Timelost Fatebringer VS Adept Palindrome: God Roll Comparison

[@CastleContent]

30 MINUTES LET ME MAKE A SANDWICH BABY

[@doinoyou]

CAN I HAVE ONE?!

[@flotin7992]

Did you actually?

[@ManMythLemon]

The first time bungie has added 2 weapons that are almost perfectly balanced with each other

[@inspirationalflight1638]

What about palindrome/eyasluna

[@Vaultyboi22]

@@inspirationalflight1638 eyasluna was just better. Pali was easier to get that's the only reason it was so popular.

[@jpgduff]

O.G. Thorn and Last Word.

[@smackzy.6513]

@@jpgduff Fr

[@zachsuarez1830]

@@jpgduff I wouldnt count that, both were insanely broken which doesn’t mean they are balanced with eachother

[@emilioguajardo9071]

Castle sent me ;) this production value is nuts though and your recommendations and reasons for them are extremely well laid out. Excellent video, going to rethink opening shot being the godroll on my timelost fatebringer!

[@Gjerda]

Ayy thanks so much! Welcome to the channel :)

[@Psyshimmer]

Going through the comments, I always notice that well thought out, rationale-heavy videos seem to bring out respectful debate and discussion amongst the commenters. Almost like it removes the toxic folks or convinces them to behave otherwise, lol

[@Gjerda]

Hahaha this is so true, there’s still some knuckleheads out there, but far fewer in long videos which is great! Allows the rest of us to enjoy the discussion

[@pvpeet9374]

I got recommended here by Castle and I must say: he didn’t lay about the quality of the content. Very nice indeed! Although I disagree on some of the points (e.g. that tac mag makes it not a god roll or the extended barrel discussion) because I value things differently here on console, yet it was an excellent point of reference! Edit: rewatched it for the handeling part. Very interesting indeed. Maybe I have to go back on the extended barrel thing. Got to get me a new TLFB after all. Yet, I am gonna miss the 100 recoil direction.

[@Gjerda]

Thanks for stopping by! And yeah that is totally fair, I should’ve mentioned I am on PC so that definitely affects my opinion, and higher stability/better recoil direction might be the best play for console/controller. I only switched to MnK ~year ago so I can definitely relate to my controller brothers out there

[@loramarthalas8777]

Great video. Liked and subscribed. But - there is one thing you overlooked. A lot of people have been saying that Fatebringer feels off. It’s harder to hit headshots with it. There was speculation that it had a strange recoil pattern or that EP did something weird to hit boxes , but that clearly isn’t the case. In fact, the reason why Fatebringer feels bad for some people is the gun model itself. It has a prominent laser sight on the left side. Whenever you fire, the laser sight rises and blocks your line of sight to the target. It makes it much harder to track targets and land follow up shots. Not a deal breaker, but certainly a disadvantage. It’s really noticeable for me. O love Fatebringer, but it feels worse than Austringer or Pali for this reason.

[@Gjerda]

Good point, I should’ve spent a bit more time on that because it is certainly an issue for a lot of people in the community. And thank you so much for the sub!

[@rivermahugh4575]

I noticed this as well when I first started using this gun but after using a little and getting some better rolls, it is a non issue. But definitely a learning curve.

[@aeropul2627]

Great video! Very informative even to an experienced player. Never heard someone say “handling is your TTK” but it’s true for many engagements

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much!

[@kxbp8222]

swap speed caps out at 24 frames or is it 26? either way most weapons can get very close to this with double dexterity and like one handling perk like quick draw quick charge threat detector etc, but with base 50 handling double quick access double dexterity any two weapons can get 32 frames thats stow and ready the difference between 24 and 32 in time is 0.266, so 0.8 and 1.033 1/5 of a second still very impactful considering a 150 was only .07 faster than a 140 and that mattered a-lot two weapons at 100 handling is 26 frames after a certain point adding more handling when you have modifiers becomes a waste really still helps with ads but even that gets boosted with targeting mods. with just double dex the ideal handling id say would be 80 if one weapon had less than 80 put double dex on that gun but if they both 80 put one on each. however with double quick access you can go 70 on both and get 26 27 frames and if you have a handling perk just put the handling the perk gives you somewhere else quick charge gives a weapon 25 or 30 handling put the extra points in range stability. modifiers are better the less handling-you have the more effective they are.

[@jmcdermott53]

I got a Timelost last week with hammer forged, accurized, killing wind and eye of the storm with stability mw. I was a bit disappointed at first but glad I saw this video and it feels really good in the crucible.

[@Gjerda]

Very nice! That sounds godly!!

[@ConeXGaming1]

This video was expert level in terms of editing, voice quality (you could definitely do voice acting if you want to) and information. Everything was laid out so perfectly. Subscription well earned

[@Gjerda]

Wow dang thank you so much! I really appreciate it. Have a great day man!

[@ConeXGaming1]

@@Gjerda Same to you!

[@henrikwilhelmpatton616]

Hey man, not sure why I’m just now finding your channel, but I really enjoy your chill vibes. Keep up the good stuff

[@Gjerda]

Thank you :) I will

[@hamzehalkeddeh1788]

Great comparison! The effort you've put into making this video is really noticable! Looking forward to seeing more and more comparison videos :)

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much! :D right on, I will definitely do more in the future once two items like this naturally come head to head again

[@unkkit151]

Listened to just the Fatebringer section and realized you are literally one of the most knowledgeable people of Destiny 2. So many truths I’ve seen scattered throughout random Reddit threads. Subbed and thank you!

[@Gjerda]

Dang thank you so much! Appreciate it

[@colinwilliams3459]

Hello Gjerda! Please do a video about exotic hand cannons! That would be amazing! After watching this review it makes every other one I’ve seen look so dry and shallow. Would love to see a deep dive into more weapons. Thanks!

[@Gjerda]

Hi! Well thanks so much and that is a good idea, I think I will do more head to head comparisons like this, it was pretty fun and a lot of people liked it :)

[@deekay2899]

This is top tier content. Great stuff dude. Also, adept palindrome doesn’t guarantee one for all on the drop. That’s just the curated roll. The only think guaranteed is bottomless grief for all nightfall weapons, just like celerity for trials weapons. Just thought I’d mention it for people expecting their palindromes to drop with two guaranteed perks like time lost weapons even though I know no one cares about one for all in pvp

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much! And yes good point, I didn’t realize that due to d2gunsmith but fortunately OFA doesn’t affect its pvp rating. Bottomless grief rules! Thanks for watching :)

[@yoitsdom9678]

i was so excited for this vid and wasn’t disappointed. great content! i was kinda disappointed with my roll till i saw this video. fluted, accurized, explosive, eye of the storm. handling masterwork however☹️

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much! And oh wow I would kill for that role! Guess I gotta go kill templar 500 more times and then atheon too :P

[@klausebenhoch2288]

You did not skip over a single perk/perk combo. You did an AMAZING job being objective with stat combos instead of saying “just go range perks” like lots of other videos. Can’t wait to see what you post in the future!

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much! I appreciate it a ton! I will keep it up

[@87agomes]

The only time I got a Palindrome (normal version) I got one with hammer-forged, flared magwell, quickdraw, rangefinder and handling mw. Felt good

[@Gjerda]

Oh wow very nice!

[@bricedeluca6497]

you don't understand how helpful this video was for me when playing trials on cauldron in solo que. I brought my killing wind high impact reserve pali and chaperone and I slew out a ton of rounds. Using what you said about handling and using the right tool for the job kept popping up in my head as I played and it helped a TON. Thank you!

[@Gjerda]

Dang that’s awesome! I love to hear it. Well done dude :)

[@anthesaurus5671]

So much work was put into this! Fantastic job! You're going strait to the top!

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much! :D

[@aidanbuckle5273]

This is some Coolguy level analysis and enjoyablility for sure, and that's the highest award I can bestow on a detailed weapon review vid. Thanks so much, this will encourage me to get my own!

[@Gjerda]

Thanks :)

[@ifyousayso9906]

Excellent points all the way through. I agree that there should be competitive modes much more focused on raw gunplay but there needs to be an emphasis on ability targeted modes in order to "reduce" the skill gap in most modes. That being said, the idea of having a playlist emphasizing duel based, skill based gunplay is intriguing....

[@doinoyou]

fighting lion for life thou

[@myth5265]

You’ve answered the question that keeps me up at night

[@Gjerda]

Well there ya go that’ll be $4.99

[@Gjerda]

Just kidding thanks for watching

[@Gjerda]

At the end of the day, use what you enjoy! But I know I’ll be using a fatebringer once I get the god roll. Spent 400 spoils last night and didn’t get it yet. Also I misspelled “with” in the end screen title card :P

[@christopherjacobs3564]

Following up on my previous comment, while thinking outside the box and notably understanding the vast difference in stability Performance on Console, here we go. Your comment on Opening Shot is understandable and I respect your understanding on BLOOM by the 3rd Shot while showing the IMAGES, however, Opening Shot negates this for the 1st Shot and technically a Weapon with Opening Shot the 2nd Shot follow up Shot is the like the 1st Shot shown on the IMAGE and you won’t see the bloom that is depicted in the 3rd IMAGE until nearly the 4th or 5th Shot. Something to think about.

[@coopercurtis8502]

I got it on my 28th spoils purchase. Keep going and good luck!

[@Gjerda]

Thanks Cooper!

[@Gjerda]

@Christopher Jacobs okay that’s actually very interesting, hadn’t thought about it that way! I would say that probably makes it tied with Eye Of The Storm. Avoiding the bloom for a bit longer is really nice

[@michaelwoodstock1423]

I've spent around 3000 spoils so far and have only gotten 4/5 rolls so far. I will only accept a 5/5 on such an easily farmable gun but I'm starting to go insane.

[@k1ntsugi]

4 months later - I have the exact Fatebringer god roll you recommend and it is CRISPY.

[@Gjerda]

YESSSSS

[@strangelandian]

Over a year later and I do too. The stats are different but still very good.

[@MakinaMakinaMakina]

Great video and insightful My only gripe is the lists of “special pairings” You make out like Fatebringer has the better options, maybe before the shotgun nerf I’d agree But nothing right now compares to Chaperone or Bastion except maybe Lord Of Wolves Eye Of Sol is comparable to all them snipers, as is succession. Riiswalker is arguably the best shotgun in the game that isn’t a slug I don’t know man I think you’ve got it backwards or it’s neck and neck here, it’s not a clear win for Fatebringer

[@Gjerda]

Thank you! Fair enough, I hear ya, that area is tight

[@MakinaMakinaMakina]

@@Gjerda It probably boils down to personal preference on this one definitely, I’ve just been utterly clapped by someone using lord of wolves in comp so now I’m doubting myself haha! Another thing I should have mentioned, how do you feel timelost Fatebringer compares to other kinetic 140s like Ace Of Spades, Thorn etc? Because if you aren’t taking an exotic special like Felwinters, retold take, uzume etc.. You still taking the time lost Fatebringer or are you using an exotic?

[@Gjerda]

I think it is easily as good as the exotic 140s because of its beefy stats, explosive payload and the ability to socket adept icarus. And good question, personally I really like slug shotguns these days and I think duality is extremely good right now, so I I’m pairing my fatebringer with duality

[@MakinaMakinaMakina]

@@Gjerda Thanks man, I really appreciate you taking time to reply to me! I’ve subbed liked and shared your video to my clan! That’s a great point about adept icarus, I hadn’t thought of that. I think a lot of people (me included) see a gold exotic and automatically assume it’s better than all it’s legendary counterparts. Which isn’t always the case is it. That’s fair man, I do love Duality myself, I only started playing in season of the chosen after a long break and I’ve only just bought Duality and I’m currently working through the catalyst. I mainly use my palindrome (Smallbore - ricochet - QuickDraw- rangefinder) and it’s pretty much due to my obsession with Chaperone, but I am looking forward to getting a nice timelost Fatebringer to give that a run out, mine was not had frenzy and osmosis as the extra perks, I need to spend some spoils haha

[@Gjerda]

Sure thing! And thank you so much, wow, very kind. Yeah adept icarus is huge, and best wishes with duality! I find it has very generous in air accuracy, more so than chappy, but after a kill chappy becomes god tier, of course

[@ninjaman7123]

I was watching and just checked ur subs and HOLY you're underrated as hell! Thought you were a lot bigger because the quality of the video was insane

[@Gjerda]

Hahaha thank you so much! Yeah hopefully we can grow a bit here lol

[@Duva_]

I love this type of content. This and the blink video are my 2 favorite d2 videos in the last months

[@Gjerda]

Thanks :)

[@brockkirschenmann9711]

Dang that was long, but 1.5 speed for the win. However the way you presented the content was top shelf my friend, you deserve way more subs. Fantastic content great way to spend my lunch

[@Gjerda]

Thank you very much!

[@SteelKreel]

Now I’m more happy about my Eye of the Storm roll 😃

[@Gjerda]

Nice :)

[@abdiabdullahi8750]

Holy smokes this video was amazing. Found it by complete chance too. I love the way you look at the game in an interesting perspective.

[@Gjerda]

Yo thank you so much, awesome to hear!

[@drop_pod_ham8285]

So refreshing to see someone suggest other perks than range. Very useful tips and a fantastic vid. well done

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much! Yeah imo range is the most overrated stat on any gun

[@Racc_of_House_Oon]

I only subscribed yesterday, this is the third video of yours I've seen. Your method of explaining and comparing is clear and concise. You sir, have just become my favorite technical D2 KZbinr

[@Gjerda]

Wow thank you so much, that’s awesome! I appreciate it a ton 🙏

[@talencoppernoll8789]

This was one of, if not, THE BEST and most well put-together god roll video I’ve seen on KZbin. The editing was insanely well done and all the graphics/charts were very well made and helped tremendously. I look forward to future videos and definitely subscribing.

[@Gjerda]

Dang thank you so much! That is so great to hear, and I will keep it up 🙏

[@TenBackWI]

The production value and research of this video is the real S+ tier thing here! Great video! Definitely just subbed!!!

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much!

[@xgamez5611]

Love the style and editing of this video. This is the sort of content I was looking for regarding Destiny 2, and I can't believe I'm just now discovering this channel. I loved this vid, and hope many more like this (Hopefully for PvE as well) come out in the future. Excellent in-depth work.

[@Gjerda]

Wow thank you so much that is really wonderful to hear! I will keep it up. Not quite sure what to do next, but it’ll definitely be in my style like this one.

[@darkslayer1391]

Managed to get fullbore accurized rounds killclip with stability mw on my first and only timelost fate and I gotta say, it feels really crispy once you get used to it. Probably my favorite in slot kinetic hc at the moment.

[@thetimewornspire3742]

Not many people seem to realize outlaw is also pretty good on palindrome. I'd even go as far to say it's better than killing wind because of how slow the palindrome reload speed is and how small of a magazine it has.

[@kky7346]

You must also remember that hand cannon reloaders exist on arm pieces which can offer a valuable perk slot open such as killing wind like you mentioned.

[@Gjerda]

For sure, both good points from each of you!

[@Sooshhee]

Fantastic video, Looking forward to your other content!

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much! I will do another video soon but I think not til the new season drops :)

[@Yajiro8]

Adept Palindrome: Hammerforged Rifling / Ricochet Rounds / Quickdraw / Rangefinder / Reload MW (RIP) Timelost Fatebringer: Polygonal Rifling / Accurized Rounds / Rewind Rounds (obviously running EP) / Eye of the Storm / Handling MW Neither are perfect godrolls but probably the best RNGesus is going to do for me for awhile. I think they are both only missing a meter or so in optimal range so could be worse. Great comparison video by the way.

[@Gjerda]

Oh those are very nice! Good stuff. I’m sure they will feel awesome. And thank you :)

[@basg7489]

Really enjoyed the vid thanks! I’m sure you spent ages on this so well done

[@Gjerda]

I did haha, thank you!

[@s-Milox]

Superb work, you’ve earned a new sub and I shared with all my player base.

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much! Appreciate it 🙏

[@MrDevillive]

“Having the right tool at the right time.” I’m enlightened 👏.

[@Gjerda]

awesome!

[@voexz]

just got my timelost fatebringer with opening shot 😳

[@dablazingnik2437]

When Gjerd starts talking about handling it sounds like he’s doing a cult chant

[@iKentine]

My man put more research into this video than I put into some of my college level research papers... 10/10

[@Gjerda]

Thanks!

[@Captain_McFuzy]

Why am I curious on the shader used on palindrome in the thumb nail 😂 great video, new sub

[@atrx_]

very in depth look at 2 of the best hand cannons currently 140 have always been a favorite of mine good video

[@Gjerda]

Thanks buddy!

[@sarnia7559]

Haha just started watching this after 3 days soloing Lake of Shadows for a Palindrome. Finally got a roll I’m happy with and it’s got 67 stability. I think you’ve said 68 is the minimum needed at least 5 times so far. Just got to the handling part and happier because mines got 78…phew.

[@BThree117]

My best roll Pali was actually hammer forged, flared magwell, quickdraw, and high impact reserves with a range masterwork. Can’t lie, I love it. 😁

[@Gjerda]

Oooo very nice

[@pathz5558]

What a small world! I matched you the other day in rumble and now here I am finding this video. New sub from me, fantastic vid and mark my words your content is gonna blow up

[@Gjerda]

Oh hello! That’s awesome, small world. Thank you so much :)

[@Bopperv]

Also, this is the best comment section ever.. everyone has good points and is respecting everyone else's opinion

[@TheShadowPhoenix]

This has been on the watch list for a while now and I’m so disappointed in myself for making it wait so long. This is SUPER hepful informaton and, no doubt, took an incredible amount of work. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and experience with us

[@Gjerda]

Thanks for watching! :D sure thing, glad you liked it

[@magicolt53]

quality is INSANE! subbed and notifications on 🥴

[@Gjerda]

Yooo THANK YOU 😤

[@reiiggn5229]

Nice review bro, keep up that quality and good things will come. Good stuff!

[@Gjerda]

Thank you! I will try!

[@kuhakuhdisboard7471]

Kinda late to this vid. When you mentionned CoolGuy founding about 68 stability and then explaining it, so I immediately went to check my fav Vulpecula that I use for PVP and it has... EXCACTLY 68 ! I'm so good a this game damm x) tbh I'm still shocked, no wonders why this roll feels perfect

[@Rinin.]

God, what a video. +1 Sub for the sheer depth and expertise to discuss literally everything that can be considered when comparing these two guns. Thank you for such a fantastic video.

[@Gjerda]

Thank you for the kind words :) have a great day!

[@ravimutum7749]

Excellent video dude 👍👍 I would like to add that with the way ammo economy is in PVP right now I guarantee nobody is having a gunfight with primaries at 30 plus metres

[@Gjerda]

Absolutely haha And thank you!

[@sujo8880]

After watching your vid, i spent 240 spoils and got the exact same best of the best God roll Timelost Fatebringer! I’m so happy

[@Gjerda]

YO NIIIIICE THATS AWESOME. I am so jealous. Have fun!!

[@pirate_duck4985]

So I just need to say the 68 Stability being the minimum/go to Stability stat is a myth, a lie, a Conspiracy! It's actually 69 but no-one could bare the Giggity & naughty comments! I'd very much like to see you add Eyasluna to this conversation! Gunna check if you've updated the comparisons! Eyasluna is GODLY & has so many fantastic rolls for all sorts of builds! I have a Rangefinder x Demo Roll with a Handling MW & I love it! I have one with Fastdraw, AP Rounds, Heating Up, Headstone w/Range MW that I use on Shadebinder & I'm ADDICTED! I Also have arguably my favourite roll... Steadyhand, Ricochet Rounds, Rapid Hit, Snapshot w/Range MW it's just CHEFS KISS haha. Super Stable, Fast Reload, Fast Handling, Great Range it doesn't have any damage perks or perks that work with builds like my Headstone version but my god! It's just consistent & thats something you cannot ignore.

[@IPureHeart]

29:08 That cheer though!! 🤩 🎉 Fantastic & detailed guide!

[@Gjerda]

Haha thanks!

[@FRoSTBiT3z]

Very well done video!! well done man!!

[@Gjerda]

Thanks!

[@K3NKA10]

For me, Pali is the move it’s not adept or anything but it was super easy to get and it goes with what I would consider the best lightweight shotgun, wastelander. You can also run it with chap and eye of sol so for someone who hardly does pve this works great

[@ItsAustinSea]

I'm fairly new to destiny 2 (started playing in september), I got an adept Palindrome with Hammer Forged, Richochet, Quickdraw, and rangefinder with a handling masterwork on my second GM ever the other day and a Timelost fatebringer with extended barrel, appended mag, Explosive payload, and firefly my first try at a master VOG lol both are great but my palindrome is absolutely insane in PVP

[@Gjerda]

Congrats! That’s awesome

[@eri_sister_of_aerial]

My roll of Timelost Fatebringer is Corkscrew/Smallbore, Tactical/Alloy, Explosive Payload/Osmosis, and Kill Clip/Firefly with a Handling MW. Using Corkscrew, Tactical, Explosive, and Kill Clip feels so good. Unfortunately I don't have Adept Icarus yet so my stats are at 59 range, 73 Stability, 73 handling, and 63 Reload. Once I have Adept Icarus, I will have 63 range, 73 Stability, 73 handling, and 63 Reload. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[@SolidGoldHedgehog]

Holy shit dude. I leave civilisation for like a week and your videos hit 40K views? Congrats!

[@Gjerda]

Dude for real hahaha idk what happened, but I guess this is where we are now. Thanks!

[@SolidGoldHedgehog]

@@Gjerda The algorithm smiled on you or something.

[@pierreromme]

a vey nice video ! full of good advice and information ! thanks.

[@SBoverEverything]

I have both and honestly it’s just your preference . Both are amazing hcs

[@patricklachance5952]

I'm a new viewer and this video was stellar. You really come from the 3v3 consistency mindset which I prefer, and make your opinions known on why stuff like stability and handling matter more than just getting fullbore. Really appreciate teh content, and you have definitely earned my sub. P.S. doesn't hurt that this just validates the fact that I was right in thinking my TLFB was a god roll. Literally perk for perk your recommendations. It has been amazing paired with adept uzume.

[@Gjerda]

Wow thank you so much, I really appreciate it! Yep, just saying “get high range” is so unhelpful and unrealistic imo. Congrats on the god roll :) enjoy that! Wish I had it!

[@tierone3895]

Subbed. You’re a real one for this insanely intricate breakdown. Thank you

[@Gjerda]

Thank YOU too!

[@eileen_real]

Here I am sitting with two incredibly solid rolls on these weapons, but no adept icarus. Life is pain... Excellent vid btw!

[@Gjerda]

Aw dang haha, hopefully one day! I think it only drops from the flawless chest :P

[@mdtaranto]

Excellent breakdown. Subbed.

[@Gjerda]

Thanks!

[@LordTonzilla]

So what you're telling me is my one and only Timelost Fatebringer with Hammer Forged, Accurized, Explosive Payload (obviously), Eye of the Storm, and Stability MW(70 total stability) is practically perfect?

[@Gjerda]

I love it, that is beautiful

[@gusm.2886]

Thank you for this very informational comparison, definitely going to be grinding for some better hand cannon roles. I really need to know- are you console, or PC? Because some of the jump shooting in this video is crazy.

[@Gjerda]

Thanks! I am on mouse & keyboard on PC but until about a year ago I was on controller on pc and ps4

[@btwei]

I thought I was going to waste 30 mins on a video but boy was I wrong. I learned quite a bit from this video and now I understand why my fatebringer (eye of the storm, explosive payload, steady rounds, range mw, small bore) feels a lot better dueling vs my pali. Plus it feels a lot better using my found verdict pairing vs the riiswalker pairing.

[@Gjerda]

Ayy that’s awesome to hear! Thanks so much for watching and for the comment. Glad you learned somethin

[@btwei]

@@Gjerda for sure. You earned a new subscription!

[@btwei]

@@Gjerda omg, I went into my vault and found a fluted barrel, accurized, range mw, EP, eye of the storm one. Had no idea I had a 5/5 god roll. I was complaining that I had fluted barrel too, but I stand corrected

[@Gjerda]

Oh my god hahahah I want that so bad. Congratulations! What a fun find!!

[@SwallowMyKoolaid]

This video was fire from beginning to end… thx man!

[@Gjerda]

Ay thank you very much!

[@its_just_deej6034]

Love these kinds of videos. Jus what i was looking for. New sub dude👍🏻

[@Gjerda]

Thank you :)

[@biggusmickus1707]

This was extremely well put together. Thanks for making this!

[@Gjerda]

Well thank you very much, I appreciate it. Happy to!

[@biggusmickus1707]

@@Gjerda btw looking through my vault I found your godroll timelost fb, but a handling me instead of range :(

[@Gjerda]

Ahh dang, well still that is absolutely a godly roll! You should definitely try that in pvp, I would kill for that roll

[@biggusmickus1707]

@@Gjerda thanks! I have another with frenzy, range, accurized with full bore/ corkscrew

[@biggusmickus1707]

and I've been liking that one a lot (I main ophidian storm lock)

[@LukeSirMeister]

Very well spoken. Great video!

[@Gjerda]

Thank you!

[@deanb5912]

Don't sleep on Unrelenting as a perk. I know it is more of a Rumble or Quickplay perk, but it has saved me and helped me win many fights.

[@MxIzmir]

Convinced me not to bother with either, bc of the new kid on the block with Witch Queen.

[@MxIzmir]

lololol aaaaaand i just found your Cantata vid

[@gamez4lyfe187]

I don't know if you'll see this comment months after posting, but I just rolled the 5/5 godroll timelost fatebringer with accurized, fluted, Eye of the storm, range masterwork. It was literally the first one I bought from atheon, and it is amazing with duality in pvp.

[@Gjerda]

That’s awesome hahaha, congrats!! Yeah I have comment notifications on my phone so I get them all, it’s just a matter of I have to check in time before they get bumped down to the bottom of the list and then I can’t access the notification if it goes past 25 and I lose it. But I had to click on this one. Congrats guardian that role is incredible and I envy you and am happy for you!

[@gamez4lyfe187]

@@Gjerda Well you are truly awesome for taking the time to appreciate your commentors, and thank you for the fantastic weapon comparison, really gives a clear idea on what to look for on an HC.

[@puzzledperplexed9889]

Great video. I’ve been waiting for people to address how great fluted barrel is. 70 handling paired with a ready and stow animation decrease (dexterity perks) feels almost like QuickDraw. Although you don’t need fluted if you’re running dragons shadow or ophidians. You’ve earned a sub.

[@Gjerda]

Thanks! Yeah I think handling is pretty underrated

[@lordkira9791]

I still prefer corkscrew that gives little of everything hammer forged isn't worth it since it only gives 0.7 meter one corkscrew even with rangefinder smallbore is very good as well

[@titanicjack6744]

1000% agree on handling. It’s the number 1 stat I chase on all my weapons in both pvp and pve. Followed closely by stability. Ps4 player Handling also affects your ability to get shots off in the air. Easy proof of this is grab a high handling Rocket Launcher and a low handling one then compare taking shots with them after jumping

[@Gjerda]

Yes!! You get it

[@Go_Hogs_Go]

U just straight up make fantastic videos

[@Gjerda]

Thanks!

[@FeverSensei]

This video is incredibly well done 👍 thank you for the in depth break down

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much! Sure thing :)

[@clax5699]

just cant wait for judgment to come back.

[@Gjerda]

I’m so excited

[@jb8770]

great video man you deserve a sub ill be on the look out for your next video keep it up. what website did you use to view the god roll finder in the video?

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much! That was d2gunsmith.com

[@NeonBrocolli]

Very new to pvp after avoiding it for so long and picked up a fatebringer with handling masterwork. Not the best roll but the swap/ready is so crispy that I don't mind getting a tad closer for engagements. Definitely understand now.

[@Dubiousthinking]

I disagree with the no accurized rounds no god roll take. There are other great options in that column that help with consistency as well.

[@Gjerda]

Fair enough, what magazine perks do you prefer?

[@Dubiousthinking]

@@Gjerda I think Tac Mag is great for small buffs everywhere and also steady rounds. Yeah steady takes away range but with EP on you wouldn’t experience that much damage fall off.

[@i1shadow361]

Brilliant video. Subscribed

[@Gjerda]

Thanks!

[@skuirrelTV]

Amazing vid man! Subbed. Keep up the great content

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much! Will do

[@andresalvarado9391]

Absolutely amazing video. Earned a subbed, thanks for insights.

[@Gjerda]

Thank you so much!

[@tcritty2812]

Really hoping that The Comedian will be a 65 rpm kinetic and go with pali.

[@Gjerda]

Oh that would be sick

[@pawnad]

Side note: Corkscrew Rifling + Handling MW is a strong alternative of Flutter Barrel + Range MW (Fatebringer)

[@Gjerda]

Absolutely

[@elysiumcore]

I have a full bore, or hammer forge, range finder, quickdraw in my vault....Oh my 👀

[@DrKrFfXx000000000000]

I value 100 recoil direction a lot in my hand cannons, so my choice of barrel will be radically diferent.

[@Gjerda]

Totally fair

[@Critbuff]

Excellent presentation and argumentation.

[@Gjerda]

Thank you very much

[@Sephlarite]

I was the mk player that thought stability was worthless, I like my smallbore stability masterwork roll a lot

[@Gjerda]

That sounds great!

[@mrwoofmeow17]

Love the video only one thing wrong about it and that is Pali doesn’t drop with 2 perks in column 4.

[@Gjerda]

Thanks! And yeahh realized that too late unfortunately, my b