Tiny, Cheap, Mighty Audiophile Speaker Puts Dali on Notice - Neumi Silk 4 Review

[@cheapaudioman]

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[@NoUselessTech]

One thing I love about this channel is the consistency of delivery. I feel like I’ve gotten to know Randy in a small way and when he describes speakers it goes a long way in helping me whittle down potential options. This works even when we have differing opinions on what sounds good (flat vs warm).

[@jeffneedstogivejakeaturnon1083]

I'm just here for the patented Randy Woofer Tap.

[@daveandreahoward8203]

Amen. Tap. Tap. Tap. It's better than sex.

[@josecintron85]

I have a pair of BS5s and they are phenomenal.

[@elijahgutierrez175]

Dam man, it’s really crazy seeing the progress in this channel, good stuff, big inspiration to start posting some of my own work(drawings not videos). Thank you for being the cheap audio man.

[@NeilBlanchard]

These seem to be an excellent value! The midwoofer driver has a cast aluminum frame and the tweeter has a neodymium magnet. They use 2nd order crossover filters, and is crossed over at an interestingly low 1.65kHz. As mentioned, if you want a bass and/or treble bump, then tone controls will be very good for that.

[@roythunderplump]

Wish could get the USA prices when shopping on Amazon UK. Great full tour of these speakers.

[@nitronamous]

I literally was looking at these on Amazon thinking…I wonder if Randy has seen these yet? The BS5s are a really good speaker for $109! I have a pair and I even bought a set for my parents for there home theater system. Thanks for the review man…you always come thru!

[@CinemaDemocratica]

I'm still confused about something: The Neumi BS5 was one of the most highly recommended speakers on this channel, and then it almost completely disappeared from follow-up mentions and follow-up comparisons. It's not heresy to say that Randy thought the BS5 "beat" his beloved Sony SSCS5's. And now it's so anonymous that Randy briefly couldn't remember the model number for this video. So what happened? Did it just get forgotten, in a neutral sort of way, or was there something about them that didn't age well? Not an academic question, as I could see myself buying a pair of those.

[@johnzamp9520]

I'm starting to think... that's not coffee in his mug......' hic '

[@m4nc1n1]

I got the BS5's on my desk. Love them. It was $89 a set back then when they came out. $109 now but still worth it.

[@shipsahoy1793]

I’m sticking with the Elacs! They don’t need a sub, have the power to drive them, and the EQ to coax the sound I like. BS41- Best cheap speaker period👨🏻

[@tomr5121]

I've been enjoying your channel, happy for you that it's now your full time gig. 👍

[@Simon_Hawkshaw]

Not sure if you review older video comments, but here goes.... do you have an opinion/perspective as to how these stack up to the Micca RB42? Thanks in advance.😂

[@Simon_Hawkshaw]

Thanks for this review and intro to this speaker. I don't think there is a place for this amongst my B1+ group, but I am sure this will be helpful to others looking for nearfield listening zones.

[@m4nc1n1]

Yeah, I go for flat, then add my own flavor (I don't leave them flat). The BS5's with a sub are fantastic!

[@unclelou3523]

How do these compare to the Polk TSI100s that reviewed so well against other sub-$300 bookshelf speakers (even the beloved Sony SS-CS5)? It would be helpful to keep some sort of speaker hierarchy, heat map or scatterplot for similar sized and price points.

[@kenblakeley9940]

I just got a pair of Cambridge Audio 50s.,and they are remarkably similar, maybe you could review them, they are worthy of consideration.

[@louise_8546]

I have the Dali Opticon 2 MkII - but can I find any decent reviews of them? It's all the first version out there, hopefully that will change over time. A few mentions on forums and a few sound test videos but nothing in-depth. (Peter Tyson in the UK on ebay has them open box during their promo periods, sometimes - and others)

[@stephenmorris8370]

I bought a pair of Opticon 2 's about 2 yrs. ago . I play them with a Rega Elex R . After hearing different speakers I was sold on the Dalis . I'd like to see Dali and Rega reviewed more .

[@louise_8546]

@@stephenmorris8370 Are they MkIIs? It's the lack of feedback about the 2nd edition I'm curious about.

[@stephenmorris8370]

@@louise_8546 No sorry they are an earlier version . Dali and Rega products don't seem to get reviewed alot like some other brands that you see all the time . What's important is how you like them .Sometimes maybe it's better not to read about them as a negative review might bother you . I'm sure they'd test well Just sayin .....

[@solomonstewart1025]

Interesting, a flat bookshelf which is very affordable.

[@jerryjones5547]

I would like to know more about how you would eq these speakers. I like the idea of starting neutral. Are you indicating that I need an eq box with multiple knobs, more than just a bass and treble eq? I think some of the amps you've reviewed have had settings like jazz and rock. Would that be enough. I'm trying to keep this eq set up cheaper than $200-$250?

[@kevinbehnke7149]

I tried these speakers and did not care for them. I loved the BS-5. The silk 4 seemed shouty/almost harsh compared to the BS-5. I had hopes they would be great since they were more money but not always true. I have the Micca RB42 and prefer those in this category.I was running these on an Emotiva TA-100 and theEmotiva Flex 8 sub. Everyone's ears are different...

[@CrashTestingAudio]

I think the fact that these would need a subwoofer to complete the sound would be a big deciding factor between this pair and the mentioned Dali Spektor 1s. I’ve really enjoyed that pair especially because the woofer as mentioned is so good, that you don’t need a subwoofer at all. When you’re at a desk or in a den and listening to things like jazz or acoustic instrumental music, I think the differences in roll-off and detail really separate these from the Dali. That said, looks like this pair could definitely find a home somewhere else in my house. Seems like they would be a great upgrade from a pair of Moukeys I have.

[@tertlordert]

I have some Dali Spektor 2’s $297 (Cdn). These little speakers would be $250 Cdn/$189 USD

[@JohnScheppler]

Great review and nice looking little speaker for desktop system.

[@DaveGavisk]

I have a pair of Micca RB42s in a small-room secondary system that are just okay. Would love to see a more in-depth comparison to these. Thanks for what you do.

[@02honeydew]

Can you compare these to the new RSL CG3M I think they're called?

[@leonardblush2557]

Seems like an ideal partner for something like the Emotive Flex 8 sub.

[@bibeauhalog]

Good day Sir Next potential topic.....Please advise which TV sound-bar I could use that could be a good choice - under $1,000 and under even $500. Using a smart TV / Pandora .Also, the selection could be used with or without a subwoofer...Thank you

[@nc3419]

Doesn't seem to be a bad little speaker but wish Neumi, as well as other manufacturers would space the binding posts a bit more apart. My Dali Opticons are small but the posts are spaced well apart. I have heard the Dali Spektor 1s and liked them at their price point. A warmish speaker if I remember that needed some additional power due to its lower sensitivity, which btw enhanced its bass response. Moving up to the Dali Oberon 1 added a large but similar sound but speech was more laid back, muffled during soundtrack with shows and movies. Still not bad but not as dynamic in response either as I would have liked. Moving up to Dali Opticon 1 MK1, it surprisingly does very well for both movies and music but has a flatter frequency response vs a more V curve. My Triangle Zetas have a more V curve and can be more fun/exciting to listen to at times, but I actually like both. The Opticon 1 works well midfield in up to a medium sized room for me but really excels nearfield and overall I feel is better than Menuet SE! I know, I tried it. Opticon didn't obscure detail for a smoother, denser sound. As to the Neumi, as good as it may be, it would not be a match for the more expensive two speakers I mentioned, or the Cambridge Minx XL which I also have. The Minx XL is a bit more resolving than the Zetas but the Zetas have more detail and aire, separation although a bit more sibilant/glare also. The Opticons are better than the Minx XL in every respect and tradeoffs are there with te Zetas but is considered the most audiophile. All three are easy to drive and actually 88 dB or better in room. The Minx XL has a slight V curve, sort of middle of the road between the zetas and Opticons. I believe the Minx XL would beat out the Neumi, but it was $300 retail. The Zetas retailed for about $500 and the Opticon 1 MK1 at $800 when they came to market. At the prices I paid, all three sound great and were inexpensive. The Opticons were half price. What would make the Opticons better were if dali gave them a real wood veneer or at least the nicer vinyl wrap of the Oberon series. At the current retail prices, its a hard purchase to consider the Opticon 1 or 2 MK 2 but they do compete with the over a grand price point sound-wise. I have tried alot of small speakers, even larger and like the three I have. But for the price, and if discounted on specials and holidays, it would be the speaker to buy. Unless you are willing to go up more for better SQ.

[@c.s.herman860]

Please review and compare to Polk ES10 ❤️

[@rodirish7787]

my favourite book shelf speakers are from the 90s the JBL L1 the first time i listened to them i fell in love I keep finding another space for them at first they were my mains then surrounds then in my bedroom then in the garage back to my bedroom i just can't seem to put them away and i have many more speakers than i can use at once

[@ProducerMC]

What about these vs sscs5

[@tedjones112]

these Silk Or Elac BS41 for nearfield listening with small sub.?

[@JukeboxAlley]

Nice looking and love a silk dome, you wanna know a very good "affordable" bookshelf, and by good, they sound really good for the money, find an old set of dcm cx-07 models, you may think it's crazy, but great bass and quality, as they do use great woofers in nearly all their speakers, and the tweeter doesn't look so special, but it does a great job, and I will say, it'll run with the pack, and can be had for 50-100 bucks usually. Don't sleep on those for the money.

[@D1N02]

I recently got a set of Quadral Maxi 440. They sound great. Tough aluminum housing. Nice Bass and good mid range. Just 50 euro used. I have Jamo s622. Those suck.

[@Nellis202]

What is a “doped” woofer ?

[@craigosterberg5045]

Are they better than Emotive B1?

[@70scottyp]

Gday all and Randy😁, I was wondering how these may compare to something very similar in size and basic design and still not stupidly expensive (but considered far more audiophiley😂) like the Totem Mites? I reckon the Totems would still be reasonably cheap audio gear. Cheers for your cool channel mate! Im new here and loving your style and insight (two compliments I find rarely (not never... Andrew and Steve do a bloody good job too imho) go to an American🤣)

[@70scottyp]

Id also be most interested if youd curb your habit of using tone controls and simply go direct through that newer Yammy of yours👍🏻😁

[@Puckanm]

Im new to the speaker world would you recommend these over the Sony Sony SSCS5 3-Way 3-Driver Bookshelf Speaker System (Pair) - Black?

[@RyanWileyWilliams]

Bud first time viewer, not a troll but some real constructive criticism. I like the swag, clean beard messy yet styled hair , your style and very clean yet hipster/ youthful and may I say agin hip look is on point - kudos to the wardrobe coordinator. Here’s the critique as a 1st time viewer , after watching until you got to the review of the mids I took a chance and scrolled forward looking for the actual sound of the speaker… meaning PLEASE PLAY THE DARN SPEAKER SO WE CAN HEAR IT. I really wanted to hear the speaker after all the talking. So much so that I’m writing a review and I never write reviews . Call me the Gordon Ramsey of KZbin channels. You have everything going for you. And if you’re not playing audio because you are such an audio head that you know the video will never put out the actual sound you’re hearing live in the room DONT WORRY ABOUT THAT. We are simple humans that need an experience to go along with all the spoken data. Even if we won’t be hearing the actual perfect sound of a live in the room experience please play the darn speaker so we can have closure on all your words and leave the video feeling fulfilled . This is great advice that I wish someone would give me if I had a KZbin channel. You said you make living off it. Regardless of any conservative views in regard to audio purity or whatever reason you have for not actually letting us HEAR the speaker playing music, please put that aside if you really want your viewers to come watch the entire video , leave the video feeling the full circle experience , and therefore coming back. At the very least please do a 30 day trial of incorporating This factor into any new reviews and watch the difference. Then go back and edit the old videos by adding an audio portion to the video . This may fall on deaf ears but I assure you that if you would be still and think upon this wisdom- you will agree. If not, at the very least do a trial test and then you can compare the success of older videos with the newer ones. This is like telling us all about the new car that just came out but never showing us you driving the car and experiencing it . ITS FLAT no pun intended . Selah

[@vicariousjohnson9823]

Playing the speakers won’t matter because you’re hearing them through YOUR speakers. It’s far better to have a subject matter expert like Randy listen to them and describe and grade the sound. It would seem this is obvious, but apparently not.

[@electrosolve991]

Mind taking a look at the Mission LX-2/3 MkII? Thanks!

[@martinsoo6332]

Hi Sir, can you please review the Elipson Prestige Facet 6B French Speakers. They are really2 great. Made in France

[@danielh12345]

Would a handful of polyfill make them sound bigger and have more bass? Idk if it would just mess it up tbh... but a lot of speaker kits have some polyfill to be put in and once you do it sounds soo much bigger. I'm just not entirely sure how much of that is already part of the design with regards to frequency response and port measurements etc.

[@NeilBlanchard]

Quite possibly, yes. And probably a rib or ribs would reduce any cabinet resonances. Their cutaway image makes it look like there are metal core coils - replacing them with larger gauge air core would improve the bass quality, and possibly increase it a little bit in level, too.

[@douwdejager5336]

Too much polyfil and the port output Dips.. if there's no polyfil in the speaker just like you said a handful bundle it up and put behind woofer so it can dampen the rear wave of the woofer so it doesn't reflect back into the woofers cone.. This will clean up the sound nicely to..

[@McGeeeeesees]

Is there any way I can add your affiliate code when using Amazon AU? Also, do you ever use AliExpresss?

[@DannyOhana]

I've been looking at this speaker, but it's a 4 inch, and at the price point there are 5 inch options like the Fluance Signature that might be more bang for the buck..Am I wrong?

[@vividvulpe9842]

Bigger is almost always…. Better. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@adamjj85]

Love to see this form factor. Another comparison would be the PSB Alpha P3's.

[@mikej1428]

What are your thoughts on Edifier 1850DB?

[@ginom407]

Great Review Randy!!! 👍

[@Lou.B]

I like your work; "Brushed steel" on the wrap. So tell us; what brand of denim shirt is that???

[@stonefree1911]

You can get the ELAC 4.1 for under a hundo...I got mine for $88 on Amazon on sale. Not sure they can be beat for the price...

[@patrickmcnally1986]

Thanks!

[@peterwinstonaldredge6927]

Why don't you let us hear the output of the speakers you review? For me that would be extremely helpful as I am not as educated as you regarding crossovers, frequency response, etc. I just know what sounds good to my ear.

[@douwdejager5336]

Great website to check measurements is to visit audio science review.. great detailed write-ups as well..

[@TriAmpHiFi]

Are they shipped via High Altitude Balloon? 🔈🔉🔊

[@allesdurchprobiert]

Would love to get a review of the Denon SC-M39/40/41 (they're basically the same, just newer iterations). They are about 120€ per pair and are often recommended.

[@michaellutz5883]

Good point, while I don't believe the Denon speakers are available in north America. Most of the Denon speakers get assembled in Europe, shipping over the pond at these pricepoints is what Denon certainly avoids. I also own a pair of SC-M39 and fully agree, they are unicorns.

[@allesdurchprobiert]

@@michaellutz5883 One day, I'll get them too. Even if just for fun, because I don't have a real usecase for them. Would you say they have any weakness? Would you say they are ok for EDM or Hiphop without a subwoofer? Does Denon not sell in the USA in general? That would be so sad. I recently learned that Panasonic TVs aren't sold in the USA. Equally sad.

[@michaellutz5883]

@@allesdurchprobiert Wow ..many question at once. These are fun speakers, there's not so much intensity towards details. But no question, once connected you won't stop listening. Their major habitat is Rock/Grunge/Metal and HipHop too. I also own a pair of Denon SC F-107, which appear to me as if these reproduce more properly - but somehow don't come with this little extra punch the SC M-39 use to offer. U-shaped, not always a 100% on the dot, but there's no fatique in listening for me. Will keep 'em for a while.

[@allesdurchprobiert]

@@michaellutz5883 Thanks! Sounds nice to me. I'll just get em used for 60€ or so and see for myself. Can't go wrong I'm sure!

[@blue_blue-1]

According to the frequency response Dali should have much more bass!

[@blue_blue-1]

@cheap_audioman6, that is to say: ?

[@pixelreflectorpro]

@@blue_blue-1 it's a scam

[@Hirnlego999]

The size reminds me about ALR Jordan Entry S

[@tubefreeeasy]

To power your Fosi, do you use a higher grade power cable from usb-a to usb-mini b? I found one with silver plating and hope it pushes up the performance. Keep on rockin’ it!

[@tubefreeeasy]

Whoops, I was talking about the streamer instead of the Fosi that uses an AC adaptor.

[@DescartesRenegade]

Don't settle for anything less than pure diamond cables.

[@loudspeaker-solutions]

i think it's important to mention that quality hifi shouldn't be expensive when it's a question of objective performance. Price become higher when there are subjective aspects getting involved into the product as the brand, the design, the prestige, the direct or indirect distribution etc... It's nice by the way to confirm some brands are working on offering both performance and low price.

[@carlsitler9071]

I liked reviews of cheap dacs, preamps, amps and headphones but not cheap speakers. I have bookshelf speakers and subs but they don't compare to speakers with BIG woofers. Even my 4 foot towers with dual 6 1/2" woofers don't make effortless natural bass like 15" woofer speakers. Based on my experience, I can't imagine the S400 sounds as good as the L100.

[@craigosterberg5045]

Are they better than Emteeva

[@brucehazen8982]

Reminds me of the Silverline Minuet from 10(?) years ago -- for a fraction of the price

[@mikeholley4488]

Hell yeah randy!

[@Dustx85]

Hey Randy! They looks like the Loonpo LP42 did you ever reviewed them?

[@spamcan9208]

I wonder if this is the first in a new line. Unless I missed it, it's the only "silk" model I saw from Neumi.

[@niccster1061]

First, love your channel... ok ill watch the rest now

[@Vamon_Kinctuarinwhe]

That chip in the left lens of your glasses would aggravate me to no end on my glasses.

[@saltywalt57]

You're suggesting that this speaker is neutral, so are you saying that it's a redo of the NHT superzero or the Yamaha NS10?

[@jameshelms9008]

I would like some equitment reviews from Audioegnine

[@mwahlert]

I wonder how it compares to the RSL CG3M.

[@shobhitmathur5686]

Tiny well I need help something Tiny too. I have a height limitation of 74cms for speakers. Could you please suggest speakers that I can fit in there. It was a new house interior goofup that cannot be undone. I want to get some floor stander but just cannot find such short floor standers. Book shelf + custom short stands, I am just not able to picturize. My current speakers are Castle Pembroke which by the stroke of luck, JUST fit. So I have a system running, however, I wish to upgrade. HELP!!

[@kellyweaver1389]

@cheapaudioman What happened to cheap watch man I miss those videos

[@RyanWileyWilliams]

Audi speaker named BS? Pleas fire that person whoever came up with this speaker name

[@aquinamedia4508]

To get the artist sound you'd need the amp + speakers / headphones used, pretty sure why any "audiophile" argument will ALWAYS fail?

[@rrchannel2464]

Pls review new Mission LX-2 MKII

[@joseyneighbors5230]

I found my dad’s old Panasonic speakers from a Microsystem and I need a better receiver

[@ssleddens]

Rough night cheap?

[@umitahmet4112]

Hi Randy Sorry if i spell your name wrong Can you please consider giving your thoughts on Mission QX and Definitive technology Demand series i think you will like them 👍

[@Pumpndump897]

Best value equals maganapan

[@Philip-xk5ui]

Why do you always have to touch the drivers with your greasy fingers?

[@Rorgash]

For normal music or TV, get floor speakers, for a PC get Headphones, not sure what use bookshelf speakers are good for :/

[@toby9999]

We use bookshelf speakers on a PC when we don't want to use headphones. Also as home theatre rear speakers.

[@solomonstewart1025]

Yeah there are many who just do not like headphones.

[@Rorgash]

@@toby9999 ok yea forgot about rear speakers.. I even have that 😅

[@Rorgash]

@@solomonstewart1025 ok sure, to me it'd just that for speakers as good as headphones you often need to 5x to 10x the price for same quality

[@bingdong8571]

Don't use codes bs on your speakers

[@9mmmike642]

What?

[@salmonline]

which speakers are you using with the Tyr mono-blocks?

[@MojoMagic977]

Is he suggesting he had two Tyr’s and hooked them up to these little things?

[@onefatstratcat]

But can they beat my 1985 Boston Acoustics A40V's?

[@bigkidstoysav1531]

This was such a great video! It would be amazing if you watched our NEWEST video and let us know what you think!