A package from Wolf Creek Saw Shop showed up!! Hyway vs Meteor

Got a box of parts from Wolf Creek Saw Shop.
let's look at some of the parts available from Wolf Creek as well as compare 272xp hyway and meteor top ends and pistons..
thanks for watching
For more info on these parts or to purchase your own check out
www.wolfcreeksawshop.com

[@StephenSamuelsen]

Hey Tinman, I've been watching your channel for almost a year now, just wanted to say thanks for all the great content! Just finished up rebuilding a homelite super mini sl, and I definitely could not have done it without your channel man.

[@tinmanssaws]

Right on!! My first experience as a kid with a chainsaw was my dad's homelite super mini!!!

[@aaronpowell4885]

So grateful for Wolf Creek and the few comparable companies supporting our hobbies and this industry❤ excited to see how much those farmertec bottom ends can handle!

[@afleetcommand]

Great video and "Ditto" on approach to video's. Years back would use those 272 pistons as a starting point for popups for AM "Big bores". Works pretty well. Not earth shattering but fun :) Same thing works with a 268 piston for the 50mm OE's. Think primary compression & intake duration

[@tinmanssaws]

I'll probably slip a 268 piston into a 50mm 372 sooner then later. Also have a 2165 and 365 xtorq in the pile as well. Should be lotsa fun this winter.

[@cargotoolshop5319]

@@tinmanssaws 2165 was 65cc and the 365 x torque is 72cc, all part numbers are the same as a 372 except for the transfer ports that bolt on are restricted and make less power, stay strong guys

[@afleetcommand]

@@cargotoolshop5319 A 2165 has the 48mm original edition cylinder. The 2166 is essentially a choked down 372 x-torque. Simply a "fin" in the removable transfer cap makes the 365/2166 out of a perfectly good 2172/3772Xt. The 2165 has the 48mm OE cylinder. Smaller transfers than the 50mm OE cylinders. BUT a bit of a sleeper done right. Hint...they ALL are under carbureted and can loose .02" on the cylinder base along with corrective porting to really sing w/o major surgery

[@DaveyBlue32]

@@tinmanssaws grinding those baffles out of the 365 transfer’s and having a 372 is one bonus on the 365 Xtorq… I do Walt’s little intake grinding to let some fuel mixture into those two fresh air dumps into the Xtorq cylinder… making sure that there’s some oil hitting that hot piston makes a ton of sense!!! I’m not very excited to have raw air hitting my piston’s! I’ve got 4 372 Xtorq’s now and if I didn’t really want to be able to use these oem carbs and elbows I’d take them back to oe… talking with a tree removal buddy who had his equipment stolen… he was happy to be getting the Xtorq without any real porting or anything… just a 50mm saw that runs and starts will blow his skirt up! So I’m going to do Walks little intake trick and give him a 372 and on of the little spacer’s that my buddy Chad made me so he can run any Stihl 3/8’s bar on it… his 261cm has been holding the load and if he has a big day then I bring a couple big saw’s to blast it up! I’ve been looking for a little commercial property to put a couple shipping container (kilns) on so I can have firewood ready to market in two weeks not two years… only way I can do it because there’s no way I can afford that much commercial property around here… then hopefully get a little bandmill and take advantage of all this hardwood getting dumped… be really awesome to be unloading my first packed container kiln of 2x10’s of oak and walnut and ash and cherry!!! I’ll find a market for it!!! 😂😂😂. I really want to build the container kiln that runs on scrap wood and a chicken house fan! LMFFAO!!! Stay safe out in the trees! God Bless!!! Super Awesome to see the Guru Walt commenting on the TinBasher’s Channel!!! You two should do some kinda collaboration… even if it’s one of those group video deals! Hoping old spike 60 is still happy and healthy too!!! I’ve learned so much from you guys!!! I’ve been thinking about gutting the whole rubber boot on the Xtorq and just letting the fuel mixture flow wherever it will… I know that that’s probably not the best idea… but I’d really like to get fuel charge through those fresh air ports???

[@DaveyBlue32]

The meteor ms650 piston is a nice option for the 372 BigBore jugs too… gives you a little popup … I just used the bottom ring groove for a single ring your down into your upper ring groove if you want to be on your domed piston anyway…

[@erikredbeard87]

Very excited about upcoming videos for the 272xp series. I want to see how similar or different my personal port job to my 272xp is compared to a Tinmanized 272xp. Can't wait to see more!

[@d-railfpv9315]

I am just waiting on my 372 big bore with a pop up piston from wolf creek saw shop!! Can't wait cheers from the east koots in bc!!

[@JasonLange-r7o]

I have used Wolf Creek saws before. They are awesome. They carry a lot of parts. I use hiway parts and forester bars. They are very good to deal with. I recommend dealing with them.

[@garyhenion9459]

That’s funny, I was just looking into piston and cylinder kits for my 371 Considering a rebuild this winter

[@DavidBergman1776]

I saw that Jonsered in the background of your vids. I have 2 (one's my dad's, I'm only 15 lol) 2071's, and a 2065 (converted to 75 with an experimental Farmertec Cylinder. Excellent compression on the farmertec actually.) Can't wait to see that saw. You will LOVE it.

[@thebug4046]

I talked to Ryan the other day and mentioned you we had a good chat on eBay he is a awesome guy to deal with! Just ordered a Hyway 575xp top end for a 570xp for a rebuild Experiment! Looking forward to it 🤘🏻🍻

[@petershea3131]

Yey Tinman!! Thank you for sharing 😁 you kick ass

[@stevetheriault4164]

GREAT comparisons thanks for all your hard work and great videos ,hope you and the family are doing well buddy stay safe

[@tinmanssaws]

Hey Stevie

[@Ti22Vehicleservices]

Just bought 3 pop ups from Ryan at wolf creek, they're on their way to the UK as we speak🤘 looking forward to these 372 builds, recently did a 365 XT to 372 conversion but want to port it.. also have a Jonsered 2171 I'm about to dive into, as well as a couple of 48mm saws I need to build! Love that chassis.

[@justinweaver8787]

Very cool stuff there sir.

[@ralph9255]

I just went to Wolf Creek website and they have a 272 pop up piston! I would love to see one used in a build. Thanks again for all the great vids and info.

[@tinmanssaws]

If you go back in the channel I built a 268xp with a 52mm top end and piston last year..turned out to be a good runner.

[@fabzacres-blackcat]

I scooped up a meteor jug and slug from wolf creek for a 272xp build out of a 268 open port gillardoni donor saw. Stihl waiting on intake block and few other parts. The quality of the meteor jug and slug was very good imho. Just did some flow porting on the cylinder and piston and quick timed the piston via the intake skirt. The piston / cylinder clearance was spot on

[@jasonmercer9962]

That 372 Big Bore Kit looks Awesome……. I may need to reach out to Ryan at Wolf Creek and get one shipped out. Good Video Tin Man!

[@mrfirewood6215]

Tinman I built a 372 50mm with ceramic bearings and a 268 piston. It's in one of afleetcommand's videos. It's a snappy Rev saw with ok torque. Planning a 52mm build with the 272 piston.

[@jacobhein4319]

On the topic of cylinders and pistons, i just ordered a wisco 661 piston from ccc! What are your thoughts in running a wiseco piston in a titanikel cylinder? I seen on wolf creek theres a 661 titanikel cylinder. If I remember correctly you ran a wisco piston in a titanikel cylinder on a build for buckin and the rings never seated. 🤔

[@tinmanssaws]

Morning, you are correct the ring on the ccc piston session too hard for the titanikel finnish. With a softer ring I think it would be fine. Thankyou for your support, I appreciate it!!

[@jacobhein4319]

@@tinmanssaws Thank you for all the knowledge you have given the world. It is priceless. I wonder if something could be done so you wouldnt need to use a softer ring on the titanikel cylinders 🤔 I like the idea of using a caber ring.

[@thomaskapetantsis4951]

I love watching your channel, I have learned certain things that I did not ever know. I love your knowledge. I was hoping to get information on certain parts. I heard you use a place called Wolf Creek Saw shop. Are they in Vancouver Canada? I’m in Ontario.

[@tinmanssaws]

They're in Colorado

[@martyrutter3630]

Good parts, when they work like new worth there weigh in gold as the saying goes👍♥️♥️

[@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849]

Great content as always 👍 👏 👌

[@felixbinette9752]

I ve got a couple things also from Wolf Creek great 👍

[@kylethomas5905]

Hey I built a 372xp oe 52 mm highway titanikle big bore and I used a meteor stihl o64 piston flat top with the gasket gave me more distance between the top of the piston and the top ring bc of the grove in the plating rite below the combustion chamber I recommend it, the 064 piston no pop up is about 9 grams lighter than the highway 52 mm pop up for 372. The 064 meteor piston wrist pin to top of piston height is right in between the 372 and 272 plus I gave me room to grow if I pulled it apart and cut a pop up and deleted the base gasket

[@tinmanssaws]

That's interesting. Most guys use a 52mm 272 piston..064 sounds interesting.

[@DaveyBlue32]

The ms650 52mm is a cool option too… it’s right in between those two also… but it’s got more skirt so you can change your timing numbers to suit you better… or it just gives you a little more range! I’m going to have to grab a 064 piston so I can check out it’s fitment for the future builds! Cool information buddy!!! 😉👍

[@mikecole6842]

My 272 has that meteor kit on it and she is a ripper!

[@jameselliott7416]

Hey Tinman, I’m porting my first saw. I’ve always wondered how people machine the pistons without damaging them? Is there some sort of jig you use. I have a lathe doing my base cuts.

[@garykuula4908]

ALWAYS GOOD WATCHING YOUR CHANNEL. I Thankyou for Wolfcreek info. Looking for the source for my dolkita 6100. Blessings to and family.

[@DaveyBlue32]

Old Harvey runs those new west cranks… if it’s good enough for old Harvey then I’d trust them… I’ll take that meteor topend all day over the Hyway!!! Hyway does make a lot of great parts… they got started supplying the Stens company like 30 years ago…I’ve got a super old 353 topend kit that’s Hyway in the Stens box… it’s got it’s HY stamps…LMFFAO! I love the aftermarket!!! Everything has gotten better and better!!!

[@MGVlad-yv4du]

hello! as a final decision, what would you choose between meteor and hyway?

[@hertugen.online]

Difficult to see all details on the video, but I would take Meteor 272 kit over Hyway, top end looks a tad better all around, also nicer casting outside too. Piston looks alot better too.

[@jaydee2620]

So if u don’t have access to equipment to cut the piston down then u might as well buy the oem piston ?? Is that what I am understanding. Machine shop in. My area is not cheap. Maybe it’s time for me to get some machinery.

[@tinmanssaws]

Yes without a lathe an oem piston is your best bet

[@kyleflood6173]

I order from them good products fast shipping i asked him a question never heard back but other than that go to saw parts

[@tdawg8605]

Wolf Creak definitely has nice stuff. Can you explain why some pistons are close window and some are not and the over all effectiveness of the windows. Also would polishing the windows improve or detract air flow and performance. Balance would be an issue for sure. Ok, call me cheap but I buy Adefol top ends at half the price and have had no issues with them. Do get me wrong I would rather shop local or North America at least but where are they getting their parts from... just say'en. Wolf creak is definitely reasonable especially for the quality but twice the price. For personal use I tend to look at price for a commercial builds definitely I would spend the money and would definitely support Ryan. Again just my take, for me. If I was a gozzillionare I would have Hyway or Meteor in all my stuff. Next rebuild will be one or the other for sure. TC Mahalo Tinman 🤙🤙🤙

[@tinmanssaws]

Sounds like a good video idea. I'll have to write that down.

[@jacobhein4319]

@@tinmanssaws I agree, could even get into weight reduction and drilling holes for lubrication as well!

[@daftnord4957]

Got my first husky, 266 and a 268, the 268 has like 105psi but runs good after a cleaning. The 266 is absolutely torched inside and has weak spark. What's the best kit for longevity? And what custom work on the top end can be done to help longevity?

[@tinmanssaws]

Hey check out my 200 series and 266 playlists. Tons of info in there..

[@robcole332]

What’s your feelings on a Stihl 034

[@JAMESHOPKINSIBXCNC]

If the parts make it through your rough handling program they should be great!!! 😂🤣

[@ocsplc]

Tinman: do you think Wolf Creek can find me a Hyway piston and cylinder for the vintage Husky 380 CD circa 78’? It’s 77 cc but is there anyway I can overhaul it with new piston and cylinder? The cylinder bore on my saw is 52mm (2.05 in.)

[@tinmanssaws]

Hi, I don't think hyway makes a cylinder for that saw. You pretty much have to find good used parts for saws like that.

[@ghettotech9617]

wouldnt it be good to get the parts so we can compare them

[@robbam5568]

As anyone made a dome piston like what's in a diesel bc I'm thinking that wood pull in more fuel and air and make more power I did it with a Briggs & Stratton and it wood spark knock bc of how much compression it had

[@DavidBergman1776]

Yep, that's what's called a pop-up piston. It increases the psi by around 10 in cylinders. Essentially what's in the Hyway Titanikel cylinders.

[@brettbrettson69]

Most diesels don't have domed pistons..

[@JAMESHOPKINSIBXCNC]

@@brettbrettson69 most are recessed on top, at least the old 71 series GMs that I had a lot of experience with.

[@brettbrettson69]

@@JAMESHOPKINSIBXCNC the 71 series are some of my favorites ever 🤌🏼🤌🏼

[@byerboys2607]

@@brettbrettson69 yep most are dished for lower compression

[@oakleychurches8378]

Hey tin man I'm from Australia do you know were I could get a echo cs 8001 cylinder from please

[@ToddAdams1234]

What can I do for the oil pump for getting my 372 to oil a 32” bar sufficiently. The factory only called for a 28’ bar maximum but I’m wanting to run the 32” that I have. What do I do?😢

[@tinmanssaws]

That saw should oil a 32 no problem. If it doesn't replace the oil pumpmand you should be good to go.

[@ToddAdams1234]

@@tinmanssaws THX, I’ll try it and see what happens. 🙂

[@shanegeorge7344]

Would that work on a 562 husky

[@keeperofthegood]

Of course they look the same, they come from the same foundry made by the same people and just sold in lots to different retailer clients who then "take it from there". That's just how business works. Many 'name brand' manufacturers if you ask for a factory tour will lead you to the executive offices because all their manufacturing happens in small contracted facilities around mostly China, with or without local assembly due "origin" laws, hence the "assembled in USA" vs the "made in USA". The notable exceptions are companies like Intel, Boeing and Good Year but for everyone else nope it's names, marketing, intellectual property rights etc.

[@thesmallwoodlot433]

Working on a Stihl 048 chainsaw, it does need a complete top end, but when i look up the saw, no one has listings for these parts piston, rings cylinder or anything else, the parts catalog sends me to the 044, 440 , 046 or the 660! Any chance you can help clear up this issue for me, should i look at piston /bore size or a chassis model? Please let me know

[@tinmanssaws]

048 is 52mm bore X 36mm stroke. That's a rare model, I'm.sure if the cylinder was good you could use a pistons from a 272, , 460, 046, 461 or something like that. I've never seen a cylinder for those those..

[@thesmallwoodlot433]

@@tinmanssaws wonder if Ryan could come up with a cross match for it and the ignition system possibly a big bore or stroker kit? Cylinder is trashed as well as the piston and rings

[@tinmanssaws]

@@thesmallwoodlot433 I'm not sure if there's any top ends that would fit. Maybe a 038 magnum or something like that could be made to fit.

[@thesmallwoodlot433]

@@tinmanssaws ok, I will have to contact Ryan tomorrow can you post his information for me

[@thesmallwoodlot433]

@@tinmanssaws I can break out my calipers and measure the bolt pattern , and we can go from there if we have something to compare it to!

[@jamesconnors9388]

Wolfcreek is great

[@michaelrockwell9691]

If Meteor and Hyway were the same price, which one would you buy?

[@tinmanssaws]

It really depends on which saw I'm building and of I'm porting it. Sometimes I like Meteor sometimes its hyway. Either one works good though.

[@Ginos_Driveway]

Hey Tinman have you ever run/ported a McCulloch Pro Mac 1000 or Partner P100?

[@tinmanssaws]

No but I'd like to

[@Ginos_Driveway]

@@tinmanssaws When I get a few more spare parts for mine I should send it up to you. Their really cool saws and with 2100cd bar plates you can run a big mount husky bar.

[@rogercrouse5531]

Hyway 74 degrees is 148 Degrees total Intake .... Wouldn't it be ????

[@tinmanssaws]

I misspoke is all. You are correct

[@antoniomorgado5304]

Hey!

[@tinmanssaws]

Hey

[@ericholbrook3062]

Hey Tinman , how can one contact you to have a saw worked on ?

[@tinmanssaws]

Hi Eric thanks for your interest but I'm not taking on any new work at this time. My email is on my about page if you ever have a question though..

[@larsvegas1505]

meteor is like a very reputable brand from italy though... they make like some performance stuff for scooters (like piaggio)... but also for bigger engines... dont knwo about hyway though (more of a chinese brand)... U should have malossi/polini make some saw cylinders.. now that would be cool...

[@Appytail]

None of them has a kit for a 3120k ... Too bad ...

[@tomknapton5051]

I have a 262 and you turn it into a 272??

[@steelcityperformancesaws]

hey brother its Ryan check your Facebook for a friend request from me. thanks buddy

[@tinmanssaws]

Hey buddy I don't use Facebook book anymore. You can send me an email if you'd like.

[@steelcityperformancesaws]

@@tinmanssaws will do buddy thanks