I have a weatherby vanguard 2 with the same factory 2 stage trigger and installed a gun-bloke trigger spring kit ($20) and now she breaks right at 1 lb. It was easy to install and easy to follow instructions. Well worth the money and they come in different pull weights 2.5,2.0,1.5,1.0 lb , I got the lightest and I’m extremely happy with it.
@BeigeYeti12345 Жыл бұрын
How is it. I feel like 1 lb is too light haha. Thinking of ordering the kit.
@a.joegevara3519 Жыл бұрын
I got the same results by cutting 1 coil. I still prefer the factory single stage that was offered before the HACT, wish I could find a couple more of those...
@warman58 Жыл бұрын
@@a.joegevara3519 Did the same thing with good results.
@stanlucas19324 жыл бұрын
I also installed a 1.5lb spring kit from Gunbloke off ebay. Cost me about $15.00 and made a huge improvement. I would have liked to have a Timney but can't see there being a $140.00 improvement over what I have now.
@shanestrike75644 жыл бұрын
I just changed out the spring in mine with a spring kit from Gunbloke on eBay, I like a 2 stage trigger and now it releases at 1•5lb, total cost was about $22, winning😉
@LunaRendezvous4 жыл бұрын
I have the gunbloke 1.0lb spring kit and it works and feels great, still retains crispness and with repeated blows from a wooden mallet to the barrel and action resulted in zero malfunctions, I like my triggers light crisp and safe.
@salvadizzle_696 Жыл бұрын
Keep the h.a.c.t, remove the trigger and actuator, clip 1.5 - 2 coils on the actuator spring and adjust the tension screw if needed. Save yourself $150. Howa made a great trigger out the box.
@aj92704 жыл бұрын
I have an older ( 10 years or so ) heavy barrel Howa in 22-250 mounted in a Boyd's laminated varmiter stock I too took the factory trigger off and replaced it with a timney trigger the rifle shoots like a dream
@eljohn34 жыл бұрын
I recently bought an older production 1500 from before they came out with the HACT 2-stage... probably a 6 lbs, gritty, stagey single stage trigger. Upgraded to a Rifle Basix drop-in and now it’s an absolute joy shoot. Trigger upgrades are probably the bang-for-your-buck mod you can do.
@jamesj15232 жыл бұрын
Would you mind sharing some of the approx prices you would have to pay for what was done or added from a consumer perspective?
@andrewwadel92 Жыл бұрын
What you described is exactly how mine feels. I describe it like it feels like there's sand in the trigger... horrible. And it's very stiff. Can't wait to try the timney drop in when it gets here Tomorrow!
@michaelmeyers18274 жыл бұрын
A good trigger makes a world of difference. The one thing I could never stand was a crappy trigger. I don t have a howa yet but I will soon.
@Rundu19874 жыл бұрын
I have a Howa 1500 in .243 win. It shoots 87gr Vmax and Nosler 70gr ballistic tips through the same hole. 5 shot groups. Dont think a Timney is going to make much of a difference. I love the hact trigger. Maybe its because im used to Lee-Enfield .303 triggers😲
@crusadershuakbar2 жыл бұрын
just modified the trigger on mine, snipped 1 ring of the trigger spring , stretched it back to origibal length and heated up both ends of the spring to take some of the power out of the spring . and its now just right at 2lbs pull
@TheWilferch4 жыл бұрын
The HACT triggers by HOWA have been fantastic and with spring changes you can get reliable/safe triggers down to the 1.5 lb range....problem solved, although nothing wrong with Timney products.
@YERAFirearms2 жыл бұрын
Excatly a single spring would reduce the the trigger pull to 1.5lbs. Best $25 upgrade
@brsmith28012 жыл бұрын
Love the build. I have a 1500 in 22-250 and considering a rebarrel/restock/retrigger job myself. You have given me much food for thought.
@Mountain_Man4 жыл бұрын
Very awesome! Hey Gavin you should come out to Utah in March and do the Long Range Shooters of Utah long range shooting class. It’s 2 days!
@MichaelDFarrellJr4 жыл бұрын
Very cool changes to this Howa. The amount of overhaul is extensive to get this rifle where you want it. It is interesting to see its transformation through the videos.
@Muddyfox473 жыл бұрын
wonder what the overall cost added up to vs just buying a more custom rifle from the start. I've personally been down this road, years ago with my Rem700 SPS varmint... costs add up!
@LastCaress74 жыл бұрын
I have that trigger on both my 6.5CM and Grendel Howas. They are fantastic.
@rainbow27103 жыл бұрын
You've done a remarkable job with that rifle, very impressive. I am considering a Howa 1500 in the future, so a Timney trigger might be in the bucket list too. Cheers.
@TTiger862684 жыл бұрын
Very nice, LOVE the spiral fluted barrel.
@AlliDelta4 жыл бұрын
I have a howa 1500 in 6.5 creedmoor and I really like the stock trigger. The rifle is shooting very well, probably better than I can but I need to work up some loads to find my best powder charge. But I need a chrono for this too... Really good to see you are enjoying your howa now...
@wildcatprecision3 жыл бұрын
I did the same as many and changed the springs and polished the sears. Can now get the trigger safely down to half a pound if I want too. Cost me $22 Australian. Way less than a Timney. Timney triggers have their place but not to replace the HACT triggers, just my opinion.
@Simon-talks Жыл бұрын
Agreed. HACT triggers are phenomenal with a little simple tuning.
@keithdeed17684 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have a Howa 1500, 6.5CM. I want a Timney trigger, thanks for your efforts
@paulvenn44474 жыл бұрын
I have a 1500 and I just did a spring replacement kit and its crisp and 1.5-2 pound break. Would love to see the comparisons between this Timney and a just doing a spring change out.
@txpredatorhunting4 жыл бұрын
Dig the rifle . Had a Timney in mine . Tried out a rifle Basix. Got rid of the Timney.
@chethaynes58024 жыл бұрын
Great Info. Offered in a relatable tone .
@long-range-eliminator4 жыл бұрын
The howa, and smith wesson 1500 basic same gun. My uncle has one got to play with it, that thing impressed me with 130 grn nosler it will shoot under a .50 at 100 with 5 shot group.
@TheWilferch4 жыл бұрын
Same gun also as Weatherby Vanguard.....quality stuff.
@andrewwadel92 Жыл бұрын
Eagerly awaiting the arrival of my timneybtrigger tomorrow for my howa 1500. I just couldn't handle the factory trigger anymore. Felt like I was pulling it through sand. The rifle is a .270 caliber.
@Simon-talks Жыл бұрын
All you needed to do was tighten the adjustment screw to take out all creep, then cut 1 coil off the trigger spring. Then you'd have a glass rod break at 1.5 lbs...
@Muddyfox473 жыл бұрын
wonder what the overall cost added up to vs just buying a more custom rifle from the start. I've personally been down this road, years ago with my Rem700 SPS varmint... costs add up!
@pepperoni-prepper5 ай бұрын
if the trigger does not completely clear the sear during discharge, there is no point getting it. the interference between the sear and the lower portion of the hammer causes an inconsistent primer strike. there are some old rifles with awful triggers, but the design cleanly clears on release, leading to an impressive consistency. trigger pull weight is relatively pointless if the trigger doesnt do its job.
@Zegswijze4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a new trigger for my Howa 1500 in .223 earlier today. Went for a Rifle Basix to try something else (already have a Timney in my Remington 700). The old (pre-HACT) I have on my Howa 1500 in .270 is nice and light, but the new HACT is a bit to heavy for my taste.
@kimlawhorn3329 Жыл бұрын
I just added a Timney trigger to my Howa 1500. I purchased a 2ld trigger. Im not that much of a fan of the feel of it. It feels heavier than 2 lbs and not much of an improvement over the stock trigger. Im going to try adjusting it down like you showed in the video. I wish the safty was still 3 position. Its not ideal for hunting.
@colesonfire39672 жыл бұрын
bought the howa oryx in 6.5 creed. took it to the range got it zeroed in about 9 shots. hit the 500 yard, too easy not even a miss, took it to the 1000yd after qualifying to use the 1000yd range... hit 3 out of 4 shots. for a box gun and just throwing a scope on it I was insanely impressed. i've heard some of the howa stuff can be hit or miss, but i certainly got a hit.... and 1 miss .... get it .... cause i threw one shot at 1000 .... its a good gun.... k bye
@plrodrig123 Жыл бұрын
I bet you can get the trigger down to 1.25 lbs or slightly less without slamfire. Timney is just being cautious due to liability issues. Would be good to perform tests at 1 or 1.25 lbs and test for slamfire
@willr21892 жыл бұрын
Thank you so muh for this!
@Heyomattyo3 жыл бұрын
Not a lot of Howa left on that Howa...next an after market bolt? 😆 You could build a sweet little Howa with your spare parts 👌
@JohnSchenck4 жыл бұрын
Did you try adjusting the factory trigger? Did you try shortening or changing either spring in the factory trigger? I did take one loop off the main trigger spring in my Howa 1500 factory trigger and am pleased with the results. I don't have a trigger scale to measure the results but it felt a lot better, not the lawyer trigger that shipped with my 1500,
@johnabbott38962 жыл бұрын
Cutting trigger springs is never a good idea...
@nolanfoster25513 жыл бұрын
Got my timmney trigger just waiting on mAh bottom metal and my Howa will be ready, timmney is a pleasure to do business with!
@donnstambaugh1506 Жыл бұрын
Thanks.,.
@whatthefun69612 жыл бұрын
I just put the Timney trigger on my Remington 783 MDT XRS stock. Safety hits the stock had to do a little grinding to get it to fit. else-wise awesome trigger! 👍 Did you have that problem with the Howa Timney trigger? Love the Chanel!
@mattlord29064 жыл бұрын
You need longer hair for your opening music. I have short short hair and when rocking out, it doesn't have the same effect as if I had an 80s rock band hair. Or hair like chicks from Boney lake still have.
@thebeardedlegend47734 жыл бұрын
Just bought one .see how it goes
@pepperoni-prepper4 жыл бұрын
wait, you said it was a 1/4 moa rifle once the barrel was replaced. then you drop in this trigger and it goes from 0.25 to 0.35moa.....and thats good? lol
@opensourceecon3 жыл бұрын
That's a great question however I wonder if the small group was due to him shooting and extremely cold and snowy weather? This may have caused the barrel to not heat up therefore keeping a tighter grouping. Your observation is interesting.
@Heyomattyo3 жыл бұрын
So basically all that's left of the original is the bolt and the chamber? That's not a build, that's a replacement. Will you construct another out of your spare parts?
@mattherring31964 жыл бұрын
Have you ever run a Jard trigger? I love the 1.5lb single stage on my varmint rig.
@theriddleballcoach4 жыл бұрын
This is no longer a Howa 1500. Just like when you buy a Remington 700 action and custom build it you don't say hey here's my Remington 700. I love the pursuit of making complete factory rifles shoot 1/2 moa. I have a Savage 110 6.5 that shoots 1/2 I have a Ruger American Predator in 308 shoots 1/2. Both are factory well to be honest the Ruger has a magpul stock on it. Oh and buy the way stock triggers in both.
@x-calibearusallc4 жыл бұрын
The receiver and bolt assembly are Howa.
@338mag4 жыл бұрын
I have used Timney, Trigger Tech, and Jewel triggers. All of which are well better than factory anything. I also used the MCarbo spring kit in my T/C because no one offered a replacement. It worked very well and was a great price. I add the cost of a replacement trigger anytime I buy a rifle. Factory triggers are horrible.
@TheWilferch4 жыл бұрын
By your comment I will bet you never actually tried out a HACT factory trigger on a Howa. Fine trigger, but 3 lbs....a spring kit can fix that and still be reliable.
@338mag4 жыл бұрын
@@TheWilferch tried it, swapped it for a Timney. I did not try the spring kit on that one,
@jamesgang945914 жыл бұрын
I take it it's only for the Howa 1500 and not the Mini action? I'm looking to change out my stock trigger in the Grendel Mini 1500.
@hewlett2604 жыл бұрын
Should be fine in the mini as the factory trigger has the same part number in the magnum/long action, short action and mini
@riyes11386 ай бұрын
Subs in Timney trigger - shoots larger group than last video with factory trigger (tho last video was with suppressor, and said muzzle brake opens group up). Viewers: so it didn't tighten your groups? UR: well it feels nice, I'm confident, check out my link, please keep sending me Triggers, Timney
@aminkhashm4 жыл бұрын
I get similar if noy better with my stock mossberg mvp 223, savage fv12 6.5 creedmoor, Sako robotech pro 30-06 and tikka t3x varmint 308 at 100yards my own loads! the setup is all factory ready. paid 650$ canadian for mossberg, 380$ savage, and 1400$ tikka and sako each. you don't need all that blows and whistles to be .3 inch group. you need a good rifle excellent reloading skills and be a very good shot. my 22lr cz 455 ultra match gets me .5 inch group of 10 rounds in 100yards "most of the times" if its not windy and I don't have control over cci blazers laoding process. by the way, you got a great rifle, I am not bashing that. but don't get lost into being all fancy and high tech. not everyone gets free products like you....!
@chrismckoy35333 жыл бұрын
Or just snip 1 coil off the factory engagement spring and get it under a pound... I just did mine then, took 5 minutes. Total cost was $0
@mrgabriale4 жыл бұрын
Sooo is it still a howa? What’s left?
@jamieharnish87254 жыл бұрын
U said in a past video, you bedded the action. I have bin fighting some of the same issues with same set up, not wanting to give up on the barrel yet. I notices the poor fit of the action in the stock also so i bedded the action but have not had the weather to test it out. Did you bed after the barrel? Do you think it was more so barrel or bedding? Thanks
@Zionist_Eternal3 жыл бұрын
Question: will the same Timney compatibly fit into a Howa American Flag chassis?
@matthewkyle6939 Жыл бұрын
Does the 3 position safety still function with that trigger?
@dougcittel1434 жыл бұрын
I have a Howa 1500 chambered in 300 WM. The Hoag stock is not satisfactory, far too flexible for long range precision. Just looked at the KRG product line. Nothing there for the LA. Any alternates that you might suggest for the Howa 1500 LA? I am attempting to get into LR shooting on a retirement budget. The gun was left to me and would like to use it as a trainer. Thanks in advance for any help.
@Heyomattyo3 жыл бұрын
Done know mate.
@chevy62994 жыл бұрын
Very cool but what would it take to get a stock trigger down to 1.5 pounds????
@momouppa3 жыл бұрын
Spring kit will get it to 1.5" I noticed that at 1.5 there is lots of creep tho.
@atom-by5ur4 жыл бұрын
Where's the bipod
@InkwellFoto4 жыл бұрын
No triggertech?
@davework59224 жыл бұрын
what is that bipod please?
@JS-eb8cs4 жыл бұрын
Did this same build with a Howa 6.5 Creedmoor, KRG Bravo Stock, Area 419 Muzzle Brake and finalized it with the Timney 609 Trigger. Been shooting 1/2 inch groups at 100 Yards and 8 to 10 inch groups at 1000. Would you recommend a barrel change?
@MelbLastboyscout4 жыл бұрын
not unless you get it for free
@Tom-rw5xq2 жыл бұрын
What barrel is that? Is there another video for that upgrade? Thanks!