Timesuck | Mormonism: The Good, The Bad, and The FLDS

[@erikruiz8222]

🎶 This was the tale of Joseph Smith, DUM-DUM-DUM-DUM-DUM! 🎶

[@1sthander373]

"They actually believe this"

[@chadwickautry5739]

Southpark is great

[@groverkeil4483]

Nimrod is pleased

[@pebblebrookbooks4852]

Lucy Harris smart smart smart...

[@Wombat_Astronaut]

I work in IT in Salt Lake City, I’m the only non-Mormon at my job. Funny thing they don’t drink coffee or tea because in the scripture it says something along the lines of “hot drinks” being bad, so instead they drink absurd amounts of Energy drinks like redbull/monster as a loophole

[@demetriusprice5890]

If there's one thing we're good at its loopholes

[@cameronpina3181]

Caffeine is the sin really, hot beverages is not the thing.

[@TizzleT]

Yup. They still drink hot chocolate And caffeine free coke.

[@jkester46]

I already refer to this podcast as the superior podcast. The one true podcast.

[@doghairsticker]

Joseph Kester MOTHER

[@Scott-Free-123]

Im a space lizard, but last podcast on the left did a way better job

[@jkester46]

@@Scott-Free-123 thats awesone you're a space lizard too. Dan has really built a wonderful community. And everyone has there own opinion. Its great you found another enjoyable podcast. We live in great times haha. In the future though scott, please keep blasphemy to yourself or i will show you the meaning of pain. Showbiz!!

[@mjmconstructionmatrixinspe3569]

I have a step brother that became a Monk...he was anything but as a kid growing up, then he developed a brain tumor and this changed everything. Greek Orthodoxy is pretty strict and all communication is monitored and only through the church. Glad he found his passion I suppose and that he survived the tumor.

[@ryankraus4475]

Being an ex mormon...I am so freaking excited for this one!

[@thatbobjamin]

Ryan Kraus same, I was proud of how unbiased he was in lots of his other research so I’m stoked to hear what he’s got here

[@kevinmcdonald951]

@@thatbobjamin No one cares.

[@thormusicbass]

​@@kevinmcdonald951 It took 3 and a half years, but you did. 🖤

[@michaeldaniel73]

@@kevinmcdonald951I care 😊

[@cincylitigator4704]

What an amazing program. I listened to the whole thing tearing up during the part about treatment of women by the FLDS. Just got back from SLC where I spent most of the say in their history museum and conference center. Rather hilarious that such extravagance is based on a completely ahistorical story. I have also read at least two books on mormon history in a addition to peaking at the book of mormon while at a Marriott. I did not hear any inaccuracies in this program. I am sure this strenuous effort at truth telling may help a bunch of people caught in a web of confusion.

[@j_iris]

Well done! Totally accurate - even included some things I didn't know as someone who's left the church! (I swear to god the longer you're out, the more you learn about it, I know more about the church now than I did when I was in it!) I thought I knew it all until I watched this, there was a handful of things I didn't know. So that's cool! The only thing I disagree on is the church not being a cult today. If you look at the BITE Model (a model used to determine if something is a cult), Mormonism checks all the boxes. Is it as extreme as other cults? Definitely not...but it still fits. Still a great video. Good job, Dan, and thanks for covering this!

[@Tina06019]

We are gonna have one heck of party in the Telestial Kingdom. See you all there!

[@ConstantCompanion]

I had a good friend who was Mormon. I come from a tradition that encourages you to inspect your faith. You ask questions. You work it out. To my utter shock, I found out that she didn't have a clue as to what she "believed" she was a direct descendant of Brigham Young. I started to ask questions. She said, you need to ask the bishop about that. She didn't know. I was stunned. You're going to dedicate your life to something that you don't know anything about? Having said that, though I came from a different tradition than her, we got along very well and we shared the same values. We went to a number of their celebrations and we socialized. She was very smart. Good grades in school with degrees. They all were. Despite the fact that she didn't have any idea what she believed, her life reflected a high quality of standard that showed in their everyday life. It took me awhile but eventually I thought, well? Maybe I don't understand how you get there, but proof is in the pudding. It worked. If it wasn't for the crazy stuff, I would probably be a Mormon. But then again, my face was founded by a walkie fruitcake named Aimee Semple McPherson. They call her sister. I call her wacked-out.

[@buwan356]

I was born and raised Mormon. Went on a full time/honorable mission and was later married in the Mormon Temple. I began questioning the truth claims of Mormonism while on my mission. After much study of the church history and former doctrines, I left the church and had my name removed from the records of the church in 2012. Best decision I ever made. cesletter.org is a great resource on the truth regarding Mormonism.

[@AndrewWiscombe]

Greer??? You a meatsack too???

[@nomo2746]

The way you say Mormon temple has me believing otherwise.

[@AndrewWiscombe]

@@nomo2746 I know this man. We graduated high school together. We both went on missions the same year. I went to Brasil. I was married in the temple as well. Later divorced over me leaving the church

[@lackytaffy3399]

The evidence up to 5 is really weak. Where does it become strong?

[@RichardThePear]

In the spirit of fairness I would recommend having you look up the FairMormon blogs' point by point rebuttal of the cesletter. You should know that the CESletter is full of trite, old, misleading, and repetitive criticisms. If you decided to believe the claims it means you didn't do your research, which sounds like you just weren't all that interested in it in the first place.

[@MidnightAndLuna]

We just adopted two cats. We were listening to this episode on the way home. They hid when we got to or house but came out when I resumed the episode. So, thank you Dan Cummins for helping with this scary transition for my cats. Lol!

[@lime2107]

The Triple M intro makes me smile every time. 💚💚💚

[@nellytube4537]

I was baptized mormon years ago too, left almost a decade ago now but what a reverent ride;)

[@taurus4205]

Fuck!! I’ve waited sooo long for this one!!!! ALL HAIL NIMROD!!!!! Also James Strang was the only monarch to rule in America. On the glorious Beaver Island in Lake Michigan. Check it out.

[@Nobody-xg2un]

Keep an eye on BYU and the soaking epidemic. Circumventing commandments to avoid commiting a freakin sin Since 1830.

[@kyidyl]

I haven't finished yet, but I've been going through the back catalogue and looking forward to this one. I'm an archaeologist that was raised mormon and yeah...I have Feelings(TM) about it. But as a point of clarification, Outer Darkness is for two people: the 1/3 of the host of heaven that originally fell with Satan, and people who see hard physical evidence of God (like angels, Jesus, etc.) And then deny that God is real or continue to sin on purpose. And they don't get tortured BY demons, they BECOME demons to go harass people on other planets. As a basically decent person who simply doesn't believe in mormonism, you'd go to the middle kingdom. When I was a kid I thought it was weird that the one guy asking for proof was the one that was cast out and when the story is taught it is *heavily* blamed on his wife. Like as an adult I realized how screwed up that was. Also not that it matters, but it's mal-kez-i-deck. :)

[@lizertle3888]

I just listened to episode 1 today, not knowing it was the 3rd anniversary. Love timesuck and can't wait to hear scared to death.

[@onenerd9573]

You mentioned that some mainstream religions have cult-like aspects. I would agree but also add that some more fringe/obscure new religious movements that often get labeled as cults sometimes come off as more reasonable and chill. For example, Unitarian Universalism, or the Satanic Temple. I find that interesting.

[@Veraliin]

I wish my funny hat was magic lmao. "The Power of HaShem Compels you!"

[@natasha222]

A Nostradamus suck would be awesome!!

[@TheVannCave]

I was a SWAT commander at the Eldorado, TX raid. Would love to talk to you about it.

[@tchenzhen8187]

Me?

[@sherrycooper8834]

I would love to hear that story myself. I live in Texas and remember when that happened. I don't know how it ended

[@wiwysova]

Dan: so what was the raid like? You: *snort* oink oink *snort* oink oink oink

[@thomascook5804]

Dont worry Dan, unless God came and said hello to you in person you still get to level up. 👍

[@tobinjohnson1184]

Well I'm actually apart of the flds and there was a lot of truth in that but also you where wrong about a lot of things to we where taught that the world was wicked but we where also taught that if we persecute them then we are just as evil as they are. And the story of the armed guards was definitely not true. We had security but they used nonlethal weapons

[@tobinjohnson1184]

And I didn't believe a lot of what they teach but the only reason I'm still here is because af my family and a job that pays good but I would get kicked out if my parents found out I was on the internet

[@glitchedrazor]

i just did a forensics project on david berkowitz but i’d love for you to talk about him on the next suck!

[@1sthander373]

Im Michael MFN McDonald And welcome to.... THE ONE AND ONLY ALMIGHTY...(TIMESUCK)... KING OF ALL-PODCASTS* AND CULT* OF THE CURIOUS. * = #1 involving spacelizards#FACTS

[@ponyboygolden963]

Being someone raised in a Mormon family in Utah and also as someone who got sent home halfway through my mission I’m EXTREMELY EXCITED FOR THIS EPISODE. Been waiting for this suck on the cult I was once a part of. Love this podcast!

[@RedzoneBen]

Ponyboy Golden why'd you get sent home halfway through your mission??? Super curious as to why if it's related to Mormonism. This was such a great podcast, love them all!!

[@ponyboygolden963]

Ben R so it’s actually not as easy as one would think to just leave and go back home. I was never really onboard with the whole Mormon thing I was just 18 and didn’t know what to do with my life and thought a mission sounded fun so I got sent to Korea and learned Korean. If I would’ve got sent anywhere else I would’ve been home in two weeks but I fell in love with the Korean culture and the people there. Korean came super easy to me so the people all treated me with so much kindness. Although I loved the Korean culture and Korea itself I couldn’t stay on board with the Mormon thing especially after going through the temple (screams cult like practices) anyways my mission president wouldn’t allow me to leave so I went out to the clubs one weekend to get lit and hooked up with a lil Korean shortie so that we would have to send me home😂 That being said I have no ill feelings towards the church. The faith it gives my mom is what has kept her strong through a lot of bullshit and I wouldn’t be the man I am today if it wasn’t for her so I’m grateful for the happiness it brought into her life but it’s just not for me. Sorry for the novel😂

[@ponyboygolden963]

Ben R feel free to ask me anything else :)

[@kwg5044]

The burned over district in Western New York where all of these cults sprang up together..if you just Google Mushrooms in Western NY, the images that come up show a wide variety of ridiculously huge (20lb) mushrooms. I wonder if the climate at that time was even more fungi friendly. Going out in the woods to find a new God through magic rocks starts to sound kinda understandable considering the cocktail of spores in the air. (Just a thought)

[@militarygrade12380]

I live an hour south of navoo it’s a very nice place but the thing that really got me was I share the same birthday as Jeff’s to close to home lol

[@noughiphiet]

Hey Spacelizards.. can we stop upvoting topics on the coattails of Last Podcast on the Left? I think this is the 3rd time in the last 12 months.

[@Scott-Free-123]

They killed the mormon one so far. I think Dan left some stuff out bc timesuck fans are waaay more sensitive.

[@caleb3185]

Which was the Timesuck where Dan kept saying movin on up and was playing the soundbite for it?

[@blakewyatt8311]

Belle Gunness

[@madasheck1617]

Even scarier....this flds cult likes to visit Colorado...

[@josephsmith6777]

When u say garden of eden my mind goes to alot places Missouri isnt one of them

[@RaineeG62]

Haun's Mill was on Shoal Creek, not a river, in Livingston County. Breckenridge, saw some men tossed into a well and a millstone placed on top. Check into the attack on Far West. It's memorialized at the site just south of US 36 Hwy in Caldwell Co.

[@skye892]

I like to alternate between timesuck and lpotl... Though I appreciate the different takes, quit voting in the same topics at the same damn time guys 😂

[@dawnofthedeadling]

FOR REAL! 🤣

[@yogadork_namaste]

I'm going to start yelling cheese and crackers!! When I'm frustrated.

[@milkapeismilky5464]

Dan's chronic use of double negatives does wake my inner grammar Nazi. "Have came..."

[@thuggie1]

this is pretty must accurate over the LDS church

[@Alucard65535]

After this suck, I put on some magic Mormon underwear, a magic Jewish hat, and a monk robe all at the same time. All endowments in their own ways. Now, I'm extremely well endowed.

[@ankiesiii]

I loved this episode! Good job. (Also I don't like scary stories..)

[@bens1cultist405]

When’s the first scared to death podcast coming out

[@BadMagicProductions]

tomorrow night at midnight

[@rickygervais4421]

Nice

[@bens1cultist405]

Why thank you I’ll be listening tomorrow

[@tchenzhen8187]

I love Scared To Death 👍

[@bonesaw5899]

has anyone noticed Timesuck and Last Podcast on the left doing the same topics within days? Weird.

[@dawnofthedeadling]

Yeah, it gets kind of annoying after awhile. But I still listen, 'cause I love them both, lol.

[@polaroidsofpolarbears365]

Sad thing is, tlpotl has been working on theirs the last month. If that means anything, timesuck ripped off tlpotl.

[@dawnofthedeadling]

@@polaroidsofpolarbears365 I can't say or not if Dan listens to LPOTL, but I do know the Space Lizards get to vote on topics they want covered. A lot of LPOTL fans like myself listen to Timesuck too. I'm sure that's probably where the hang up is coming from. We have been up to our eyeballs with Mormonism on the LPOTL side, it just would've been nice to have a different topic while they are still covering it. I used to be a Space Lizard until I had to cut back on spending. I wish I could do it right now and offer input for different topics, but I just can't. I don't ever wanna discredit Dan or the rest of the Timesuck team. They do their work and they do good too.

[@BadMagicProductions]

@@polaroidsofpolarbears365 And so have we. For sucks sake, that's a blatant slap in the face to our staff who works their ass off, putting 40+ hours into researching a topic. This topic was voted in 3 WEEKS AGO and has been high on the topic voting board for over 6 months.

[@dawnofthedeadling]

@@BadMagicProductions It truly shows how much work you guys put into it all! Everything you do is highly appreciated and both Timesuck and LPOTL help get this gal through some long ass work days and then some! Much love to you all!

[@konvan28]

All hail Steve!

[@snowfort77]

Did i miss something? Why isn’t this in apple pods yet?

[@thepalmofdeborah2110]

Sounds like Muhammad and Khadijah; Shaping her man ambitiously into the prophet of the true faith(Islam). I love the determination of these fellas , they can overcome anything literally.

[@12-Poler]

“I’m a dead man, Joseph!” 😂

[@bobbiejordan1121]

Very interesting. Golly you're brutal. I love your baby face and how you can say the most outrageous things. Luv It.

[@josephsmith6777]

The magic undies are awesome they give them to soilders and they stop fire and bullets

[@jdubya2006]

I here for the poophole loophole😁

[@jeremymarble6493]

Jesus probably did come back in 56 yrs but he came back as the deer and now his head is hanging on a wall...

[@lilapache169]

Reminds me of South Park the play the book of Mormon both so funny

[@Gauge213666]

That Dum, Dum song kept playing in the back of my head while listening to it. So funny

[@josephsmith6777]

If u use the B.I.T.E. cult model its pretty cultish

[@ZechsMerquise73]

I don't care if it's fake, I wanna heckin' hunt some magical god relics with my wizard hat and talking lizard buddy.

[@johndefalque5061]

I do love your explanation that Christianity is as fantastical and absurd as any other religion-nothing special about it! I don't hate them I just think they are mythguided! You sure go easy on Mormonism over JW.Morgue! I got thrown out of a KH 38 yrs ago, so I hate them too!

[@michaelbraaten]

lol the wrestling promo music didn't come through on this feed... I'll have to check audio only to see if it made it onto that one

[@robertcorbell1006]

Who else got a kick out of the Albert Fish callback?

[@yogadork_namaste]

NOT cocker spaniels! They're my favorite dog. Why not chihuahuas? That would explain why they're always shaking. They're afraid of nimrod.

[@ConstantCompanion]

You would be so fun to sit down and have coffee with! Sorry. Tea. D'oh! Herbal tea! You would be so fun to sit and visit over herbal tea with!

[@lainiesdad11]

I love going back and listening to sucks more than once, I dated a Mormon. She was very attractive but sucked in the sack, everything was flip this and flip that lol.

[@bj.bruner]

I've been born and raised a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I know it's the kingdom of God on the earth and the Book of Mormon is the word of God. I served a two-year mission in Mexico and there gained a surer witness of what I know.

[@thepalmofdeborah2110]

Benjamin Joseph Bruner Amen!! I lived with Harry Potter and He taught me some really cool tricks. You won’t believe in the midst of all the white people He fell in love with me, a “BLACK”girl(2 Nephi 5:21) . I just wasn’t interested .I agreed to a flying on a broom 🧹 date though , it was so magical 🧙‍♀️. We flew over the Rainbow hills/Mts of China 🇨🇳. (with this logic of “true because I feel and say so” anything can be argued to be true.😏)

[@haydenholdiman6171]

I was also raised lds and have a much different understanding of god and the church 🤷🏼‍♂️ just because you went to church 2 to 3 times a week and got teaching pounded in your skull doesn’t mean it’s true. After all history is all relative and will always be bias but if it make you happy to each his own I just challenge you to think for yourself not to challenge your faith find out why you believe where those roots came from

[@stevenclark1662]

I got clean from drugs and have a spiritual connection with God. The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous MUST be the true word of God.

[@espojespo5]

Smoke another one lost one.

[@InTheMindOfDavid]

Beings descending to earth in a pillar of light from heaven? Now I’m not saying it’s aliens but... ...it’s aliens 👽 🛸 🪐

[@derekgreen7319]

You look exactly like I thought you would. Lol

[@josephsmith6777]

5 yrs of SUCK IT COULDNT SUCK MORE a hail nimrod and the great lucesfina

[@Alixxusa]

All these accidental podcast playing in public at the worst possible times in the podcast.. Such horse shit 😂

[@josephsmith6777]

My parents had a crazy sense of humor i was born a atheiest and i guess for shits n giggles nammed me joseph smith i had no clue until i was in my 30 til i found the ridicules magic pj wearing weird door knocking dead baptising strange af religion of my namesake

[@briankiwaa5519]

2:17:41

[@milkapeismilky5464]

9:35 there's also a lot of anti-mormon historical facts out there. I acknowledge there's probably some propaganda as well, but you don't really need to make things up to put the Mormon Church, especially it's origins, in a very negative light.

[@espojespo5]

🤣🤣🤣 the church attracts negative light all on its own for many reasons.

[@my30]

I was adopted by Mormons when I was 8. My parents are still super Mormon. And I’m lesbian and married Lmao

[@josephsmith6777]

Catholicism is pretty culty u go to a castle to eat fake flesh and drink blood from a guy dressed like a wizard

[@ConstantCompanion]

And one of the same. If you swear all the time? Its meaningless when it's important, Swearing, like salt, should be used sparingly.

[@josephsmith6777]

They do have living saints very cult like

[@theemptyatom]

Anyone who could believe 19th century Joey the sex pervert stories seriously needs help, just saying.

[@paris3396]

Pretty impolite actually. But it's the way you're impolite. Like you're doing me a favor.

[@madasheck1617]

Scary because you look like Pete kuntz### an flds neighbor of mine who was tampering with my water, food, and electricity

[@josephsmith6777]

Seed barer very hand maiden talish

[@janetrawlings1691]

Why do you have to talk so loud and cuss at me ?

[@marthabaggins4969]

1:34:57

[@polaroidsofpolarbears365]

Now I know you're definitely ripping off the last podcast on the left, they've been working on a 4 part series for the past month now. Dude, what the fuck...you're better than that.

[@Alixxusa]

And how do you know that?

[@stevenclark1662]

I call bullshit

[@josephsmith6777]

Why didnt god just give them his text in english why the plates stones and specticles does god not know english??????????

[@cryptomon86]

Who read Moronism?

[@tobinjohnson1184]

I'm flds and about 50 percent of what you said was true. But there was a lot of misunderstanding sin the story.