Time travel in Game of Thrones, explained

[@fabiolamenendez7221]

It's so sad to think about how much potential Bran had and how the series ended, just read all the theories here :(

[@horizonset]

Well house of the dragon now presents plenty of opportunities

[@ola45678910]

@@horizonset bran is obviously not gonna be in HOTD though...

[@horizonset]

@@ola45678910 well I meant the fact he could literally manipulate the past, so his influence could be a possibility in hotd

[@ola45678910]

@@horizonset oh I hope so, that would be cool but I don't think it's gonna happen

[@horizonset]

@@ola45678910 yeah, it probably won't. But it's fun to at least theorise I guess

[@randall172]

The Mad Kings "whispers" is Bran trying to warn the mad king of the white walkers, to stock wildfire, and to try and revive the dragons.

[@dionesiaortega]

Randall Young and he was shouting “burn them all” not really to the people but to the white walkers and wights.

[@SupportGamin2024]

@@dionesiaortega you should know by now that the theory is debunked,The Mad king was mad because he was always insane,it wasn't because of bran,season 8 is the last season none of those fan theories such as bran time traveling to the mad have happened and will never happen. D and D clearly don't care about fan theories,which shows.

[@dionesiaortega]

SupportGaming but I still don’t understand the purpose of the night king. I wish it would be explained in later episodes. I kinda feel really sad and I have no energy to watch the remaining ep anymore. :(((

[@SupportGamin2024]

@@dionesiaortega same here

[@SupportGamin2024]

@@dionesiaortega I liked the theories of the night king being Bran stark being trapped inside the nk's body after venturing too deep into the past(Obviously Debunked now at this point) ,I would rather have that as a canon story than the BS,The actual show came up with in the final season ,it would explain why night king's face looked like brandon's.

[@yourmanFran]

Bran is most likely the voice in The Mad King's head. Bran uses his abilities to tell him to "burn them all", meaning the White Walkers since it's their weakness, but instead the king burns the citizens. Thus, making him The Mad King. But that's just a theory.

[@KLLWCH]

Francis Riso Thats actually not a bad theory.

[@01Mukil]

A film theory

[@dee2652]

Francis Riso but what would have been the point in Bran saying that at that point in time. Plus the actual Bran we see now was not born or only little when the Mad king ruled and he was not the 3 eyed raven until recently.

[@elle19ism]

Another issue: fire does nothing to the white walkers, it just kills the wights. Bran knows this. So why would he tell Aerys to "burn them all" even though the real threat are the NK and the other WWs who are all unaffected by fire?

[@olaoluwabode-omoleye356]

Bran will not be trying to change the past again since he’s seen what happens when he tries. He was still an apprentice when he tried with Hodor and his father. He’s now the three eyed raven. He’s not a kid anymore.

[@yuhgetintoit8577]

watching this video today and super disappointed bran's story line was similarly thrown out the window as he was

[@yogiefebriawan4617]

I know right :(

[@igniii3348]

AoT did what GoT couldn't, I recommend give that a watch, it cured my GoT disappointment

[@pokoirlyase5931]

So in the end maybe Bran is all the Gods .. And all the Gods are diff interepretations of Bran communicatin'with people throughout history .. Which means the faceless men are right : There is only the stranger

[@BabyStarTVLearning]

omg my brain

[@_tyrannus]

*meltdown*

[@Bellanzarite]

Except the Stranger is one of the Seven Gods, which the Faceless Men worship under a different name, the Many-Faced God. Think like Hades and Pluto in Greek/Roman mythology. Different name, same meaning (death).

[@Lady1991ist]

o_O

[@pokoirlyase5931]

+Macabre_Macaw in a direct sense yes he is death .. But if we think about the name "stranger" he is the only one who doesn'have a name correlated to his job ... So maybe the faceless men know him as "the stranger" and inteoreted him as the God of death since he probably asked for some important figures in history to be killed

[@lisastockdale6103]

Ahhhh back to day when we thought GoT actually had a decent twist and good story line we could look forward to.....

[@sahalanimation]

my nose is bleeding

[@bertdutchie]

bring us the girl and wipe away the debt

[@yourdoom9868]

vox is vox populi confirmed

[@reimei84]

+your doom it all makes sense now

[@alphawolf6736]

sahalanimation I love you Penny *Desmond Accent*

[@didid3ksa]

Booker you bleeding again

[@anonym3214]

Very good analysis! Great moves Vox, keep it up, proud of you :)

[@HoneyBunnies256]

H3H3 reference? xD

[@kasper2447]

+Honey Bunnies No he just happened to say the exact same words.

[@zehan2316]

sodie pop

[@atouloupas]

Papa Bless

[@Thebepob]

Moritz M One of the dragons becomes a White walker next week.

[@ayd1651]

Bran confirmed as bran the builder

[@C4nadian]

i don't think you fully grasp the meaning of the word "confirmed".

[@ayd1651]

+C4nadian I think you a non believer homie

[@C4nadian]

Aydin Oh i believe, but theres a difference between something thats just a theory and something thats confirmed.

[@ayd1651]

+C4nadian I just confirmed it, my bro works at hbo

[@elizaheathen]

dude if that's for real it'd be so hype

[@dorkmax7073]

Vox barely touched on this, but yeah. The theory goes that Bran went back in time through a vision, gave advice to Durran Godsgrief on building Storm's End, built the Wall and Winterfell, and that's why the historical person is called Bran the Builder

[@HelenWA]

yup!!

[@allowmetowander5511]

who watch this after season 8 aired?

[@Buffy8Fan]

The one thing everyone always gets confused with is the differences between multiverse, dynamic, and fixed timelines and how they each work individually from each other. This explained it well.

[@greenrbtsiqi]

I still don't get it. If the reality cannot be changed, what is the point to go back in time to be the source of all the present events? The outcomes are still the same.

[@sl9wdive]

idk, for fun I guess?

[@samsepiol4908]

Because they don't know they can't change the events. Always in this type of time travel style the characters travel in time with the desire of changing something, not knowing they will be the source of what they want to change. It's called predestination. Also, determinism in philosophy describes this. By the way, Bran doesn't want to change the past, he is just looking for answers in the past to act in the present time.

[@rahulsaxena3380]

The present is fixed BECAUSE of the fact that Bran went in the past to make the present happen. Get it? It's necessary.

[@abhisheksuratkar]

To learn about origins & weaknesses & solutions

[@KawaiiPanda8D]

it reminds me a bit of the move interstellar, where cooper has to tell brand how to get cooper to the space station

[@tristanmarroquin749]

One of the best fixed time lines. LOST series

[@AhmedGhazwan]

It's funny that even though LOST and Game of Thrones have little in common (as TV shows), but slowly I can see a lot of similarities between them. Not just in terms of this new time travel thing, but also in some of the characters.

[@TheFuzzy1987]

Whatever happened, happened.

[@robertjenkins6132]

I didn't like the ending. Hopefully GoT will be better.

[@Linknown]

I was remembering this while watching got.

[@juandiegovarcal]

G. Martin actually said one of the best series he had ever watched was Lost, but he was very disappointed with the ending. Soo my guess the ending won’t be anything near the Lost’s

[@CakestheCheese]

RICK AND MORTY DOES NOT DO TIME TRAVEL!!! Only alternate dimensions!

[@AlexandreDuqueque]

this

[@serenity6831]

Yup

[@denis953]

not until now at least.

[@Ciekawostkioporanku]

They will NEVER time traver. The director said so :)

[@AlexandreDuqueque]

he didnt say never. he said time travel is a complicated fuckery that he is not interessed in doing it at least for now. But he let the possibility open.

[@humpty4205]

Bran is what we want to be, 'sitting all day streaming content of every category on Netflix.'

[@whytho1368]

Joke's on you Vox!! Bran's warging abilities were never even utilized in the end 😭

[@kxp_2238]

30 seconds into this video, and I just noticed something. In both Attack on Titan and Game of Thrones, Eren and Bran both travel back in time to observe memories like its a dream. They can actually manipulate the events that happen in the dream, but they aren't really manipulating anything. They are just doing the same thing over and over again because it has happened before.

[@kxp_2238]

Eren uses his powers to manipulate Grisha into killing the Royal Family (Bran uses his powers to manipulate Hodor into holding the door).

[@kxp_2238]

Much later in the story, Mikasa eventually realizes Eren is too far gone and chooses to stop them despite their love. This is the same thing that happens between Jon and Dany.

[@kxp_2238]

In Game of Thrones, The Wall is a magically constructed barrier to keep the Others (undead) away from the Seven Kingdoms. The Nights Watch are the only ones allowed out and exist to inspire hope as well as act as a place for the kingdom to send their unwanted and criminal populace. The Others as we find out are not monsters but unwillingly changed beings by the Children of the Forest.

[@kxp_2238]

Most of this credit goes to u/StevenCutiePieDeMayo on reddit.

[@_Mayibongwe]

How I'm so happy to see somebody mentioning the AoT Bootstrap Paradox. Both Eren and Bran were using powers that they didn't have in order to lead to a timeline were they acquire those powers. Eren needed to use the Founding Titan to go back in time so that he may influence events that lead to him getting that power in the first place. Same with Bran. He had to use his "future" powers to "go back in time" and ensure that he ends up getting the power. However, there actually isn't any concept of "going back in time" as these events have been shown to have already occured in the single existing timeline. Messed up stuff fr, all mind-blowing.

[@danielwilliamson6180]

I am beginning to believe Bran Stark was the real villain of Game of Thrones.

[@KenoshaKicker]

You got me excited about a series I've watched twice, great video

[@sceroye3538]

puts a whole different meaning on "everything is Brans fault"

[@kateyu2158]

wow great job vox

[@anonym3214]

Indeed. On point analysis on a difficult topic.

[@Karatoona]

I don't see it as time travel. to me, it's more like a psychic link through visions.

[@TheJR7360]

I agree. I think this is how George will explain it in the books.

[@maxwellcomora8446]

+TheJR7360 yeah, I like this so much more than time travel

[@dr_rune]

But it does change the past. It's not really time travel because Bran is *not* in the moment, but he can influence it.

[@pokemad1998]

^ But that wasn't in the past, that was a vision of something in the present.

[@hannahcanela9570]

It's like mental time travel, he does time travel, but not phisically, only mentally. George RR Martin really likes telepathy, it's a theme in pretty much all of his work, including A Song Of Ice And Fire (skinchanging, the weirwood net, ancient valyrians misteriously controlling dragons...)

[@rajhimself]

dude you have the best animation and clear content on all of the internet as far as have explored in this timeline!

[@milianozuniga-deanda4955]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! My boyfriend was really confused about the link and kept asking my questions that were difficult for me to explain! This is why I love you guys!

[@VictorAndradeGuitar]

"[...] the most important character in the whole story. For all we know, he could be orchestrating everthing we've seen in the show so far" How writters handle this possibility: does nothing but tell John he is a targaryen and becomes king.

[@onie619]

I time traveled back to 2016 by watching this video.

[@ramayanaroxas5457]

He did orchestrate everything in the show. He's king now.

[@dancapelle]

How does Vox have less than 1M subscribers

[@420bars]

Because they deal with very controversial topics.. You can be a Subscriber today and unsubscribe tomorrow because they showed a video you didn't agree on. Most people cant handle truth.

[@mishanya2077]

Who said some channel on KZbin shows THE TRUTH™?

[@iBeFloe]

The best people on YT have the lowest subs.

[@iBeFloe]

It's not forcing if they've been open about it since the beginning lol They're KNOWN for being very liberal. At that point, it's completely your fault if you run into a liberal video that makes you uncomfortable.

[@48162342]

Because Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge blatant truth.

[@tadaizm]

how u do this yellow marker lines? is it after effect or another adobe stuff?

[@mwm48]

That would make sense bc George R R Martin has always said he became a great story teller through being the dungeon master in dungeons and dragons. In this case, Bran is the dungeon master. 🤔

[@maeshamahmud6347]

wow my favorite channel talking about my favorite show, what a great day.

[@GhostXVll]

animated Bran's freaky smile at 2:36

[@Gunz9511]

How did bran create hodor? He wasen't even born when wylis became hodor? Same with the mad king theory. He wasen'y born. Can someone explain for me?

[@zachhall5031]

in the time travel paradox what about if you went back and had someone else kill your grandfather? would you not exist or would you not have been able to travel and have someone kill him?

[@drakekay6577]

1:03 This is not a theory of time travel, which it is often confused with. In multiverse theory, there are an infinite number of dimensions. You would not be traveling along your own time line, you would simply change dimensions. Not creating a new timeline.

[@joaquin.mp4]

SPOILERS This is why Harry Potter and the Cursed Child is not consistent with the books. Cursed Child has a multiverse timeline, while Prisoner of Azkaban uses a fixed timeline. If the characters in Cursed Child used anything but a Time Turner to go back in time, then it would be OK. But in Prisoner of Azkaban we experience a Time Turner's effects in a fixed timeline, so why 20 years later this kind of device works differently? It doesn't make sense.

[@danielwilliamson6180]

Time travel stories teaches us about the consequences of time travel and that you could erase someone from existence, create paradoxes, alternate realities and alternate timelines.

[@_Mayibongwe]

Oh my, is this the same Daniel I subbed to a long time ago? I think I met you in one of the comment sections of the movie Cyborg (1989). Pleased to find uu here.

[@danielwilliamson6180]

@@_Mayibongwe Thank you. Good to be here.

[@fabianramos3052]

Bran is the Black Zetsu of Game of Thrones.

[@cliffyblyro]

I still don't get it tho. Is this "time loop" something I as a human being must accept? Becaue no matter what, I try to make sense of the situations that led to Hodors disability. There must be a timeline, where Hodor was not effected by Brans jedi mind tricks. There has to be a starting point, right? Like a Timeline where Hodor was a normal guy without a disability, where Bran decides to warg into his past self or something along those lines. Also If the Three-eyed raven knew what was going to happen, he had the option to tell Bran something different, but he chose to tell Bran to warg into Hodor. What if he told Bran something different?

[@pukeyourguts]

yeah, it's stupid

[@middleearth3054]

I think it is more the cause and effects that are mixed up. Normally you would say events at a time t have been caused by events before that time. In these types of time loops things will be able to effect things not only in the future, but also in the past regarding our normal view of time. Kind of like time being just like a space point that can be reached from different time points. It would be a bit similar how a cyclical time universe could work with the future coming back into the past. This would though be more at the quantum level. The arrow of time does seem very strange in these types of universes though and I don't think it work well in fiction to be honest. Although it is fantasy.

[@emmanueltsapekis9872]

Yeah, people want to defend it because it is Game of Thrones, but a paradox is a paradox. Closed loop or not, the problem is that it is a loop regardless. The Grandfather Paradox. Bran was there because Hodor dragged him there. Hodor dragged him there because of his disability, and Hodor has his disability because Bran was there

[@mcconnll2]

This is why l hate time travel in stories. It messes them up. Why can't they just write a linear story. Time travel is over used in fiction and l hate it. The only one l can accept ( but still prefer if is not there ) is the multiple realities one. Where you never go back in time really but simply jump to another universe. That is the only one that makes sense to me and ends up being more satisfying plot wise because it doesn't create loops or paradoxes or things that undermine the entire freaking story structure. I don't think Got needed this kind of addition. But at least it is a more original way to do it. He doesn't really travel back in time, he creates mind links with people no matter where they are in space or time, which is different, at the very least,.. less seen and more original. Anyway, l prefer stories that have a linear logical timeline with no time travel of sorts happening, unless it is really necessary.

[@suzukisixk7]

@@mcconnll2 just think of it like a book already written and your a passenger riding along in one direction. Bran has the ability to go back and re-read pages or skip ahead and read pages that's all. It's actually the best way to handle time travel because it basically takes it out of the equation except for viewing purposes.

[@ThePersanu]

that last theory hit me like a train.... damn..

[@NLI915]

The time travel in Hulu's 11/22/63 (and the book it was based on) is pretty interesting, it's worth checking out if you're into that sort of stuff!

[@mcq5557]

Thank you. By far the explanation on that time travel I was struggling with. That ending assumption could be very possible in Season 8

[@therielle]

My theory: when Bran called “Father” to Ned, he basically assured that Ned would do anything to protect Lyanna’s son (Jon/Aegon) whom he was about to meet. How? By becoming Jon’s father. Damn. 🔥❄️

[@HelenWA]

never thought of it that way...

[@Mxrlou]

Now I understand everything :) This season created so much other theories. Bran could be responsible for major events in Game of Thrones. And Arya could be the face behind really important characters.

[@user-dh4bz7fk9z]

Me: "you can't travel in time" Hodor: "Hold the door"

[@TheLPGuitars]

Great video guys, thank you so much

[@TheJonnyEnglish]

Bran will turn out to be the series biggest antagonist

[@oldlegend7703]

HODOR !!!!!!!!

[@jackparker8602]

*Hold the door

[@oldlegend7703]

+Jack Parker RIP hodor

[@Jack-qj6gy]

THE KING IN THE NORTH!!!

[@Kiddo_williams]

Bruh stop😭

[@chef2654]

Bran's time travel adds about as much to the show as Bran does as a character... which is basically nothing.

[@TheJR7360]

Bran started the war the moment he climbed that tower. He's very important.

[@chef2654]

+TheJR7360 He's just a character that is implied to have done a lot of meaningful things, but we haven't actually seen him do anything that effects others on a large scale. Might be the way HBO has chosen to film Bran's story, but he just seems horribly boring, whiny and no more important to the current plot than lets say the mad king.

[@GMHannibal]

Him climbing that tower is the driving force of the show. If he never did, there would have been no war. Ned, Robb, Catelyn, and all the people who died in that war or because of that war would be alive.

[@patriautism]

The fixed timeline is also in Terminator... They just thought it was different.. Remember John Conner's father is the man sent back to protect him (Kyle) creating john Conner and cementing his role..

[@_Yuurt]

****Potential Spoilers***** I have a question about how this would work. What I don't understand is did Bran warg into Hodor in the past or the present? In the past makes sense because his eyes go white and he is told hold the door, which makes no sense to him at the time and so it appears to him as a vision that he lives the rest of his life with. Also it'd be pretty dark if he warged into him in the present, sacrificing his life without his permission.

[@tired2sleep]

damn i never saw Bran as being this important until I saw this. Very nice Vox. I gotta watch this like 10 times

[@rurutuM]

Bran is Franklin Richards of Westeros

[@FlannelPrime]

In season 3, ep 2 Bran attempts to shoot the 3 eyed raven in a vision. Jojen then appears and tells him "you can't kill it you know...because the raven is you". Certainly matches your theory!

[@TheGirlInSneakers]

I'm a bit confused. So what's the difference with what happened in GoT and fixed timeline?

[@KittySYT]

Can I travel back to fix my grades? 😒

[@KittySYT]

***** It's my grade, not some grape 😭

[@SirConto]

Depends on the model: you totally can do that in the dynamic model; it's basically what it's all about. In the multiverse model you disappear from this universe and get into another one (with a younger version of you already in it) and you can do whatever you like with it. Tip the other kid some answers, beat him up to study, murder him and take his place, etc. In the fixed model you can go to the past, but can't change anything. But you can inadvertently get things the way they currently are. You can go to the past and seduce your teacher, then die of cancer. Later on, that teacher likes a kid in his class because he somehow reminds her of that romance. She gives him higher grades than he deserves. The kid comes to like her in part because of that treatment, but finds a romance impossible. So when he grows up, he builds a time machine and goes into the past to meet that teacher being his age. He has a romance with her, then dies of cancer. He thereby fixed his grades, making them A instead of B-.

[@KittySYT]

Conto OMG, i fell asleep reading your message... :(

[@SirConto]

Skowedey Nah, I just suck at writing and need to work on it I guess. To be fair if he didn't mention it maybe I myself wouldn't notice how boring what I wrote is.

[@robertjenkins6132]

First things first. Can you build a time machine?

[@saharazizkhani3737]

a GOT video? Instant subscribe !!!

[@arsen200998]

Which type of time travel is in 11.22.63?

[@Birdie518]

It has the properties of both type 1 and type 3. Type 1: Making changes in the past (eg carving your name in a tree) to create a different present is possible. Type 3: Making BIG changes in the past (eg saving JFK) to create a different present is really difficult and results in the past "fighting back"

[@kevinpfeiffer8034]

The past is obdurate.

[@febrinamillenianda9158]

why the night king is after bran? pls answer i want to hear your theories.. bc i still dont understand. bran doesn't know that the night king will be killed by arya?

[@_Mayibongwe]

He actually did. Him giving Arya that dagger was no coincidence.

[@i.m.7784]

best explanation so far, great job.

[@ezequieliglesias9281]

i think terminator fits in the latter theory of tiem travel, the closed one, not the multiverse one. If skynet didnt sed the first terminator back, humanity wouldn have been able to create skynet in the first place. A closed loop.

[@BhaveshSharma7]

does that mean Bran cannot die until he finishes all the work of the time travel? As if he died before taking hold of hodor's mind and then there will be no hodor in the first place. Is this a paradox?

[@oniondesu9633]

there are no paradoxes in a fixed timeline, he didnt die before creating hodor full stop, no ifs.

[@_Mayibongwe]

​@@oniondesu9633There are in fact paradoxes in fixed timelines. Look up the Bootstrap Paradox. It's a special kind of loop where the past cannot exist without the future, and said future cannot exist without that particular past. So in essence, neither of the events precede the other as they both cannot exist without one another. Bran needs his powers in order to manipulate Hodor. But at the same time, he also needs manipulated Hodor in order to get those powers in the first place. You cannot determine which of the two occurs first

[@JoshuaFagan]

That was surprisingly well-done. Impressive.

[@escapefromtibet2530]

Hold the door. Try not to cry. Lie down. Cry alot

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

it was his destiny, at least he lived life that he can be proud of

[@ConnectedSims23]

So something in the future affects something in the past that ends up happening in the future?

[@brandonn.1275]

ConnectedSims23 and that's how quantum states work...

[@_Mayibongwe]

Yes, what we witnessed was the Bootstrap Paradox. What happened in the past was affected by the future. But that same future would not exist if the aforementioned past did not occur. Both events are a direct outcome of the other. Therefore creating a loop without an origin.

[@BlakeOlson1980]

What about the movie "Time Lapse"? I've been trying to wrap my head around it and the more I think about it, the less it makes sence.

[@theocean1973]

Who else thinks the original Three Eyed Raven is Bran as an old man, stuck in some kind of time loop?

[@RaneyDay]

They gave me a 30 second scary purge ad that i couldn't skip! I feel like that's some kind of torture lol

[@huguespayens14]

Wait if what you're saying is true, that Bran has been creating the events that have occured in GoT till now. Then how would the first time line have been triggered? Timeline 1: ------------------------------------------------x(existence of Bran 1) Timeline 2: x(Bran 1 effects timeline 2)----------------------x(existence of Bran 2) and so on.... What I'm saying is Timeline 1 could've never been changed since Bran didn't exist, because it was the first timeline. It just doesn't make sense.

[@huguespayens14]

+Shinji Ikari it can't be just one timeline if (Bran the builder) is truly Bran from the future. Then there would have to be two of them. One that changed past events (Bran the builder) and (Present Bran).

[@PaulBurke]

Does this contain spoilers for people who are up to date with the show?

[@dvgilg]

Not really, however he does mention a couple of fan theories in the last 30s.

[@CM-qb7re]

Yeah it does.

[@youtoob0217]

no, it does not. unless you consider fan theories to be spoilers (they're not)

[@CM-qb7re]

2:11 "When Bran is watching a version of his 'late' father." 2:40 Hodor How are these not spoilers to someone who hasn't seen the show?

[@youtoob0217]

the qualifier is "for people who are up to date with the show" how can someone who hasn't seen the show be up to date with the show?

[@Nathanielwarjri]

I really needed this. Thank you.

[@abhishneupane98]

after the s8 , it turns out , you guys were so so right !

[@novikargono670]

But in harry potter prizoner of azkaban harry can time travel and safe buckbeak who has been dead in the past? How is that a closed loop?

[@FuZZyDicE222]

Novi Kargono I'm very late to this reply, but Buckbeak never died. The executioner and Fudge couldn't find him after talking with Hagrid and Dumbledore because future Harry and future Hermione had already released him while they were talking inside Hagrid's hut. The film is only cut for it to appear that an execution occurred, but in reality a giant axe just hit a pumpkin.

[@MrSecretMansion]

The thing is in back to the future they use a dynamic timeline but in the third or second one (cant remember) Doc Brown states that there are different multiverses and explains what that is to the audience.

[@jesusnthedaisychain]

I'm gonna have to go ahead and stop you right there. Repeat after me, "It's just a show. I should really just relax." Not everything requires some real-world explanation. How do the Heisenberg Compensators work? Very well, thank you!

[@pedrozajnr7475]

so Bran must have warned the Mad King about how bad the last season was going to be

[@avery_estelle]

Awesome explanation

[@bestboy897]

this is so well explained

[@Digdarshann]

RIP Hodor😭 I really cried 😢

[@eddominates]

excellent video, I think you're totally right about bran being the cause of just about all of the major events in Show!GoT. As for the book series ... well, that remains to be seen. I'm sure it will end up being similar, but george will end up tweaking it a bit, if his past tendencies are any indication.

[@equalitystateofmind5412]

Gotta love that bootstrap paradox. I liked the Doctor's explanation better.

[@mart9898]

I don't think R.R. Martin put that much thought in how this time travel stuff will work out. He usually just wings it. This is overkill.

[@TheJR7360]

oh he has. Check out his other works. If you're interested, look up Preston Jacobs. This youtuber has great content related to A song of ice and fire and Georges other works. George has been thinking about this stuff for over twenty years, he's got it figured out.

[@oWildChildo]

He describes it a bit differently, but he definitely has put a lot of thought into it. Bran has warged into a Weirwood and seeing the world through its eyes. This quote from the books might help. "Certain moths live their whole lives in a day, yet to them that little span of time must seem as long as years and decades do to us. An oak may live three hundred years, a redwood tree three thousand. A Weirwood will live forever if left undisturbed. To them seasons pass in the flutter of a moth’s wing, and past, present, and future are one."

[@mart9898]

Wild Child You may have a point.

[@mahrukhkhan4191]

Who agrees with the last line after watching the last episode of Game of Thrones?

[@marusero25]

So, if Bran did go indeed to the past to prevent the creation of the white walkers and ends up creating them it all aligns with your explanation however, why would the first Bran go back in time to begin with if there were no white walkers?

[@sonjathomas6084]

Something to do with the first men, and the children of the forrest. Didn't they create them to save them from the first men?

[@mustachiolove7081]

I expected much less when i saw this was a Vox vid, well done for once

[@BabyStarTVLearning]

Awesome video, now I can't wait to watch Sunday with this new perspective. Now my mind is racing :-)

[@wh2912]

I do like the idea that Bran somehow plants the idea to build the wall as he has seen what the White Walkers can do

[@KushiJishi]

I think you are wrong on two occasions. First the movie states: "The ink is dropping" and not "The ink is dry". Just watch the teaser from Game of Thrones. That would then leave room for changes in time. Second: Explain how Bran can worg into Hodor in the present while his eyes are white and he is in the past with bloodraven. He is challenged to worg into Hodor while he observes Willis. While looking at Willis he becomes input from the present, he hears the scream: "We are all going to die. Worg into Hodor, know!". Somehow Willis can sense Bran. Bran panics, he looks around, does not know what to do. He looks intensely at Willis. Then Willis becomes white eyes, a sign that Bran worged into him. But still Bran's eyes are not white in the past. Why does Willis panic? Because Bran transfers his anxiety from the screams he hears inside his brain inside the consciousness of Willis. But we never see Bran worging into Willis.

[@arpitbharti6245]

really well explained

[@AntoineBandele]

Squandered potential here.

[@GregHamblin]

some great background music. Where did you get it?

[@ussenterncc1701e]

Twilight Zone (I think, may have been the Outer Limits) had a cool take on the fixed timeline. A traveler went back and killed Hitler as an infant, the wet nurse then just kidnapped a different baby to fool the parents, and that baby became the Hitler history knows.

[@harshaunknown]

Awesome explanation, thank you

[@BernardoSutter]

You forgot one important thing though: Bran can still cause new things to happen. We could see something crazy happen out of nowhere and see it being caused by Bran many episodes later.

[@jacobje00]

Does this video contain spoilers for season 6?

[@RavenStorm332]

The Star Trek show has touched on this and referred as the "Pre-Destination Paradox" meaning that you can travel back in time unless you've already been there to do so already

[@JoseGranny]

Wow, I hadn't put the two together; that Bran actually created Hodor by mind effing him so bad. I wonder if Hodor will become a wite walker now.

[@WyshMast3r]

So you are saying that the things Bran can do to affect the past will result in having the present that he lived/is living. However this isn't true because if Bran would not have affected Hodor from the past but just stick at controlling Hodor from present then there would have not been a link between Past Hodor and Present Hodor and as a result there were no brain damage to Wilis so no Hodor in the Present. For your theory to be true : if Bran doesn't create Hodor, someone else has to create him or something needs to be happening so that Wilis receives that brain damage and becomes Hodor AND this also has to not affect the past in any other way/has to affect the past the same way Bran would have done -which seems impossible because someone/something transformed Wilis into Hodor in the first place and because Bran went into the past and did the job for that person/event the present should be affected. So the GoT timeline seems more like a fixed one where the time walker MUST affect the past as he is doing to create the present from where he comes and this kinda implies that the time walkers already comes from an altered present. However the scene where Bran calls Ned suggests that he can change the past in any way. What Raven said "the past is already written......" is probably false and was meant to make bran not change the past. You should also keep in mind that on the Hodor scene the raven is influencing Bran to affect the past as he did (as it should have been) so Hodor is created and Bran's actions lead to the present he is living. Either way, your theory is wrong.

[@ilmedvedCG]

Very cool explanation, thx! ^^