Pioneer p40, getting an old forgotten chainsaw running!!

[@ozdatman]

i have had it where the gasket between the reed block and the carb isn't big enough. Had the problem on my P41, had me scratching my head. Pioneers and Homelites are some of the best sounding saws. Reeds forever!

[@shelbywilson114]

Yes i had to put the old gasket back in. I had same problem on p41

[@tdawg8605]

Put a carb kit in my p25 pioneer but it still fires and dies, maybe fuel lines, maybe seals, a work in progress for sure. The paint was all there till I started cleaning it up. That's when the paint started falling off... she's turdy alright but I can't wait to get her cutting again. Great video Tinman look forward to any and all pioneer vintage content. Sweet p40.... good stuff always.... Mahalo Tinman🤙🤙🤙...Tdawg.

[@tdawg8605]

@Mike Fu carb kit RK-14HU

[@Slane583]

We still have the power head to my grandfathers old Pioneer Farm-Saw. I remember watching him and my father in the woodlot during the summer cutting trees for some fire wood before winter came. They had two Pioneer Farm-Saws, one in black and orange, which it the one we still have and the other in Pioneer Green/Yellow. The green/yellow one was traded in toward a Husqy some years ago as it had some problems. But they were always treated as the "just-in-case" saw for when the trees got too big. They always ran smaller Homelites for limbing and buckin the wood into portions. :)

[@waynegriswold8953]

!!!!HECK YEAH TINNIE!!!! I LOVE SEEING 'OL SAW RUNNING ONCE AGAIN!!!!

[@Patrick-kc5ur]

I have the P40 also. Great that you got her runnin' again. Thanks!

[@derekclark5682]

I have an old pioneer sitting in my shed. Hmmmm may have to get it out and tinker on it. Great sounding saw you have there.

[@jerrystott7780]

I used a old hand me down pioneer back in 1970, it was my first saw. Don't remember the model, but it was heavy enough to put hair on your chest after a few weeks of packing it in steep mountains. 😆 have a great day.

[@chapsmaketory3960]

I kinda get a chubby when they fire up for the first time!!!😂..i don't have any homelites or pioneer but your really making me want one!!!

[@markzadlock4229]

Those pioneers run forever ! Such great saws. Ran a p62 years ago n trying to find one to buy now.

[@DaveyBlue32]

It’s definitely oiling great! Sounds good brother!!! She’s choochin’!!!! That’s a beautiful little full wrap handle… I freakin love that green color! I just got a homelite 1050! 100cc quad reed valve momma… I can’t wait to jump into this old girl! 😂👍. I’m starting to really like the older one’s! They all need a pipe! Those P40’s are a great size saw too!!! Me too! I’m in love with it too! A 28 with skipper!!! I’m not a canook but that makes me proud for y’all!!! Right on!!!

[@tinmanssaws]

1050s are cool!!

[@johnwoody4905]

i am so old i remeber them. nice saw love the sound. take care, be safe and well.

[@lajoskutas302]

The saw looks old man, but it's body is magnesium, made in 70's feels nice!

[@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849]

This was a blast! I continue to marvel at how great of a job you do of taking us along every step of the way, not hiding one single thing! Awesome! 👍💪

[@tinmanssaws]

Thanx buddy

[@brendanthebattlerstafford5145]

I’ve been looking forward to you hooking into this one for ages. I’m sitting on two P41S chainsaws and am excited to see what you can make of yours as a point of reference. Good luck Tinman and keep pulling fat chips 👊

[@stevengamsby5344]

Love those saws I have a P42 and a poulan pro 655 witch is a P62 just newer great saws but my favorite saw is my McCulloch pro Mac 8200 now great show my friend thank you for your videos

[@robertsimard735]

Great instructive video. Thanks for taking the time to share.

[@daveovington5525]

Awesome , thanks for this video !! I have the identical saw ,has loads of compression and spark but isn't getting fuel so now I know to change the line and do the carb. I had a feeling that I'd have to do the carb and now I know . Such a cool saw though. I also have a 1074 but it's not getting spark so that's another day project lol.

[@jjpdawgs8956]

Enjoyed the video Tinman!! Got me interested in getting and old power saw!

[@shaner67]

IT'S ALIVE!!! Nice to hear that baby run Tinman

[@stevetheriault4164]

TINMAN THE PIONEER FACTORY WAS 40 MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE ,,PETERBOROUGH ONTARIO MY LANDLORD KNOWS SOMEONE THAT WORKED THERE ,,THE MAN GAVE MY LANDLORD A P42 WITH NO HOURS ON IT PRETTY COOL SAWS BRAND NEW NOS

[@tinmanssaws]

Thats cool.

[@neilcurtis2741]

I can smell the two stroke from here…. Oh wait that’s me. Love those reed ported pioneers. If one of your holzfforma bars is a husky mount it should slide right on

[@andybecker2693]

I’m 51 now and I remember dad teaching me to mix fuel for a 1960’s Lawn Boy mower. It had to be mixed at 16:1 or an 8 oz. can of Lawn Boy mix oil. In 1979 dad bought a new Lawn Boy and it was 32:1 so dad bought a Ratio Rite measuring cup. He put a mark on 4 oz. to help me. I have loved 2 strokes in every form since then from radio control to motorcycles to saws.

[@felixbinette9752]

Well I love the carb kit info thought I was screwed up for buying the cheap kits but they work. Cool Saw that one came to life quick

[@chrismacmillan3535]

I love my Pioneers. Have both a P40 and a P41, they are my favorite saws.

[@aeridyne]

Wow you got lucky, seemed like just needed the carb tightened or the jets just right but seals seem OK! That's something I always find amazing about some old saws when the seals are still good and they are friggin 50 years + old. Just amazing and you'd never expect that. good old saw.

[@tazman-kennyfuller]

She's a runner. I love how the Ole Pioneer oilers flat out oil. For sure long bar saws. Love it. 🌲❤🌲👊🪓

[@scavuman]

Awesome, I have a P-40 that I intend to get running, this video was inspirational, Thank You.

[@johnrosier1686]

The old saw sounded real good once you got it going. Great to see and hear the old saws running.

[@welshwarrior797]

Excellent video my friend. I just purchased a nice looking little Homelite super xl 12. dont see many of them around my area and i wanted one as a kid. Its in the post so as you can imagine im like a kid waiting for xmas 😀😀😀😀😀 The small things right😀😀

[@cameronhamer9432]

My first saw was a pioneer, heavy weighed almost as much as I did . Like you videos , keep them coming The best fuel line

[@patrickbass3118]

I have a P40 it's my favorite saw. Awesome content tin man!

[@joutdoorsmen23]

Awesome Tinman it’s so cool to see that’s is so simple sometimes to fix them!!

[@tinmanssaws]

Once in a awhile I get lucky!!

[@nathanielschofield2729]

@@tinmanssaws Yeah I been buying old saws ever since i started watching bukin then found the tinman,,, I got a p25, xl 76 and just got a homelite c51, they all run great.

[@jimgroulx3956]

Hey Tinman, thanks for the vid. As usual you are a wealth of information but best of all its great getting up on a cold northern Sat AM and having a vid to watch…..kinda gets the juices going. I have a pro mac 650 with almost no hours thats been in storage for 30-35 years and its time to get at er. I think that saw is a little different for a Mac. I believe it was actually made in California probably at the time the company was in transition.

[@mrxlh]

Always nice when you can get 1 running in short order without much time/money invested in it.

[@wildefox1478]

Just found your channel and subbed, I love old vintage saws and collect them, just recently got my Homelite C5 running and it's a quad reed saw, 4 reeds! That old Pioneer sure sounds great!

[@newagelumberjack]

I just picked up my first mcculloch 10-10! This is going to help me so much getting it back to running! Thank you for the info

[@ChevyGuy70]

P40’s have such a good look about them 😎 love your videos Tinman 👍

[@kingsaws]

Sweet saw man! Just picked up a p28 the other day

[@jasonmercer9962]

Run some Echo Red in that P40 and it will clean up that piston. Fun video.

[@justinweaver8787]

Sweet ol saw buddy hope u are well. Have a good weekend.

[@rodneyyazzie3739]

Nice saw bubby, always brother 👌 love the videos and info, be safe and take care of yourself and family.

[@claudehebert3131]

My father had the exact same saw if I recall (I don't think it's a P41). 1975 vintage or so. I've inherited this saw, I'll have to look in the shed. My saw is a little weak in compression, probably worn-out piston rings. It's been modded from points ignition to electronic ignition by our local shop and I remember my father saying it gave it a little bit more power. He used pioneer saws as a lumberjack in the 60's and said to me that, contrary to the McCullochs and some other brands, never tun at WOT through entire cuts, as you'll end blowing these saws. They have a lot of RPM in them. Always throttle them through a cut. That said my father always ran his saws a little bit on the oily side (a little bit more oil than necessary) It is probably why the saw survived years of use and abuse (18-25 cords per winter). I will try to revive my saw in a more or less distant future; the chain and plates are also worn out.

[@davidheron6853]

Great to see the old saws get another shot at livin.

[@davesmith6929]

I was given an old homelite mini chainsaw, it's tough to start but runs real good once it's started, probably needs the carb cleaned

[@NothingButChainsaws]

Sounds pretty awesome, I put a Husqvarna 272xp carb on a p50. Fit pretty good!

[@justinweaver8787]

Cool buddy

[@olafvidar9315]

Love that saw! Really cool Tinman.

[@timidater4803]

love your vids! dont know how you guys take that nasty weather!!!

[@tinmanssaws]

We're used to it.

[@timidater4803]

@@tinmanssaws I guess!!LOL! Im too old for that cold!!

[@brucenicov1224]

That’s a great beast!! Nice one bud!! I’ve got a soft spot for old Pioneers. I’ve got an old 2073 that needs work on the recoil.

[@rwd1973]

It seems similar to my Partner 350 from the 80's. I got it for free from a friend to cut some fire wood and it works perfect. Impressingly light weight.

[@samstone2772]

P26 has aluminum pull cord spool rather then plastic. I swapped it out in my p41. Plastic just can't take the stress.

[@BrucesShop]

I love this Bruce from Alberta.

[@tinmanssaws]

Hey Bruce

[@307j.o.a.t9]

Nice ol saw! Cant wait to see it cutting... maybe in may or june...

[@230e4]

Great to hear that ol pioneer run! Grease the clutch drum bearing and cut some wood.

[@Righound4]

Just a carb job and the old saw runs! Sounds nice, time to cut 1/2 a load on the wood Wiesel with that unit!

[@motordiverse1276]

Hey ! Finaly it run well. When rep kitting a carburetor...could it not be like air bubbles in the carb...needed to be pushed through ...and thats why it bugged town several times before it settled ? Nice saw !

[@ktrudeau340]

I’m super excited. I have a farm saw that I inherited from the dad in-law. I’m looking forward to getting it going and eventually porting it.

[@simonbrown4314]

I have one too and it pulls like mad. I’m still tinkering with it but it is a good saw

[@zachmetcalf3892]

The P20 I picked up last year was Carboned up the same way. Good to know why it was like that. Thanks!

[@Syncop8rNZ]

What a lovely saw - a cool design and a nice amount of 'beausage'.

[@erwinwilde3109]

Love my p -40. Just a great running powerful saw. Found out after watching this video I'm missing the big rubber carb boot though. Have a spare? Yeah, this winter has been brutal. Massive amounts of snow with temperatures 10 degrees below normal. As I type this we're getting our third blizzard in a month.

[@jamiedalluge9472]

We think alot alike my friend. I think that saw looks amazing as well as is

[@fredhonaker5865]

That’s very cool , when I was a kid I remember my dad had a pioneer looked just like that , he swore by the pioneer saw’s 😊

[@chrisssmallengines7163]

I have a P51 , the cylinder looks great . Wondering about the pull start .

[@michaelgarrow3239]

Love the patina!

[@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648]

Sounds like you got it going good, now to see it cutting

[@brianking1138]

That's a cool old saw and it sounds great .

[@flmulcahy]

Thanks for the tutorial. I have a P50 I am about to tackle.

[@jeremyhurtubise6551]

Awesome video i was excited to hear it run

[@timwatson7254]

That old saw was the best back in the day had a new one cutting pulp wood in the 70s

[@darrenhawken9766]

Great vid , got the same saw , not got around to.it yet , what size /diameter is your fuel line? Many thanks.

[@ryanmoy625]

I really like your videos TM!

[@mikecook2714]

I had one like this over 30 years ago. It ate wood like candy

[@donjohnson9170]

Back in the late 70s early 80s. We sale lot pioneers. For pioneer northwest I now have 4 of them that working

[@MrRasmusolsen]

Hello Tinman Morning coffee and vintage saw video, great! When are you doing a follow-up video on this machine¿¿¿ Keep up the good work Rasmus, Denmark

[@stevetheriault4164]

HOMELITE coils work on pioneers

[@skravlesen]

I inherited an old Mac 2-10 after my great grandfather. The label on top say 20:1 SAE 40/50, or 40:1 premium two stoke oil. The whole thing smells like hydraulic oil, so I recon thats what he used as bar oil in the 60-70's. Can't wait to get that Mac running after finishing my second porting project😁

[@aaronpowell4885]

That was someone's partner in the woods🌲 worked hard and pretty well maintained! I try to keep a roll of pigmat around, put sheets of it under saws on my shelf and use it on the bench for those messy projects!

[@siegingclan2070]

I’m putting a hyway kit on a husky 350 and the rings they sent won’t even fit in the cylinder And the piston is pretty snug in the cylinder looks a little to big in my opinion have you ever had that issue

[@bradslepicka4203]

Hey, thanks for the great video! Would you happen to know where I could get a rewind spring for the p41?

[@glenspryszak6005]

You would probably like to see my restored P28. Original parts. Was in storage for 23 years and runs.....And has almost all the paint on it.... I found it needed a fast idle too... Who do you use for a reliable parts supplier for these old saws?

[@kenwheeler9235]

Same with the pull start I have a p61 needs the guts for it

[@stevencrowe1523]

I would love to find someone to port my poulan pro 455 and my poulan pro 655bp and pioneer p60 all run great just would love to have them ported

[@tomnielsen6439]

Where do you get your carb kits from in the little plastic container. Are all the tillitoson hs take the same kit?

[@thesmallwoodlot433]

Ok Tinman, I will send an email when I did into my skilsaw, ( also a PM Canada saw),just got my mac 10/10 A going and into some wood, and will soon have my homelite super xl in some wood!may need to know who your carb kit suppliers are, as everyone one I have gotten here has been missing gaskets or something else!

[@jtrocktree5409]

Waiting for you to find a late 70's jobu. Saw , made in east Europe, used them in northern Maine, screaming banshee .

[@nathanielschofield2729]

Hey tinman< guess you got to chop off a finger to get that together.. lol. I got a p25 Love to see one ported..

[@pioneerman8467]

I've gotten a few of those",plus a late 1958 1959 pioneer 1700 that came from my dad

[@Revellersaws]

Tore down a saw the other day that had BOTH the ethanol and non ethanol versions of the pump flappermejingy installed. Still not sure how they decided what order to put them in......

[@tinmanssaws]

I've seen that on a couple carbs. Both saws didn't run too good

[@joeykelly2195]

Hello Tinman. I got a 266 and it needs a top cover. Do you know what all will interchange and work. And will a full wrap 372 fit the 266. I appreciate all the info.

[@darrelljohnson4658]

Nice work sawrus good 👍

[@bonzaibarty]

Good job! I have a p,40 and a p60. Do you have parts for sale for me then?

[@williamemerson1799]

My question is off topic for this video (apologies) but I noticed after you did the muffler modification on your 590 and took it out for a test drive that you didn't use the decompression button. Has it been modified or do you just find it unnecessary ? I just got a 590 not long ago to replace my old 500 and I'm trying to learn everything I can about it. Excellent channel by the way. Just found it. 👍🍻

[@williamemerson1799]

Well, alrighty then.

[@wildmanbill69]

Where do you buy those carb kits from and what part number are they please!?

[@clarencetrice4442]

HEY tinman buddy I also remember pioneer chainsaws when I was a kid in the 1970S you 😉😀 don't 👀 see them any more cutting wood all of those are old OLD SCHOOL I LOVE a another animal by their self 😀😄 OMG 2 2 2022

[@mikeremski2102]

Turdy? I'd say "sleeper". Just like the old station wagon with a supercharged engine you see cruising down the highway.

[@Saw_Squatch]

Not to take away from the pioneer, cause I really dig 'em, but I've been looking through your channel and I don't think I've seen any blue homelites. Now that's something I wouldn't mind seeing on your bench.

[@DaveyBlue32]

TinMan on the 90 degree handpiece… could you find the right bolt and make two of the little collar’s or collet’s that hold the burr? I can’t order them from the company (in China) little language barrier and I have two with bad collet’s???? Help???

[@clarencetrice4442]

HEY tinman take the screen out of the muffler the chainsaw will get more air and breath better muffler can't be stopped up w carbon straight exhaust pipe will also help alot 😉👍OMG 2 2 2022

[@jodygallant2356]

Hey Tinman new to your channel, what 28" bar would you put on a P41? Thanks

[@hosocat1410]

What's a good source for tygon? I see it on Amazon, but I try to avoid Amazon when I can?

[@maxwebster7572]

I would have to disagree on scraping the carbon without pulling the jug. The hole in the wrist pin is right in the centre and it is so easy to drop a piece of carbon vs leave it there. You could just as easily have carbon behind a ring so I'd pull the head and throw seals in it for the extra $15. Good job getting it going, I have just seen more guys cause big issues cleaning things. 24:1, 4cid 9500 rpm, 1973-6. Memory lane.