LEGENDARY POTENTIAL vs RUNES OF ASCENDANCE | Last Epoch 1.0

[@thorstenwinter5371]

Dude your videos are great. Everytime I think "oh we would need to test that theory with a larger sample size" YOU come along with a video. Thank You. Keep up the great work

[@FrozenSentinel]

Thank you, I appreciate that :) These do take a while to put together but I think the end result is worth it!

[@alexossan2829]

Thank you! I guess this also fits well with how the CoF perk for Ascendance is obtainable at rank 2. They probably really just wanted Ascendance to be useful in the early end-game, and then we should move on to pushing corruption for LP uniques.

[@FrozenSentinel]

yup seems like it

[@raymondwang6272]

Another infomative video as always, great job!! Lets go super nerdy power!!

[@AdamL_18]

Underated channel. So much valuable information. Keep up the great content !

[@Markerus]

Your in-depth videos are the best, pls don't stop!

[@AnilKumardoc]

I've used Rune of Ascendance on commonly found build defining items on new characters. Outside of that, never bothered to test them being beyond like 100 uses

[@MattDavie]

"Handful of rings, no pun intended" Oh, stop it.

[@FrozenSentinel]

Can't help myself

[@leog1676]

“I am back with some uniques and carpal tunnel” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@filo1819]

I really like those tests ! The runes are much worse than I hoped, still useful to target the rare items but still pretty bad. thx for taking the time to do it :)

[@FrozenSentinel]

Yea perhaps useful if you switch builds and want starter gear fast. Or if you manage to get a mountain of them from lightless using MG then before going CoF, otherwise they aren't great.

[@darkneoyoyo]

Seeing these figures, I now understand how lucky I was to get a 4LP armor piece (for Acolyte class) from Runes of Ascendence. I don't rmb at what rank I was at that time, but yea I'm in CoF faction. Thanks for all great vids bro, and please keep doing what you are doing!

[@FrozenSentinel]

Safe to say you were pretty lucky, haha!

[@darkneoyoyo]

@@FrozenSentinel haha, thanks man, still, I have no use of that armor for now (I main a Rune master and play a build pretty much similar to yours).

[@spicorr2]

Great test! Looking forward to the next one

[@PerGamingGames]

Loving this

[@CopenorMcbrokeleg]

Been trying Runes of Ascendance, my own results basically conclude that it's not worth it if you're trying to get LP uniques. Totally anecdotal but for me it feels like most of the uniques even get no LP whatsoever (excluding weaver's will uniques obviously). Thanks for going through the effort with it and putting results on a spreadsheet though. Was hoping the runes can be used even with a tiny chance to get boss only uniques, but it seems that isn't the case.

[@FrozenSentinel]

Ascendance cannot drop boss exclusives unfortunately

[@CopenorMcbrokeleg]

@@FrozenSentinel That's unfortunate. I was hoping it'd be something since it's already so limited in trying to target farm boss specific uniques as is.

[@FrozenSentinel]

Yea, gotta farm those the hard way lol

[@andrzejat6163]

Thank you! This helps a lot

[@Hofodikfo]

Another fantastic video Frozen. Doing gods work. I made a comment on your previous video. Curious if higher corruption equals more T7 Affixes witg item drops. I know its proven the Unique/LP rate increase is minimal based on your previous findings. Regardless, always love your data sets.

[@FrozenSentinel]

This is definitely something I want to look at in the future!

[@mikkj9331]

oh yeah great idea

[@GoaGoa69]

Bros doing gods work. Thx ✌️

[@wearetwitternow]

MG here 13/256 rings had 1LP and had a 2 LP hollow finger. oh and 0 red rings,

[@FrozenSentinel]

Thank you for sharing!!! That aligns with my pre 1.0 testing and seems to indicate that rune of ascendance DOES benefit from the 2X CoF LP chance.

[@nowrist]

science doesn't lie

[@artemrusskikh2796]

Thank you for a nice video, you have done a good research :)

[@walterobi535]

Good content... Keep up the good work

[@dustythurman5426]

Seems like they would be best for something build defining, like Jelkhor's Daggers or Cleaver Solution, so that you can actually play the build to farm for better items to improve the build.

[@FrozenSentinel]

Yea exactly

[@critzngritz]

Thank you for the maths!

[@heyguyslolGAMING]

Really appreciate your work on this. Perhaps I'm missing something but my understanding is that each item has its own value roll to roll LP. So I'm wondering if you happen to roll a batch of items as you have and just so happen to get more LP from low quality items doesn't that variable kinda throw a monkey wrench into your testing?

[@FrozenSentinel]

You are correct, lower LP level items roll higher LP more often, I controlled for this by giving different items a different "weighting" based on their LP level formula, I went over the math of how I did this in this video; kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWPXpmCaiLiKg9E

[@heyguyslolGAMING]

@@FrozenSentinel Great job, apologize for my oversite. I did a test last night; I rolled about 250 chest w/ ascendance in hopes for a upgrade LP2 Exsanguinous. Long story short I got about 25 out of the 300. I got 1 LP3 about 10 LP2 and the rest 13 LP1 or no LP. Sadly the LP3 was a bad roll but I got an upgrade w/ one of the LP2's so I was happy. Very surprised that I got an LP3 as I didn't think that was possible but then I saw your vid. Thx again

[@skelious]

Great work ty for the information.

[@shouliest]

I tried to get a Bleeding Heart amulet with runes of ascendance and did not go so well.. I must've used about 20 runes.

[@Jusedofus]

Great work

[@SHaRKciTY20]

GOAT

[@adiozerg117]

Very surprised with the results of the red ring

[@FrozenSentinel]

Yea that was unexpected, but given the small sample size it could just be typical RNG doing RNG things.

[@Ohtrin]

Do you have a guess on how the 1 LP unique prophecies work? I'm looking for 2 LP+, do I get any benefit from them over the normal unique prophecies?

[@FrozenSentinel]

That's my next project, actually.

[@pchamorn6839]

legend!!!!

[@chrishuang3520]

o man time to just do rings now lol

[@Baneblast]

Another question - do you think CoF LP bonus affects boss exclusive uniques? Im getting like 10 zeroLP hearts of ukeiros for 1 with LP, and i wonder if it's me not being very lucky or CoF bonus is useless here

[@FrozenSentinel]

I'm almost certain that it does, I've done many dragons so far and seems like 1LP fairly often

[@Baneblast]

Oh, that sounds very promising, thank you man ❤️

[@j45002]

What did you mean at 6:04 about having a bunch of favor and using it on runes of ascendance. Nvm i see now

[@spicorr2]

3 red rings from 214 is closer to 1% rate than the 0.1% rate that tunklab suggests. Opinions on that? Just lucky? Huge difference in expected outcome when tunklab would say you should get 1 in 1000. I'm thinking of doing a ravenous void attempt with roa which has the same roa rate of 0.1%

[@FrozenSentinel]

Sample size is small, weird stuff happens, hard to say. From running many many prophecies and dropping thousands of unique rings I didn't get an unusual rate of Red Ring, I don't know if Ascendance has any weird stuff going on but it's hard to say.

[@enfxacademychile]

Red Ring of Atlaria can be obtained with ancestry rune? And if so, what ring is it made with?

[@FrozenSentinel]

Yes it can, Ring type doesn't matter

[@erpagan]

Thanks for the spreadsheet porn. You're the best.

[@Spanner1971B]

I think its possible Ascendance is not affected by COF 6, and the rate is halved (multiplier of 0.5) for LP.

[@FrozenSentinel]

You could be right, but based on my pre 1.0 results and results I've seen from others, it seems unlikely I would have gotten that much LP if it wasn't affected by CoF Rank 6.

[@johnturrill1345]

Red rings from ascendence? So you got 3/200, how similar is that to what you’ve seen in game? I’ve been housing ring prophecies for a while now and still haven’t seen one 😬

[@FrozenSentinel]

WAY higher, before that I had seen 4 drops (duplicated by rank 10 so 8 total) in thousands of rings. But I don't think that has anything to do with ascendance and just luck with a small-ish sample. Possible ascendance has some bonus to rarity, but not sure.

[@sheldonballantyne6605]

I assume doing runes of ascendance is not effected by using them in a high corruption echo vs base

[@FrozenSentinel]

It shouldn't be

[@majmunmajmun5718]

Its been 400 hrs for me without seeing a single red ring

[@FrozenSentinel]

Best bet is prophecies for CoF, or buying them as MG.

[@Kaiserin669]

I guess I got lucky when I got my 2LP dagger for my marksman

[@FrozenSentinel]

yes!

[@duanecrouch8526]

How were these rings found? I may have had better luck with gambled rings vs rings found. Also there's a gold gamble guy in End Of Time I think.

[@FrozenSentinel]

Random drops in monoliths mostly, it shouldn't make a difference though, as far as I know there is no internal "marker" that indicates where something dropped once you have it

[@JoshuaJSpringer]

What would you recommend using these for in endgame then? Seem almost like a waste of time.

[@FrozenSentinel]

Honestly the time it took me to do all them I probably would have gotten better value just farming lol. Just dump them all towards some very high rarity unique you want, but don't expect LP on.

[@marcomeinhof5393]

Save them for when you create a MG character, you can get some money from that with whatever is the most expensive 0-1 LP which you can get from the rune

[@dustythurman5426]

Probably not an end-game item, other than something strong enough that even without LP it's better than the alternative. Seems to me, they were likely intended as an early-endgame boost for build defining items. Something like Jelkhor's Daggers where the build just doesn't work without them. Gives you the opportunity to actually play the build to farm for the build.

[@ericvautherot1285]

I don't think the penalty is from the rune, SET items on the potential list - always give you zero, you should remove them from the calculation. Maybe call it deadroll chance %.

[@FrozenSentinel]

I did not include set items or weaver items in the lp chance calculations, only the uniques

[@kiergantyrloc6777]

A question on the weaver's rings... does the level of the ring you use the rune on determine the amount of weaver's will upgrades you get?

[@FrozenSentinel]

Doesn't seem to matter, at least I didn't see any indicator of it making a difference

[@arzanpatel]

Hey bro just wanted to flag an issue with KZbin. I liked the video but when i went to subscribe it wouldnt let me because I'm already subscribed. Lowkey bs by KZbin here. This is worth a double.

[@FrozenSentinel]

Haha