The American Hot Rod Association Winternationals at Bee Line Dragway, Phoenix, Arizona. January 1965.
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@Sed16765 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Phoenix in the 60’s and 70’s. Back then I remember it as being out in the boonies at least driving from north Phoenix. I can still hear the radio adds. “Beeline Dragway.....BEELINE DRAGWAY....Saturday Night.....SATURDAY NIGHT!!!...” It truly was grassroots racing. The AHRA events would offer the chance to see a Garlits, Ramchargers, Bill “Grumpy” Jenkins, Sox & Martin, etc. otherwise my local favorite was John Loper with his Chevy powered Anglia. First Gasser in the 9’s. N/A of course. Loper had a speed shop on East Camelback in Phoenix. Beeline was pretty basic..couple of porta potties and wood bleachers. I don’t even recall that they had a concession stand. We used to bring our own drinks and snacks. Great memories. Thanks for posting the video! John
@MrWolfTickets4 жыл бұрын
Some go, SOME BLOW!!!! (I heard that was a 70s California radio spot) thanks for sharing the details about the venue. It's nuts that no one would want to sell concessions to 6k people in attendance!!
@BPoweredLove Жыл бұрын
Back when Glendale/Northern Roads were north Phoenix and Bell Road was WAAAYYYYYY north Phoenix!
@bradfordeaton65584 жыл бұрын
I was at this show. I grew up in Phoenix and my dad took me to these races for my 16th birthday, Jan 30 1965. It was great!
@MrWolfTickets4 жыл бұрын
That is so cool. One of the best things about KZbin is that people like you can chime in. It's almost unreal (considering if this was on tv, and you missed it, you would NEVER see it again!!!)
@maximuswedgie51494 жыл бұрын
I wish crowds would show up to family events like this nowadays. It’s cool you got to experience this in person
@jpgasser48633 жыл бұрын
Any chance you remember Speed Engineering Speed Shop and their Willys truck?
@bradfordeaton65583 жыл бұрын
@@jpgasser4863 I remember but vaguely...that was a long time ago! Were you there?
@jpgasser48633 жыл бұрын
@@bradfordeaton6558 Own the truck. Just trying to find leads on it.
@mikemartin80885 жыл бұрын
I was there as a kid in 68!
@jodenelakehavasu7 ай бұрын
My mom was queen at the winter nationals, in 1967 and gave Connie Kalitta a trophy. My dad was a photographer and raced a dragster the Desert Digger at Beeline.
@michaelhalsall56843 жыл бұрын
I love these old drag racing videos, as I'm a bit of a drag racing history enthusiast! I first discovered drag racing as a teenager in the early 1970s and remember some of these drivers' name in magazines of the time. Keep these video coming! Regards from Australia.
@scottfox76427 жыл бұрын
Old school drag racing. This is what its about.
@ThomasDeLello6 жыл бұрын
The AHRA allowed and promoted nitromethane fuel cars in the years when the NHRA would not... BUT... The March Meet at Bakersfield's Famoso Drag Strip was the bigger fuel event then. This video was made just when the NHRA relented and brought on the fuel cars. I lived it.
@dougsnider87804 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Scottsdale Az..Beeline Drag strip was close to my home...it was on The Salt River Indian Reservation. It's been gone for years, after the strip was closed the military used the strip portion of the track for some kind of devise testing.
@BPoweredLove Жыл бұрын
And a skeet and trap range was built just next to where the track was. It closed around 2008.
@roadhog19704 жыл бұрын
i wonder how many of those old school dragsters are laying out in a field somewere forgotten
@deano10101012 жыл бұрын
I’m proud of my grandpa - Dean Turk. Thank you for sharing this video!
@TheGG7949 жыл бұрын
Great video with some of the first funny-cars . Landy's Dodge was one of my favorites back then . Chris "The Greek" still drives in top fuel to this day !
@kevintucker33545 жыл бұрын
Yes! The very first funny cars! Very strange looking modified wheel base cars. Looks to me like they were trying to go incognito and get away with things that weren’t quite listed in the “rule book”!
@THNKKY11 күн бұрын
Been driving past this thing for decades. I had no idea it used to be a raceway.
@geraldhague61703 жыл бұрын
Agreed this is when dragracing was lots of fun gave the low budget teams a chance many different makes models etc
@35sixer10 жыл бұрын
wow.. spent alot of fun filled days and nights at BeeLine.. Great movie!
@Oldrbutnowisr7 жыл бұрын
and more fun nights cruising Central - - used to run down from Snowflake to look for some street action on weekends
@abandoned_classics50295 жыл бұрын
Oldrbutnowisr I bought an old 65 white mustang fastback up in pine top. Has some evidence of it being raced. You remember anything like that??
@kevintucker33545 жыл бұрын
Oldrbutnowisr Love the name and I’m right there with you. It must be genetic...
@70sstreetracer6 жыл бұрын
Loved the Commentary on these old clips
@paulross92873 жыл бұрын
Heck, I love just looking at the push cars, let alone the dragsters.
@gregakinson28004 жыл бұрын
Back when reaction time (by driver not computer) and driver ability won the race and NOT the engine/computer. Ah the good old days....
@steveeddy68762 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 63 Plymouth Fury 2dr hrdtp 440 push button shift automatic!
@leevahal9004 жыл бұрын
It was actually just north of Mesa Az on Hwy 87.It is still called BeeLine hiway.Its about 2or 3 miles ne on 87 just past 1st dirt road after Gilbert road.not much left but the outline of the track can still be made out.I remember some of the best eliminator racing ever.Non stop back to back racing all day long.
@BPoweredLove Жыл бұрын
Yep. Then a skeet and trap shooting range used that exit, sitting just next to where the track was, facing northward towards the Beeline. It was there until 2008 and the whole area has been abandoned ever since.
@Sed1676 Жыл бұрын
I remember the drive to Beeline from our home at 9th Ave and Northern back in the 60’s. It was a good 45 minutes to an hour drive. I saw Grumpy Jenkins there along with Dyno Don Nickerson and many in others.The AHRA events always drew a good selection of national contestant.also saw Bob Glidden and his two sons racing at the speed world track located out in the tulles in the rar NW part of valley. Those were the days.
@davez3838 Жыл бұрын
Awesome footage from back in the day!!! I'm lovein it thanks for sharing this with us!!!.
@scottfox76427 жыл бұрын
True old school drag racing. No turbos, super chargers and fuel injection. Just pure muscle cars.
@therealmaxspeedster6 жыл бұрын
Top Fuel was *all about* superchargers and fuel injection...
@kevinpatrick87885 жыл бұрын
Max Speedster i think hes referring to the super stock classes .
@HenauderTitzauf4 жыл бұрын
That bunch of engineers at MOPAR sure was a great force, before Darth Vader!
@marktemsic74576 жыл бұрын
Maloney Motors, Canton, Oh...!!! thanks for posting.👍👍
@shaunroberts93612 жыл бұрын
My uncle DEAN TURK Raced here. Dean TURK passed away last week. He will be missed on building heads for allot of people. Dean is Seen in this video.
@lemchesher3112 жыл бұрын
I remember these so well I went to Hobbs NM a lot to race I love to watch Dick Harrell . Another favorite was fennel tubes from Lubbock and James Buttler of Morton Texas with ford falcon little red , and license plate that said ( remember Me )
@ToddWright26 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! This is awesome! Thanks!
@brian83944 жыл бұрын
It’s sad, majority of those cars are either rotting somewhere or disappeared somewhere along the years
@TheGreenmeeny10 жыл бұрын
Wicked vid, cheers for posting.
@1vrsc5 жыл бұрын
mopars kicking some arse. love it
@cindysue54747 жыл бұрын
My husband used too go too that track in the 70s shame that it is gone.Firebird got too expensive.
@nascarfan88ta4 жыл бұрын
This is the series that TheGreek dominated. My favorite driver. I honestly only watch NHRA now if he's running the event.
@jerimahjohnson86983 жыл бұрын
I still have a 63 Polara in my garage
@surferbri53464 жыл бұрын
Color me gone was badass
@dougatdesertdemongarage77774 жыл бұрын
I found one of the color me gone cars in Oregon hanging off the clips and nobody would bother the guy finally sold it to me
@MrJohnnyDistortion3 жыл бұрын
Hanging off the clips?
@crazytrain71145 жыл бұрын
IN THE DIRT? KEEP ON IT!!
@steveeddy68762 жыл бұрын
Wow I Love it real AMERICAN cars with steal Bumpers KOOL!
@MrWolfTickets4 жыл бұрын
6:00 the precursor to the Sega 'blast processing' ad
@kurtpoblenz27415 жыл бұрын
Mopars kicking ass & not a Ford or Chevy in sight.... great day 👍🏻... mopar or no car!!!!
@shimshonbendan87305 жыл бұрын
Hmm, maybe you forgot about the domination by Pontiac with their 421 Catalinas and the 409 Chevys. Remember that GM, under threat of antitrust laws being applied because of their total market domination, forbade their divisions from racing. In 1962, GM had 53% of the market and the Justice Department was watching them carefully. If they got to 60%, they would have been broken up. There was no direct GM factory support until the early 1970s. Let's see, how many Can Am, Trans Am, LeMans and F5000 races has Mopar won?
@kevintucker33545 жыл бұрын
B'Chayil Ben Dan You’re absolutely right, and I’ve finally learned in my older age that the picking side in historical car wars is only a personal preference! The more you look into all areas the less you can support your ideas of why one is better than another. Apply this to politics and set yourselves free!!!
@kevinpatrick87885 жыл бұрын
B'Chayil Ben Dan mopar had the 413 and 426 max wedge to compete with them when the sd catalinas and 409 chevs were racing in early 60s
@amc401nash64 жыл бұрын
It's a known fact that Chrysler fibbed about the shipping weight of their cars in the early 60's to gain an advantage in super stock. After being called out on the matter they released the Gen2 Hemi which was a racing only design and never a practical production engine like the Ford, Pontiac and Chevy. In other words, if you bring a machine gun to a knife fight there's no reason you shouldn't win.
@DUNEATV3 жыл бұрын
My god...where are these cars today?
@seththomas91055 жыл бұрын
Sadly, just a few weeks earlier John Milner was killed by a drunk driver while driving home from a day of racing in California, can't remember the track. He was a great street racer back in the late 50's/early 60's around Modesto California and with some decent sponsership they say he could have been one hell of a Top Fuel man....
@outdoorfuninthesun23934 жыл бұрын
I believe it was Fremont. John wins the race in Top Fuel against the factor sponsored Hunt Brothers. Gets killed while driving from the track. 😥
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty2 жыл бұрын
I was born 30 years to late!!!
@kevinpatrick87885 жыл бұрын
look at all the mopars. they ruled the dragstrips in the 60s
@kevintucker33545 жыл бұрын
But in a couple years Grumpy switched to Chevys and starting stomping on all who stepped. It comes and goes. The design of the big block Chrysler with the hemi heads though, would continue to dominate but only in top fuel. It worked so well under supercharger boost at high rpms with the timing set extremely advanced, to the point where that kind of thing was never seen before! Garlits said that he and his peers never really squeezed the full potential out of the 426 hemi until they changed the chassis to the rear engine setup, where they weren’t so afraid of loosing a valve and exploding the blower right in their faces. Once the engine was behind them, they found they could push it to extreme conditions and set new records on every outing! Garlits said that every run he would advance the timing another degree and the car would get faster and faster to the point where it would pop and crack and bang and he was sure it would blow during the run but instead it just put out more and more power and set record after record.
@kevinpatrick87885 жыл бұрын
Kevin Tucker jenkins switched to chevys after i think 1964 and then competed in pro stock in late 60s to early 70s and did well but most of the time jenkins lined up against ronnie sox he lost . in 70 and 71 sox was so dominant with his hemi cuda that jenkins got wally parks to impose weight penalties on any hemi powered mopar starting in 1972 season . sox never won a national event after that bs and was this was a disgrace to the sport. decades later when ronnie sox was getting inducted into the drag racing hall of fame parks appologized to sox for screwing the mopars over. too much politics creeped into drag racing and now its a corporate shitshow where you have to be rich and have huge sponsorship dollars to even race
@ryanmac82834 жыл бұрын
@@kevintucker3354 He did real good in sixty six and seven.But sixty eight through seventy one mopars dominated.lol They basically created pro stock so chevy and ford could compete.But sox and martin still dominated the first two seasons of pro stock.
@davidandrews96703 жыл бұрын
Burnouts and real Christmas trees were very big changes to the starting line. What year did those start?
@chinookvalley4 жыл бұрын
The world has gone to shit in a hand basket. Give me the good ol days.
@MICKEY43563 жыл бұрын
Good times.
@ghoward6797 Жыл бұрын
Man I loved that track
@gordyschwarz84837 жыл бұрын
I owned the mule for a while
@rickbiggers40966 жыл бұрын
My dad owned the Mule 1965 ply ,Made it into a Funny car
@SolamenteVees4 жыл бұрын
That is a cavalcade of A990 cars
@kweiman86429 жыл бұрын
Six cylinder audio over a super stock Plymouth WTF hahaha cool footage
@kevintucker33545 жыл бұрын
Right!!? I hate this old bullshit dubbing over the original sounds!!
@chapmyers92722 жыл бұрын
Cool as all get out. Where would these films have been screened?
@_Peremalfait5 жыл бұрын
Looks like Mopar hemis ruled the day.
@woolyhighlander72805 жыл бұрын
Still do !
@sebastianpereira13298 жыл бұрын
E.J.Potter."The Michigan. Madman.At 2:20?
@threynolds25 жыл бұрын
Yes it is.
@roadking00734 жыл бұрын
Most definitely. Man, that guy had balls that had as much horsepower as his bike did!
@ViperACR018 жыл бұрын
I never heard (or don't recall) staggered starts back then.. How'd they know how much of a lead to give the car starting ahead of the other guy? Maybe it was an AHRA thing?
@firebirdjone8 жыл бұрын
Not sure about AHRA, but stagger starts were in the NHRA 1959 rule book, we used those rules for the nostalgia races we put on years ago. From what I remember you got a car length per tenth ET difference. Didn't really work out all that well though, lol. For instance, when it came time for top eliminator at the end of the day one might be a 14 second car and the other a 9 second slingshot. The car would start half way down the track.
@firebirdjone8 жыл бұрын
To help explain that better, in 1959 they didn't have a christmas tree, they had flagmen, which we also used at our events. So the flagman would have to walk down track.
@ThomasDeLello6 жыл бұрын
What kind of starting system were they using at the Bee Line...? I don't see a tree and the starter hasn't got a flag... Looks like he brings his hands together up over his head then touches his fingers together... I have never seen that... The tree was available to most tracks in '63.
@bretmuldner6 жыл бұрын
There was a stop light on wires at the start
@ThomasDeLello6 жыл бұрын
I see that now... awkward if you ask me.
@labrd415 жыл бұрын
Flagman during handicapped races. 16:14
@ThomasDeLello5 жыл бұрын
Dick Clark...?!
@BenMcneil-hk8xv4 жыл бұрын
I still have my ahra see on patch but I'm looking for Ron shimek in the vidio
@steveeddy68762 жыл бұрын
Hmmm looks like Mopar dominantion no Chevys?
@Joshua-th4vn8 жыл бұрын
This place is now abandoned. Just checked it out a month ago.
@pauldashwood28976 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame there’s a few like this now good ole days..
@seththomas91055 жыл бұрын
like most things engine based it has become so Godd*&n expensive to race. :(
@jondoe406 Жыл бұрын
It looks like their tree was set up for instant green, but also looks like the starter was flagging with his arms 🤔
@petercrowl94674 жыл бұрын
White Levi's!
@shiftintohigh55647 жыл бұрын
Tom Hoover, father of the Hemi?
@6bblbird1047 жыл бұрын
No, different guy. This Tom Hoover was from Minnesota and raced Fuelers and Funny cars. The Father of the Hemi was from PA and worked for Chrysler corp.
@seancahill32194 жыл бұрын
Showtime!
@steveeddy68762 жыл бұрын
Hmm Grumpy Jenkins drove a mopar at one time???
@Uncletoast525 жыл бұрын
Another deserted race track on Indian land.
@brucejohnson85214 жыл бұрын
That drag strip was somehow involved in the downfall of Frank Kush, coach of ASU
@MontanaDodgeBoys9 жыл бұрын
Mopar or Nocar
@LtJackboot6 жыл бұрын
'Ya gotta HAVE Mopar to BEAT Mopar'
@kevintucker33545 жыл бұрын
I miss my 67 Plymouth valiant 273 that had a swapped in 340 and 727... I don’t want to kick myself anymore but that lightweight car on around 350 horsepower was the loudest and most fun car I’ve ever had and if I had only....
@MGB184 жыл бұрын
You mean FIAT right? lol.
@MGB184 жыл бұрын
Montana FIAT Boys: This was AHRA drag racing. LOL.
@SaltyDawg-wu5kr4 жыл бұрын
Y'ALL REMBER MASTER FIELD MIAMI? HOLLYWOOD /MIAMI DRAG WAY CAME AND WENT 67/???
@ORego-em8yf4 жыл бұрын
CAPTAIN SALTY , yes I do! By Miami Dade college north campus!! Great times!
@lesterleland7 жыл бұрын
HEADRESTS ANYONE? put a tiger in that durn tank why don't ya!
@TheGeil85005 жыл бұрын
LOL. All Mopars
@patriotrob70664 жыл бұрын
Great videos but wish we could hear the real car's and not this .its all the same sound bytes over and over
@shiftintohigh55647 жыл бұрын
Mopar 2 U!
@lecil25 жыл бұрын
Mostly Chrysler
@lostsoul31548 жыл бұрын
Mopars galore, sadly because GM got out of racing 2 years prior to '65. Biggest mistake of GM ever, even worse than producing the Vega.
@Oldrbutnowisr7 жыл бұрын
which ( Vega ) in the hands of my old aquaintence Da Grump from Malvern Pa. later spanked the mighty Mopars with their dual distributor big blocks with little SBC . Also look up this vid " Tom Heatley Vega crash" that happened in 2001 at NED a friggin hose clamp let go on what would have been a 7.90 pass causing the right rear to lose traction and the car to shoot across the track hitting the Jersey barrier then tumbling and sliding across the finish clearing the return lane in the air and landing upside down . Tommy has a time slip with an 8.39 with a 6 so when he tells someone he's been faster on his roof than they've been on 4 wheels he ain't kidding . That Vega was a Vanishing Point chassis with a Pat Musi 632 w staged 500 shot of nitros. Y'all can thank our lovely camera guy for the great shot of the Jersey Barrier and the quote "ya gotta be bullshittin me" as the car shoots across the track instead of actually catching the action - - a little PS any of you reading this if you know anything of old Arizona racers from my days at Beeline - - Del Blades ( the Rapier), Joe Rundle ( the Red Rat), John Loper (Lil Hoss), Ronny Timbush (Born Bad) please give me a shout . And let me also say I hated this starter thank God for "the TREE" and actual handicapped starts from the same launch pad
@AmericanSurvival0017 жыл бұрын
Patrick Joseph GMc got out to save itself embarrassment (lack of HP ) and this is all privately owned street racer vehicles anyway
@gerilynntarvin94026 жыл бұрын
GM officially got out of factory backed racing but continued to fund racers such as Grumpy Jenkins. NHRA became GMs bitch as GM sponsored behind closed doors the races by providing all support vehicles to NHRA.- thus the "factoring" of the Mopar and Ford Hemi's by making them run ballast to allow Chevrolets to win. Jenkins cried the Hemis had an advantage-- NHRA made the "inline valve heads " rule to eliminate the hemi's but allowed the BBC's porcupine heads as being "almost inline valve heads".THAT led to Ford and Mopar losing for a while. there is still no super stock that can compete with the 1968 Hemi Darts and cuda's.
@LtJackboot6 жыл бұрын
I had a Vega- 74 Kammback Wagon with a Malibu 350 and TH 350 with a 2 stage kit- THEN I put some 292 heads on it! Low 11's in the 8th (we don't have a full size track here)
@west40574 жыл бұрын
patrick - another one of GM s great decisions. i know, i worked at the messed up place.
@MrDonSnow4 жыл бұрын
To me rails are nothing but super modified go-karts. Not a car!
@allenoshana74612 ай бұрын
ALL MOPAR!!!!!!
@onestepbeyond72404 жыл бұрын
T/F running 7s . There's street cars running in the low 6s these days ! LOL
@steveornancampbell4756 Жыл бұрын
Those were the days. All the greats showing up in Phoenix in the winter. Heroes just doing what we all loved. Count the names of the legends at the "Winternationals". I was there at Beeline and wish these days had never ended. Thanks for the great memories.
@Sed1676 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoyed watching local racer Johnny Loper running his Chevy big block powered British Anglia. It was a. Handful.
@TA-pp9jk5 жыл бұрын
Mopar Mopar and another Mopar
@alanarmstrong23239 ай бұрын
No Gas Ronda 65 champ in A/FX.
@precbsfender Жыл бұрын
Real Deal Drag Racing, before the Big Corporate Monster destroyed the sport.
@allenoshana74614 ай бұрын
It’s MOPAR or no car!
@lostsoul31546 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thanks to GM getting out of racing 2 years earlier, all we see is Mayflowers. Down with GMC.
@dday92576 жыл бұрын
Patrick Joseph Yea GM had to get out they didn’t and still don’t have anything to complete with the Chrysler Hemi.The king of the racing engines
@79tazman5 жыл бұрын
It looks like a Mopar car show 99% of the cars there are all mopars LOL!! It's all Dodge Vs Plymouth
@vincentlussier82642 жыл бұрын
This was when we had real drag racing! All this fun and excitement and it was cheap to go to and almost free. Then the NHRA turned it into a money grubbing greedy event for the promoters. I family guy can't bring his wife and kids because the prices fucking hijack you!
@shiftintohigh55647 жыл бұрын
Do you see a fat person? Male or female?
@seththomas91055 жыл бұрын
Nope, and it was that way until the 1990's and kids started to sit at computers all day.
@VitaminDurs4 жыл бұрын
@@seththomas9105 except all the fatties were our parents, not the kids sitting at computers