TimTheTatman Said He Deserves A Higher Rank... So I Made Him Prove It (IN A GRANDMASTER LOBBY)

[@corneliustaifu5681]

Tim: looks at enemy tank Jay: TIM IS DIFFING THE TOP 500 TANK!?

[@Abdulbari-xx5io]

Hahahahaha i was about to say

[@cryaboutit2]

and won many fights the bastion carried

[@joelkarito7572]

Tim was getting diffed by top 500. I wish I could have people carry me to top 500 like tim.

[@norawolohan5753]

Probably means that he's taking space and forcing the Rein back instead of him being forced back

[@Brianuwu622]

@@joelkarito7572 fr dude prob like platinum if he doesnt get carried, bad at fortnite bad at this game too

[@johnfortres]

Would be fun if tim played more so we could see him in top 500 ladder

[@CarpathiaS]

Game is to frustrating, and doesnt get enough mainstream attention for Tim to keep playing it.

[@jairiusdubose9470]

@@CarpathiaS games only frustrating if you suck

[@shlumpd3045]

@@jairiusdubose9470 not true 100% of the time

[@saber1992]

@@CarpathiaS sucks because its what got him the attention he has in the first place.

[@HairyMert]

@@jairiusdubose9470 thats not true at all lol

[@AriesOcean]

If this was a normal elo hell master vs t500. Jay3 wouldve roasted the master.

[@aidancocking4014]

Yeah dude was trolling for 3 quarters of the game... the rien he was playing isn’t a rein player that or he’s a super low t500 player cos both reins where trolling aswell

[@ssebasgoo]

​@@aidancocking4014"Trolling"... People use this for nothing, now.

[@dmasta5516]

I get it..... But it's not JUST bc he is tim. But jay does know he has not played more than 5 hours of rem, AND has not played this game for over 2 years. So for someone coming back he IS top 500 BUT..... he kinda needs a half a year to get his rust out. Tim IS top 500 but right now sadly he is low gm

[@novapheonixgaming]

@@aidancocking4014 you say that like your better than Tim on rein 95% chance your not so why talk like you are

[@tofu1639]

If Tim was playing everyday since release then yes he would be roasted. But he legit stated he won 5 games and got master he hasn’t played for a long time

[@BombedOut]

To clarify the winston melee tech, you should melee as often as possible between zaps on single targets. It does the exact same amount of damage over time and saves you ammo so you don't have to reload in a sticky spot. It can also be the final amount of burst damage needed to finish a kill through certain healing. Only zap if there is more than just one target in your range because of the cleave damage.

[@isaiahjarmon4515]

🙏

[@jkpwordy8297]

Liking and reply bc I don’t wanna type this all out myself

[@lyfehaxandtrix3481]

@@jkpwordy8297ditto

[@Robin-vq2gu]

winton is strong with this one

[@barksonic]

*walks in straight line forwards towards choke with no shield* "unlucky"

[@westbrook3761]

meh, getting hit by every zen ball in a tight choke, It's unlucky

[@barksonic]

If he was strafing sure, nothing unlucky about dying because you could walk in a straight line in a top 500 lobby lol

[@gabe9564]

jay working overtime at krispy kremes the way he was glazing tim

[@zacharylortie2786]

I think he deserves to be exactly where he’s at. He makes enough mistakes to be a masters player, but has the skills to be GM if he kept playing. I could even see Top 500 for Tim if he really focused on it

[@PyroInferno110]

Yea it was very clear that he doesn’t play this game like that lmao. So I would expect him to be at masters anyway, but it’s really true for a lot of people that do this elo hell series

[@zacharylortie2786]

@@PyroInferno110 I can tell he remembers Rein tech a lot more than he does Winston tech. It seems like his biggest mistake with Rein it timing his charges, with Winston it’s the fact that he’s too predictable because he is too far away when diving. His hang time gets him either booped away or swallowed when he lands

[@chloeeig]

bro dont see much difference from masters vs gm tbh lmaoo

[@zacharylortie2786]

@@chloeeig yeah not much of a difference, masters just make more mistakes 🤣 generally the same level of mechanical skill. Top 500 is a whole other beast

[@ZeroGForce]

If not for the Bastion counter-pick, I would've expected Twitch chat to be going "TIMTHEPLATMAN KEKW". Like, I just *_loved_* how he put down his Top 500 Season 1 spray at 5:08, _and then immediately charged into a wall five seconds later._ Bravo, Tim. If this was one of Emongg's "Bronze Bingo" videos, I might've ticked off "doesn't know what to do with Nano" a couple of times already.

[@ZeroGForce]

Also, to answer the question at the 15-minute mark: *It's no longer "faster" to zap-melee-zap-melee* because of the OW2 changes to armor. In OW1, a punch would've only had 5 points of damage deducted because of armor, but since armor now does a flat 30% reduction of all forms of damage, the only thing it's good for is conserving ammunition so you don't reload as often and you can have prolonged engagements in fights. If anything, the Tesla Cannon in *_better_* in OW2 because originally, its damage-per-tick was *halved* against armored enemies thanks to calculations from damage sources dealing

[@purplewine7362]

Numbskull, the coach literally said he's almost gm. You don't have to cope with the fact that someone who barely plays the game is better than you.

[@cesarcaballero4662]

@@purplewine7362why do u keep replying to anyone who has a right to an opinion😂

[@purplewine7362]

@@cesarcaballero4662 and I don't?

[@ZakkWasNotAvailable]

Def seemed like he was way too panicky at times. Charged at random moments after playing corner really well and countering enemy rein. Did the same type of mistake with Winston when he would just bubble every time he went in mid-air. I think as far as nano goes he would have done way better just focusing tesla cannon on the backline instead of ulting. Clearly wasn't able to see what was going on and just threw them around the payload aimlessly

[@TiMonsor]

nice to see that even big streamers are as delusional about their skills as the rest of us "stuck at elo hell"

[@Bennjipie]

tim was playing since the game launched, he was consistent with streaming until fortnite came out

[@afanas4635]

Accept you know Tim is actually good and was in top 500 ladder before

[@Beleth420]

​@@afanas4635 idk man emong used to carry him hard Tim was good but he sucks still lol.

[@Real_MisterSir]

Tim always plays it up for the stream that's just his persona. Dude's always been like that even from way back when he was a season regular in the T500 ladder in OW1. It's obvious this is for the show and he knows he's been out of the game for a while and the only thing that truly keeps him from highest ranks is simply consistency and the amount of hours he can sink into grinding comp. That's all.

[@B_bang22]

@@afanas4635 Being in top 500 half a decade ago is far different than the current or end of OW1 Top 500

[@scarecr0w630]

The ball tryin to wall jump at 23:35 😂😂😂 The struggle is real homie

[@peadipabs23]

This is exactly what i wanted to see, tim trying to prove himself.. lol

[@Everything420rivals]

Are u gay

[@beezcabbage8251]

tim deserves owl

[@Jos-97]

tim's burner:

[@trueflood323]

Definitely Tim’s burner account

[@joelogan7548]

Bruh why we deserve Bird

[@Evil-Demon]

He Diff,t The Top 500... Tim is Good Wen Kevin Play,s😮😂

[@thegaminglord2190]

That's some hard copium right here

[@Fotokub12]

15:14 yes, shoot and melee will make more damage, because it will take more time for Winston to ran out of ammo and have to reload. it just make you have more time to do damage.

[@toriiibby]

this was so much fun to help with! W tim W jay W editor

[@jxstified7558]

Imma be real honest Tim is quite good at the games he decides to play like CS and OW and Warzone and whatever else but imo a lot of the time he was ranked so high was because he groups with insane players in all the games I have listed so idk how good he actually is in each game at this current moment.

[@purplewine7362]

​@@Archimedes20187 even the coach said he was really good idk why hard stuck diamonds are crying

[@cesarcaballero4662]

@@purplewine7362sounds like u are the one who’s crying lol

[@LordRobaZe]

@@cesarcaballero4662 no it doesnt

[@SkyTailedFox]

Tim was doing really good, and had to face someone on bastion who basically only focused him...

[@Judah677]

Alternative title: Tim shows jay3 how to play in gm.

[@peachpie18]

I never blamed Tim for moving on from Overwatch way back then since it was a tough time in Overwatch 1 at the time but it is always fun seeing him playing this game and enjoy it with friends. I respect all he does and this was a good video 👏👏

[@reddrift3022]

If anyone remembers Tim was boosted way back in the day, he would never play alone and always with pros or the best of the best. His normal skill is about masters.

[@0x0beanie]

I’d go further as to say Plat. I’m GM and he looks average

[@andrewright4370]

@@0x0beanieBro i saw better tanks at plat :D Dude doesn't track enemy's skills/ults, he doesnt know how to play against bastion and dont even repick when its obious that Rein doesnt work well in his hands. And im not even a tank main, and i still see a lot of basic mistakes

[@superstarr310]

“TIM KNEW HIS MISTAKE HE HIT SHIFT BY ACCIDENT” My brother in Christ he’s a grown man. He knows that he pushed the wrong button.

[@michaelesquivel5956]

That's literally making a mistake

[@itachi5844]

Started spraying the floor every 5 seconds, instant promotion to top 500. 10/10 recommend spraying the floor. Thanks Jay 3!

[@ElkayLive]

Tim the tat mans video is the one you would watch to learn how to be a twitch streamer back in the good old days of 2014. When he was far smaller and we had no idea wtf we were doing. He deserves it all. Lets go tttm! ❤

[@xxkarateheroxxthefirst4438]

Would anyone else want to see top 6 players of top 500 vs bottom 6 of top 500

[@360mew9]

that would be a massacre

[@xxkarateheroxxthefirst4438]

@@360mew9 could still be entertaining

[@guts809]

People will say he deserves it but have never had tim as a tank back in the day. Lassiz absolutely carried his ass.

[@kfed9834]

He was basically a hog one trick for like 2 years but he was top500 damage too, he can definitely get back to top500 on his own, but he isn't used to the pace of OW2 yet, Lassiz was a cracked tank duo with him though, I'd say his rein was at least gm5 though the other tanks not so much, just gotta learn the game again

[@xTurtleOW]

@@kfed9834 tim never was top500 on damage. He played sometimes dps when there was no role que at all. But then again his cree winratw was like 30

[@frankierizzo]

You can block a Mei wall with a Mei wall if you place it first in a choke, not great for small doorways but good for things like King's Row, or the tunnel on point one Gibraltar. The existing wall will destroy the section of the new wall where they intersect so cancelling the old wall leaves a gap. Just a nice interaction to open chokes against Mei.

[@lyfehaxandtrix3481]

I like that tip

[@morky3673]

As someone whos climbed from perpetual gold in ow1 to high gm in ow2, the biggest change in lobby skill level comes at high masters-GM. There are players with great mechanics lower but once you hit high master lobbies i feel like everyone has a stronger understanding of fundamnetals, to a point where teamplay and awareness is almost second nature to most players at that rank. Players stuck in low diamond and plat and even low masters generally lack the all around fundamentals too climb more so than the mechanical skill. Top 500 and even GM lobbies play at a pace unrecognisable to a lower elo player. Its easy to fall short at that level because all it takes is a lack of understanding/skill in one fascet of the game for a player at that level to punish you and take advantage of that.

[@SpacePirate549]

I can definitely speak to this!! I was a gold support player in OW1 and was even still gold at the beginning of OW2 (finished gold 1 on support). I didn't play any comp in OW2 season 2 (that was a scary time) but started working on my game and participating in more tournaments in season 3. I also made a good friend through the game in arcade and quickplay who turned out to be extremely talented at the game, and I started picking up tips and advice from them as well. In OW2 season 3, I started in gold 4 due to the decay from not playing for a season. In those two months, I worked hard enough to get from gold 4 to diamond 5 (and my rank stayed at diamond 5 after the MMR adjustment). That alone felt like a massive accomplishment!! I've always been mostly a casual player and saw diamond as a very far away stretch goal/end goal). HOWEVER. Shortly after hitting that massive achievement for myself, I played in a small competitive tournament and my team and I got to the final game, which was against all GM players. We were a mix from gold to diamond, with one GM on our team. We actually did pretty alright, but also got pretty rolled (expected). The game truly happens SO much faster at that level. Even if you're at the point where you're not making many/any mistakes, the speed of the decision-making is the real difference. So far this season (4) I've gotten to diamond 3 after just a few games, and am hopefully (fingers crossed!!!) on track to hit masters by the end of the season 🫣 that's a scary thought but I'm very proud of how far I've come, especially considering I used to think diamond would be my end-game

[@sj_milk_]

6:45 damn, if I knew all I had to do to be top 500 was sprays a lot I'd have done that years ago...

[@Thedudejax]

12:28 got me crying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tlnqhysphy176]

8:19 what was that transition

[@thatshortguy3099]

8:31 i kinda just skipped to halfway throught the vid and the 1st think i hear is Jay3 saying "Cute, Uwu, Mommy"

[@mikeg7324]

the lets go champ sub noise came from tim's stream back in the day so you know he's an OG

[@lukeheaton54]

That 5 orb to the head brings a whole new meaning to 5 head 😂

[@TappadaraWest]

Omg that Zen Volley out of nowhere lol

[@WhiteQueso]

I love Tims call of duty coms "I got knocked" LOL

[@ht5087]

i think it was also a team diff, the enemies were running hard counters to whatever he was playing but his team weren’t doing the same

[@Splashbang_OW]

Tim's Rein charges them walls like it's 1995 at a local rave party

[@Qhartb]

re: melee'ing in Winston duels. Your sustained average DPS is the same whether you weave in melees or not, but you don't need to reload as often if you melee, so you get higher DPS over multiple clips.

[@icantthinkofaname705]

This Tim guys is pretty good he should try streaming sometime

[@evilkamatis542]

Most of Tim's OW2 content is doing great in his channel. He just don't regularly play. He should get back and play and do content regularly with OW2 again. I think im speaking for everybody that his OW2 content is doing great.

[@jewlecho]

I mean he did say he wanted them to actually try. As much as he hated it, Bastion into Rein and Mei into Winston/DVa were good picks. lol

[@jesusthe-king]

Dude i like how theyr rein got stuned for a day and only he target him

[@RealNaisuCinema]

21:12 this block was insane that wasn’t bad on him it was good on the other rien imo

[@sGzBugz]

i would like to see how lower ranked players do in higher ranked lobbies with no or limited comms like normal ranked games. these GM lobbies are closer to mini scrims than normal ranked lobbies imo

[@grimskull94]

Landing that shatter after turning quickly is soo satisfying 😌 😂

[@MisterTBag]

"This bastion is torching me" so then switch to a different tank lol

[@xdocfearx7329]

in the very first engage of the whole video, tim gets ana nade...then not a single bit more healing....and then his ana missed a point blank sleep on a charging rein...then his bap puts window 100 meters away from the team

[@dachless]

14:00 I'm pretty new to OW, what does Jay mean when he was screaming "Oh wait C9 C9?"

[@toomuchdoi5355]

c9 is when you accidentally get off the point and the other team captures it

[@moses4583]

Its a meme reference to when cloud 9 ego challenged another team and didn't bother capping point and lost in OWL

[@FerdinandMutie]

The duck is like...."why he say f**k me bro"

[@jeraymymorteau1854]

I'm gonna call animal protection on you to save this duck 😂

[@vbnm193]

This is why zen is the best sniper in the game. Widow could never do that

[@Defnotabot_]

Jay3 clearly hasn’t been in a low-rank gold lobby with me where I spray literally every kill to feel better about my rank. Ha

[@Evelaraevia]

Guess I deserve t500 and I'm in ELO hell lol I spray 24/7 LMAO

[@rayvintankerson6818]

Tim forgets he was top 500 before everyone actually got good at the game fr lmao

[@xgingex3962]

When Tim was Top500 that’s equivalent to Plat now

[@MrNobodyNR]

I just found jay’s channel today, and DUUUUUUDE, saw tons of videos and it just shows me how i play this game and i still don’t know how to play at all 😅 i’m like, gold 2 i think but damn, these guys are insanely good

[@zacharyshiohama9310]

Tim, shroud and doc need to stream this game to blow it up again

[@drslayer6]

The reason why he isn’t t500 , because he’s so unlucky man😂 that headshot from zen and that headshot from hanzo as winston 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[@berryrreb750]

This was a really fun match! GGs to Tim and everyone :)

[@Fm45music]

BERRY (fredmaster45)

[@J3tAlone]

You're nuts man, ggs

[@pwnser]

alternative title: jay3 meat rides some guy with a beard

[@ghostofuchiha3807]

Realistically you not really prove it in one match that you are or arent stuck in elo hell. You can have a bad day, but still deserve to be a higher rank in general.

[@jeffb6276]

I think Jay hitting the duck is peak overwatch

[@tyoh86]

LMAOOO Just played Gieorge in OD, GG's!

[@t.j.anderson997]

I love how Tim didn’t switch the second round, even though the enemy team was still running Bastion.

[@funsizedtom]

We now have a mission YT. Save the ducks life! 400k Subs! Like this video and save our yellow plush friend! D:

[@nooterscooter1931]

That 180 shatter was nuts

[@Ethank33]

Jay hyping Tim up the first game and then in the last game he pretty much called Tim's ego fat😂

[@ir0ispro923]

Jay3 saying every top 500 sprays every 5 secs. Suddenly every bronze moves to doing it. Jay now aww maaan how am I gonna diff them now

[@F34R223]

I love tim od vids and jay3's stremes I love this collab!!!!!

[@everadept]

I've watched a ton of his videos. I have now subbed.

[@Tscharski]

Jay after the first match you talk over the coach giving feedback to Tim - I really would have liked to hear what he said.

[@NostromoFeratu]

The bastion leaves NO room for error, that's why they picked him, to punish the Rein's mistakes as much as possible.

[@ntdscherer]

It's crazy how every single rank has people pissed off that their rank is too low, even masters.

[@smolbex]

Why do I feel like Tim’s team was afraid to go for back line

[@hotsoup6296]

Berry issoreal for doing the mirror def makes this vid alot better

[@GildedOnyx]

that bastion pick was brutal

[@thatotherguy9246]

Bro was glazing Tim so hard

[@ANM149]

Tim proves elo hell exist finally 😂

[@youngrootv]

Tim my favorite Sodapoppin mod that blew up

[@mjtheko]

Tim is clearly very close to t500 on rein. At least to me. I'm just some random coach, but he could almost certainly get to GM just by grinding a bit more. Especially with how masters is right now with the insane amounts of rank inflated ppl. (Myself included) his core mechanics are more than good enough on rein. That being said the monkey is a bit tragic sometimes. Especially in this lobby he kinda just died. A lot. Dva was a little better but didn't have the most impact. M2/3 makes A LOT of sense for the not-rein heroes.

[@Brevokh]

He needs to adapt more. Like why is he on Rein vs a Bastion, lol. Just simply swap to Ram or Sigma after the first death.

[@bbpoItergeist]

@@Brevokh rein could just walk on u as sig but it would definitely be better idk why that kid was even playing bastion shit boring

[@aidancocking4014]

Bro all he needs to do is walk a meter forward bait fucking turret hide behind a corner and int in w wall

[@aidancocking4014]

Dude just kited forever and then walked at bastion w shield up LOL

[@Atomixs105]

Bruh I face palmed after seeing that on the second round, Tims team had a genji while the opposing team had both winton and mei

[@wesner1th]

Just remember that Tim hasn't played OverWatch since 2018

[@wesner1th]

Honestly very surprised of Tim, especially cuz he hasn't actually been playing Overwatch for the past 5 years

[@aidensilva4220]

ok, don't mind me, just binding my spray button to what used to be my shoot button.

[@jacobyshmurda2650]

That Zen shot was insane at the end !

[@NostromoFeratu]

the enemy Rein counter pinned every time cause with a Bastion, he Rein will be dead before he can get up.

[@say6310]

"GRANDMASTER LOBBY" sounds like a meme tbh, especially EU

[@AppleHelperITouch]

Tim is just built different, he knows what’s he’s doing and he’s just built different

[@SalsaRimjob]

Tim was top500 once back in season 3 in the solar year of 1479 in his late 20s. Not only did he specifically brag about reaching top500 in season 3 back in the day, he also bragged about his overbuff ranking a lot from season 3.

[@mathewgonz]

That first game was a support AND dps diff

[@robertwalsh9444]

i watched the stream and the duck did not deserve the disrespect

[@Jay3]

We just enabled CHANNEL MEMBERSHIPS on the main KZbin channel! If you'd like to show EXTRA support, this is a good way to do so! (Absolutely not necessary though) ♥ How to join: www.youtube.com/@Jay3/join

[@dalilmaine1]

Liking the video 10 secs in. Already know it’s great lol

[@brendanmilligan7778]

His Winston play was rough. I didn’t see any small frog leaps and he didn’t land hits during his ultimate. All of his jumps were straight up.

[@deRoyLight]

Really tough to play the Rein mirror when one side has a Bastion and the other doesn't. A couple of engagements he had he got unlucky and his team got picked mid-charge. A few wall clips on charges too but that's really just a timing thing. Have to keep in mind with the Basiton presence, pressure is a lot higher on the Rein decisions so easier to make mistakes.

[@ausername4096]

naw he just isnt the best

[@Baconator9k]

Yesssssssssssssss already know this is gonna be amazing

[@DAWNTHEGARD]

I want to see Tim vs Flats on Riegn

[@coltonk9419]

i always tell myself i can be top 500 while im in the quick play lobbies then i see top 500 players going at it... humbling to say the least

[@tigs_eazzy4086]

this cuteumommy guy was legit carrying 3 games in a row

[@eversneak]

The rein game came down to who had the bastion.

[@meatbone7126]

Things start dying when they were calling stuff not enough comms on all and it shows on a dive comp

[@crommg]

No way this guy does bastion cheese knowing what type of game he’s going in to. So cowardly