the GDP equal to that of New Zealand. More than oil rich Qatar. Everything's done on the expensive.

[@ricardoconn3807]

The left wing Bell - ends still want to throw good money after bad at it

[@nigelwatson2750]

This dude is a typical normie.

[@rustypipe]

yep you're righ

[@DarylSolis]

Thank you for this video but the UK and USA are not the only countries in the world to live in. I will share it with my viewers. It's time to wake up and get out of the UK. It's not gonna be easy, but it will lead to a much better life than what you will have in the dystopian UK, which is only going to get worse. What good things the UK has are just not worth staying for. SE Asia and Australia are much better options to move to.

[@edpowers3764]

Yea, USA is not ideal either imo. Born and raised here but moving to CH in two weeks. USA has the high incomes going for it, but is it worth it when you’re surrounded by unhealthy, dumb people? The rampant narcissism is also something to fathom. Very little culture, people glued to their screens, no international awareness, anger, hatred, excessive crime, danger, no walkability, no social net so you’re screwed if something goes wrong, and severe social isolation due to extremely superficial relationships that Americans form with each other

[@TheGalifrey]

We lack skilled labour because kids mainly go to university and don't look at getting a skilled job such as Electrician, plumber, bricklayer, carpenter, that's why those occupations are so expensive to employ. All of those jobs are capable of earning 6 figures.

[@James-tv4pl]

But at the same time we also lack university-educated skilled labour such as engineers

[@waynecartwright-js8tw]

ask a landlord what a EICR or Gas safe cert are worth and you will get your answer

[@UnimportantAcc]

@@TheGalifrey not everyone that becomes a tradesmen is gonna be running their own business. Do love me a weekend cash jobby tho

[@James-tv4pl]

@@basilmagnanimous7011 this is single-handedly the most racist comment I've ever seen. Being opposed to immigration because it's economically detrimental, fair enough. But get all that 'pure breed' nonsense out of here

[@johnjakson444]

@@James-tv4pl I don't buy that, as a semiconductor chip engineer I left 40 years ago to work in the US, 100 fold improvement in career prospects, but at 60++ long retired and kids grown, I am returning to buy a place and enjoy what the UK has but the US does not, social lifestyle, countryside, mild weather. In the US NE where I am now, its basically much too hot and muggy in the summer and in the winter much too cold and bugger all to do except shoveling snow.

[@serthorn]

Your channel is the main source of information about real state of UK economy for me. Thank you.

[@PFL44]

Remember not to get all your information from one source.

[@Logans3Run]

What is inescapable, despite any grandeur of architecture and beauty of it's landscape, it's certain 'people' that succeed in making everything look like, a depressing unliveable cesspit.

[@kevh7941]

It's easy to blame Brexit for everything but we who voted leave got screwed over too. It's like they didn't want anyone to win. We voted for less immigration and we got 900k net. That's deliberate to "rub the rights nose in diversity". Supply and demand, if there's less people competing for housing, the prices will fall.

[@jonnycavell]

Well you voted for £350m a week extra for the NHS. That turned out well.

[@kevh7941]

@jonnycavell I'm not sure you remember but that slogan on the bus was what could be spend as in a suggestion not a statement. We thought you lefties would at least understand that

[@IAmebAdger]

A lot of systems and business (including house construction) relied on European workers who are not coming anymore.

[@dermotcorcoran3181]

Well said, this chap has not worked out that Brexit was a result of the UK problems not the cause. Most of the problems stem from the banking crisis.

[@ricardoconn3807]

Owned!!!! Lol

[@MartinAdamD]

I am Polish and have been living in the UK for 21 years. I always considered this place my home. I love British humor, kindness, and common sense, although the latter seems to be increasingly lacking lately, replaced by political correctness. The UK has become a country of people who never say what they truly think. Only when things get really bad do some people take to the streets, but I feel it’s too little, too late. This country has been ruined and has lost its identity. I went to an Anglican church this Christmas, and there were few people there. Everyone prayed for refugees and wars around the world, but no one remembered to pray for the English. For those who no longer feel welcome in their own country. For the high taxes and high bills. Why do people take to the streets to protest for Palestine or LGBT rights, but not when the government takes their money and destroys the future of their children? Crime in this country has exploded. I remember summer evenings when my friends and I would go to pubs by the river in Henley or Maidenhead, walking around London, meeting random people, striking up conversations. Everything was light, cheerful, and friendly. Now, when I walk the streets of London at night, I wonder if someone will rob me. I worry about my wife and child. I worry about my savings and feel increasingly stressed. I work more and earn less. This isn’t how it’s supposed to be. That’s why I’m leaving in January. I’ll miss the Isle of Wight, Oxford, Henley, Marlow, Devon, Torquay, Scarborough, and Monty Python. I’ll miss M&S and Waitrose, lol. Unfortunately, I no longer feel at home here. This country has become too expensive for me, even though I earn quite well. I’m spending twice as much as I did four years ago. Goodbye, England. Goodbye, UK. I hope this country doesn’t soon turn into a caliphate.

[@Dizzydebs123]

The UK is on a quick decline. Our family of 6, 3 generations are moving to Hungary as soon as we can. We can buy a house outright for ourselves AND help our sons to buy houses outright with cash freed up from our house- if we stay in the UK we have 20 years of a mortgage left and can’t help our sons get a house (other than a small amount we had saved since their births). I’d be terrified of them having kids in the UK with the rising crime too. Such a shame it’s come to this 😢

[@eternalsharontate2311]

My family and I moved to Australia last year... Best decision we ever made. A friend of mine moved here when she was young and started feeling nostalgic about the UK, so she went back for a visit recently and was just shocked. She was actually very depressed by it. We’ve both agreed not to go back. It just makes me so sad to see the UK end up like this... All that history... Just to kill itself.

[@joanneward6746]

Ireland just voted in a coalition of the same 2 parties who have been on power for last 100years between them. Hard to tell difference between the 2 Housing crisis, massive car culture so can't really do without one outside cities and food is a bit more expensive but... Found it so much easier to get by here. Nobody assumes you're a scrounger if you're below average income. I have less work but more than double the disposable income

[@afs-drew9644]

It's not so difficult. Just talk to the leaders of Poland, Romania, etc.. and you'll figure out why they are doing well. Maybe they remembered that for their youth to climb the ladder .. the ladder has to actually exist. I am amazed how low rents are in Poland !! Great place to have kids. They can finish school, start up the ladder with affordable rent and ... Wait for it .. save for a home of their own - that is affirdable !!! Why ?? Smart government and policies vs UK, Canada, Australia , USA destroy the working class .

[@LinuxGalore]

Here in Australia, I'm seeing a flood of young well-educated and older wealthy people from the UK/Ireland. I visited a pub 18-hour drive from Brisbane out near Longreach last month and there was a freshly minted female Irish migrant serving beer doing her time to get her residency. What got me was how happy she looked, almost as though she was relieved.

[@toni4729]

Probably married to an Aussie. The owner of the pub.

[@LinuxGalore]

@@toni4729 doubt it, he is an old bloke with a nice wife and grandkids.

[@toni4729]

How much was she earning and does she plan on buying a house? You don't know do you. She probably expects to marry a rich farmer out there.

[@carrie5490]

@@toni4729what a ridiculous thing to assume! Most backers here serve their time and get their residency and then a career. She could be a nurse or a dr for all you know. It isn’t the 1800 Karen women can have a life outside of marriage

[@robbiesheppard3280]

@@toni4729 Farmer wants a wife?

[@HermannCortez]

Aussie here. I Spent 6 months living in rural Devon in 2023/2024. The thing that struck me is that there is zero opportunity for young people in the UK. They have no chance at getting a decent job and wages are absolute garbage. Worst of all, i realised that Australia would be in exactly the same position if it werent for the mining industry.

[@robbiesheppard3280]

The mining industry is collapsing and Australia will be worse than the UK we have no manufacturing industry the UK does, many Australians will eventually go there...they are the sixth largest economy in the world.

[@jonathanjonathan7386]

plenty of opps, just not in rural devon!

[@robbiesheppard3280]

@@jonathanjonathan7386 Cheers mate.

[@HermannCortez]

No it's not collapsing. Australia will always be Asia's quarry.

[@jonsimmons4150]

Getting a decent job in australia, is akin to getting one in greece. Bread and butter jobs with 100, 200, 300 applicants

[@jhfdhgvnbjm75]

At 34 I used to LOVE my country, now I HATE it! and would leave if I could, problem is language barrier and being disabled, so I'm stuck with the other no hopers...

[@spacemonkey200]

Did I just write this? 😂👍👏👏👏

[@threethrushes]

Nothing you can do about being disabled, but learning a language isn't beyond the wit of man. It isn't easy, but I guarantee you that learning a foreign language to near fluency is a passport out of a miserable life.

[@blaaaaahhhh15]

The problem is Neoliberalism or “Thatcherism” if you prefer. Hayek’s proponents, ironically, have paved the road to serfdom.

[@davideyres955]

Sure. Nothing to do with Blair’s deliberate policy to inflate housing prices to drive growth to fund tons of wasteful spending which ended up with 2008. Thatcherism dug the uk out of being the basket case of an economy “the poor man of Europe” into being in the top 5 economies in the world. Only an idiot would think that this was terrible. Sure things changed but if you think that the 70s was good then you are deluded. Labours policies drove 2008 and they utterly failed to hold anyone to account for it. It was a simple matter to tax the finance industries employees a small amount more to pay pay the vast amount of public debt the tax payers had to sacrifice so they could keep their jobs but no they all got off Scott free. Cameron and osbourne did the right thing in getting the public finance under control but screwed up tax cuts for the bottom end of the market and failed to take advantage of the low borrowing opportunities to finance rebuilding and rebalancing the uks housing. The current crop of idiots in charge are heading down the same route the 70s Labour did along with loosening regulations which is part of what caused 2008. No wonder people are leaving just as they did in the 70s brain drain.

[@michael-gs6kh]

The best choice I ever made was leaving the UK - I love every aspect of living in France!

[@mw01908]

What, even the immigrants who turn french streets into a war zone>?

[@user-Wojciech]

Where do you move though? I've been looking at where to move and nowhere is great these days. The whole of the West has gone downhill. EU is in decline. USA is heading for a civil war. Countries like Thailand are trying to tax expats on money earned abroad. The good times are over everywhere. You're swapping one set of problems for another. I do think about moving out of the UK, but haven't found anywhere that is doing great and is open to immigrants.

[@kevh7941]

Poland would be a good shout from what I've been reading. Low crime, cultural similarities, welcoming of British, low cost of living etc.

[@user-Wojciech]

@kevh7941 as you can see my name, I'm Polish, but I don't think about going back to Poland, the negatives that have always been there, are still there: massive, overgrown, punitive bureaucracy, overtaxtion, etc. (things inherited from the communists). Once every blue moon I have to deal with it, and I think "This is madness. How do people deal with it on a monthly basis." Polish business is doing well in spite of the governments, not thanks to them (the bureaucracy). Poland has become expensive. Prices of accommodation reaching Western levels. Some Polish people come back to the UK, so that tells you it's not great over there. I watched a YT video from a newly returned person to Poland and another thing they've mentioned is that you are no one without connections in Poland. Connections and corruption. Many more issues could be listed, don't remember atm. The newly elected Polish government is a vassal servant of EU autocrats and will work against Polish interest. EU regulations increasingly infringing onto people's lives. I seems to me like there is a lot of pro Poland propaganda on the internet these days, far too rosy. Even tough I'm Polish, after 20 years abroad Poland would feel like a foreign place to me. Many of the positives from the past are also gone - Americanisation of culture and adoption of the Western rat race.

[@kevh7941]

@@user-Wojciech forgive me as I didn't see your name and automatically think you're polish. I'm pleased you shed some light into the goings on in Poland. As far I have been seeing is that Poland is on the up compared to here in the UK. I don't agree with Tusk being elected as he's firmly part of the EU establishment by hey ho democracy is democracy. If I had to leave the UK it would be for eastern Europe so best of luck and see you soon!

[@vldgrs]

​​@@user-Wojciech I was looking for a comment like yours, thank you! Although I'm originally (15y ago) from Latvia - which doesn't enjoy such progress, yet they do for all other problems you listed. Anyway, I can surely resonate with your comments about people at the old homeland. UK is NOT a bad place to live, especially if you're well educated.

[@geertstroy]

Eu in decline.... how oversimplistic.... most countries are doing GREATEST.

[@cunawarit]

An Englishman’s home is his £500k shack-a sobering reflection of the current state of affairs. For the fortunate few who manage to buy a property, the reality often falls short of expectations. These homes are typically small, offering minimal living space and, if luck permits, a tiny garden. As for the garage, when present, it’s often so undersized that it can’t even accommodate a small car. On another note, it’s time we move away from comparing the NHS to the American healthcare system. The US system is deeply flawed and should not serve as a benchmark. Likewise, perpetuating the idea that the NHS is or ever was "the envy of the world" doesn’t help. Idolizing a healthcare system in this way prevents us from critically examining its shortcomings. Improvement requires recognizing and addressing its flaws, which is difficult to achieve when it’s placed on an undeserved pedestal.

[@piccalillipit9211]

*I MOVED TO BULGARIA IN 2009* the best decision I have ever made in my life - Im not rich, very far from it - I rent an apartment. But the quality of life is immeasurably better here than the UK I do Tai Chi on the balcony every morning overlooking the Black Sea, my rent is £130 a month. The public transport is amazing. We still have busy thriving high streets with bustling shops, the hospitals and doctors, the dentists and dermatologists are all distributed and local so you can mostly walk to them. The same with the schools and best of all NO THATCER - so they still have society and community here...!!!

[@puppets.and.muppets]

im in spain. no chavs or druggies. no pile of letters every week from the council and no goons knocking on my door all week....

[@fyank1]

Thatcher wreaked havoc on the U.K.

[@benwatts790]

did you learn the language?

[@vldgrs]

Is that with bulgarian salary? Then I'm not so impressed.

[@FilmPunk]

My meds cost about £300 a month if you pay full price. I don't think I could survive there. I would leave tomorrow if I could

[@jamest7539]

I moved in 2019 to teach English in China. I only miss go-kart racing and Greggs.

[@Mr35000000]

Dont they have Go=Karts in China?

[@fireat40]

Greggs? Why?

[@englishpedant]

Plenty of karting here in Shanghai

[@R53Hole]

At the SAME TIME!?!?!?

[@Tony11806]

They have Gleggs and Glo-klart racing in China.

[@JohnWozza-b6k]

The uk is not a nice place to live anymore 😏

[@MATTE.U.K]

I applied for 6 jobs this week... the only reply i got from anyone of them was a yogurt factory and i was rejected.

[@PakistanIcecream000]

The ghosting is more unforgivable than the rejection.

[@williamkennedy5492]

Life in Thailand was wonderful until Terresa May got her hands on Brexit and the pound went into free fall, eventually i had to return, AND what a mess greeted me, I would say to anyone if you can move out , get out we are sinking into the abyss , its almost like death from a thousands cuts, and lets not forget our leader Starmer has told us if you dont like it the doors open you can leave, I never ever thought a British PM would say that !

[@573lbt]

I think you’ll find brexit and brexit alone crashed the pound

[@Phyt5]

What do you expect him to say? Force them to not leave and become North Korea?

[@tobywebb6452]

It's not just economics, the disintegration of societal cohesion and the increasing balkanisation of UK cities is my greatest fear

[@theflyingscott1]

British food is now really good? You’ve got to be kidding me 😂

[@pwalk4160]

😅

[@rollforever85]

British food is great.. if you cook at home 😆

[@geoffclarke8934]

If I didn't have elderly parents to care for, I'd seriously consider leaving the UK though not sure where I'd go as much of the Western world seems quite depressing now. A real shame as I'm old enough to remember a period from the mid 90's up until around 2006 where the economy was generally pretty healthy and there was a more optimistic mood. Things all went pear shaped during the economic crash of 2008/09 and things haven't been the same since. Have no confidence in the current government who so far have made an even bigger mess of governing than the tories.

[@Zukias]

things felt pretty good for a couple of years after i graduated too between 2014 - 2016 just before brexit... London felt really lively and the place to be... Then it all fell apart

[@sparkymmilarky]

The birth rate is the single biggest issue we face yet we aren't doing anything about it

[@mongoliandude]

The Housing Crisis is probably the biggest issue, as it’s somewhat considered ‘the everything crisis’. E.g. people aren’t having children because they’re paying too much in rent, can’t afford to buy, or are living at home with their parents, and it’s difficult to live within a decent school’s catchment area. If UK businesses and people weren’t sinking their income/revenue into rent, housing, and office space, we’d be living in a totally different country.

[@UnimportantAcc]

@@mongoliandude no no we simply must import more people to keep the population exploding to secure ever-increasing property prices, it is imperative. I think... somehow?

[@Johng56]

Too many people turned to wearing rainbow flags, no men left to do the job lol

[@mongoliandude]

@ LGBTQ+ people make up just 3.3% of the UK population. If that’s the case, it’s straight blokes like us who aren’t getting the job done 🥴 Or, you know, there’s just a housing crisis and a cost of living crisis. It’s amazing the things The Daily Mail and GB News will get people to believe, rather than letting you know the simple facts like that employers haven’t been paying us properly since 2007 or that we haven’t been building enough houses in this country since Thatcher. It’s almost as if the 3 companies that own 90% of newspapers in the UK have an agenda to have us bicker about what’s up people’s skirts rather than the actual state of the country.

[@SirKeirStarmtrooper]

Well we subsidise the birth rate for a certain section of the population

[@frmcf]

If the British want to retain the idea of home ownership for most, then they'll need to start building more different types of homes, and ditch leasehold in the countries that have it.

[@KLYT325]

I am from Bulgaria and I am telling you we have more freedom of speech here … They put you in jail for posting your opinion on social media….

[@alexbrauneis6309]

Every place has its own issues, I lived in many places around the world and i can say the UK its not so bad, you always will be dealing with something whether safety, low salary, languages, expensive property, loneliness, cultural differences and we adapt or simply change, the garden next door is always greener, right?

[@BigJohnson911]

Leave while you can! United Kingdom of foodbanks, mouldy homes and potholes is not where you want to spend your final days.

[@papadajnia268]

true

[@mw01908]

The roads in the UK are actually worse than third world countries, I travel a lot and always when I come back I forget how bad the UK roads are, and leave behind much better roads in the so called poor country

[@DoctorKeo]

Left the UK in 2003 and moved to Cyprus, a really good decision.

[@Definetly_not_a_BOT]

I left my home country as I could see the signs of a collapsing society. I see the same signs in the UK, hope this time I am wrong. Anyway, we are leaving. Living abroad on an English salary is the way forward for those of us who can work remotely. 👍

[@KingRichardfirst]

Every day someone is stabbed and die in London. Very sad.

[@MotorsportUK2009]

UK is still one of the safest countries in the world having the 134th worst murder rate in the world out of 195 countries.

[@borisj]

Had a glass of wine with my wife in central London after the movies. Normal wine bar owned by a couple - "Damn Yankees" it's called. Nothing fancy. We selected the 2nd cheapest wine on the menu. Cost of 2 x 175 ml glasses.... drumroll - please sit down: £32. Can you imagine paying €35 for 2 x glasses of wine in France or in Spain ?? At the Ritz, maybe? This place has gone mad.

[@hydrohasspoken6227]

"We send 300 million € per week to the EU. Let's send it to the NHS instead". I am no Brit. In fact, i am from Mozambique (somewhere in Africa). Back then when i saw that bus driving around on BBC, i laughed and said to myself "there is no way anyone will fall for this, right?". They did. And they would again.😁

[@seansmith445]

Don't be dumb. People voted for Brexit for 100 different reasons.

[@hydrohasspoken6227]

@seansmith445 true that, that bus was one of the reasons.

[@raykleiner3151]

Since leaving the UK in 2002, I never looked back, watching from a distance the UK going into a downward spiral, accelerated by Brexit. Although not everything reported by the press is always true, the trend is certainly downwards. The main reason is the medieval, broken and corrupt political system, which is anything but democratic.

[@alexflips393]

Moved to Thailand in June. No council tax, no tv licence nonsense, electricity is less than £50 a month, rent is less than £200. Water practically free. The only problem is the visa, it’s not easy to get.

[@btpennycook]

The difference is we were a manufacturing powerhouse in the past now we ain't. Mass immigration is to blame as well

[@ConorDoesItAll]

Mass immigration did not sell all the british businesses.

[@Tony11806]

Yes mass immigration is too blame but most people prefer not to talk it.

[@Tony11806]

@@ConorDoesItAll Are you saying that mass immigration has been good for Britain and do you know why we have a housing crisis and all our public services are struggling to cope because of an ever increasing population.

[@michaeladkins6]

The rich gave you a scapegoat.

[@TheDazzleur]

@@michaeladkins6 It,s easier to blame" scapegoat" anyone who "appears" different...not the super rich "white..ie looks like you" who are just laughing at you...with no pity or remorse.

[@tonylyons7711]

I would advise every young man and woman to leave Britain ..Learn Polish and go to a real country!..A successful country like we was in the 60s , a nation who had a collective vision..SAD BUT THIS COUNTRY IS FINISHED 😢

[@sanchopanches]

Absolutely correct

[@threethrushes]

This x100.

[@MotorsportUK2009]

Is Poland really that good? Seems like people are giving a false advertisement of the place, looks miserable from what I have see and its next door to Russia.

[@sanchopanches]

@MotorsportUK2009 Poland is great. It is a future steam machine in the economy of the Europe. They keep safe their borders against invaders from common sources of invaders.

[@1001legoboy]

It is way past time to leave. I left in 1991, planning to come back. I came back in 2006 for one year and left permanently.

[@andrewclimo5709]

Oh, I think we can blame HR management for quite a lot of this. Keeping wages low, down skilling professional staff, failing to incentivise hard work and keep up with non salary rewards, failing to ensure managers are competent and qualified. That work is unrewarding and workplaces mostly toxic is 99% down to HR.

[@threethrushes]

It's part of the larger problem - the corporate world is utterly and absolutely toxic. I worked for a global, British pharmaceutical company at their HQ and it was sheer hell.

[@gjn17]

Brits going out, influx of Refugees in from boats 😢

[@SuperStareGry]

Why would you move with all these incoming brexit benefits? In 2016 i was told all these worries are just project fear.

[@setyeva0]

absolutely .....sunny uplands as far as the eye can see with unicorns sh!!ing gold bars everywhere.

[@BigJohnson911]

Brexit knuckle draggers are blaming left wing global elites for 14 years of Conservative government policy of stripping the UK to the bone to their mates. Before 2010, there were ZERO foodbanks. Today we have more foodbanks than Mcdonald's! UK is finished.

[@russmarkham2197]

the UK government is out of good ideas and can't even admit that Brexit was a big mistake. And brexit makes it harder to leave the UK now. Young people should emigrate even if it's hard to leave.

[@superdeluxesmell]

Brexit isn’t the problem. Most of the EU is in the same boat

[@chinering23]

If we had a proper Brexit it would be getting better. You got brexit in name only. It's down to the plebs running the country and their handlers.

[@tarotbyamber7233]

I think once things settle it will get easier, I left to move to Spain November 1st 2019 before brexit, anyone still wanting to move to Spain don't give up, as I said it will get easier

[@adamp6320]

What no one speaks of, including you, when it comes to British weather is the ridiculous wind. We have yellow wind warnings SO OFTEN and it is brutal, it is terrible to be in - destroys fencing and trees and gardens - I don't know why it isn't more commonly discussed when saying the UK has bad weather. It's not just the rainy gloomy grey days and cool weather - it is lethal wind of 60kmh gusts for days on end. Very common!

[@andross2058]

Very true! I live in the countryside, and the wind also often causes branches to fall onto the road. Not nice.

[@Boris-xx7dw]

We left 8 yrs ago ! Once I experienced immigrants trying to get on my trucks, and they managed to get across the med then the channel wouldn’t be hard . It’s the best thing we ever did , the standard of living leaves the uk standing .

[@roddychristodoulou9111]

I saw this coming years ago so we left in 2006 and moved to Cyprus . By the looks of things back home it's the best decision we've ever made . Sunshine all year round , no traffics jams , very low crime rates , no homeless on the streets , and ten minutes away from the beach . I wouldn't return to the UK even if you paid me .

[@peterdobson3347]

Already done it, and no regrets. Didn't like what England became after the Brexit referendum, and can easily afford household bills as a pensioner. Bulgaria saved me from slavery.

[@BLUESKY-zt1nv]

well according to @Dogglebird above you should not be living abroad ..so you had better come back to the UK..." Nobody should have the right to live in someone else's country - doing so should always be by invitation. And the host country should set the terms and the rules - that is a basic principle of sovereignty."