Timing Belt & Water Pump Replacement - Honda Pilot

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Hardly Moving Productions

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@alohawg
@alohawg 3 жыл бұрын
My 2013 accord 3.5 has 86k now. Dealers in Hawaii are insane, 3 choices, all around $1700. Screw that, I'll try it. This is the best vid I've seen hands down, appreciate it. The explanation on setting the belt is great. I figure in a year or so I'll have a go at it.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! $1,700!!!??? Mind blowing! Believe it or not, the mechanic will only make around $200 for his work.
@alohawg
@alohawg 3 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro yeah, total rip. I really think I can do this with proper prep, patience and attention to detail. Just need to decide if I want to invest in a Milwaukee impact, try a cheaper corded or go the breaker/cheater bar way with the special socket.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 3 жыл бұрын
@@alohawg You can get away with using a cheapo ac electric impact gun. You'll definitely need the 19 mm high mass impact socket to get the crank pulley bolt off. The rest of the job you can get away with using hand tools. I get the job done faster and easier using my electric ratchet tools.
@alohawg
@alohawg 3 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro good deal, yeah I was looking at this earlier. www.harborfreight.com/85-amp-corded-12-in-heavy-duty-extreme-torque-impact-wrench-64120.html The socket and special tool can be gotten together on Amazon under $30. Thanks again, brother, good stuff.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 3 жыл бұрын
@@alohawg Yea ... the harborfreight would work just fine.
@albertdejesus7611
@albertdejesus7611 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I replaced my Honda Pilot 2010 timing belt 4 years ago. I struggled so much to break loose the crankcase bolt until I bought that special socket and it works like a champ 😊👊!!
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@donaldmorrison7830
@donaldmorrison7830 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Very well done. I'm about 50K from doing this job myself on a 2012 vs $1000 at the dealer. Pretty much the same as the Accord but a bit more involved getting to the motor mount for removal. In addition, once the belt is on, tensioner released I'd rotate the engine with a breaker bar at least once if not twice around to make sure the marks are in correct timing.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! We'll be doing a TB/WP video pretty soon on a 2004 Acura TL V6 which is much the same as the Pilot ... so stay tuned. On V6 twin cam sprocket engines, you'll have to rotate the engine more than twice if using paint on the timing belt to perform an alignment check. As long as the belt it tight between the cam sprockets and the sprockets match their alignment marks -and- the belt leading from the cam to the crankshaft has no slack and the crankshaft match with the alignment marks, there's no need to do an engine rotation to check the alignment. Moreover, you can also start the car with the TB covers off before buttoning everything back up. Here's where I did it on a Honda Accord I4 and a Camry I4: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIOZiJKdhZaVpZYkzbin.info/www/bejne/oaSTqqGArb5_pLs
@soyeldiego4878
@soyeldiego4878 5 жыл бұрын
Recently did this work on the Wifey’s 06 Ody. Who ever performed the timing belt before stripped the engine motor mount bolt. Took forever and a day to back out the bolt with lots of patience and WD40. Once removed, tapped and dressed the mount and bolt. Dealer wanted over $200 just for the aluminum mount. No way Jose! To much $$$ already spent on OEM parts...Great video, thanks...
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Good job and thanks! Next time think about taking a trip to the salvage yard to get needed parts.
@jimmurphy5739
@jimmurphy5739 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant vid! I bought the parts today at the dealership. Belt, pump, tensioner and 2 bottles of coolant came to $855.74 CAD (taxes in) which is about $635 USD. And labour will be about $900 CAD (~$665 USD) give or take. Doing it myself for the second time (did my old 2007 Odyssey about 10 years ago - same kind of thing.) Not looking forward to it, but stoic. Your filming was excellent! Great angles, good sounds, useful captions, helpful comments. And no BS. I wasn't planning to replace the idler pulleys. And the dealership's closed for the next 3 days, so I hope that doesn't trip me up. Is it common to have to replace them? I was only planning to do the belt and water pump. I got the tensioner just in case and I'm going to take it back ($300!!!) if not needed. Thanks for taking the time to make this.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! I highly recommend you replace the TB idler pulley. FYI: Honda and Toyota do not make these replacement parts. They outsource to Japanese parts providers (Aisin, Denso, NTN, Koyo, Misuboshi, Bando, etc.) and place it in a box that says Honda or Toyota. For example, Aisin makes water pumps for both Honda and Toyota. When you buy it from Aisin, they grind off the Toyota or Honda logo from the aluminum. When you buy from the dealer, you're paying for Toyota's and Honda's mark up. You can buy these OEM parts from rockauto.com a lot cheaper than from the dealer. For example, I'll buy a Denso or Koyo radiator for around $100. The dealer MSRP is around $350!
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. We try to make what seems to be a complex job as simple as possible.
@rogerwilco4173
@rogerwilco4173 5 жыл бұрын
You are a bro for putting this *fantastic* video and information together. Thanks man. Thumbs up on a good 1/2 inch cordless impact.... I can't live without that thing anymore.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Yup ... once you start using that cordless impact driver, you can't live without. Can't imagine a time where I made due without out.
@javiboo
@javiboo 5 жыл бұрын
This convinced me NOT to try this one on our 2013 Honda Pilot. I'll tackle a lot of things but not the timing belt where if I screw something up i'll toast my engine. Props to you guys who do it!
@jacobgomez2682
@jacobgomez2682 5 жыл бұрын
Not hard , just follow steps like anything else
@ronlind1757
@ronlind1757 Жыл бұрын
Did you discount the battery for this job, like when computer (sub) got disconnected and removed?? Thanks
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro Жыл бұрын
Not necessary if the ignition is off.
@kaliko70
@kaliko70 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you SO much for sharing!
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thanks for your post!
@Charles-D-Judge
@Charles-D-Judge 2 жыл бұрын
Do I have to remove my radiator fans for this job?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. These are transverse mounted engines that face the fender.
@dc5duben96
@dc5duben96 Ай бұрын
very helpful video thanks
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@daltonsrepairs6548
@daltonsrepairs6548 5 жыл бұрын
Your method worked great! Thank you
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@sportsterrider-uh6ej
@sportsterrider-uh6ej 2 жыл бұрын
I just found and watched this video today, as I am considering doing this job on my 2012 Pilot.Thanks for the great instructions! My only concern is torquing the harmonic balancer bolt correctly. All other videos show this step being done on a lift, using a balancer holder tool and plenty of room to swing a torque wrench underneath. I will be doing this on the ground as you did. The recommended procedure I've seen is, torque to 47 ft/lbs then tighten an additional 60 degrees. I'm not sure this can easily be done sitting on the ground, working in the fender well using a 1/2" torque wrench. How did you accomplish this step?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 2 жыл бұрын
I just torque down the balancer bolt with a high torque electric impact gun. The bolt will not come loose.
@saturnslightcollective
@saturnslightcollective 2 жыл бұрын
Is it easy to change the spark plugs during the process of changing out the timing belt and water pump?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 2 жыл бұрын
Removal and replacement of the spark plugs is unrelated to performing a TB replacement; however, removal of the plugs does make it easier to rotate the engine since there's no compression pressure to overcome.
@papo862
@papo862 5 жыл бұрын
just had timing belt replaced with the kit now steering wheel feels tough so could it be air ?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
The timing belt or the accessory belt? Because the accessory belt drives the power steering pump. Check the fluid level in the power steering reservoir.
@papo862
@papo862 5 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro timing done but hoses for power steering where disconnected to make room im asking is there possibility that it might have air fluid is good topped up
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Even if air got into the lines, the air will eventually work its way out to the reservoir.
@papo862
@papo862 5 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro thanks for the response
@Saavere5000
@Saavere5000 3 жыл бұрын
Please help! I've done ALL the steps but having major hard time with the crank shaft pulley nut.. ive got the special 19 socket but my dewalt only offer 300 pounds off tork... any suggestions
@Amaymay1000
@Amaymay1000 3 жыл бұрын
impact gun...
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 3 жыл бұрын
Try applying some heat on the pulley nut head with a propane torch. Not red hot. Then attempt to torque it loose.
@sivucit
@sivucit 5 жыл бұрын
I have one more question please, i thought of changing crank seal, but the challenge i found was removing the woodruf key, it is not coming out at all, i hammered little bit but eventually left it like that, i dont want to damage crank, i used chisel and slight hammered but no luck, what you recommend to remove stubburn crank key(woodruf key)..
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
There should be no reason to remove the woodruf key. If the crank pulley gear is stuck, you should use a pulley removal tool.
@sivucit
@sivucit 5 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro hi, to change crankshaft front seal, can i remove crank gear(smaller one) without removing woodruf key. i thought u take woodruf key out then the small crank pulley out then change the crank seal.
@sivucit
@sivucit 5 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro hi, i am able to remove crankk pullye, it is next small crank sprocket pulley onn which timing belt rides NOT serpentine belt, that is the pulley i want to remove to change crank seal. which i believe have to remove woodruf key which is stuck and it wont come out
@AcuraAddicted
@AcuraAddicted 4 жыл бұрын
You should not have any issues removing the key. If it is stuck, something is wrong. The key should move freely and should be removed easily once you remove the harmonic balancer.
@ShutterProp
@ShutterProp 2 жыл бұрын
Would the process be the same for a 2015 Honda Pilot or are there substantial differences?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 2 жыл бұрын
Should be the same once you able to access the time belt covers.
@oggarage3459
@oggarage3459 5 жыл бұрын
Hey there sir, I was wondering if you could give some advice on my upcoming project, it's my sons 1991 acura legend v6 it needs an water pump replacement and while we're at it we gonna replace timing belt and tensioners too,what kit do you recommend we get that it would at least last 100k miles ... Thanks
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Dayco is a big OEM parts supplier for the auto industry. Here's a link to the kit advertised on Amazon: amzn.to/2YZurJB You can also go with CRP Industries. Here's the link: amzn.to/2JQqEe8
@Bhalong05
@Bhalong05 3 жыл бұрын
Hello i really interested on your video installing new water pump and belt. Yoi made so easy buddy.. good job.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@brianholz9882
@brianholz9882 4 жыл бұрын
How long of a process is this?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
Around 3 hrs for me
@jimmurphy5739
@jimmurphy5739 3 ай бұрын
The OP really knows what he's doing. I, on the other hand, am pretty handy having rebuilt engines and stoff as an amateur, but I'm no pro. I did it once on a 2007 Odyssey and it took all day. I'm starting from scratch today on a 2016 and I expect to be finished by tomorrow at supper. (Got some kid-shuttling to do at the same time.) Book at least 6 straight hours on a nice sunny day if you have all the tools you need. I know you asked this 4 years ago, but good luck to those of you who had the same question!
@medusagorgon9
@medusagorgon9 2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome, and much appreciated.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@georgedelcic9745
@georgedelcic9745 4 жыл бұрын
Hey so at the end to put the timing belt tensioner you said turn clockwise. I assume once you line it back up you release the tensioner correct
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
That's correct. Clock wise will move the slack to the left where the tensioner goes
@JmanRx81
@JmanRx81 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, you need the weighted 19mm socket specifically designed to remove that crank bolt. Takes it off with one good buzz from the impact.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
You're 100% correct and thanks for your comment. You just didn't watch the video to the 1:52 minute mark where I used the 19 mm high mass socket. I wanted to show people what it's like NOT to have a high mass (weighted) impact socket.
@WingoTribe704
@WingoTribe704 4 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro 🤣🤣🤣 thanks brother. I laugh at how people comment before fully watching. So ready to speak lol
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
@@WingoTribe704 Yup ... is that amazing or basic human nature. See something wrong then spend time to comment immediately rather than watching the rest of the video. Probably gave me a thumbs down too.
@raymelvinchan
@raymelvinchan 4 жыл бұрын
hi is it reverse thread ?? thanks
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
No reverse threads
@royaltyfree5177
@royaltyfree5177 Жыл бұрын
Disconnect battery first?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter.
@royaltyfree5177
@royaltyfree5177 Жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro ummm ok
@sivucit
@sivucit 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I just subscribed your channel few weeks ago. I watched quite a lot from there. I liked the way you use chain wrench in other videos and ordered one for me. As part of this video, I myself done pilot timing belt change a week ago, one thing i struggled for 2 hours is putting the new belt back. I see lot of slack between crank to camshaft. then right camshaft to left camshaft with water pump in middle. You marked the old belt with paint and transferred it to new belt, very good idea i should have watched your before. question is you move crank pulley clockwise one notch to right, then at times you turn crank pulley 2 notch to the left .. didnot understand this, because when you fit the belt with crank to camshaft(right) and when you turn crank will not your timing on right cam will also shift, you also said turn crank 2 nothc to left again will not this affect timing on both the cam.. can you please explain in detail, i am sure i am missing something, so next time i wont spend 2 hours if i understand your trick. Thanks again. let me know if i want to contribute some dollar to your channel.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
It's your choice if you want to move the crank or camshaft pulley to ease mounting of the belt. If you move either one towards each other (1 or 2 cogs) you're creating slack to make the mounting easier. When you re-position what your moved (crank or cam pulley) after the belt installation to TDC, and if your used your paint marks, everything should line up with no belt slack.
@patrickryan5343
@patrickryan5343 5 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro I may have missed it, but did you thread the battery clamp bolt to hold the timing belt adjuster? Also install the idler pulley bolt loosely so the pulley can move but not fall off? Curious if these steps would make it easier to put the belt on, and not have to mess with moving the cams/crankshaft. I'm a newb DIY, and read these steps in the Haynes manual. Great video, btw. Thanks!
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Threading the battery clamp bolt is a technique used to keep the belt tensioner pin locked before removing the belt. I prefer to press down and compress the tensioner pin back down in a vice and lock it in place with a metal pin (aka granade pin from a previous TB job or a drill bit). This was shown in the video. The tensioner exists on the left side of the engine...the side with the most slack. Mounting of the belt is on the right side where there's no slack. You make the slack by turning either the crank or cam into each other, mount the belt and turn the crank or cam back to its TDC position. After the belt has been installed on the right side, the left cam may have to turned towards the right cam to mount the belt. When both cams have the belt mounted, the left side belt mounting is easy ... there's plenty of slack. The starting point of the belt installation starts at the crankshaft. It's up to you if want to mount the belt starting from the left cam or the right cam. It doesn't matter. Use paint marks to verify the cam and crank positions. The details I'm providing you is technique not provided in typical repair manuals. All they tell you is to mount the belt.
@patrickryan5343
@patrickryan5343 5 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro Wow, thanks for the quick reply, much appreciated. I'll give your technique a try. Thanks again!
@cp-mv5up
@cp-mv5up 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and great step by step written directions on your site. Do you believe this would be the same, or similar enough to follow, on a 2001 Acura Cl Premium?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think the Acura may be easier. May not have all that electrical stuff I had removed to get to the side motor mount on the Pilot. Have a friend with a late model MDX. None of that electrical stuff is in the way.
@cp-mv5up
@cp-mv5up 6 жыл бұрын
Hardly Moving Productions Thanks!
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
No problem.
@hippiemiller
@hippiemiller 4 жыл бұрын
Ty for making this alot of good information 👍
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@570jj
@570jj 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, for both a 2012 Pilot and a 2005 Pilot. Thanks!
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your comment! Glad you found the video useful.
@84537269
@84537269 5 жыл бұрын
by accident timing belt broke, how can I re-aline the timing belt correctly? thanks.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Did the belt brake while the engine was running?
@jcontradiction
@jcontradiction 4 жыл бұрын
which milwaukee impact wrench was that? looks like an old model.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
Which one? I'm using two.
@jcontradiction
@jcontradiction 4 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro which one did you use to remove the crank bolt?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
@@jcontradiction amzn.to/33MtHLi
@MaverickGaming
@MaverickGaming 6 жыл бұрын
I had the timing belt fail on my '09, so tackling it myself, lot of money being sunk into tools I'm only ever going to use one time...but still cheaper then taking it to a shop.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
I hear ya! Only thing you have to worry about is if any of the valves are bent. If so, you'll have to remove the cylinder heads and bring it to an automotive machine shop to get the heads worked on.
@WingoTribe704
@WingoTribe704 4 жыл бұрын
How many miles were on your Pilot? Manufacturer recommends replacing at 107k My silly butt thought I was getting a new Ram and didn't put the money in it and now I'm at 140k with knocking noise. Not sure if it's the hydraulic tensioner or a rod but I do have a visible leak around the valve cover gasket on that same side as the timing belt. Anyways, gonna replace the timing belt and water pump right now because I'm overdue and hopefully that noise goes away. 😁🤞🏽
@jimmurphy5739
@jimmurphy5739 3 ай бұрын
I bought that crank holding special tool for my 2007 Odyssey about 10 years ago and thought to myself "Dang! There goes $30 I'll never use again." But here I am, looking at a 2016 Odyssey now, and I'm thinking, "Man! Am I ever smart!" When I bust that bolt loose this weekend, I'll have to make sure the wife hears me marvelling about how it really saved the day and avoided super costly problems this time around. Heh! Good luck. Never, ever keep a timing belt working past its service replacement point. Super expensive to clean up after it fails on these engines.
@AcuraAddicted
@AcuraAddicted 4 жыл бұрын
Did you... reuse the old hydraulic tensioner? :-O
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
That's correct.
@mrweisu
@mrweisu 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video showing replacing cam/crankshaft seals on J series engines? How often should they be replaced? Is there any chance that one might turn the pulleys while trying to remove the seals and mess up big time? Thanks.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't experienced Honda engines with worn out camshaft seals very much. Only did one a few month ago on a I4 F series.
@AcuraAddicted
@AcuraAddicted 4 жыл бұрын
Crankshaft seals should ideally be replaced along with re-sealing the oil pump at the time you are doing TB (because it has to be removed for that, along with the oil pan). As for camshaft seals, it is a universally accepted opinion among Honda specialists that you should not touch the old seals UNLESS they are leaking.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
Never encountered a worn out crankshaft seal on a Honda engine. Even with over 200k miles.
@everready19373
@everready19373 5 жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of marking the belt?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Helps to install the belt if you're not sure the belt is off a cog.
@AcuraAddicted
@AcuraAddicted 4 жыл бұрын
To make sure you install the new one exactly how the old one was. That way when all markings align, you have a peace of mind that the timing is correct. Usually done by DIYers as professionals do not mark the belts as they are doing hundreds of TB jobs and perfected it.
@ThePwak007
@ThePwak007 5 жыл бұрын
Will the kit work for a 2nd gen tl from 2002?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Nope. 2004 started a new design ... but I'll find a compatible kit for you.
@ThePwak007
@ThePwak007 5 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro aw shoot, should've waited for your response. I'll go cancel my amazon order haha
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Here's the link to the OEM Parts ... it fits the TL from 2000 to 2003: Aisin Water Pump, Mitsuboshi Timing Belt & believe Koyo Pulleys. These are all OEM Japanese parts ... just like the dealership: amzn.to/34nsrhB
@ThePwak007
@ThePwak007 5 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro you're the man! Thanks so much. Know any links for the cam and crank seals?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
If it were a Toyota, I'd recommend replacing the crank and cam seals. But on the Honda's I've worked on with high mileage, they don't seem to wear out and leak.
@GR8GUY54
@GR8GUY54 6 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing in so many ways!! You can truly tell and see your professionalism here as you work your way through all these parts. I found your channel and video as I am doing research now in hopes to understand what all I need for a 2012 Odyssey 100k maintenance. If possible, can you confirm what I am missing? Forgive me as I am unaware of the actual names. Timing belt Hydraulic tensioner Water pump Spark plugs Is there anything else I should consider while I am at? I plan to have this done locally and not at the dealer but would like to shop around for OEM parts where possible. I believe in paying for quality parts and labor, but $1900 out the door seems a bit high at the dealership. Thank you!
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late response ... missed your post. Idler pulley is missing but if you got a kit, it should be in there. If possible, you should shot of an OEM Aisin kit. They're high quality but expensive.
@AUDIOMIND
@AUDIOMIND 6 жыл бұрын
Why not drain the radiator before taking the water pump out? Also, is the process similar for a 2007 Pilot?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
Removing the water pump results in coolant coming out of the engine block. Draining the radiator does not remove coolant from the block. I only drain the radiator if the customer wants a complete coolant fluid exchange. Yes...the process is almost identical for a 2007 Pilot. The timing belt and pulley layout if virtually identical. Thanks for your question and good luck with the job!
@theodorekell
@theodorekell 6 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro you could drill a hole in the water pump and drain it cleanly :-)
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
Would not recommend it. Also, unless you have a right angle drill, how's there enough room to drill a hole? And after you drill the hole, how do you control the coolant flow?
@theodorekell
@theodorekell 6 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro Catching fluid is not an issue. if the hole is fairly small, just direct stream into a funnel with a hose attached. And when flow slow down, use rag between funnel and engine. On the new pump, can tread a new hole so, can drain "next time"
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
You can do what you want but I wouldn't. I bought a large plastic cement mix container at Home Depot to capture my coolant. Its both large and deep and can hold a lot of coolant. Cost me around $7.
@aaronshensky9385
@aaronshensky9385 6 жыл бұрын
Im buying a 2012-15 pilot soon. Few questions: is this an interference engine so if the belt breaks the engine gets damaged? If I attempt to do this job how long does it normally take 4-5hr? Out of 1-10 what level of difficulty would you say? Thanks for the video. I did 1 timing belt in my life on a 97 civic 1.6 yrs ago.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
The Pilot 3.5L engine is an interference engine. With no prior experience and you are just replacing the timing belt and pulleys, it should be about 5 to 6 hours. Add another hour for the water pump. If you take the parts off and put them in sequential order, have the tools, and follow the video it should be straightforward.
@aaronshensky9385
@aaronshensky9385 6 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro thank you
@kevinbyrd7010
@kevinbyrd7010 5 жыл бұрын
hello group, can anyone provide me the torque values on a 2011 Honda Pilot 3.5 engine for the installation of the water pump kit?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Make the 10 mm water pump mounting bolts hand tight using the 1/4" ratchet wrench. Using anything bigger might sear off the bolt heads.
@theodorekell
@theodorekell 6 жыл бұрын
For myself, I would install OEM timing belt. Hopefully made in Japan, not Mexico
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
The Japanese belt makers are Bando and Mitsuboshi ... although I have changed OEM belts on Honda's with the Gates logo on it. Continental is a good European brand. Korean TB kits are also pretty good. The good domestic belt makers are Dayco and Gates. I've seen Gates belts last over 100k miles. It's all about the belt installation. Unless the engine is designed with a dynamic belt tensioner, it can get a little tricky trying set the belt to the optimum tension. Too tight and the engine makes noise and stresses the idler and tensioner bearings; too loose and the belt slaps against the TB cover and could eventually snap over time.
@emmanuelcarrion5168
@emmanuelcarrion5168 5 жыл бұрын
Toyota timing belts jobs seem so much easier
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
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@clancularius84
@clancularius84 4 жыл бұрын
My water pump just went out and now I see what I have to do to fix it...... and I'm so screwed
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
Take it slow, step by step and you can do it yourself.
@clancularius84
@clancularius84 4 жыл бұрын
Considering that it will cost me at the minimum $430 for a shop to do it, I'm genuinely considering doing it myself. I just have to find someone who has the tools that is willing to help me out
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
@@clancularius84 Never seen a price quote of around $430. More like $800 to $1,200. If going through the trouble of replacing the pump, might as well replace the belt the pulleys.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 3 жыл бұрын
You're right. never seen a price quote of $430 ... especially on a V6.
@securityguy
@securityguy 5 жыл бұрын
Talk to Bundy's Garage, his Gates water pump failed on his 2003 TL, engine got out of time and bent the valves. Many reviews of leaking or failed Chinese Gates water pump on Amazon also. OEM pump should be used.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree which is why my preference is Aisin water pumps which is a OEM provider for Toyota and Honda. Also, what you think is a Gates water pump may not be Gates if purchased through Amazon. It appears that Amazon is a dumping ground for cheap Chinese knock offs that is extremely difficult to detect the difference. So I would not be too quick to assume Gates makes poor quality water pumps.
@sugargoldy
@sugargoldy 6 жыл бұрын
Good video thank you
@daniel.gthepainter1512
@daniel.gthepainter1512 5 жыл бұрын
How much was this job
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
On the internet, people are quoting prices that shops charge anywhere between $800 to $1200 +.
@brockdickens9387
@brockdickens9387 4 жыл бұрын
This should.be illegal how they make em like this
@chrismc410
@chrismc410 5 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why Honda insists on interference engines with rubber timing belts. Toyota has been making comparable engines that are non-interference, even with variable valve timing for years. As we all know, you break a timing belt with a non-interference engine, all it does is strand you. You get towed, you get a new one put on, set the engine timing, and you're back in business. An interference engine, it breaks, valves are bent and engine is destroyed. Surely Honda can design an build a non-interference engine.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Think the newer engines use chains. But the belt drive is both durable and reliable.
@AcuraAddicted
@AcuraAddicted 4 жыл бұрын
TB is cheaper and quieter. Toyota has also used TB in their V6 engines. As for non interference engine, it simply is not as effective and powerful as the V one.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
Also less centrifigal mass to rob horsepower
@WizzRacing
@WizzRacing 3 жыл бұрын
I went through 3 breaker bars..Before I got that socket. And still needed a torch to break that loctite....Honda must think that bolt is coming off with 200lbs applied
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you're talking about the harmonic balancer bolt?
@turbohokie1
@turbohokie1 6 жыл бұрын
My goodness you have to remove so many parts just for access it looks like a nightmare
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
As strange as it may sound, this is one of my easier repairs. Check out the Lexus RX300 Evaporator/Heater Core replacement. I think that may change your perspective.
@AfaanOromostock-
@AfaanOromostock- 4 жыл бұрын
Yup nightmare 🗡️🗡️ have to take apart entire engine just to get oil change.. bastard 🙈😭
@AcuraAddicted
@AcuraAddicted 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. But you only need to do it every 100K miles or 7 years, so not big of a deal.
@thomasstorrs6345
@thomasstorrs6345 5 жыл бұрын
Crank pulley nut 180 ftlbs.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
That's about right ... but takes more to get it off.
@automotiveperformancemobil4030
@automotiveperformancemobil4030 5 жыл бұрын
Ok people if you want to do the old school method to remove a pulley bolt, DO NOT be whoever was in that car and hold on the starter my goodness. You BUMP it. A few rapid quick bumps will release that bolt. Did it on my 04 Acura MDX, 4 quick semi- rapid bumps and came off like a charm. NEVER hold into the key like the way they did it. Surefire way to ruin a starter and possibly a flywheel.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
If you watched the whole video, I removed the pulley bolt with a high mass 19 mm Leslie impact socket with a powered impact tool. The bump start method of releasing crank pulley bolts on Honda's generally does not work. If it worked for you, consider yourself fortunate.
@nathangriffin2027
@nathangriffin2027 4 жыл бұрын
The Honda Pilot we have (2012), you don't have an opportunity to 'bump' the starter. When you twist the key to start, it decides how long the starter is spinning.
@jeffl1944
@jeffl1944 5 жыл бұрын
Lucky you didn’t break the starter
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
The starter gear is pretty tough. No longer have a need to do bump starts to get the pulley bolt off. My new Milwaukee M18 1/2" impact tool puts out over 1,200 lbs of torque and combined with the Leslie high mass impact socket, the pulley bolt spins right off!
@obadiah7771
@obadiah7771 6 жыл бұрын
Seems to me the hardest part of the job is getting the crank pulley off
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. Highly recommend you have a powered impact driver (air or electric) with a high mass 19 mm impact socket.
@obadiah7771
@obadiah7771 6 жыл бұрын
Hardly Moving Productions will do... what electric impact would you recommend?
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't do this type of work very often, get yourself an inexpensive a/c powered electric impact driver sold through Northern Tool or Harbor Freight. They cost between $50 to $100. I own Milwaukee 18v drivers ($300 +) because I get a lot of parts off cars at the salvage yard and there are no a/c power supplies to plug into.
@obadiah7771
@obadiah7771 6 жыл бұрын
Hardly Moving Productions I saw a kid use a harbor freight one for around 130 with the special socket... worked well... thanks for the tips!!! Merry Christmas 🎁
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
Hey that's great! That high mass impact socket is worth it! And Merry Christmas too you!
@meandmyself3007
@meandmyself3007 4 жыл бұрын
Your need a 19mm balancer socket, standard socket won't work.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct. At the 1:51 time mark I talk about using a high mass 19 mm impact socket to take off the harmonic balancer bolt. It has never let me down!
@rosendodominguez4576
@rosendodominguez4576 3 жыл бұрын
HOU MACH THES COSTS WED PARTS . AND LAVOR.GOOD JOb.
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 3 жыл бұрын
Between $900 - $1,800.
@danp7463
@danp7463 2 жыл бұрын
At 5:14 OUCH!!
@cmajic5968
@cmajic5968 Жыл бұрын
that crankshaft bolt is way to tight if you can get that bolt off honda why it makes no since took me all day to do timeing belt
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro Жыл бұрын
Know that feeling! That's why I use a high torque impact gun with a high mass impact socket like what I used in the video.
@AfaanOromostock-
@AfaanOromostock- 4 жыл бұрын
Yup nightmare 🗡️🗡️ have to take apart entire engine just to get oil change.. who ever design this bastards 🙈😭
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
Damn that crank bolt gave you hell! lol. I actually bought a 3/4" just because if this bolt! What a PITA! Here's the gun i use. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2GYZX98m6-gbLM
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 6 жыл бұрын
Saw the video. That guy really likes his Big Bertha air gun. The problem is, it's not portable. My Milwaukee puts out around 400 lbs of torque and combined with the 19 mm heavy mass socket, it did the trick.
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 6 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro that's awesome, I have to upgrade my electric impact. Right now I have a Kobalt. But it's not that great. and "that guy" is me! haha. Great video by the way!
@jacobgomez2682
@jacobgomez2682 5 жыл бұрын
Why mark the belt? If your marks are right you'll be fine, but good video
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
It's for the guys who've never done a timing belt replacement and aren't sure they have everything in alignment.
@jacobgomez2682
@jacobgomez2682 5 жыл бұрын
@@hardlymovingpro ya I hear you
@AcuraAddicted
@AcuraAddicted 4 жыл бұрын
That's simply additional peace of mind for a DIYer that the belt is installed correctly.
@reygonzales2603
@reygonzales2603 5 жыл бұрын
May have over torque it
@dnamtz5321
@dnamtz5321 2 жыл бұрын
i recently change my in a honda pilot 2011. i paid 1500
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 2 жыл бұрын
That's about right for a dealership price.
@victorm9283
@victorm9283 4 жыл бұрын
Word to the Wise: "Listen to what the Man Says." I've known "Mechanics" who are Stubborn, who will sit there all day, trying to Break Free That Honda Crank Bolt. And that Damn Bolt will not come Lose. Should you be lucky enough, to have a good Air Compressor, just buy the Lisle #77080 19 MM Harmonic Balancer Socket from Amazon.com for about $25 bucks/ shipped asap. (It will save Time and Headaches) Should you not have access to an Air Compressor or Air Impact, just go to your Nearest Home Depot and rent a Milwaukee 1/2 Drive 2767-20 M18 Fuel Impact Wrench. You'll been quicker. (Assuming, you have ordered the Lisle 19MM #77080 Socket. "Easy Peecy-Japanisee." Have a Nice day. 😊
@suhailahmed4449
@suhailahmed4449 5 жыл бұрын
No wonder pilot is not successfull coz its got tough maintenance
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 5 жыл бұрын
Not that much tougher than a Toyota.
@AcuraAddicted
@AcuraAddicted 4 жыл бұрын
LOL. This is a typical Honda V6 TB job that is applicable to hundred other cars as well, Honda and other V6s alike.
@jeffl1944
@jeffl1944 5 жыл бұрын
Day time
@mehrdadfakhimi8833
@mehrdadfakhimi8833 3 жыл бұрын
Not good Need more attention
@hardlymovingpro
@hardlymovingpro 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry you think so.
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