Buckin's McCulloch Super pro 70 lost spark!! Lets figure it out.

Well the ported super pro was going good right till the point it lost spark. lets dig into it amd see what the issue may be.

[@redrobgmail]

Have been watching you porting saws so much that I want to port my ELECTRIC Homelite LOL. I have received a lot of grief in the past working on point ignition systems that had red or orange fire and not blue fire. I would not let anything go out unless the fire was blue or there would be a comeback for hard or no start. Most of the time the problem was a bad condenser. Enjoy watching you.

[@timfoster7979]

Thanks to you Tinman, I have a Stihl 029 and a XL12 tore down. Both have intermittent or no spark. Walk away! Ordering up the chip thingy now.

[@tazman-kennyfuller]

Great work buddy. Those modules are awesome. I out one on my 81 and it works awesome so far. Much more consistent spark. Thank you Tinman for sharing.love it🌲❤🌲👊🪓

[@loganwhite6403]

I really wanted to give a big thank you tinman you have given me and a lot of people some amazing content an super useful information an its such a good time learning stuff with you an the great community you're making

[@caseycarpenter7043]

You are a GOOD teacher. Cheers 👍

[@lisashier5568]

We have no doubt you will Tinman! We have the faith!

[@111000100101001]

The purpose of the condenser, aka capacitor, is to prevent the points from being burned and pitted by the flyback voltage from the coil. A capacitor fails in one of two ways and affects the spark accordingly: 1) looses capacity value, which won’t affect spark but the points will pit excessively or weld together and then no more spark. 2) slowly internally shorts over time which causes weak spark and misfires, especially when saw warms up. Just about any small engine condenser will work since the magneto ignitions are pretty much the same electrically.

[@antitactical]

Haha. The whole time I was saying "throw an ignition module in that sucker". I know mac purist don't like that but they work. I also try to run NGK plugs in everything.

[@daviddeupree7707]

Thanks for taking us along for the ride we appreciate it! All the best from Northern California 👍

[@jaymissesu]

Hey Tinman, when you install the module.. remove all of the parts for points/condenser.. the new module can bolt right up to the mounting where the condenser bolts behind the flywheel. its-a nice and clean way that-a-way.

[@NickPixelTV]

So a spark plug walks into a bar. Bartender says listen, ill serve you but don’t start anything. The spark plug responds i’ll resistor

[@tinmanssaws]

Hahahaha love it!!

[@stevetheriault4164]

NICK PIXEL🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@austindenotter19]

Stop it!😁😁😁

[@shapeshifter7753]

You get the point

[@kevinmaxam2414]

Another great vid Tinman. Be safe and be careful.

[@KainKustomGarage]

You da man Tinman! I got a Super pro 81 for free thats locked up, hopefully I can get er going!

[@sharkman8810]

Thanks for the good content, and showing the good, the bad, and the ugly. I just picked up a pair of pro mac 610's (not running either) and this saw seems to be very similar. I'm new to chainsaw's and bought these to learn on it was a special of 2 for $45.

[@tinmanssaws]

Hey Steve, those 610s are layed out very similar to tjis saw I think.

[@aarongauthier7428]

I love how you show all the turd saw problems and your echo series has influenced me to start porting👍

[@shapeshifter7753]

Thanks again for putting this together and sharing👍it helps bring up my game immensely. Tin’s da man!

[@retiredwelder]

Looking forward to seeing the points delete and body mounts fix!! Great job Tinman. As always WORK SAFE!!! 😎😎

[@andrewmantle7627]

Nice work Tinman.

[@SonOfLiberty1984]

This really encourages a guy like me... because I have been at those points of frustration. Sometimes a guy has to put it down and walk away for a bit... we have all seen those memes where a man and woman are laying in bed, her thought bubble says "I'm just sure he is thinking about other women" his thought bubble says "Its getting spark and it's getting fuel.... why wont it run???" That's REAL.

[@simpleman4224]

Get er done! That module will fix the problem! Great job buddy with that there mochine!👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@jonathanhall136]

Hi Tinman, thanks for sharing these problem solving videos are good to watch and very helpful.

[@quadvloggs6876]

I had a pioneer super620 and just the 620, in my learning days I accidently try sheared the flywheel key on the super620 and it chipped the crank unfortunately. But got the 620 running it was last ran before ethanol was a thing and the carb diaphragms were perfect still didn't even need the carb kit, by far coolest saw I've seen and I regret selling it as i just buy fix and sell

[@outboardfixer]

I have never seen anyone put an end on a spark plug wire that way. We just put the wire coil or the crimp type end on FIRST ...add a tiny bit of dialectic grease and slide it straight in the boot. no pulling wires around corners.

[@Finom1]

TinMan Bless you for Sharing you Details and Wisdom with us. I love all the Details and close ups. "This Is A Learning Channel", I totally agree with you. You have given me a great Porting and Timing education, Bless you my friend!!!

[@paulmorrey733]

Thanks very interesting

[@felixbinette9752]

Alabama's getting warm. Tinman

[@anthonylandis]

I would love to see how you put a new plug wire on that ignition module

[@jaymissesu]

me too.. and what type of wire did you use? I would try for a resistor-less wire myself. Also note about the spark plugs.. I tried different plugs in my 10-10s the champion works the best. plug should be resistor-less as well if i remember. I also tried different spark plug gaps. i believe for macs its .025

[@jensenwilliam5434]

Thank you!!!

[@MUFFLERDELETE101]

always good content and good video angles..keep them comeing buddy...

[@KowboyUSA]

My ongoing project is a 1978 Husqvarna 480CD. Next to impossible to find parts for. Hasn't run for a year or two here and there because it needed this or that and I couldn't find it. But I've had it since it was new and just not willing to give up on it. It's an oldie and still a goodie when running. We all need challenge to give our lives some flavor. That's mine.

[@scootscoot1920]

Buckin’ you watching? Let us know down below!👇

[@ozdatman]

From the start of the video i was shouting ''Put a chip in it''.lol. Hey mate could you please give the SKF seal numbers out for that saw, I have one(or 2) that I need to replace the seals on. The worst shock I got was working on my old Subaru, I was trying to suss out a problem and grabbed the plug wires while running. Not normally a problem for a mechanic, but this time I was leaning up against the side of the car. The spark arced out through my zipper and Mr Johnson. I new I was alive, haha. Any way seal numbers would be fantastic. Cheers mate.

[@tinmanssaws]

Hey buddy stay tuned, I outlined the seal numbers in one of the next videos.

[@ozdatman]

@@tinmanssaws Joy!

[@mikahakkinen5651]

when its starting to spark on the points,that means typicall its rhe condense badd or dead. condenser make the spark stronger.my self are using 12 volts conderser on 6 volts system.works great

[@anthonymcmahan6373]

I put one of those ignition modules one a stihl 031 AV now that saw runs like a top

[@flatlanderscustomgamecalls4996]

Chip it I have an old mini Mac 6 and the spark would cut in and out at higher rpm’s that saw made me mad and got a time out for a few months until I cleared my head and turned it over with a drill and watched the spark cut out I chipped it and now she runs great

[@ClintsHobbiesDIY]

I know your pain. Those old saws are not for the faint of heart.

[@timfoster7979]

And have a pretty Pro Mac 10 10 that I really want to get at.

[@kevinhall3443]

Yeah..the condenser stores the spark.

[@jeffcampbell6314]

This will fix it. The ROP Shop Universal Electronic TRANSISTORIZED Ignition Ignitor MODULES

[@User0220H]

Hi! Thank you for the video! I have a couple of questions. I have a Castor C-70 from the 70s (an italian saw) that had ignition problems, now it runs great (except for the kill switch that doesn't work so I have to disconnect the spark plug, getting constantly shocked😂😂). While disconnecting the spark plug I noticed that it was still running because it was arching to the spark plug. The arc was like 6/7mm long at idle. Is the voltage of the coil always the same or at idle is lower than at high rpms? Im worried it is going to affect the sparkplug or fry up the condenser. Is the long arc due to points too close? Thank you!

[@jeepster1515]

I have my grandfather's xl-12 with a bad coil. It is a phelon coil, point, condenser all-in-one assembly that apparently isn't available anymore :( Any sources anywhere?

[@lyndonwortley6329]

Tinman, I have had Glyptal engine enamel recommended as a way to seal cracks in the case of older coils. I have yet to try it out.... I happen to have a Mac 2-10 sitting waiting for me to replace the kill switch wire. Did the plug wire ages ago after I discovered there was a break in the insulation Guess how I found out about the break?

[@closertothetruth9209]

Specializing makes life easier but working on everything is interesting but can be a pain too

[@pm270100]

pain

[@brendosghanasenditsaws]

S10 tinman🤙

[@redtiller1975]

Thanks for your channel. What ever happened to the Poulan 5200 you were working on?

[@tinmanssaws]

Its on a shelf, I dive back into it one of these days

[@redtiller1975]

@@tinmanssaws Cool. I love my 4200 and 5200

[@colvinwellborn]

I'm still confused about what the points do. The coil converts the magnetic charge from the flywheel into an electric charge that runs to the spark plug, so where do the points come into play?

[@shapeshifter7753]

Try looking it up on the you tube. There are animated tutorials that helped me understand

[@colvinwellborn]

To answer my own question: The electric charge produced by the magnets on the flywheel and the coil is AC, and the points are used to convert the charge to DC.

[@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648]

I KNOW YOU WILL GET IT FIXED, HOPPER HAS A VIDEO ON ELECTRONIC IGNITION ON A MAC

[@stevetheriault4164]

Always something eh buddy good job TINMAN take her easy buddy

[@kevinduff3797]

Tinman!😁👍

[@ScrewdriverTUNING]

Tinman.!!!!! Question ?????? That points cover wouldn’t effect the spark location ehh????? It’s not grounding to the clutch housing I mean ???

[@tinmanssaws]

Na its plastic. Its the only plastic on this saw lol!!

[@ScrewdriverTUNING]

@@tinmanssaws the clutch cover is plastic ??

[@tinmanssaws]

@@ScrewdriverTUNING clutch is on the other side.

[@ScrewdriverTUNING]

Points under the flywheel.? Spinning magnet picks up electricity first. Plastic cover may be need for full spark.

[@MUFFLERDELETE101]

Put a chip in it....off a Kawasaki engine one wire it replaces the condenser you will never have points issues again...

[@jaydwelley8043]

Champion plugs are junk. Go to NGK and it will run better.

[@oldtrip1765]

Link for ignition?

[@jeffreyrubish347]

Electronic ignition will be more reliable in the long run.

[@jasonlewis4837]

Put a chip in it forget the points lol

[@pm270100]

i wish i could be that happy with a buck up ////i now have content /// you need to get the firing order right 15426378