Tina S - Through The Fire And The Flames (Dragonforce cover) REACTION & REVIEW! FIRST TIME HEARING!

Tina S Fans.....Dragonforce Fans.....FEELIN' YOU!!! Tonight we're coming back to Tina S, with her rendition of the Dragonforce song entitled "Through The Fire And The Flames". FULL DISCLOSURE: I am familiar with the original version of this song by the original artist/band. However, I have never heard this cover. Therefore I will not be reacting to, evaluating, or scoring the original song in any way. I will ONLY be reacting to, evaluating, and scoring this particular cover of the song. How's this one gonna go? Only one way to find out...
Come on in, enjoy the show...I'll see you inside.
Scoring System Guide
10 = Perfection (Unobtainable)
9.0 - 9.9 = Awesome, Amazing
8.0 - 8.9 = Great
7.0 - 7.9 = Really Good
6.0 - 6.9 = Pretty Good
5.0 - 5.9 = O.k.
4.0 - 4.9 = Not So Good
3.0 - 3.9 = Pretty Bad
2.0 - 2.9 = Really Bad
1.0 - 1.9 = Horrible, Awful
0.0 - 0.9 = A Travesty, An Affront To Nature
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• Dragon Force - Through...
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[@kevinmarch4259]

I’m 55 years old and I’ve seen a lot of guitarist’s. . This is the only guitarist that leaves my mouth hanging open. What a gifted and talented musician. Love her.

[@jeffwotherspoon3867]

according to Herman Li she used the Guitar Hero version of the song so she could remove the guitar parts to add her own in, because there is no way to separate the two parts so it is important to note she played both parts

[@jeffwotherspoon3867]

@@powertothebauer296 people use the recording for guitar hero because they can isolate or remove specific parts, because each part is sent in separately, so if you want the singing part removed you can do it, same for the guitar part and or drum part, which you can not do with a normal recording

[@chrisvanderwielen1530]

@@powertothebauer296 Watch Herman Li's reaction to this, he does a good job explaining it.

[@martinnassif-latif8696]

@@jeffwotherspoon3867 i think both guitars are not separate in guitar hero for this. they are both recorded together. so she couldnt remove one guitar from the other.

[@pickin4you]

Herman Li was also so impressed that he invited her to come play with them anytime they are in France. He said it was the best cover he has ever heard.

[@gregnowlin3303]

Did she accept?? I assume not.

[@vinograd74]

Oh, I am so glad you got to watch this. I am huge of this cover by Tina. And if you look Herman Li face when he saw her rendition of his own solos - that was really convincing. The guy was in awe )

[@susannaahola7641]

Herman Li,when he reacted this he said that he knows to whom he gives a call if he don't want to play this song anymore...😁❤️🎸🎶🎵

[@Gm_channel]

Benar

[@janihaavisto79]

Oh yeah, Herman said that maybe that solo part should be played the way Tina played. Hahah

[@nicdd18]

He invited her to join on net or even on live in Franve

[@leeroygibbs2720]

The pausing look on Herman’s face after the solo, she made him do 56k modem noises for a second 😂

[@marrrrrrtin]

So glad you call out her right hand skills, having watched a few of her videos I noticed that she never anchors her right hand anywhere on the guitar. And her technique moving between the different picking styles and taping is phenomenal.

[@johnhawkins_twa]

Wow. Incredible score especially after everyone hyped it up. She's also chewing gum the entire time, and at one point during the solo, she shreds all the way down the neck and isn't looking. For the Love of God is still my favorite with Altitudes a close second. Probably because of the emotion/feel involved in getting those right and she gets knocked a lot, (incorrectly) for not showing emotion. Always respect your opinion, David. Keep them coming.

[@mikedow9830]

Tina was 15 at this time

[@obud3777]

Tina Setkic started classical guitar lessons at the age of 6 , and later studied under jazz-rock guitarist Renaud Louis-Servais. According to Setkic her interest in the guitar stems from her passion for the work of female guitarists Ana Vidovic and Orianthi. 🎸🔥 She ones got an invitation from the late Eddie Van Halen to play with him on stage, she declined!

[@donaldgamble6405]

9.7 ! From you ? Wow! ;) Enjoyed your reaction to this more than any other, including Herman Li's. Thanks. Notice the gum chewing? Next -up Altitudes? Perhaps her most 'emotive' performance. .

[@THEDavidHeretic]

December

[@skyvision7363]

I can hardly walk and chew gum. She does this top-notch guitar performance chewing gum. I'm gonna practice blowing a bubble while walking tomorrow. Your final reaction had me in tears. I laughed with you.

[@gailbreslin5441]

I loved this reaction. 9.7 is a well deserved score!🔥👍

[@hannuhedman5882]

Her covers are so perfect and beautiful I can watch and listen to them all night and still not get bored of them... She is the first youtube player with this effect on me. I have seen many of them but she clearly stands out. In electric guitar, anyway. I didn't even know most of those cover songs previously and didn't know very much about metal rock but still I was totally blown away by her guitar skills.

[@terryallen5328]

She is quite simply out of this world brilliant. Only my opinion.

[@kentovewagenes1141]

Omg... and breathe.... That was sick. The speed.. the tapping... not even looking while performing... and dhe is 15... wtf 😳😳😳😳

[@r1learner178]

This cover is great. Don't know if you have seen her but another young girl that is pretty awesome is Evlee. You should see Evlee's cover of this song, and she is only 12 yrs old at: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqGclK2hn5KgntU She can even play it at 1.5 times the speed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqCpk3mEp7Z-l6c

[@lonelywind3511]

And chewing gum...

[@ralfbrenner4991]

Tina S is a so great. Tina please continue. Come back for us . You are the best!!!!

[@agustinmanyari]

Awesome cover, I love it! I’ve been warned! 😁🤘🏻⚡️🫶🏻

[@nicdd18]

Herman also said it might be the best cover he watched(at the moment of his reaction) and that her teacher might have extracted both guitar part of guitar hero 3 and rearranged it to do that!

[@jimsciberras690]

Keep up the great work David. Really enjoying your show for a while. I literally press the go button with you when I watch. Honest and insightful.

[@EvilsTwin66]

To be honest, its not my music, so her Steve Vai cover its my favorite guitar solo. But without being a guitarist, i can hear technical differences. I will say i like it more melodic, if that right said. But what i realy wnat to say. Thats the second best reaction i ever seen. I think you could live with that, because only Herman li beats you with his own song. So i become acquainted with Herman Li as a realy sympathic, grounded guy. And its the only reaction from a original artist to a cover i know about. So great respect for this! 9.7 I like it, also to watch the expectet reaction, expectet means not less fun to watch! So greets from Germany to you David stay healthy & safe

[@AlexBarregon]

Tina was on fire 🔥 Her control was masterful. I am still here listening Dave, but am still in decline at the moment. Thank you.

[@vincentlurie3990]

I’m so happy you got around to this. I love your technical critiques. Girl can play! Like you I’m amazed by her picking hand. Without sounding denigrating to her, it’s almost machine like because it is so clean. But the other thing that catches my eye is that when I watched her play Moonlight Sonata she holds the guitar on her left knee with the neck almost pointing straight up to the ceiling. When she plays a piece like this it’s on her right knee and there’s a lot more movement in the guitar itself. I’m not sure why she does this but I find it interesting. I’m a piano player but my guess is that the volume of notes in Moonlight Sonata requires a greater degree of accuracy and that is why the guitar is locked in almost one position. In any case great review and good job Tina!

[@johnhawkins_twa]

Vincent, the left knee position with the guitar pointing upward at an angle is the normal position for classical guitar. Tina started out studying classical guitar from the age of 6-13 and she reverts to that position when playing any classical music piece even though she's using an electric guitar. I believe she has a cover of Vivaldi where the guitar is in the same position.

[@clivematthews5296]

Herman says that because she is accompanying Guitar Heroes there are no lead guitars as both on one channel on it so she is playing both lead parts by Herman Li and Sam Totman.

[@barrettflorida]

And all done without a fan blowing her hair around! Love to Herman, who said "oh s#!t" and "f@ck" when he listened to her

[@markoviitanen2671]

Tina S is quite an exceptional human being...

[@Liz-cmc313]

I keep hoping she comes back to YT... I agree with her picking. Incredible tight. The control. 💯🤘... And she looks like she's bored while playing, lol

[@user-from-Arkaim]

Great job! David, I would like to watch the digest edition of your show in which there were several episodes with ratings such as 9.5 and higher. I still think your reaction to the Sound of silence from disturbed is the best and most sincere in comparison with the rest of the reactors!

[@user-ex1kg6yf2l]

После прослушивания этой песни в исполнении Тины, версию драгон форс больше не слушаю...слушаю только в исполнении Тины))

[@vadymkvasha4556]

No way, I put my like when I want!)) Not to forgot)

[@janihaavisto79]

Tina is very skilled for sure. She should do would tours on some band.

[@denisjammet9487]

Tina éblouit à l'infini le firmament comme l'explosion d'un soleil qui dure encore après sa disparition de l'univers.❤

[@guybrutin6398]

Oui, je partage volontier votre poésie. Elle est éblouissante à l'infini. Les commentaires sont multiples. Parmi tous ceux là, revient le coté irréel de Tina. Les qualificatifs manquent, tant Elle subjugue par tant de facilité et même une certaine désinvolture à la fin de ses prestations.

[@antragram]

Elle est de retour et elle est toujours aussi envoutante.

[@hapkrs]

Wooooooh good old ric flair legand. Great tune she played that 99.99 percent blew my mind. Woooh wooooh wooooooh. Bounce off the ropes elbow drop bounce off the ropes again drop the knee.

[@sloankettering3884]

great video David. love learning more about music as you review.

[@patches_]

her cover of the solo is the best by far

[@vichi2059]

im not qualified to critique or rate this girl. she is so far beyond my level of knowledge

[@guybrutin6398]

Moi aussi.

[@Biomirth]

Whenever I see a reaction to Tina's covers of Fire and Flame *or* For the Love of God I have to watch it. It's like a rule. I really enjoyed your reaction and analysis. I was pretty impressed with how thoughtful you are and picking up on so many nuances of her play. Her videos are as if you could catch a shooting star and slow it down and watch it over and over all night.

[@jeffmiller2012]

She played parts of the song in a different octave and uses the wahwah in the solo which wasn't used in the original. I think she killed it. Doing covers of songs doesn't mean doing them note for note. It's about putting yourself into it.

[@AnthonyKellett]

This is great, but it's the only track she seems to have done in several takes (albeit that may have been for production/camera angle purposes). In my opinion, Vai's For the Love of God, Becker's Altitudes, and Moore's The Loner are "it". I believe you're yet to do the latter two? 🤔

[@THEDavidHeretic]

December.

[@gregoryjamessnayer7271]

Hi, David. I have been viewing your reaction to Tina's rendition of "Moonlight Sonata" and I was not too sure whether to agree with the score you gave her then. It was only after viewing your reaction to her renditions of "For the love of God" and "Through the fire and flames' where you referred back to "Moonlight Sonata" that it became clear to me how you went about assessing her. I agree with you saying that a musician to have not only the technic (the know how) but especially how to apply it in order to enhance the dynamics to the point of making it your own - "giving your own spin on it" as you put it. I remember back in 1980, when I and another music student were asked to play a piece that we were both assigned to prepare for our practical examinations. This was aarranged precisely to demonstrate how two people would play the exact same piece but with altogether different approaches and interpretations thereof. In Tina's "covers", it is not only a matter of giving her own interpretation but how she puts it across. Where, when and how she places key dynamic instances, as well as the speed and accuracy she applies, are what makes her different from so many musicians out there. These are a few important things that would generally distinguish the really good musicians from the rest. I support you in your reactions and your evaluation on these three pieces of Tina S. I am actually curious to find your reaction to all the other pieces she put out there, simply because your scores make sense after the explanations you give as to how you arrive there. Thank you for that.

[@oktopuce6760]

I really like your reactions, you have the background to really appreciate it

[@dominikminiof1476]

Uwielbiam ją. Lubię na nią patrzeć słychać. Nie lubię koncertów ale na jej bym poszedł.☺️

[@ejjordan3984]

She's awesome love your reaction to her playing I need to hear more off her I wish I could play as good as her I really need to get a guitar

[@jjmailman]

I wondered when you’d get around to this. I knew you’d give it the appreciation it deserved! She was 15 when this was recorded. Personally, I enjoy her rendition of “Moonlight Sonata” more. To “me” - TTFATF by DF is an exercise in self indulgence. But, FYI, there *IS* a mash-up of her and Junna playing TTFATF. (Just search “Tina S, Junna”. Fun to watch! On a different note: Did you see that Lovebites found a new bassist? (Yeah, they’re my favorite band as well!) Her name is Fami (sounds like Tommy). She has 650k+ subscribers on YT. (LB only has 85k+) They made the announcement on 10/15. Fami made the announcement on her own channel on 10/17. There “IS” a video of her announcement, with English subtitles. She’s pretty excited!! Last thing - You did a reaction to LB’s “Frozen Serenade”, but were reduced to the studio version. Here’s the live version from 2021 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5aboYSMqpKFhJo

[@ericsicard910]

And I don’t if this was mentionned in some other comments but Tina is playing here both guitar tracks (Herman’s and Sam’s) as she learned it from guitar hero and Herman explained they had to merge these that way when they uploaded it to GH

[@badmotherrucker]

The Vigier Excalibur is an awesome guitar. One day, I’ll get the Shawn Lane signature.

[@zaluq]

She dont even break a sweat

[@Phoenix-ci7ix]

Tina S is someone I used to listen and follow for a long time. She is just an incredible ,super talented, genuis , technically perfect guitarist. Only flaw she has was her blank expression. Other than that she was a prodigy. Sadly she just disappeared from social media and stopped uploading videos. Hope she comes back to KZbin and mesmerizes us once again. 🤘🔥

[@ejjordan3984]

Her emotions is in that guitar making is sing for us and moving us at her skill

[@everythinggaming643]

Bruh thank you SO much for the warning about pausing in advance !!

[@grahamkey8496]

How refreshing, being asked not to click Like till after watching the whole video. I feel like clicking Like just because you said that.

[@danbuter]

She's fantastic! Funny thing is, every time Herman Li watches people play this song, he says the song sucks, and other DF songs are better. :)

[@michaelvanhouten01]

Maybe she will blow the ending... 🤣dude she plays everything and then blows everyone's mind. 15 years of age... can you even imagine how good she is by now

[@GuitarDreamer]

Tina S is back, looks a little different but she’s back!

[@LaPanda]

I love Tina S and this cover and I watch it very often. I love watching her play this difficult song while chewing gum and looking totally bored 😆

[@vidiveniviciDCLXVI]

I used to think Jimi Hendrix was the most natural guitarist I ever seen, but I was wrong.

[@Alicatt1]

Tina S has a lot of her practice videos removed from her channel, such a shame as it showed how she built the technique to be able to play this. Thanks for doing this Mr. Heretic

[@colonelbasic9736]

I read somewhere she doesn't play anymore and went on to study law. I can't verify this tho .

[@user-wg1bj1jg1i]

She's back and in a new band on her channel

[@jasonhutcherson6224]

Brother you are Forgetting it takes 2 Duel leads to play this song. She had to make Tiny variations. And your right Steve Vai told her She Played his Song flawlessly and Almost made me look bad Shes Younger and Prettier than me as well..... Lol

[@glenkelley6799]

Great points. Technique without emotion is flat and lifeless. Tina has both in spades.

[@THSeaNotes]

Last Christmas Eve, 2022, I saw Santa land his sleigh on my neighbor’s roof and I asked him how much did you pay for that sleigh? Santa said, nothing. It was on the house!!! I still have hope that Tina will step out of the shadows.👍

[@blastingweevil2968]

do not forget Dragon force has 2 Guitar players playing 2 different parts // she combines them both for her cover.....

[@JoFa876]

The only thing that startles me is that she isn't Japanese in a maid costume. She picks like Takayoshi Ohmura.

[@ninhaquelo]

I like her rendition of Altitudes by Becker

[@THEDavidHeretic]

December.

[@ninhaquelo]

@@THEDavidHeretic love your reactions!

[@zephyr835]

What about the Guitar Hero story you mentioned before the solo? 😮

[@THEDavidHeretic]

Awww crap I forgot about that.....I'm sure it'll come up in another video.

[@yogaandi8256]

Tina s is amazing.... Next please reaction young guitarist from Indonesia AYU GUSFANZ (cover) : - Gemini by John Petrucci - Blitzkrieg by Yngwie Malmsteen Thanks ..love from Indonesia.. 👍💕

[@dragohorvat8325]

best of the best

[@payrosp]

I only understand 75% of your comments, but they reassure me that I have seen these videos for at least 7 years and that I was wondering if it was normal ........ 😮😮. very good analysis (the best on tina s I think ) Sorry , google traduction. Try altitude by Jason Becker.... merci! A frog eater 😀

[@THEDavidHeretic]

December

[@KevinDurbin]

Appreciate your comments David; honestly I was a bit surprised by your high(er) score, but I agree with your assessment. Tina exceeded all expectations here, yeah. You should consider Tina's version of Jason Becker's Altitudes................. might be another winner winner, chicken dinner.............lol

[@THEDavidHeretic]

December

[@KevinDurbin]

@@THEDavidHeretic Looking fwd to it!

[@wertz987]

Is there a vidio that don't have the background track because that's all I hear 😅

[@billozzy5760]

And something else......she plays the solos of both guitarists.....😁

[@michaelvanhouten01]

What she did, she did it by here one.......

[@cassobiker]

i miss Tina S so much 😥

[@michaelsmith9544]

Her Jason Becker cover is awesome too.

[@THEDavidHeretic]

December

[@watcher1200]

Unfortunately she went back to her home planet 👽. I hope she comes back someday 🎸

[@gushy7438]

David, I want to ask a question. I noticed that she did both the Herman and Sam solos at the same time. Which makes the performance even more mind-blowing. Shouldn't he play only Lee's or only Sam's solo? The original song features two guitarists. Was it just me that made an impression or is Tina simple from another planet?

[@THEDavidHeretic]

There's no reason a single guitarist couldn't do both solos, other than 2 guitarists wanted to split the solos and share the responsibility. So she decided to play both of them herself, I say good on her for doing it.

[@A5p3r07h]

Your turn.

[@svilenp]

👍👍

[@jurgenkreitz4059]

This is a song for Mrs Heretic 😊✌️

[@r1learner178]

Where is she now?

[@brianmette]

I agree with you on , that her version of " For the love of god" is better

[@SargonnasIncarnate]

@Dave Man, I really like your reactions. I'm sorry about the whole non-monetize-thingamabob you told me about (in another react) that all goes to Google when I despaired the amount of adds. Henceforth, I´ll battle my way through fucking commercials, just for you.

[@THEDavidHeretic]

It's all good no worries.

[@hardcorechristopher9174]

Great cover

[@bernardrudelle9274]

How is it possible ?

[@owlsflyingaway]

Hey man, lets get another rammstein reaction- what about the live performance of keine lust in paris?

[@Dutch1961]

You forgot to mention she was chewing gum while she was playing this.

[@aukebakker887]

What if I tell you that her rendition of 'Altitudes' of Jason becker will beat this song! Hope more people will ask you to review it, coz its MINDBLOWING.

[@ericsicard910]

I have the same opinion, Altitudes please

[@THEDavidHeretic]

December

[@aukebakker887]

@@THEDavidHeretic Thanks! You wont regret it :)

[@janihaavisto79]

Covers aren't suppose to be note to note usually. You need to put your own flavor on it.

[@THEDavidHeretic]

I agree, I love it when bands and artists put their own spin on covers. But there are a lot of artists and bands that prefer playing the songs note for note exactly like the originals, especially tribute bands.

[@C3RT4IND34TH]

Where does she go from here? She quits

[@nimaside]

As a lead guitarist myself I have certainly disagreed with your opinion in many videos about how the right hand picking is more important than the left hand's gymnastics. They are both important, but I feel you shrug off a lot of what technical guitarist do with their left hand because you are so tuned into the picking hand. Not just speed, but certain amazing or bad Vibratos, bends, partial bends, ghost bends Etc. There is so much nuance that the left hand does. Anyway, I just thought of an argument against the picking hand being the most important. Steve Vai has recently released a full instrumental song that is played with nothing but his left hand. The inspiration being that his picking hand was injured. Now think about that. There's no playing a full song with just your picking hand and open strings. (well some basic crap maybe, and the beginning of "Nothing Else Matters"). Anyhow playing one handed legato style is not anything new to Vai and Satriani, that being one of their signature playing styles. Anyhow...I have spoken. Rant over lol.

[@jeanclaudevillenave4484]

Alors notre petite française déchire non? Quand on parle hendrix avec tout le respect que j' ai mais quand l'élève depasse le maître

[@MrDempmeister]

My favorite part about this cover is that she plays this monster if a song while chewing gum. And when she’s done she’s super casual about it, like it was as easy as counting to 3. I totally agree with you David, she is a professional and can’t be held to lesser standards than any other professional regardless if age. Some people are just born with talent and therefore they can be at a pro level much earlier than others.

[@sampsell123]

I don't think a song cover can be copyright protected, but then again this is youtube.

[@THEDavidHeretic]

Trust me, I deal with it every single day. It's a very real thing.

[@sampsell123]

Fair enough, can't argue with that.

[@khishalalfitrah437]

how are u sir next new song alip ba ta JULI 97 with electric guitar

[@williammolina9792]

RIP. TINA S

[@jindas4217]

She left KZbin and went to college/University to pursue a different career if I remember correctly. Also, left due to the fact that she was being harassed. But, if she comes back someday in the future I will be there.

[@MrDempmeister]

Ideally she finds some awesome people and forms a kickass band that will melt the faces of the haters. It’s a big loss for the world of music if she pursues another career. It’s like if Da Vinci didn’t pursue a career as a painter and instead went for a career as a lawyer.

[@bngeohealth]

And to chew gum while playing

[@KHZ1986]

dosnt want copyright but plays ric flair promo lmao just sayin

[@THEDavidHeretic]

@@KHZ1986 Didn't get hit for the Flair promo, just the song.

[@KHZ1986]

@@THEDavidHeretic i was just bein a smart ass lol but copyright does suck i agree...

[@wmscott1975]

She’s 15 here…….I’ve just grabbed my dinky & threw it in the bin out front. I’m done 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@wertz987]

Herman can't even play like the original 😅

[@Sdroiden]

I like Cole Rolland's version better

[@louiscirigliano5896]

I'd say do a inception reaction and watch Herman Li's reaction to this video. While we're at it, Gee Anzalone also did a reaction video to Junna's drum cover of this song as well.