In the intro I say I’m talking about games with low review scores. I meant to say low amount of reviews but I misspoke I should also clarify on my comments on RPGMaker. It can definitely be used for really good games and the “it’s for babies first game” was more of a hyperbole than saying it can’t do a good game (still not a good way to describe it though). But I did misrepresent it in making it seem like the game was bad because it was made in RPG Maker, I just meant more like RPG Maker can be very limited so it’s harder to get something great with it
@MartiganzYT6 ай бұрын
No because that’s so relatable 💀
@BJGvideos6 ай бұрын
You also said in Rogue Legacy that you play as ancestors of your dead characters but no, you play as *descendants*. Your PRIOR characters are the ancestors.
@nondisclosureable6 ай бұрын
I think the big takeaway of RPGMaker is that it's a fairly solid system but it's heavily developed with one type of game in mind and tends to fall a bit flat if you try to make something a bit further out of the realm of that focus because it was designed with a limited set of mechanics to utilize.
@SpaceManRD6 ай бұрын
Funny, because that's really not how it came across. Admit you said something dumb and quit backpedaling.
@cogmouse6 ай бұрын
As an RPGMaker enthusiast, I have to point out that Harvest Island's UI is pretty heavily customized, lol. Like not that the default UI looks fantastic or anything but it's at least readable.
@PWPictures676 ай бұрын
0:00: Intro 0:42: 01. Cheaphaven 🦎 3:10: 02. Song Of The Prairie ♠ 7:01: 03. Bit Orchard: Animal Valley 🍎 10:23: 04. Tuttle: Star Flower Harvest 💮 12:54: 05. Harvest Island 🧭 21:01: 06. Goo Berries 🤖 23:48: 07. Farm For Your Life 🧟♂ 26:09: 08. Moondrop 🌕 30:01: Outro
@MaxH0ward6 ай бұрын
The part when you said "go out and play it maybe you will like it. I didnt but im not you" was so great and more reviewers need to take that mindset. So much of the internet acts like their take is absolute and if they dont like it noone can like it
@CatsandDragons76 ай бұрын
There are really good games made in RPG Maker. The issue is using the base tile sets etc and not doing something creative with it. OneShot was made with RPG Maker MV and it’s an incredible experience.
@Raven-20006 ай бұрын
There are quite a lot! OneShot, In Stars And Time, OMORI, OFF, Yume Nikki, Space Funeral, To The Moon & Finding Paradise, and LISA the Painful all come to mind
@apupthatdraws10016 ай бұрын
@@Raven-2000I had no idea stars in time was rpg maker!! It’s clear that the dev expanded on the base templates so much as something who struggled with it for an hour and then gave up due to no guides
@TheShakeship6 ай бұрын
Wasn't stardew valley made in that too?
@Raven-20006 ай бұрын
@@TheShakeship No, Stardew Valley has its own custom engine
@CatsandDragons76 ай бұрын
@@TheShakeship uhhh I think it was initially but the final version was not. But I could be wrong!
@ItsHammerTimex6 ай бұрын
I think its a little unfair to call rpg maker "not a real game engine". Your critiques of the game itself are totally fair, but I've played some incredibly great games made in rpg maker and some trash. Some of the greatest games of all time in the past were made with more restrictions than rpg maker.
@jesusramirezromo20376 ай бұрын
RPG maker is like Unity, It's an easily accessible engine, and easy to use, so a lot of people make their first game on it, flooding stores with cheap junk It however doesn't mean the engines are bad, great games have been made with them
@mdrdumbprivacysettings54736 ай бұрын
A lot of weird financial decisions on some of these games. Song of the Prairie's poor translation worries me when they've already committed English voice acting to it - I can't be hopeful they have any interest in fixing it up if they'd have to redo a bunch of voice over. Harvest Island is also interesting because I recall getting a lot of KZbin ads for it a few years ago - the frantic insecurity is probably because that developer sunk money into promoting it (which, considering the UI, was probably a bad idea). The last game looks pretty rad, though I hope the movement is less clunky than it looks in the video. Overall, this video was fun! I'd love to see more unnoticed games, regardless of quality. I also appreciate how you make sure to say "this isn't for me" instead of "this sucks", it's clear you have a lot of respect for all the developers.
@birdeynamnam6 ай бұрын
i havent checked, but it could be AI or text-to-speech
@Lunicia6 ай бұрын
I played it for 15 hours now and except for the tutorial nothing has an English dub. In fact, nobody is "talking" after that, they are just making sounds to express their emotions. I have to say though that the game is really enjoyable despite their translation issues. It's rather hilarious sometimes but I don't regret buying it until now 😄
@therexdragonblade68216 ай бұрын
the way i instantly clocked that one game as an RPGmaker title when i saw the save file screen. my 100s of videos watched in my teen years on weird little horror titles made in the engine werent totally a waste. almost aspirational in a way, that they chose such an ill fitting genre (farmsim) for the engine and tried to make it work but you know what they say about square pegs and round holes.
@Rynewulf6 ай бұрын
its definitely interesting, I always thought it would be good platform for farm sims. I've definitely played good variety of game genres in rpg maker but maybe I've just stuck to the most top tier few bits and thats skewed my idea of it
@joshelison6 ай бұрын
honestly, I'm sold on the lizard one! thanks for a suggestion
@quantafreeze6 ай бұрын
That lizard run animation 😂😂😂
@Cliff_Edges6 ай бұрын
in stars and time was made with rpg maker and its pretty good. it has overwhelming positive reviews and came out around the same time as harvest island
@joaopedrochicre48096 ай бұрын
Older farming games could be fairly complex actually. That orchard game seems to be taking inspiration from GB Harvest moon? Which was very simple but that was an outlier on the older harvest moon games.
@Thedarkbunnyrabbit6 ай бұрын
Mistfall is interesting. I like the idea of a non-violent, non-frustrating roguelike game, and mixing roguelike with farming seems like an interesting way to do that. I had a game idea where I was going to do that myself, but I realized as I was building it that I just couldn't make the roguelike aspect any fun.
@gingivitis91485 ай бұрын
Rogue like farming makes alot of sense to me weirdly. the original concept for harvest moon was meant to have the player die at the end of the year, making the death part of the game play loop makes sense.
@tazmingetgood2806 ай бұрын
I enjoy Iron pinapples souls like series, I think I would love if you were able to make a series for this (or maybe just a couple more!). I don't think I could be bothered with bit orchid, it's okay if the game wants you to figure out some stuff on your own but normally there is an insentive to do so...
@kizuowen6 ай бұрын
song of the prairie looks so much like a genshin clone with zepeto avatars 😭
@BlathersIsAHoot6 ай бұрын
I would enjoy more of these videos, series pls! 😊
@okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy6 ай бұрын
I love finding indie games, I don't care if somethings a little rough around the edges if they've got really unique ideas and/or a lot of personality. I'd love to see you do another one of these if you're up to it!
@jemangel926 ай бұрын
Def agree that the zombie one should be revisited in some way! That sounds like an interesting concept minus the restaurant management stuff. And i would for sure love to see more of this! When so many farming games are coming out all the time im sure a lot fall through the cracks.
@JAEKHOB6 ай бұрын
14:28 “Babies first try at making a game not a 30 hour experience” Some games made in rpg maker: -omori -one shot -to the moon -lisa the painful The engine can be very in depth if you want it to be, just like literally any other game engine (not that you consider rpg maker a “real one”). Just because some rpg maker games arent great doesnt mean the entire engine is bad. Also, the menu is pretty custom in that game and it would take some skill and knowledge to execute it (its not good by any means, it looks horrible to use tbh but just pointing that out). Its just a tired point of “rpg maker game bad” like ya the game looks bad, but thats not because of the engine.
@crypticcalypte6 ай бұрын
this. the game engine you use doesnt matter, just what your skill is in the engine; the fact this guy isnt a programmer probably contributes to this unfortunately :( ib, iirc, is a great rpg maker game, same with OFF. unreal has made complete and utter trash while also being practically industry standard by now hopefully he keeps this in mind for future videos; i liked everything else he said, and his general attitude is a breath of fresh air, but the... game engine elitism? kinda threw me for a loop :/
@bellarmire6 ай бұрын
I think the best place to pick up these obscure little games is in Itch bundles. The other day I remembered I bought the bundle for racial justice years ago, and decided to look through the contents besides the big ones like Celeste and Night in the Woods and found Verdant Skies. The actual farming and story is pretty rudimentary (and it's kinda ugly imo) but there's an interesting cast with some surprisingly compelling character writing at points. Farming sims are so common these days but there's something about how the Harvest Moon format naturally enables people to create a community for the player to interact with that can really make or break these games. It's why I didn't click with My Time At Portia, even though it has more content - the cast is overstuffed with flat characters, and only one or two of them have actual storylines.
@_Cursed_Queen_6 ай бұрын
I’ve read a ton of bad machine translated Chinese novels so I’ll probably do fine mentally translating the bad English into something legible for song of the prairie lol
@jademonass29546 ай бұрын
The cheaphaven lizard on the thumbnail made me click on this video, absolutely a gem of a game its so cute! glad i 100%'d it also, OML TUTTLE!! i love this game SO much, it instantly became one of my favorite games of all time
@chargenari6 ай бұрын
Cool idea! I'd love more videos like this :) Oh and also, there's a lot of really good and cool games made with rpg maker, it just isn't the right game engine for every type of game. So in case of harvest island i think the problem was solely with the dev, they made a terrible choice of game engine for the type of game they wanted to make and they're probably very inexperienced
@thegigachad50386 ай бұрын
Listening to the description of farm for your life (Missing a chapter btw), I can't help but think of overcooked 2, which has modes that are pretty much exactly this. Run a restaurant, feed zombies to keep them from breaking in, it's just missing the actual farming part, which it seems like ffyl did anyway. Always like more content on lesser known games, but I'll comment on the comparison to ironpineapple's content: A lot of the appeal there is about watching those live reactions to the first few minutes of the games. Part of that is because souls-likes are pretty heavily based on just gamefeel, so he can give some impressions the moment he takes his first few steps and does the first dodge roll, then go along as he figures things out and understands how it fits together. That's something that's way harder to do in farming games, because they usually start with a sizeable tutorial which often isn't too entertaining to watch, and then take a few days to get a feel for, which is also tough to sell. Could manage it, but it'd be a lot of editing game footage to get those initial impressions. Another big point is the breadth and consistency of the genre. There's a lot of soulslikes, and some pretty clear criteria for what's soulslike and what's stretching it. Farming games, much less so. Sure there's criteria, but the games vary so widely there's often just no real common ground to compare on. And finally, while I love the positivity, a good chunk of the fun of those videos is seeing some of the worst the market has to offer, cash grabs, student projects, intentionally bad games, and so on. The issue with farming games is that almost always, the highest reasonable criticism is "Yeah it's not for me, but someone probably loves it." And that positivity means a lot more when directed at something like a student project where they tried hard. I feel like the formula might be a lot more successful with survival crafting games. They're popular, there's tons of almost never played ones, the label often includes farming games, there's clear ideas of what one is, the first few moments are usually interesting enough to watch and have commonalities (Punch a tree to get wood, like lizzer game), and there's a wide variety of quality and intents behind the games, so room to insert some stinkers. Subbed either way, looking forward to more.
@wronghandlane96656 ай бұрын
Would love more vids like this across various genres! especially cozy games!
@lunar_storm086 ай бұрын
When you mentioned rogue-like I immediately had to check if you've ever played Moonlighter- it's not a farming sim, but rather a business management and it's got the same kind of vibe as Moondrop, imo. As someone whose not a big rogue-like game player, it was still really fun and rewarding and now I'd love to see your opinion on it! I know they just put out an update (or it's updating soon, my memory is pretty poor) so it's definitely got active development and players even though I haven't seem a whole lot of people talk about it. It's a few years old, which may be the reason, but I still think it's really fun!
@chenwingsee5 ай бұрын
If you like moonlighter, give recettear a try! It's less heavy on the combat which is admittedly a little janky but it's an old game with a lot of charm and I still liked a lot more than moonlighter.
@lunar_storm085 ай бұрын
@@chenwingsee Thank you so much for the recommendation!! I'll definitely be checking it out!! Just added it to my steam wish list and am excited to purchase it after payday!
@crabaddy5 ай бұрын
i would love a sequel to this video! i like getting in depth recommendations like this
@mattwcook91276 ай бұрын
Please don't dunk on RPG Maker, you can do incredible things with it. This game is just poor on its own
@pitalovr6 ай бұрын
Haircut looks great bro
@ladycenobia51475 ай бұрын
I love farming sims and Song of the Prarie is one of my favorites by far. I think I've got about 60 hours in it so far. I agree about the translation being rough sometimes. But I also play a lot of visual novels, so I think I'm used to having to deal with poor translations at times. I'm surprised you didn't bring up one of the unique features tho. I don't remember the name of the mechanic but it's where you go into their mind and you have figure out what's going on with them and how to help. You not only get to learn each NPCs story, you can get clothing and accessories from it to. I think SotP is a gem that just needs a little more polish. Loved the video, always happy to learn about other farming games I haven't tried yet.
@UltimatePerfection6 ай бұрын
There are too many farming games that don't involve dragons. In fact I am not aware of any farming games that involve dragons.
@chenwingsee5 ай бұрын
Sun haven has dragons! It's pretty good, I really need to get back to it.
@renharris65045 ай бұрын
Don’t forget Rune Factory
@spiralnebulae6 ай бұрын
i loveeee videos like this!! you should def continue, with not just farming games, but any genre youre interested in!
@Lockleth6 ай бұрын
I spent $2 on Animal Valley and it was worth it to me lol.
@EGIMSL6 ай бұрын
Bro. God tier farming rogue like: Atomicrops. Look it up
@LightsAnon5 ай бұрын
Big agree, Atomicrops is THE farming roguelike. I highly recommend it. That said I think I'll check out the one in this video too.
@SylvesterAshcroft885 ай бұрын
I hope this goes viral, this seems like a great idea for a video!
@StorybooksInn6 ай бұрын
i love that youre honest about your feelings!!
@imannatasha33026 ай бұрын
I love these types of videos from you
@loyalretainer6 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video! There are so many indie farming-adjacent games nowadays that it can be hard to find more info about them before purchasing, and I appreciate the in-depth look you gave to each of the titles here
@FruitOfTheFold6 ай бұрын
10:20 i played sprout valley ( demo ) for a little and it seems like a fun game
@jordynreber70846 ай бұрын
You’re a cool dude. Love the way you edit the videos.
@emanuel36176 ай бұрын
Already huge respect for putting the mic on a stand
@sunfastrose6 ай бұрын
That first game looks so mellow, I love it
@alexamorenodelucio84846 ай бұрын
I love this concept, i would love to see more. Thank you!!🍓
@ZazaLoveism6 ай бұрын
I love song of the Prairie, but you did mention a few games I had never heard of so kudos.
@FlashBangBANGz6 ай бұрын
6:27 Maybe it's meant to say "Actually, just now I was thinking about how kind you are and then suddenly, you appeared. Speak of the devil."
@davidstickney88655 ай бұрын
Anyone looking for another fun farming game I have loved my time playing Ooblets. It has card fight mechanics with creature capture and farming.
@TheaArtsFox5 ай бұрын
good. is inspiring see people giving a chance to small games that may be hidden gems, or if are crap, at least get more feedback with constructive advices and reviews. ya know, a game dev can not improve their game is people only comment " This game is worst than an hemorroid while you sit in a leather chair in the summer"
@jazzpear88776 ай бұрын
Look I love farming games, I love them, and I love a lot of the creativity and blending with other genres that a lot of them do… I feel like there’s so much potential there, but it’s a shame that most of them don’t go outside the box very much…
@totallyahuman44976 ай бұрын
0:46 this is all I aspire to be in life, that is the face of pure happiness (or shrooms) also that harvest moon reference at 2:35 got me dying
@kyoyo93506 ай бұрын
Idk why you had to make a weird tangent about RPGmaker Tho? It comes off as insulting to devs that use it with the baby comment. It's a tool like any other and great for those that work with the program and within its limitations. Off, Yume nikki, and Oneshot are some games made in rpgmaker that were pretty popular and loved
@MichaelKocha6 ай бұрын
1. Great video. Hope to see more like this. 2. I immediately thought you were Michael Bohn and subsequently was very confused.
@melbapeach1626 ай бұрын
Great format! ❤
@FeatheredCreature5 ай бұрын
If they add more stuff to that gooberries game id totally check it out it looks super interesting
@Firestar-TV6 ай бұрын
I want a Morrowind Farm Game with Argonians and Khajiit as Farm Tools😆
@SylvesterAshcroft885 ай бұрын
The series of games by Freebird games all used RPG Maker, and they implemented mechanics which aren't commonly seen in the engine, they were also developed by one person, so using RPG Maker isn't nessacerily an excuse for poor ui design, it may just be due to inexperience with game development in general, as it comes across as being very amateur in terms of the game's design in general, as even games like Hyper Light Drifter use Gamemaker, which is incredibly rudimentary compared to godot etc.
@meredithcastro78696 ай бұрын
Song of the prairie reminds me of my time at portia, very cute style
@rebelscum22686 ай бұрын
Maggie with the cameo
@mermermerk6 ай бұрын
the first one really reminds me of dinkum!
@yaelbunny2.06 ай бұрын
Why is your inflection so unique
@rayne34206 ай бұрын
hi!! first time watcher--- i really enjoyed this video and would love to see you do more on small games like this!!
@scarfguy53375 ай бұрын
You're wrong about rpg maker though. It's not just baby's first game engine, it's just tools. Plenty of devs have made world-class games with rpg maker. Look at undertale.
@lunasun17386 ай бұрын
This video would be much better without the sudden insults thrown towards devs who use RPGmakers?? It's an engine like any other engine, you can code whatever you want into it and just disregard the templates provided. Good video, except for that segment.
@kooriicolada6 ай бұрын
Honestly, at the beginning of the section for Farm for you Life I thought the gameplay loop was going to be that you lure the zombies into the restaurant and feed them and that's how you keep the place safe. honestly kinda disappointed...
@lesliepicard5766 ай бұрын
I think you’d really like Atomicrops :)
@henlex64246 ай бұрын
Great vid
@dndndndndn4196 ай бұрын
I’ve never heard of these, how did you know? 😭
@wronghandlane96656 ай бұрын
I would buy the lizard one just to see his walk
@teaparties6 ай бұрын
hey you are a good youtuber
@robotdeer6 ай бұрын
Oh weird that second game looks like it is using the same engine as Dragon Nest
@goatloops6 ай бұрын
I can't unsee it now haha
@Neuromancerism5 ай бұрын
Its weird that you describe a "rougelike" specifically by a feature which makes it cease to be a rougelike.That being progress after death outside of a better understanding of the game (mind, just the mechanics, you wont know how the world looks because that was so random it could be straight up impossible if no path generated in a way that you could use with available materials) That would turn it into a rougelite. Not that there is anything wrong with either. Regarding Rouge Legacy btw, obviously you play as descendent, not ancestor, how would your ancestors have had access to wealth you will in the future have earned? ;)
@SpecialInterestShow5 ай бұрын
Are the clothes still gender-locked in song of the prairie?
@maric15405 ай бұрын
For the last game, one game did it in my opinion much better, it is Atomic corps. It is rouge like farming game that is hard fast passed farming shooter rouglike with a lot of plants, guns, characters bosses etc..
@slugmanestudios7685 ай бұрын
Awesome
@DrHojo1235 ай бұрын
I disagree about the RPG Maker thing I've seen lots of game made with it that is amazing with it.
@ceaslug97916 ай бұрын
K y n s e e d
@anitacrumbly6 ай бұрын
best game!
@danita1226 ай бұрын
markiplier at home:
@yournamehere1006 ай бұрын
yes, please add gambling to this game that is obviously for kids 💀
@skage14916 ай бұрын
Goobers :)
@retro59456 ай бұрын
I like these types of videos, but you should give credit to IronPinapple. Hes a beast and deserves recognition. I do like your content though, keep it up!
@miles24194 ай бұрын
Are you Timmy or are you Tommy >:(
@crustbread55046 ай бұрын
thanks. whatever. you know the comment
@aa-tx7th6 ай бұрын
pro tip: if a part of your script has you saying "wHat Im TRyiNg tO sAy iS" uh. cut it out?????? cut that out of the vid. meadering worthless rambling irrelevant tangents are ALL idiotic, unfunny, cliche, and really f@%king annoying
@AEL0NA_6 ай бұрын
pro tip: if you don't like the video, uh. just don't watch it??????
@liamfitzgerald14006 ай бұрын
If you feel you have a valid criticism, such as "your script-writing could be more concise", heaping all of this smug derision onto your recommendation and calling the subject idiotic is probably not going to make them want to value your opinion.
@chariotmoon6 ай бұрын
pro tip: get the stick out of your ass
@melleloaf6 ай бұрын
Pro tip: Don't be an absolute dick when giving criticism, makes you look like a mean asshole
@stormveradea6 ай бұрын
Pro tip: this comment is meandering, worthless, irrelevant, idiotic, unfunny, cliche, and overall just really f**king annoying.