Grumpy Old Men - Steve is alive and well! Farangs and Thais as friends? May 21

[@mikeh9956]

The look on Tim's face as Steve rambles is worth the price of admission alone.

[@billloobyThailand]

Well, I am certainly glad you are still with us Steve.

[@steverosse]

Me too, Bill. Thanks.

[@MisterPhat]

Yeah this is definitely what you can literally call "past the expiration date" 😁

[@Kenjikah]

He may just out live us all, Bill.

[@jaynelund]

The best show yet! Great to hear insights into relationships, getting older, comparative humours, and the Thai film industry. Brilliant example of the intercultural learning that you have accumulated and are happy to share. Doesn’t need to have everyone agree but definitely worth listening too!!! Thank you Tim and Steve!!!

[@KritsadaPiriyakitpaiboon]

The Thai movie You&Me&Me's lead twins were actually played by a single actress. :) It was her debut movie. She was new to acting but she did really well.

[@steverosse]

You're right! They had me fooled.

[@thanaang1455]

I like listening both of you during routine work.

[@timnewtontoday]

Very good as a sedative as well we are told

[@thanaang1455]

@@timnewtontoday Kind of 🤣😂

[@ersinhuseyin2731]

Fantastic once again both of you, such class act, you two are become addictive 😊

[@TeddyBear-zj4qg]

Steve's points on reason to the extended family system in Asia and Thai humor is spot on. As for British and American humor, British humor for me anytime. US humor is boring. Humor with sarcasms is what I enjoy most. Mind you I am from Sri Lanka (Asia).

[@user-zl8wq1su2z]

You guys are just too much. Such great interaction. Tim makes such a great foil.

[@oywatters9415]

My Sunday morning is complete. Many thanks to you both 🙏 Brilliant 😅 Incidentally, I've been with my Irish husband 48 years, mixed marriage works, just don't hold the rope too tightly!! 👍

[@billkonechny6919]

You two are the GREATEST!! Please keep them coming. Love U guys!!

[@tomgolz]

I spill my coffee all over the keyboard with the banter between you two! Love the show, always a joy to watch, please make longer episodes!

[@steverosse]

Thanks, Tom.

[@shuttlemanjack]

You two are the best part of my week. Please keep it up.

[@steverosse]

Thank you, Jack.

[@mangostickyrice555]

Two Thumbs Up 👍👍Tim & Steve

[@steverosse]

Thanks, MSR.

[@kensanders0088]

Hey Steve, more power to 😊 you for another 35 years. !!! You can do it !!

[@steverosse]

Thank you, Ken. Back at you.

[@kerrysum1952]

My favorite show of the week. Steve really says what it is about Thailand. I do not care what part of Thailand you go to, each is unique in their ways.

[@JohnWilson-gj7wj]

Congratulations to you Steve on reaching your first anniversary in Turtle Beach without pegging it 🤣. Please keep doing what you are doing for as long as you feel able. Maybe you made some bad work/life choices in the past but boy you have certainly found your niche occupation now. 😛

[@steverosse]

Thanks, John.

[@KenArmitage]

Great episode again! Interesting discussion. Good to see you are still alive and kicking Steve, and hope that you are around for many years to come.

[@steverosse]

Me too. Thanks, Ken.

[@agoodlife2]

Congratulations 🎉 He’s alive!🎉

[@steverosse]

You call this livin,?

[@gavins-cool]

I thoroughly enjoy the dynamic between you two guys. Comedy is in my opinion not only about the joke but the timing and Tim you are great with yours. You remind me somewhat of Australian comic duo Hamish and Andy, of whose work Tim will know. I think also that the filming of the proposed road trip through Vietnam could end up like a twisted version of Jack Whitehalls "Travels with My Father".

[@KT-ck3hl]

Yay.. Steve lives! ♥

[@steverosse]

Whew, right?

[@O._Si]

The silver haired wise one has much to teach. May he live long, healthily and happily.

[@steverosse]

Thank you, Grasshopper.

[@leotolstoy1671]

I’m very happy that he is still going and is looking much healthier and happier than on his arrival. I have just spent from Sunday to today watching his videos, I hope to visit at the end of September.

[@brettborder]

Tim - I originally subscribed to your channel strictly for the news; however, I have found a gem in yours and Steve's "Grumpy Old Men" piece - too funny and entertaining - I was hooked after viewing the "maid" story. I am now going back and watching the previous posts. It reminds me of a lighter version of Peter Cook and Dudley Moore (minus the booze - which will assuredly help the continuation - lol). Love the rapport gentlemen!

[@timnewtontoday]

Thanks for the lovely message

[@rossjurecka5372]

😂 Funny , keep on living Steve , we would miss you ! ❤

[@steverosse]

Thank you, Ross.

[@GarNelson1]

My own opinion on Q1 is that if you are basing your Thai / Western friendship on Western expectations you will be disappointed. I think if you can modify your expectations with some understanding of Thai expectations that a friendship is possible, so long as both parties actively want the friendship. My limited observation is that when you go to a foreign land and expect things to be the same as the place you left, whatever you are trying to do is doomed to failure.

[@fhorst02]

Yes, sadly not everyone takes the time to learn about the culture of the land they are moving to. And be honest.. Most friendships in the west are "transactional" also. As soon as one party stops wanting actively to have the friendship... It dies. When it comes down to it... They didn't get wat they wanted out if the friendship.. Transactional. Thais are just more open about it. And more abrupt When a friendship stops having benefits, they soldom look back and contact "he how are you doing".. One day best friends, next day strangers. Without hard feelings. Just the way it goes.

[@mickbishop5465]

Just love this show guys ,cracks me up keep it going long live Steve 😁👍

[@steverosse]

Thanks, Mick.

[@davidmanley9002]

Catch up when back in UK, no time now. Grumpy Old Men rock!!@

[@neildutton8077]

Asian humour is more Benny Hill than Jerry Seinfeld.

[@marcallen9798]

Benny Hill is a great example. I'd add Mr Bean & the Three Stooges, too.

[@ScooterOnHisWay2024]

You guys are hilarious. And occasionally some really good info is shared too!

[@vassanaresidencephuket6179]

WOW Steve can TALK 😅

[@andrewoakley4957]

How can you have over 52 thousand views and only 651 likes just amazes me! I laughed out loud several times this week and I have so many things that I want to comment on that its all a big jumble falling over each other 😂. Okay, here's one, thai humour is very visual and simplistic and my wife has learnt the sarcastic humour a little and loves to do the ' empty plate-no sorry I just couldn't eat it ' joke with staff in the UK 😊.

[@andrewoakley4957]

Ah, bugger, there goes my eyesight 😅. Obviously I meant over 5 thousand views! I blame the fact that when I begin to comment, it covers that information so, I can't refer to it again without losing the video usually. Doh!

[@charleskuneff2073]

Steve Rosse! So happy to see you still here keep talking. Keep the trolls happy. For another 20 years. Can’t wait to one day visit boon bar!

[@steverosse]

Thank you, Charles.

[@Judith3544]

I’ve managed to get my Thai wife to like and engage in sarcasm… it took a while but she enjoys it now when I describe her cooking as “horrible!”

[@ScottieGMusic]

My Girlfriend is Thai (Not a bar girl) I met a few of her friends and I have to say they are great people and I miss them. They never expected anything from me, it was a blast hanging out with them. Could be generational we're all in our 20's and 30's

[@adrianvaughan3288]

Another great Grumpy Old Men :-)

[@timnewtontoday]

Thank you SO much for your kindness

[@beerdrinker6452]

I believe the question about Thai/foreigner and foreigner/foreigner friendship related to economic disparity between Thai/foreigner. It might be easier for foreign/foreign to be friends if they do not need each other economically.

[@Stevo8013]

You two are absolutely brilliant 🤣🤣

[@steverosse]

Thanks, Steven.

[@tomofnorthcal]

My favorite Grumpy Old Men video so far. I also worked in film years ago in the SFBay area of California. I was a grip, PA, Cam assistant, 1st & 2nd assistant director, and a co-director. But made no money. All films were indie films. Only made money on an Oakland rapper video which was a lot of fun.

[@jimcraiggeezer]

Another interesting chin wag.. I first went to Phuket in the early 90s.. so different than nowadays..it was a lovely place.. I can remember that the only ATM was on patong..only time I visited that place..kata and naiharn were idyllic. As for humour..my wife and I, who is Thai do struggle sometimes with the sarcasm.. I'm from the UK and lived in Australia for 20 years.. but, we're getting there... hopefully.

[@MrMike-zm8ex]

Are there any normal well adjusted expats in Thailand?

[@steverosse]

Define "normal."

[@emanggitulah4319]

A rarity, but yes there are

[@ikiosan1]

Guys be careful about what you write here, they deleted one of my replies after steve himself tried to come at me with some passive-aggressive nonsense. Nothing offensive or rude in my reply, so I'm really disappointed. I thought these guys were all for open debate and even criticism, but alas that's not the case.

[@steverosse]

Huh? When did this happen? Last thing I remember saying to you was that my son loved Ikkyu-san when he was small.

[@timnewtontoday]

Your comment has not been deleted.

[@ikiosan1]

@@steverosse yes and I wrote a lengthy reply and went back because English isn't my first language and I always re-check to fix spelling etc but when I tried to go to my reply it said something about the post couldn't be reached and when I restarted insta and back it was gone so if it was not you guys I guess it was Instagram even though I find that kinda hard to believe.. 🤷🏽 Anyway..

[@ikiosan1]

@@timnewtontoday okay if you say so 🤷🏽

[@whoopigoldberg5871]

Yes, all my comments were deleted also. But are you really surprised? Gee, I wonder who would do such a thing? ha, ha, ha, delete, delete.

[@spizzenergi2292]

A relief for us that enjoy your content Steve.

[@steverosse]

Thanks, Spizz.

[@sleevelessinsiam1285]

Time to buy a stand alone tripod for the camera

[@steverosse]

I think you're probably right. I have a lot of nervous energy and it transmits to the furniture.

[@jonah1234567891]

Brilliant explanations so true, this show is addictive Steve is a showstopper long may it continue

[@skyfarmorganics]

I love sarcasm too and I was determined to introduce it to my partners family. It took a while but now they get it completely. Great show guys.... you're a perfect double act.

[@steverosse]

Thanks, Duncan.

[@MrUled]

As much as I hate to say it, having worked in Thailand for 3 years (and Vietnam for 3),I think Steve is right. All relationships are transactional and as soon as something changes in your circumstances (Eg job change) suddenly those people won't as much as give you the time of day. Likewise the farang-farang friendships indeed. Just as transactional if not more so as its hard to make a living out here. Most of the time expats here are a group of misfits with no similar backgrounds or interests, save for being expats. Truly hard to make meaningful friendships with both groups

[@martypoll]

I would take transactional relationships further and claim that that is how relationships work in our western home countries as well. Westerners just refuse to see it that way. Asians openly accept transactions as ways to bond and earn trust. I’ve also made good western friends here precisely because we share the expat experience. Having a common experience is a good way to launch a friendship. As a bonus, we tend to not care about or address the divisive issues in our home countries. I’ve met friends here I would never have crossed paths with otherwise.

[@MrUled]

@@martypoll it's true that it can indeed go both ways. As for back home, I have plenty of friends who have nothing to gain or transact with me on. Those are the friendships I refer to. Of course there are always acquaintances, work friends that would more easily fall into the transactional bucket. The former though I have personally rarely encountered in Asia, but ymmv

[@PeterEdwards45]

A fabulous program ,Tim and Steve ,Thanks to the whole Team (sarcasm)

[@steverosse]

Thank you, Peter.

[@piotrg8593]

Thank you Tim and Steve.)

[@brianstreet5223]

superb listening cheers

[@ednamaegrimmett-green]

Hi From QLD ,Australia Thank you both for brightening my Saturday, 🤗☺️

[@rossjurecka5372]

It's Sunday 😅

[@ednamaegrimmett-green]

I have Thai friends since 1976 sh, We all met young before Marriages , Children , now we are Grand and grt Grandparents together , Thai Friends are Friends for Life , I AM TRULY BLESSED 💜🙏💜

[@robertwilson491]

Love the bromance. Keep the non sequiturs flowing.

[@senianns9522]

Both of my Thai kids, 24 and 26 have advised me of 'double meaning questions', 'sarcastic wit when relating similar scenarios' and referring to animals when criticizing human actions! Example: Quote: 'The stupid buffalo absolutely hates having the farmer put a ring through its nose !--- referring to body piercings, nose jobs and tattoos!

[@Papillion-Man]

Steve, I totally get that thing about trying to type when replying to a tw@t. I thought it was only me, so good to hear I not the only shaky old bugger 👍

[@CKology]

so agreed with the transactional argument 🏧 , it's so in grain in our culture.

[@andrewrenaud3039]

Hi Tim, Good on you, that Anmerican geezer is really hard work to listen to.!

[@markbeanland]

Well you have done it again Tim and Steve 😂 Ps glad to see Steve is still here

[@steverosse]

Me too!

[@mk-lu5nc]

As a Thai,Farang does not have a derogatory connotation, but Farang-keenok does have.

[@jetta98]

This was a good watch🤙🏾

[@Databhoy]

This pairing really works well - I really look forward to your chats. One thing has occurred to me looking at many Thai expat vlogs - moving to SE Asia seems to be an exclusively male activity. Have either of you encountered female solo expats in your time there? BTW I think you inadvertently gave your brand “Grumpy Old Men” a slogan - “We digress!”

[@richardwolter2368]

I liked the "arshole" category, which you had pointed out so nicely, dear Tim. I was immediately on the floor 😍😍😍

[@NomenNescio99]

Coffee and grumpy men is such a wonderful way to start the the Sunday, this is the show I will not skip on the TNT channel. Although I probably wouldn't eat Steve's brownies, that could probably end badly, I did that brownie mistake once when I was in Amsterdam.

[@davidrucker1000]

Two things. (1) The XX200 device purchased from a British company that was an empty black box had a unique marketing policy. My numbers may be off but you can get the drift. Cost to buy was 1000 monetary units and company agreed to rebate purchaser 600 units so every corrupt official was glad to sign purchase order. A USN entity had tested the product soon after it entered market and confirmed it's lack of ability to doing anything. (2) The lease you are trying to obtain signatures from multiple family members for your new project has potential for pitfalls. Five years ago a well heeled individual had money to buy and construct a grass strip airfield in Chalong. Same thing with too many people needed to be paid. Never got off the ground. You may want to obtain services of Thai national to negotiate but I will be surprised you can convince an elderly Thai to sign off even if you agree not to sell booze in your restaurant/cafe/nightclub.

[@donnatalley144]

Congratulations Steve! Can’t wait to meet you!

[@steverosse]

Thank you, Donna.

[@WanderingWolf365]

Very interesting conversation.... I very much enjoy your guest's insights and agree with many of his points! - WW

[@aircraft1974]

Cheers for the laugh(s)...God knows how much I miss the simple life in Thailand.

[@SH-lu4co]

Another fantastic show thank you very funny after a beer or 2. 😅 Also very educational re transactional relationships ie rice growing really good to learn 😊

[@TonyFossey889]

Great Show Boys...Love it and as always very Funny....🤣🤣.

[@asia-focus]

These guys are great. Significant hair difference

[@pat_thai]

G’day Khun Tim & Khun Steve ! Your worldly KZbin is getting funnier & funnier ja ❤ I may turn up as a Drag Queen , will I be charged 20 bahts since I’m Thai and how much more for a drag queen ? ❤😂 Always enjoy watching you guys ! Farang to me means “ foreigner “ ! No offense ! As an ex flight attendant flying to USA an old pax called me a “ Spic “ ( Latino ) and having grown up in oz I was called “ Ching Chong Chinaman “ !!! While flying to Africa we cannot say “ BLACK “ coffee !!! Lol😂

[@Th-vy8ut]

Steve for president

[@steverosse]

I'm retired. No more working for me.

[@MrGgkirke]

Very informative and the B girls still love to gamble but it is nice to hear that Steve hates Phuket I have always loved Krabi far away from the maddening crowd . A great pair of commentaries

[@nongwuaso9639]

Morning Tim and Steve enjoy this show toooo

[@schmooxx1x]

For the first 22 minutes, all I could focus on was the lack of duck. Thankfully rectified. Now I can a wonderful Sunday morning. Thanks guys.

[@piotrg8593]

14:24 Yes, we want to hear the whole story !)) Just to heat Steve talking history. Needed stuff for a better awareness) Thank you both for the program.

[@stephenrichter62]

Glad Steve made it past May.

[@steverosse]

Me too.

[@donnyohable]

Enjoyed your comments regarding the asian rice culture and the reciprocating obligations that each party incures. I'm always interested in observations that shed light on the nuances of the Thai culture.

[@steverosse]

I'm always happy to lecture.

[@D.Appeltofft]

I think that's very accurate. We're just as dependent on each other in the west - maybe more, considering our extensive division of labour. We just don't celebrate it. Maybe we should.

[@jimmyyoutube]

Godfather 2

[@steverosse]

Nailed it.

[@AnuchaFarm]

We lived on a yacht for 6 years between Phuket and Langkawi. My experience was the Thai’s that we met were the most sarcastic people on the planet. Hailing from Sydney I felt right at home…

[@guyh9992]

The Midwich Cuckoos by John Wyndham. For a second, I thought Steve was nominating The Revenge of the Nerds II as a sequel better than the original.

[@steverosse]

Yeah, I misspoke. Good spot. Thanks.

[@steverosse]

@@mythai05 Yeah. Nobody questioned the Great Man. Can you imagine sinking millions into a project and not performing the most logical first step?

[@steverosse]

@@mythai05 Well, they would have to do a little more than just tack on a credit. I mean, they could have done that as soon as they found out their mistake. What they needed to do was ask permission from Wyndham's estate to use the story, and likely the rights to "Cuckoos" were already owned by some studio. It would have cost them more to own the story than they spent on making the movie. They had painted themselves into a real corner.

[@guyh9992]

@@steverosse I remember watching the original version on TV as a kid in the 70s. Did the kids in the Thai version all have similar features with blonde hair too?

[@steverosse]

@@guyh9992 It's been thirty-five years, Guy, so I can't tell ya.

[@TRIPONTHIS]

weather is shit here so watching old ones

[@danavreese]

Some Thai shows sometimes make fun of all kinds of things that wouldn't be aired in the western world. A counter example is คุณชาย, an amazing Thai TV series that breaks those stereotypes and addresses LGBT issues respectfully.

[@williamhartz8707]

Isaan rocket launching dates back to the 9th century when the Chinese introduced gunpowder. I just returned from the Yasothon rocket 🚀 festival. A wild cultural experience.

[@craig2963]

29:40 You mean the 3rd film with Sean Connery "The Last Crusade". The second film was "The Temple of Doom". And I agree that 1 and 3 were the best.

[@steverosse]

Yeah, I misspoke. Good catch. Thanks.

[@frankmazzie4855]

Oh jeesh let me set my alarm to wake me up.

[@steverosse]

Don't wake up for our sakes. We won't notice.

[@williamhartz8707]

Great discussion on the difference of “Thai humor” and “Western humor. Yes, comedy in Thai movies would offend too many Westerners- jokes about obese & handicap people; sex innuendoes about dildos, “humping in bed…& many juvenile jokes & don’t forget those sound effects. Once I was watching a stage performance in BKK and the stage lip sync singer fell off the stage. All the Thais in the audience burst out laughing while the “farangs” gasped in horror concerned if she was alright. Note: I think American humor back in the 60’s has changed through the decades and now I do not find the TV comedies worth laughing at.

[@steverosse]

Smiles and laughter are how Thais react to any stress. Including car accidents and street fights. It's just how they are raised to react to any bad thing.

[@bodhranclive3707]

Look forward to you guys on a Sunday morning. All the best from a sunny UK. Please hang on in there Steve I don’t retire for another 8 years and am planning on buying you a coffee buddy. Clive (no not that fugin Clive)

[@steverosse]

Thanks, Dude. I'll try to hang on for eight more years.

[@Sikofu]

Thank you for the show. I did enjoy it a lot.

[@mikeh9956]

Best. Damn. Show. On. The. Interwebz.

[@steverosse]

Thank you, Mike. Tell your friends!

[@mikeh9956]

@@steverosse You are my friends.

[@sirsillybilly]

I like being able to call my Thai girlfriend Moo Oin (Fat Pig) which is a cute pet name that elicits a giggle. Try that on with a Western woman. Thai humour seems to be similar in the realms of banter but a bit on the banal side. Asian humour overall seems to be slapstick. They love Mr Bean.

[@steverosse]

When I taught English in the hotels on Phuket my students loved to watch "Fawlty Towers."

[@jaideedave]

I recenty called my step daughter "jelly belly" and she loves it...and no she's not fat

[@leopoldbourne8444]

Was in a 'bucket shop' travel agency in Calcutta many moons ago. Finally asked them why giggling behind hand. The bravest one said "because you look just like Mr Bean!"

[@RikkieBkk]

Final destination franchise is good love the suspense

[@chocolatejellybean2820]

one of the western youtubers charges 70 usd an hour

[@timnewtontoday]

For what?

[@HiChewMango]

… seems like you like the blue cup after all … 🕵️‍♀️🤔 Thanks for the great episode 😆

[@coryjackson3131]

Love the show guys 👍🏻

[@MassiveChetBakerFan]

Tim, your playful little physical reactions to Steve's statements are hilarious! I would send you a donation but I don't think you need one! Interesting that you find "farang" a little bit offensive. Similarly, I flinch a bit at Brazilians' use of the word "gringo."

[@mosesbraun4760]

Hi guys . Thanks again for the show , you are perfect together . As farang in Thailand you will be always welcome if you take care of everyone in a Thai family , if you don't there call farang KINIAU or farang ding- dong . This is Thailand and this happens to many expat I particularly in the province . Take care always and be safe there .

[@steveone]

What Steve was saying about the need for many people growing rice is a good one . Ive noticed here that one hand helps the other with people in their modes of employment ( usually under less than ideal conditions ) without strikes and stop work meetings .

[@rogerhaugen253]

For me "Grumpy old men" is the best of TNT. Reminds me of "Statler and Waldorf" in Muppet Show

[@markdorpinghaus3325]

Another Good Show. Thanks Guys !

[@steverosse]

Thanks, Mark! Be well.

[@_Alfa.Bravo_]

Great show and hope many more to come! 31:50 ... nice to hear that you don't like horror movies. Never understood the need of them. Are they for people with a lot of fears or death fascinated? There is enough horror on the planet when we look Ukraine, Putin, Myanmar, Iugures, Yemen, Sudan or Mali. Lets hope Taiwan remains free

[@steverosse]

The one and only time I ever went bungee jumping, I asked the instructor, "Why do people like this." He said, "It's like roller coasters, we like to do something that feels dangerous but we know it's safe."

[@bobrosy3431]

Great Show... Thanks guys!!!

[@steverosse]

Thank you, B&R.

[@jackh1749]

Excellent Commentary Steve!! I enjoyed your analogies.. Philosophy minor? Can tell your a writer..

[@steverosse]

Thanks, Jack. I was an Art major for a year, an American Literature major for a year, and a Theatre major for two years. I ended up with a BA in Theatre Arts. No Philosophy; that stuff goes right over my head.