Tina Brown says Prince Harry and Meghan Markle underestimated the impact of leaving the royal family

“They both completely underestimated what it was going to be like without the palace platform… The palace… has amazing convening power… every major invitation in the world comes through that conduit.” - Tina Brown

[@spicerack4397]

Tina, please spell out specific actions that made H an impressive soldier. Word has it, he was protected by squads of other soldiers and he played video games all day. He walked away from an important and solemn Marine event, left them high and dry and chose to go to a soiree instead, so he could ask a Disney executive that night for a job for MM. Not one friend from the old military days will speak to him or speak up for him. He let MM takeover Invictus and you think he is a good sponsor for them? Piffle. Trevor Coult, MC on KZbin, could bring you up to speed on H's real military career, not the myth that is pumped out to protect him. Plus, getting paid to be a sponsor for veterans and merchandising for your own Archehole foundation is absolutely trash and vulgar. Kinda like making money from your dead mother's image. The Archeholes are beyond redemption.

[@fpan2774]

That is exactly what i wanted to write..spot on

[@m5sunflower665]

He was protected and fellow soldiers knew

[@m5sunflower665]

No one in America where the First Invictus started would ever get paid to assist disabled veterans. No one only these selfish putrid fakes.

[@juliefaulkner5497]

They called him bunker Harry.

[@spicerack4397]

@@fpan2774 You're most welcome, capri. I had the time today to write it down for all the people that just can't get to it with their busy schedules. Cheers from Ft. Worth, TX.

[@franhildebrand8590]

It’s too bad MM couldn’t leave Harry alone to do the Invictus Games. She ruined the whole event just so she could have the spotlight. She doesn’t realize everything isn’t about her. Such a shame.

[@sloneygrl4550]

I agree - it was a big mistake by them. If Harry had gone on his own, many people would have said “good - it’s Harry doing what he likes and it’s nice to see him back”. Meghan showing up just cheapened HIS brand. People just don’t like her because her social climbing is so obvious.

[@marytesta3003]

I do agree. And she could have been behind the scene rather than marching around often not even seeing Harry.

[@m5sunflower665]

I’ve never seen non disabled Veterans with their spouses kissing on stage in America where the very first Invictus Games started . Never heard any Veteran getting paid to show up behind the cameras for Netflicks or any other social media outlet. These two are the most selfish

[@lynnd7716]

@@m5sunflower665 Gary Sinise could teach them a thing or two

[@joancarson5519]

@@lynnd7716 a see àaà

[@ashaharcharan6003]

They believed so much in themselves that they started to lie, being petty, professional victims and greediness overload!!! Privacy is the new PAY ATTENTION TO ME!

[@jucavinanli]

What is the name of the person who has replied? Just curious as they've blocked me, must be a sugar!!!

[@ashaharcharan6003]

@@jucavinanli she is suddenly invisible!

[@lisabishop6266]

The new orangeman?? He can't be president though. But then again, there is some type of god who will make sure the T**** doesn't come back!!!

[@hazelanderson1479]

It was never about privacy. They wanted to control the press, making sure that only the good stories about them made it to the surface. Any criticism of them, which MM claimed as racism, would hopefully never see the light of day.

[@gracetailor8811]

basically they (especially MM) gave up the better position and now they are in the pit with everyone else. It is sad that her greed led her to drop the better long term option. They will fizzle out in the pit.

[@Tracy77751]

Yeah…!

[@lauralee9440]

@Grace Tailor - I agree, except that I think EGO, more than greed, is the driving force behind MM behavior.

[@noellarash367]

All she cared about was “Money & Fame”… Classic “Gold Digger/ Opportunist

[@beatriz9376]

@@lauralee9440 I think both EGO and GREED are her driving forces.

[@dantescave1]

Rubbish…

[@ceilconstante640]

Princess Diana didn't need a PR firm when she lost her HRH. She wasn't a Narscist. She genuinely cared about people. Many came forward to tell how she helped them personally by talking and listening.

[@ninaturnbull7004]

Yes Princess Diana provided if you did it the "right way" and actually cared about people you could have a platform for what you care about and people would listen and care

[@ceilconstante640]

@@ninaturnbull7004 Very haughty and arrogant reply.

[@ninaturnbull7004]

@@ceilconstante640 but I was agreeing with you. So.......

[@ceilconstante640]

@@ninaturnbull7004 sorry I missed your comment.

[@mellie9633]

She was also a monarchist and still believed in the RF she never denigrated them to the media.

[@snowysnowyriver]

They also underestimated how much they would become despised in Great Britain. But that's what happens when you throw a beloved Queen and her much respected husband under the bus while he is on his death-bed. It's also what happens when you arbitrarily accuse an entire Commonwealth of 54 Sovereign Nations of racism and colonialism. And when you tell lie after lie after lie. Even the Archbishop of Canterbury had to call them out on their lies. So many reasons why they are not (and never will be again) welcome in Great Britain.

[@raelenekeegan3814]

Not only in Britain but the whole Commonwealth

[@sloneygrl4550]

Yes - they thought it was only little Britain that would be annoyed and the rest of the world was their oyster. How wrong they were- Australia, New Zealand, Canada are generally suspicious of their motives and they have not won over the majority of people in the US. They are regarded as a joke by many

[@margaretoconnor3687]

oh how I agree with every one of your words, brilliantly expressed

[@LadyOaksNZ]

Absolutely agree 💯 New Zealand 🇳🇿 here

[@herindoors3552]

Spot On.

[@lelaparker2430]

They could have left without trying to destroy the RF. That's what destroyed the reputation. People don't want liars and mean people working for them

[@lilyliz3071]

Exactly,if they had left and just got on with making a life for themselves no one would be so against them now

[@missjuds]

The RF had real scandals, now they even have a RAPIST.

[@nicoleyap6070]

Exactly...well said Lela! Must watch this video of Mr. Markle's interview he gave recently about his daughter, Meghan's life. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqfbfKWXf6uUmdk

[@bevkaveri3916]

Absolutely!

[@sammyrichardson7305]

Agree 00%

[@audreykennedy8891]

Mostly they overestimated themselves. An absurd amount of selflove.

[@beatriz9376]

Meghan and Harry are convinced that they are smarter than anyone else and superior to everyone else. Their enormous egos are their downfall by they are so arrogant they don´t even see that.

[@avagrego3195]

agree

[@mbr4613]

That's what the narsistists do : fall in love with themselves

[@modeangelis7913]

Deluded themselves.

[@moirabaker458]

And complete lack of self awareness

[@janetgreen4642]

It does make me laugh when people like Tina Brown comment on not liking palace life, the pettiness etc!! What would Markle know about anything?!?! She breezed in, filled her swag bag full of perks and privileges and, shot out the back door! This woman has no knowledge of the Monarchy and its workings; the Royal Family and its duties and service and, the country and what it expects from the Monarch, down. She did not and, will not, ever fit in to the role with which she could have done so much good.

[@marymcdermott9581]

Basically MARKLE has no morals......she's quite a home stealing lieing and cheating........no character........she appears to have got away with it up until now......and has been lucky in court with her judges.......she has no value on family or friends.........she could have been a good politician but who would trust her she would knife anyone in the back.....she's a fake and a failure

[@CaliWeHo]

Agreed. She never possessed what it took to be a member of the BRF. So she ran.

[@judithgray1836]

Perfectly said 💯👍

[@juliegarnai7362]

Yep! Opportunities missed and bridges burned.

[@leoren2685]

She had no interest in the self-effacement needed to be a lower-ranking royal-and could not square what she saw as the celebrity of royalty with the fact that she could not merch it all to her own benefit. I don't know what she thought it would be, but she had zero understanding of monarchy, British history or traditions, etc., and had zero interest in learning it.

[@annerleighharrison80]

"He was a brilliant soldier" and "The vets are in his bloodstream" ?? REALLY? Clearly Tina Brown has never listened to Trevor Coult MC, or any of the other army veterans who actually served with Harry. They tell a somewhat different story. If this is the standard of research and conclusion Tina Brown deploys in her book, it won't be worth reading.

[@joysutton5528]

Tina Brown has obviously never heard of bunker Harry and the Gurkha guards and failing his helicopter pilots license 3 times.

[@bexp436]

Absolutely agree. Doesn’t say much for her book.

[@gisele.1488]

Tina Brown needs to 'educate' herself about H and his time in Afghanistan.

[@kaysussex4991]

Apparently H was not intelligent enough to further his career in the army

[@lauranolan4744]

Complete brat

[@hazelt9953]

H&M are trying to spread themselves too thin and not finishing anything. The deals will soon dry up if they don't produce any work

[@leoren2685]

I think that horse is already long gone out of the gate ...

[@henryottis295]

They are toxic like kryptonite. Nobody's going near for fear of being tainted.

[@lisa408t]

Have they produced ANY yet?? They appear to be bumbling fools who way overplayed their hand!

[@marytesta3003]

This is true. They need to pick but it's because Meghan isn't passionate about anything. It's the flavor of the month with her. I am sad that she didn't let Harry be the Invictus Games sponsor as I do think he is passionate about it and she just has to be involved. She needs Harry to seem relevant.

[@privateparty5616]

Exactly. They're only around 38/40-44 years old. They are going to need a whole lot of $$$$$ to make it to retirement age what with the way she spends it. Their PR bills are in the millions per year. The mortgage and upkeep on the mansion is huge. Then's there is the clothes and jewelry, etc. No wonder ol' Harry is burned out. Hahaha

[@rethacarriere2054]

H was not a real soldier..protected and never in danger.

[@bevhowarth2771]

Agree with Tina, he should focus on the Invictus Games…trouble is, Harry’s wife now seems to be hijacking that for her own aggrandisement.

[@mbr4613]

Bev Howarth,. Sorry to disappoint you. Harry DID NOT START THE INVICTUS GAMES. The WARRIORS GAMES WERE STARTED IN COLORADO IN 2013. Charles suggested to Haznoballs to do something similar. So the Invictus games were started the year after in 2014. IT WAS NOT HIS CREATION, IT WAS COPIED. Haznoballs hasn't got any positive initiative and any input. He's a halfwit n does as he's told by megaliar

[@evalynnchristiansen9430]

@@mbr4613 Exactly correct. Warriors Games were first. Invictus games were based on the WG. Also agree about haznobals being a halfwit.

[@Taluta394]

@@mbr4613 right. H really should see Real psychiatrist and focus on his own mental health before he speaks again. Something is obviously wrong with his thinking. Every time he opens his mouth he lies and a bunch of BS falls out.

[@mbr4613]

@@evalynnchristiansen9430 hi , if you get the chance, look up Harry's academic achievements. They amount to nothing. D in geography n a B in art. His mates did his work for him. Look up Sarah Forsythe his ex teacher who refused to pass his papers n got the sack then she took Eton to court n won

[@bevhowarth2771]

M Br, I’m not at all disappointed, I don’t know or care if the Invictus Games was an original idea, it’s irrelevant to my point. Harry is identified with them and as it’s the only thing he’s doing of any value he should avoid diluting it with dross.

[@helenjob]

The queen was correct when she said there was no part time role for members of the Royal family. The Invictus games showed that. I am not aware of any working Royal being paid an appearance fee for going to an event of the charity they are patrons of. Neither do they turn up with a Netflix crew in tow. Neither do they offer 'free' and useless taster sessions for a service that pays them a percentage of profits (Better up is a money making entity that retains Harry and this was a thinly disguised marketing tool). Also, Meghan arrived with a wardrobe costing approximately 88k us dollars and paraded in that in front of veterans and their families who probably struggle along on disability allowance when an Invictus t shirt and jeans would have been much more acceptable and shown some insight into how ordinary people live. The Invictus games were copied from the US warrior games and until Meghan came along Harry had found his niche in this particular charity. He looked happy and animated, full of empathy and understanding. This last games was all about Harry and Meghan and their Netflix interest. Ugly and disgusting. And the felony was compounded by Harry blabbing to a us journalist about how he is his grandmother's special grandson and is concerned that she doesn't have the right people around her (to be kind, I think he means prince Andrew but it's her choice and he, at least doesn't trash his family whatever else he may have done). I would be amazed if he comes back to the UK with his family in tow for the jubilee as a Netflix crew would not be welcome. The security issue as he calls it is a very scanty figleaf which doesn't cover anything after his trip to the Netherlands, a rodeo and ballgame and a very public evening meal in a country where people have guns under their driver's seat legally. Has he forgotten JFK and John Lennon? It's completely ridiculous that he thinks he's safer in the USA than in the bosom of his Royal Family, surrounded by a ring of security steel. No, prince Harry looks shifty, miserable and mendacious. He seemed happy until the love bombing phase of his relationship ended and Meghan started exerting her power. What sort of expectant mother threatens to kill herself (her statement on Oprah) to get her own way? She couldn't cope with the reality of Royal life which, though very privileged, comes with enormous responsibility and even more demands on personal time. It's a way of life for life. She didn't have the stomach for the lower rank behind Charles, Camilla, William and Katherine. Her wedding she considered to be a 'spectacle' which was a ridiculous, celebrity strewn affair with only one member of her own family. Harry's closest friends we're not included in the evening party as she got to work isolating him from people who could see through her. Poor, deluded, unhappy Harry in my opinion.

[@diannewigger2953]

Well said comment and really defines the issues clearly .

[@henryottis295]

Poor Harry my ass. The spoiled lazy brat got the exact wife he deserves. A perfect match. Two underachievers.

[@margaretoconnor3687]

Excellent analysis,well done

[@caseybettis695]

WELL SAID !!!

[@moni6290]

I completely agree!

[@rivert3dove254]

She thoight she was better than the roysl family ,,, well now she's learning the truth

[@ahenwaa5133]

It's such a warped mentality that goes on in MM's head. The privilege of being associated with the royal family alone is such a cool thing. In her case, she was married to the spare (very close proximity to the queen), given the limelight and adoration and wouldn't have to want for anything ever again, money wise, and she decided that wasn't good enough. Incredulous.

[@beatriz9376]

@@ahenwaa5133 That's because she is convinced that she is smarter and superior to every other human on the planet.

[@leoren2685]

@@ahenwaa5133 The thing is, Harry isn't the "spare" anymore. Charlotte and Louis are the spares. She and Haz can't stand the fact that they are way down in the order of succession and therefore have limited privileges and must keep to their place-basically the new Edward and Sophie. M was not able to accept that and the day-to-day grind of going to unglamorous places to do royal duties. She also couldn't understand why they couldn't merch the Royal Family and make money from it. The other 'part timers' such as Eugenie and Beatrice are part-timers because they do not merch the the RF.

[@ahenwaa5133]

@@leoren2685 Yes I absolutely agree with you. Personally I would take the drudgery of performing royal duties, although I personally think it's an honour to serve people when you're in a privileged position. And the perks of having multiple holidays a year, all expenses paid and having access to the finest clothes, food, vehicles, travel, whatever else one could think of. I would take that anyday. But I guess MM just gets bored too easily or she's just dumb and greedy. No respect or regard for protocols or the finer side of life in her book.

[@marcywatkins5878]

You are so correct

[@trustmemysonisadoctor8479]

Haz and MeMe overestimated their value inside and outside of the Royal Family.

[@modeangelis7913]

Exactly!

[@zzzbbbooo]

But unfortunately, they are talked about more and get more press attention than the rest of the royals put together so in some ways they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They really are a fungating cancer on the face of the monarchy. They're just not going to go away.

[@leslie-annmills-gomez8763]

Really? Tey telling that to everyone that keep them relevant

[@michaeljones1445]

"Struggling for relevance" 3 most important words in that interview

[@gisele.1488]

Nobody was that concerned about H and his wife leaving for a life in the US, but the Oprah interview, peppered with lies, innuendo, and the tragic timing of it, turned any fair minded viewer against them. It was their 'characters' that did them in.

[@compostcorner5934]

Exactly. If they hadn't of done that awful interview they would not be so unpopular as they are today .

[@petrinakeay4075]

Plus the fact they thought they were going to be bigger than the royal family. Their whole departure from the family has been an embarrassment. I suppose you could say Meghan is used to avoiding her family, but Harry was so close to his brother and sister in law, and his gran, it’s all such a shame.

[@LittleMissHoop]

Yep. Though characters -- quotation marks unnecessary :)

[@gisele.1488]

@@LittleMissHoop point taken. I tend to over use them, and also the words 'seem,' and 'appears' in my answers, to protect myself legally, just in case. But thank you.

[@bettywrites1051]

*🇺🇸 MEghan does NOT represent the American Woman. We UNITE our Families, not Divide them. We are EQUAL to our Husbands, not above them. We PROTECT our children, not FAKE & Monetize them. We WORK for a living, not live off Men, Blackmail, Taxpayers & Charities. We RESPECT our Elders, not hurt them. This woman is an embarrassment to all Caring, Honest and Hard Working American Women & Mothers. 🇺🇸*

[@lokey-1607]

Well said!!!!

[@pearljames5433]

I'm not american but I am so pleased you are standing up for american women.

[@helenlane6317]

VERY well said! I agree 100%...

[@passionatesingle]

Beautifully put!! Totally agree with you.

[@lynnd7716]

Amen!

[@padraig581]

I think this woman has been living in la la land. Harry plagiarised the warriors games and now turned it into the haznoballs and megaliar show. Harry is not a veteran he didn't get the name bunker Harry for nothing. Blahh Blahh don't buy the book if she cannot get those two facts right

[@mbr4613]

Padraig 👍💯👍💯👍💯 YOU ARE SO RIGHT. THE WARRIORS GAMES WERE STARTED IN COLORADO IN 2013. It was Charles who suggested to Haznoballs to do something similar, so the year after 2014 the Invictus games were started.

[@rethacarriere2054]

I wont buy her book after listening to her..she is off base.

[@vandatavna7681]

@@mbr4613 Edward Lane Fox was Harry's private secretary for years, and it was he who first put together and managed Invictus "for Harry" (at Charles's request). And it is the current CEO Dominic Reid (and his staff) who organized this year's Games. H has the position of Patron, but a patron does not manage anything, he just turns up for photos, gives a speech, and hands out the medals. But this year H took financial advantage of the veterans, by using the Games for his own gain ...... getting a personal payment from Netflix to film him at the Games, and promoting his own business companies while he was there (BetterUp, by whom he is employed, and Travelyst, his own travel company). By doing this he is perpetuating the "half in half out" stance, which the Queen told him he was not allowed to do .... being the "royal patron" of a charity, while at the same time making private money out of it.

[@mbr4613]

@@vandatavna7681 I'm totally disgusted. Those two are nothing but scroungers. Money, money money is THEIR ONLY GOD

[@buddy6743]

@@vandatavna7681 This comment 👏👏👏 👍🏻👍🏻

[@pegpeg5496]

I believe that them grasping at every straw to stay in the royal fold is because the celebrity route isn't working. They need the royal connection.

[@carmenhunt5296]

Very true 👍👍👍 x

[@sandyno1089]

You're right. They have no talent, no charisma, no appeal.

[@snowysnowyriver]

.....and no talent for anything except whinging greed.

[@thesilversurfer7136]

@@sandyno1089 exactly. Not to mention no talent, no education nor experience.

[@beatriz9376]

Haven't you all noticed that the treacherous. deceitful, untalented blabbermouths (Harry and Meghan) were not invited to the Grammys, The Emmys, the Screen Actors Guild Awards, The Oscars or any of the Oscar parties (including Serena's, Elton John's and Vanity Fair's), the Emmys, the Critics Choice Awards, Fashion Week nor Obama´s birthday party or the Beckman wedding. It is obvious that the Hollywood elite and US politicians have declared her and her hubby ¨persona non grata¨. That´s why she had to buy her own NAACP award. Everyone, including Oprah, Gayle Serena, the Clooneys. the Beckmans. etc., are keeping them at arms length.

[@leoren2685]

He was extremely impressive as a soldier?!! In any case, he's now blotted the Invictus copybook by making millions of dollars off of it with Netflix-making money off of wounded veterans NOT to fund Invictus but to create wealth for himself. Then this week we learn that he summoned Travelyst (another company created with charitable funds from the UK - now a private company) and BetterUp, which is not about mental health but about burnout and coaching for execs. It's disgraceful.

[@herindoors3552]

Harry was NEVER an impressive soldier, watch Trevor Coult MC on You Tube and you will get the real story of Hazbeen's time in the army, only sent there by the RF to try to keep him in line, he is not respected by any veterans who he left high and dry without a thought, he is an entitled, spoilt individual and a disgrace to the memory of his mother Diana.

[@modeangelis7913]

Sadly, that is the truth of it. Any Goodwill has started tarnishing...

[@fairyprincess911]

Not to worry. These things won’t last. Dodgy, questionable endeavors and him being involved tarnishes everything he touches. When will he realize?

[@sonialelii9038]

The biggest question I have is if Harry was not a prince, would MM have given him a second glance? He's not exactly her type.

[@ahenwaa5133]

Anybody's her type, as long as they've got the bag, status or ability to prop her up her ambitious ladder.

[@franjenkins5091]

Never

[@lubaovsepian9001]

Would b easy to check- the Queen must just strip their titles and coming with it privileges, and public/ media must stop giving them that platform but treat them as they ASKED- HARRY and MEGAN!!! WHO????? WHO R THEY?

[@jandramardges3368]

@Christina Bonvillian ...your type, obviously.....

[@mrscitrine3592]

@Christina Bonvillian let us see how many times have Meghan been married and dated others in between. 🤔

[@avagrego3195]

Excellent interesting interview. H&M must have been astounded when the Queen said no part time royals, you are either in or out.

[@juliefaulkner5497]

Well they tried to tell the Queen they are going part-time with that public statement when they left, soon had egg on their faces, been total failures ever since.

[@joysutton5528]

How stupid can you be to even ask the Queen. Being royal is not about being commercial and surely Harry would have known that. May they never return and cause more trouble.

[@gisele.1488]

@@juliefaulkner5497 nevertheless, they are still on the Royal website as working royals.

[@jandramardges3368]

@@gisele.1488 ..and that is as meaningless as your statement!

[@nicoleyap6070]

Must watch this video of Mr. Markle's interview he gave recently about his daughter, Meghan's life. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqfbfKWXf6uUmdk

[@m5sunflower665]

Your absolutely correct she’s hijacked Invictus

[@maryannlush2991]

Her choice of the top she wore to the IG - if anyone was in doubt that she was trying to be "Diana 2", then this is more proof. I would bet money on it that she was wearing Diana's favourite perfume again. How can Harry not see what is going on. I bet William is in no doubt about MM.

[@cfantasticseeallgood]

She was just at the opening for two days, mind your own business

[@m5sunflower665]

@@cfantasticseeallgood never in America do Veterans or others involved with this charity take money for honoring our Veteran’s. Never❤️🇺🇸

[@dorischong4781]

Harry copied the Warrior Games. No original ideas from this couple.

[@peko7446]

There's still AirBnB for the Harkles. They can rent out rooms with the choice of their numerous bathrooms.

[@LittleMissHoop]

LOL

[@fairyprincess911]

😹😹😹

[@dianeosgood6594]

Invictus was created for Harry by the palace. Harry's charity has not donated to Invictus Games since he left working for the RF. In past year William and Kate's charity gave Invictus Games $500,000.

[@sunandevise9934]

His evil wife need money for luxurious lifestyle which they both hardly work in the real life, so begging in the form charity 95% keep! The less for PR and lawyers to sue the press for pockets money

[@maryannlush2991]

I think you will find that K & W donated more like £1million.

[@jacquelinedockweiler1961]

Harry just wants the spotlight The games actually started in America. As usual they copy anything

[@jgibbs651]

Meghan wasn't really a celebrity before she got together with Harry. She was a C-list actress in a cable TV series with limited distribution, in her 30s and unlikely to rise higher up the greasy pole of celebrity. She had a niche lifestyle blog on which which her then boyfriend, a successful chef, gave her considerable help. Without Harry she'd have faded back into obscurity as younger actresses came on the scene: Harry was her ticket out of a show business career that was stalled and only likely to run downhill. They under-estimated the pulling power of royalty - bad move. They hugely over-estimated everythung else: their appeal, the appetite of the public for celebrities with no obvious purpose; above all, their narcissism led them to believe they could turn their hand, as dilettantes, to producing podcasts and documentaries. The brutal truth is they don't have a USP except as ex-royals, and the market value of that fades frighteningly fast.

[@jandramardges3368]

@Christina Bonvillian 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Thou are such a mighty bloody fool.....

[@jandramardges3368]

@Christina Bonvillian ..obviously it takes one to know one????? You and MM must be best buds, huh?

[@angelau1194]

@Christina Bonvillian Was she? How come nobody had heard of her?

[@audreykennedy8891]

@Christina Bonvillian she was no Grace Kelly. Was she ever in a Hollywood movie? Was she ever nominated for an Oscar or Golden Globe? NO.

[@mrscitrine3592]

@Christina Bonvillian yeah an A lister in a lifetime original movie. Have a little credibility gurl; people can google her and know an A lister is someone who is bankable, most in demand, proven box office track record. List all the shows, movies, her co stars, how much her movies or shows made $

[@mrsbluesky8415]

What ? They need to “produce” something for the money ? How very middle class.

[@lynnd7716]

🤣🤣🤣

[@cameliawilks2049]

Harry DIDNT invent the Invictus games. He copied the Wounded Warriors from the US.

[@anireseegam6128]

Never heard of them

[@jandramardges3368]

@@anireseegam6128 ...Then you must be living in a cave......

[@Reality6789]

She has it so wrong about Harry’s military career, it questions the accuracy of her book.

[@victoriaphilip798]

Generally Americans do get their facts wrong with their narration of the British monarchy

[@jangoslin8258]

Harry's military career was when in Afghanistan he was protected , he was never in any danger ,

[@Tracy77751]

They had it made and gave it all away!!! Can’t get bigger than being in Britain and the Royal Family…!

[@irvanhamal3368]

Yes, absolutely, but even though I cannot stand her horrible fake visage, I can see she is very streetwise and canny. She is also very bright and could have been a real asset to the royal family if only she had been a genuine person and not a total narcissistic. A very evil woman. So sad.

[@lionessbynature8007]

Unpopular opinion. Perhaps they didn't want that life. Perhaps it made them feel unfulfilled and limited especially in the modern world. Perhaps they're not seeking to top off a life as a royal. Perhaps they saw more rationale for a simpler life somewhere in the middle outside of the royal cage, therefore don't want to be bigger because they see what bigger looks and feels like. Perhaps they're looking for a BETTER, humane, and less stressful way to live. Perhaps people shouldn't deny them the right to be human and allow them to take the road less taken without malicious judgement. Perhaps everyone around the world is on the outside looking in. We see, hear, think, feel, and act what the the royal family want us to see, hear, think, feel, and act. Perhaps it's humanly possible be tired or not fond of that way of living. Adaptable for few, not all, and certainly not forever. Change is hard but perhaps it's necessary.

[@AABB-ii6hf]

​@@lionessbynature8007if change is hard, then they should be Kind in order to make people like them. They started with self- victmising, whinings, complainings and bad mouthing RF in Oprah interviews, Spare book etc for MONEY. They are Nasty and unkind.

[@anneeyre1624]

Please view Lady Colin Campbell's channel as well as Trevor Coult (former soldier who knows Harry), Neil Sean and According to Taz. Unfortunately, the American people have little to no concept of what the Royal Family do and stand for. They are to be greatly admired and respected. Harry and his wife left because the Royal Family work as one, the only individual to be singled out is Her Majesty the Queen, and because of this Harry's wife could not take over as she would have liked. She knew this BEFORE joining the Royal Family. The way she treats both her family and his should be a huge red flag to everyone.

[@marywest2896]

I'm american and I understand and appreciate the royal family, and I also understand that meghan thought that because she was welcomed warmly by the public on the pre-wedding tour, that she was more "popular" than god, much less the other members of the royal family....she saw all these companies sell out their clothing and pieces that she wore, and she thought if she left she would make money marketing any and everything....she mistook a warm welcome for adoration, which let's be frank here, that is for Her Majesty and maybe all the cute great grand kids....I stopped being a supporter when they did that interview while Phillip was dying, that is completely unforgivable... and now they the harkles are finding out that the world is not holding it's breath waiting for the next lecture from them....let's face it, Harry and Meghan are stars in their very own shit show....and I won't be watching it....

[@mordrethboehm4818]

@@marywest2896 They are beyond despicable. In view of their inflated egos, I wonder how they explain to themselves what others see as them lurching from one disastrous initiative to another. And how they explain to themselves the ever-growing list of events to which that they have NOT been invited. Since they are both so entangled in their victim narrative, who do they blame? I cannot see them readily accepting responsibility for their spectacular failures. My guess is that they each blame the other!

[@marywest2896]

@@mordrethboehm4818 yes I can see them blaming each other for the train wreck that has been their lives the last 4 years...even in the oprah interview Harry took not even the smallest bit of responsibility or blame for the megxit....you know if one of my relatives would have said something that could sound racist, like wondering the color of skin, I would have never told my boyfriend, because although I knew they were just asking a normal question, I wouldn't want there to be any misunderstanding or hard feelings between them even before they met!! so I feel harry is to blame for starting and telling meghan things, just like it was said william asked harry if he was sure about getting married, harry said william said, do you really know the girl? harry thought william was being not racist but classist....if that's a proper word..like meghan may be not be good enough for the family...well telling meghan all this stuff set her in the mode of misunderstanding just about everything that was said in the past and in the future did racist, really one could argue that Harry was the original racist, not taking what was said at face value but seeing a deeper meaning, one of hate and non acceptance, I believe that could also be called paranoia.....

[@moni6290]

Yes, Meghan didn't want to be part of the team. Remember the engagement interview when Harry said something about her being a great addition to the RF team? The look she gave him?

[@jessicaa2060]

I think the tide is turning against these 2 in America - I am a liberal in Chicago (so I used to LOVE oprah... until that awful interview!!!), and I absolutely cannot stand Meghan. I knew all along this plan of theirs was not sustainable bc of the way she spends AND because she has no real talent to offer. She couldn't make it in Hollywood before, and she still can't make it despite having this huge leg up on a global platform. Everyone sees her for the opportunist she is. I don't even think Oprah wants to associate with them anymore either. Meghan will be the downfall of herself and I am absolutely loving watching this all unfold!

[@patriacastillo8594]

Tina Is delusional.

[@sallyh7282]

Yes they both completely underestimated what it was going to be like without the palace platform & grossly overestimated their own talents, abilities and popularity. The pair have nothing to offer that most people want hence the jealous, spiteful & vengeful attacks on the RF. Such a vindictive, evil couple because they couldn't have their cake and eat it.

[@ClaireL77777]

Think Lady C said Invictus games was someone else's idea not Harry's. She is on KZbin its all on there.

[@psycharol]

They take with them the historical abuse of a dying man and the constant trolling of his grieving wife of 70 years and the families on both sides..They used the bashing of their family elderly to make themselves known and become rich. That will never leave them..what they will never have is respect

[@jeannehunter5344]

Well said.

[@betsyroessner9616]

Really good comment!

[@fairyprincess911]

Go, Carol🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏽

[@betsyroessner9616]

Excellent summary of exactly why they have made themselves outcasts!

[@shanimcmillan6298]

Impressive as a soldier, who the hell does her research 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@goldenpass4766]

Lol. He's a 🤡

[@JessieCori]

It's offensive to normal people how selfish, grandiose and devoid of humility both of them are.

[@lakegirl239]

Lost me at “extremely impressive as a soldier”, what, as in his well earned nickname “Bunker Harry”? Never correcting people when they mistakenly call him a helicopter pilot when he failed to qualify and was a gunner?

[@maryannlush2991]

Yeah, knows how to shoot people. Well done Harry.

[@margi6035]

Finally, hearing the most comprehensive explanation of how Megan and Harry got it wrong and why they are not succeeding at life away from the Royal family. Megan took Harry away by the nose, telling how they would become so successful doing it their way, before Harry discovered she lacks class and intelligence, two important elements of success in the business world. Megan is a flailing fish out of water and not trying to read the public’s attitude to her at all. Harry has lost the security he underestimated that his family gave him. They have no future unless they start to get realistic about their own abilities.

[@joeyme2909]

I guess she thought she could go to Hollywood and all film producers would fall over her to get her working for them. Well that went well for her NOT. She never made it in Hollywood before for a reason so why did she think it would happen now!!! Just because she married a prince and had a title? No meganut it doesn’t work like that. She was even written off suits. She was unemployed when she met Harry handbag. So she was desperate

[@kathleenwhitlock6474]

He didnt start the Invictus games he stole them from the US ask anybody

[@gentiumblue5211]

Meghan's brand is troublemaker.

[@thebookofnoor1]

H threw everything away for an exploitative woman who doesn't care for him. MM was given great platforms like National Theatre and VC Commonwealth. She could've supported her husband, traveled the world as per royal schedule and made a difference and a name too. But she wanted to monetize and show-off her royal lottery in U.S. He has made all the sacrifices in this relationship to push her career ambitions forward. It's a shame but he deserves the ruin after the way he backstabbed his own family and heritage. She gains no matter what happens.

[@mordrethboehm4818]

I don’t believe she has gained anything of lasting value. Undeniably she has achieved her goal, with a twist: infamy rather than fame. But now that she has this notoriety, it will be considerably more difficult for her to successfully ensnare anyone else whom she may have in her sights. As they sink ever further in everyone’s estimation, they just may be doomed to stay together.

[@ashaharcharan6003]

Thank you for pointing it out: meghan markle is flying high and joy riding on Prince Harry's merits.

[@maureenguthrie7537]

That was her intention right from the start.

[@Brinkaaa23]

Her husband the father of her kids....ok

[@fairyprincess911]

What merits?

[@AABB-ii6hf]

​@@Brinkaaa23huh? What kids?? U ever see them?? In pics. She claimed herself black, but in pics, the kids 100% White. 😂😂😂

[@devikafollosco2456]

Tina Brown nails it! H had some sense of what the palace platform entails and demands from him and he's familiar with his area of involvement. Whereas Meghan is in way over her head and doesn't have what it takes to manage the demands of what she's having to deal with ... She just doesn't know her subject and doesn't even a basic perspective -- she doesn't have it.

[@joannehetherington-thomas1479]

Sorry they already lost the ball. Game over.

[@aspen327]

They. Should had just took time off and still be under the royal family. Like his mom say Harry an airhead and impulsive.

[@mrscitrine3592]

She did say that and also she was worried about Harry figures. Look at where impulsiveness gets you

[@AWG2]

Tina brown book makes no sense

[@mcf5226]

She has no purpose, she has no brand ,she has no identity. And she steals others ideas. She has no real thoughts of her own. No design no class no no words. She talks about having a voice everything she talks about she takes from somebody else.

[@maryannlush2991]

Yep, she is a major plagiarist.

[@helen5852]

Plus she USES & USES white men 1 after another as her social climbing Financial ladder. And still has the audacity to call herself a strong woman feminist champion of all social causes!!!🤢🤥🤡

[@herindoors3552]

Harry stole the idea for the Invictus games from the American Warrior games, not his own idea, and please listen to Trevor Coult on Harry and his army career, what a lie that was, nothing Hazbeen and Neverwas say can be taken seriously as we know they lie.

[@aliceobrien8390]

He should let his wife out of thisvorvit will go down the dream like every thing she gets involved in harry need to be very csrefull with the games because vetarens arectiring of the focus beining to move away from competitors

[@juliecrowe5252]

They are all over the papers for all the wrong reasons just a pair of fools Who would want to be famous for being hated strange couple unfortunately a very bad partnership

[@martyevans8162]

Hopefully the Royal family will continue to maintain the “ high road in their ways” & not respond to any of the doings & sayings of Meghan & Harry & the scuttle-but surrounding their shenanigans. Harry & Meghan had a great start-up & were sought after but since have behaved in ways that seem to indicate they want their cake & to eat it as well & the public & the media, on both sides of “the pond” , are progressively turning against them .... which they can’t afford. Many in the Royal family work hard & long hours to keep the monarchy relevant, strong & visible which Meghan & Harry contribute nothing to but want the benefits from the results of the hard work of the Royal family, Hopefully M & H reign themselves in re: the Royal family before they lose the interests of their sources of income,

[@joysutton5528]

As their brand is now so tainted the future holds very little. All their own fault.

[@kathrynrodgers-lang2529]

Do you call the Charles and Camilla on-going affair during Diana & Charles' marriage "the high road"? Diana deserved more from Charles and his heartless family. I don't understand why the British citizenry tolerated this behavior. A lot of entitled , cold-hearted boring fools.

[@mordrethboehm4818]

So glad that I watched this. What Tina Brown said here about the traitorous prince - her obvious ignorance about his being known as “bunker Harry”, his having failed in his three attempts to gain a pilot’s licence and the contempt that many veterans now have for him - has prompted me to cancel my pre-order for her book.

[@diannewigger2953]

Yes I have decided not to buy it OR even to check it out of the library !

[@mordrethboehm4818]

@@diannewigger2953 Let’s hope that Tom Bower’s book does not also disappoint us.

[@joeyme2909]

I don’t blame you. I won’t be reading it either. She obviously hasn’t done a proper thorough research. What a joke of a book I can just imagine what is written in it.

[@fairyprincess911]

Too late for me😾. I ordered from Amazon last night and cannot cancel but at least it was dirt cheap/ heavily discounted 😹

[@annfisher3316]

Speaking of the wonderful lnvictus Games, which he did not develop on his own and highjacked for his own show last week, l dread the Canadian Indigenous People being used by the Harkles for their own fake PR. They grab a cause, disingenuously dabble for a bit and move on.

[@annettefournier9655]

Wow how misinformed. Is this going to be another fluffy book ? Because shecreally has H and invictus all wrong.

[@katalinrobin6222]

harry wasn't called bunker harry for nothing. he spent his entire life in bunkers. and didn't you read his army boss' explanation: never again does he want anybody joining the army needing as much wet-nursing, as harry did.

[@amac3052]

If they went back and were accepted by RF as working royals. I would want a Republic in Australia

[@linalove5915]

Ah! Correction! Bunker Hawwy is his military stance! Hawwy was never, never in danger. He was in protective protection 24/7

[@joyceloke9116]

Probably think she could strike it rich with H along

[@donnagriffiths1855]

She lost me with the veteran's and her delivery was so confident. Unbelievable............

[@cherylrafuse7322]

I believe his nickname in the military was "Bunker Harry" and he spent most of the time playing videogames and surrounded by bodyguards. His fans think he was a helicopter pilot but he actually failed his pilots license 3 times and was a "gunner". He never corrects that misconception. His brother William is a helicopter pilot for Emergency Services.(Air Ambulance and Search and Rescue).

[@donnagriffiths1855]

@@cherylrafuse7322 You are right. Not many people know this. Harry was a nothing in the military other than by name a Prince.

[@elizabethwilk9615]

Megan couldn’t let Harry do his thing alone at the Invictus games. She had to have the spotlight - she truly craves attention

[@donnawanna9833]

Meghan really thought everyone would love her as much as she loves herself.

[@suesmith4994]

🤣🤣🤣

[@suesmith4994]

@@martinalukacic5625 🤡🤡

[@tejswn]

@@martinalukacic5625 and yet here you are in the comments 🤡

[@ImtiredofUok]

Meghan has no brand? But you wrote a whole book about her, whats your brand Tina 'clout chaser' or opportunist lol

[@bettywrites1051]

*Getting BRANDED, and being a Worthwhile 'Brand',...are two completely different things.* She isn't trusted enough to have a brand. Her little Bench book is in Bargain Bins everywhere. Her 44x44 publicity Stunt was a huge fail. Her Oprah interview contained over eighteen confirmed LIES. Hollywood ignores her. The Obamas have completely disassociated themselves from her. Oprah has deleted the entire Liefest Interview from her SM sites and the Internet. Everyone avoids her and NOBODY trusts her.

[@natasharobinson6572]

Say it louder for the people in the backseats...

[@mrscitrine3592]

People write books all the time even about people with no brands.

[@twpsy634]

The institution of Royalty is supposed to be about life long duty and service.They are not celebrities or "stars" virtue signalling whilst the cameras are on.It is about turning up on a wet winter morning in some far flung part of the UK to bring attention to and show support of a charity or event Sadly,the person who most embodies this,along with the Queen herself, is Princess Anne. It is a matter of record that she carries out more charitable duties than any of the others, but hey guess what she doesn't fit the image of a Disney princess or feel the need to court popularity,so barely gets any credit for it...not that it would probably bother her anyway. If Diana hadn't been attractive and played the media as she did, no one would be still talking about her. In fact if she had lived and just got old it would be the same . It's just a sad reflection of people's obsession with image over substance. Unless it changes we will continue to get the leaders we deserve.

[@barbaraa6098]

Think again! They both lie.

[@justinbarber4567]

Brilliant soldier?! How exactly was he “brilliant”?

[@beebeemilo2024]

The problem is with Megan, all the deals via the palace wouldn’t go directly to her pockets or bank accounts as she desperately wanted to. Whereas if you started your own charity all the money would be for her and her alone. That’s simple actually

[@maryannlush2991]

Didn't she claim at one time that she had brought millions into the UK as tourist revenue. And she and Harry also claimed that the RF were jealous of her, like they had been of Diana, when the pair toured Australia and the South Pacific!

[@richiebcarric31]

So he was a brave soldier. Ms Browne needs to understand that since 1942 no royal has been allowed anywhere near a combat zone. Only close enough for a foto shoot to create the perception in the publics mind of a warrior prince.

[@mmouse3931]

You forget about Prince Andrew’s active service during the Falklands War and his 20 yrs of active military service?

[@richiebcarric31]

@@mmouse3931 That is true as long we understand he was not in combat,just a rescuer that only went out after the attacks were over...he actually said in a videoed interview,he would put his helicopter in the path of an exocet and fly straight up to take the missile away from the ship...and if you believe that... well ....??

[@hazelholmshaw9415]

Don't forget Prince Andrew,he was in the combat zone. And did active service for a number of years.

[@linalove5915]

MegaPoser didn’t marry Hawwy for love. Hawwy was a stepping stone for her to climb!

[@mariarevell4836]

Like all the other Men she used allegedly

[@vickyrose6798]

All the promotion of this book is about Meghan... Why???

[@joycesmeltzer1705]

They underestimated life without the “Palace Platform”!! 😯 You don’t say. I didn’t know that. 🙄

[@joeyme2909]

Yeah sure so impressive as a soldier that all his comrades called him bunker Harry. He didn’t do anything extremely impressive. Go check it out

[@jenniferpierno6108]

She was an inappropriate choice from the start, and it went downhill very quickly.

[@kellyhart666]

Jennifer Pierno I can say the same thing about Kate Middleton. She hounded and chased William for ten years, before he finally proposed. Kate was a social climber and a gold digger!

[@johnrichards3394]

They approached this completely wrong. They should done their duty for 10 years then depart.

[@Bleu-en2bf]

We all have family problems, but I do not think it is wise to share with public. Very unkind thing to do. "Don't listen to what they say, go see." ~Chinese proverb😏

[@token1371]

TINA'S RIGHT! "Big things are coming Andrew's way". Those fantastic Royal connections! The Monarchy will change after QE2 is away. MM had a grace period year to rescind, and she said: "NO".

[@solace2023]

I am sooooo tired of hearing about Harry and Megan. They are not OUR ROYALS.

[@alibrowne6374]

Megan Markle wasn’t a celeb! She wasn’t Hollywood. No one knew her before she dated Harry. She was a C-list TV actress in Canada! That was it. If she hadn’t married Harry she’d still be doing that.

[@susanrobb3447]

Er, she wouldn't . She got herself written out of it because she was unmanageable and too bossy. No one could tolerate her.

[@goldenpass4766]

@@susanrobb3447 I read that too. Well said. No doubt if she hadn't met harry she would be with some other sap. At least we would have been spared. Lol

[@caterinat558]

MM has succeeded in increasing her family with Archie and Lilabeth, those are major developments and the most relevance in a woman's life and family. They have their own loving family now and their peace in the usa to celebrate it. Good for them.

[@thesilversurfer7136]

Best analysis I have heard!

[@HeidiDundas]

Please sign Lady Colin Campbell's Petition inviting Prince Harry to ask The Queen to put his titles & royal status into abeyance.

[@maryannlush2991]

Surely this is a waste of time. Harry isn't going to agree to anything that will remove his title.

[@goldenpass4766]

He doesn't have to agree.

[@suemcdermott2947]

She didn't dig deep in her research on her subject for her book

[@monaminchau4798]

Despite our best efforts, we were not able to figure out how/where to watch the actual Invictus competitions. But then, why would Harry as a sponsor have lined up or advertised broad TV or streaming coverage, if he needs to keep enough content for his Netflix documentary. Maybe the Invictus Games are not as well served by him as they could be without his conflicts of interest…..

[@jkth4500]

He was nothing but a toy solider ffs!

[@tracybrown448]

Megan could not make it in Hollywood for years at almost 40 she married Harry and thought he would bring her an opening into Hollywood

[@Smartychase]

That's so true if you're royal you can be as boring as you like for years or even as lazy as you like good things will still come your way....ie you have that safety net Hasnoballs has tossed that safety net aside I hope he doesn't fall

[@izzy4575]

“As a royal you can be as boring as you want”, because you are not serving yourself, you are there to represent the country, the people of the UK. And H&M are trying to sell royalty, but they have nothing else besides that connection, that’s why their business model crumbles.

[@ClaireL77777]

Part 2 of PDina's (lovely American lady) KZbin interview with Thomas Markle this Wednesday

[@linalove5915]

Megaliar intimated by the press??? NEVER! If there is a camera MegaPoser always, always finds it and does a fake pose! lol 😂 🍿🍿🍿

[@gnasser6694]

Meghan had nothing !! Period!

[@charleneplanthold6580]

Well this made my decision for me of whether or not to buy Tina Brown’s book. She hasn’t bothered to research Harry’s military career. He was constantly known as bunker hairy, because that’s where he stayed whenever there was any actual combat or the least chance of danger. He was guarded by Pakistani squads whom he referred to as his “Pakis”. He couldn’t pass training to be a helicopter pilot. He couldn’t get out of Eton without cheating. He couldn’t get into college, not because of finances because he was too thick to take college courses. And the one thing she connects him with the Invictus games he stole the entire idea. In 2012 Harry was invited to Boulder Colorado to see the American wounded warrior games. He thought it was a great idea so great that he went back to England had his staff create the games renamed him Invictus and has taken credit for it ever since.

[@valansley]

Harry was a BRILLIANT soldier 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@goldenpass4766]

Exactly. He's just a 🤡

[@linalove5915]

MegaPoser was a nobody before Haz and a nobody married to Haz! 🍿🍿🍿

[@markpeace495]

Invictus was something special and if harry had of respected that he would have had a massive hit on his hands, the problem is he has made it his comercial venture for self profit, it is now known as INFLICTUS, people are leaving in droves, netflix is hemorrhaging subscribers and money because of harry and meghan, people are voting with their wallets, the other problem with the dastardly duo is the want instant success, they don't actually stick to anything, every idea they have peters out because of it, real life and royal life are two different things,

[@misskatzlife5892]

Literally every move Harry and Meghan do gets National attention. They do need the Royal brand . Seeing that the Royal brand ain’t that hot right now. BTW what’s Kate doing? Nothing

[@milenaaguirre6925]

I disagree with Tinas' assessment of Harry's military career. Did she interview those men that fought alongside him?! Doubt it.

[@gerardwar269]

Anyone in their right mind would of never left. Harry Potter married the wrong woman and they are ruining the clout of the royal family.