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[@MichaelBushBeekeeper]

I've lived in a tipi in the winter in the mountains at 10,000 ft. Some of my ancestors lived in tipis in the winter for centuries... Of course it takes setting the tipi up correctly. It needs a liner and it needs the smoke flaps correctly positioned. You also want to go to sleep with a pile of wood within reach so you can stoke the fire before you get out of your bed in the morning. Preferably also put the coffee on before you get out of bed. :) But I've lived in a tipi when it was -10 F and been quite comfortable. I've also been in a tipi when it was -40 F and survived, though not as comfortably... Generations of Indian women worked out the details centuries ago. If you follow their system you can be quite comfortable in the winter in a tipi. If you intend to keep a tipi as a permanent dwelling (which they were not designed to be) then a rocket mass heater would be a fine addition. However tipis are not very permanent. The cover will only last a few years and you'll need to replace it. The liner will last a bit longer because it's not getting blown around and pulled tightly to the stakes, but it's also touching the ground so it won't last forever either.

[@michaeltakesthegun9175]

umm ..raises hand quietly,,, tipis work very well in winter - my ancestor's ( Lakota Sioux) proved that " all day ,all night" for 100's of years ,;-)

[@dirtpatcheaven]

In what part of the country? I thought that a lot of Native Americans were nomadic and moved to warmer climates for winter living and moved to the harsher cold climates only in summer? I may be mistaken, I have not done a thorough research on the subject and am taking Paul's word for having done his research.

[@gavinthor4479]

Before one makes a video of this type, and the bold statements that he did, one should really do their homework! Understand the use of a dew cloth, liner and smoke flaps. Without them the tipi is virtually like any ordinary tent. The cover is NOT tied this close to the ground - this would cause it to rot. I've slept in my tipi at temperatures down to -30F, and been quite comfortable with a conventional fire (and buffalo hides). A small hardwood fire provides not only heat but also light. The dwelling in this video would be not only dreary but also lacking the natural appeal of the Native American home and just plain wrong. Read the Laubin Tipi book!!!!

[@Ariel975]

Great ! I

[@rchristie5401]

id say 1000's of years. And they didnt have a Horse big enough to hall around a Stove that size.

[@c.a.r7658]

Thank you michael takesthegun! I laughed when he said tipis are only for summer. lol.

[@BethGrantDeRoos]

Am going to disagree with the notion tepees were summer dwellings. The plains nations lived in tepees 100% of the time and anyone who has lived in South Dakota as my husband did near the Rosebud nation knows that snow is the norm in winter. And unlike the one in this video authentic native teepee's have interior half walls of animals skins that act as a barrier or second wall that helps hold in heat in winter. Spend many a time in them in South Dakota.

[@marcellespeake4272]

You can insulate with straw or grass between the liner and exterior. Modern canvas is designed for air to pass through for summer comfort. It has to be waterproofed and a mold, mildew and fire retardant applied to use it in cold weather. Edges at floor are used for storage. Agree that height of liner and the correct use of flaps are necessary to draw air correctly and not have a smokey but warm interior. Camped in lodge at Camas Meadows couple of weeks beginning of May (WA) where we had ice on the mud puddles in the mornings. We had no problems keeping warm. He is right about having a small ditch around the outside to draw the water away during rain or snow melt. The "roof" as he called it was only over the back half of the tent, so the smoke still rose and exited well, yet helped hold the heat in. We used our large grill plate covered with foil propped between door and fire to reflect heat to the rear without blocking smoke from rising. In cold weather you also overlap the door flap to keep heat from escaping when coming or going. I have seen people did a trench from rear of tent to the fire, line it with tin cans and cover it with dirt to provide a lot of air to the fire so it will burn (because they do not know how to make an efficient fire), always makes me laugh. Or they will build the fire directly on the ground, risking a deep burn of the root system that could destroy a whole forest because it is almost impossible to put out! This really ticks me off. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. There are a couple of good books on the subject for anyone who really wants to know and survive the experience with sanity intact. I like the Laubin book, "The Indian Tipi," but there are others. Caveat emptor! Best to all, Marce Speake.

[@igotatan1]

The door should always face the East. I forgot exactly why, but it has to do with wind direction, and acknowledgement of morning. Treating your canvas would prolong the covering also. Linseed oil, and wax are common treatments. The lack of weight, and convenience of using a minimalist shelter, enabled the Great Plains Tribes to follow the Buffalo heard for food. Simply using the poles from the Tipi tied to their horse in an A frame fashion, in order to carry more necessities for a migratory lifestyle. My ancestors (Mohawk) lived in Longhouses in NY, and Southern Canada, where the tribe was mostly stationary, only travelling to where the food sources were abundant, depending on the season.

[@j0eX]

Wrong. I lived in a tipi in Snowmass years ago, well insulated with an inner liner, heated with a mini pot belly stove and wool blankets. So all the Lakota and Absaroke people went to Florida in winter, or moved into split-level homes? I've spent a lot of time in friend's tipis, summer and winter. I know folks raised in them.

[@jeremywallace9494]

I lived in snowmass over the Winter, and would've killed for a nice tipi spot!

[@mcdee56]

I have NEVER heard that Native Americans didn't Winter in their Tipis! We lived in ours at 6500 feet above sea level in Colorado. We used a wood stove and filled the liner with lofted straw for insulation. I can't believe they don't have a liner here!

[@garybryant7274]

Yep...your tipi is about 1/3 complete. Nothing on the ground. No liner!! no oran. The height of the liner dictates the smoke height. The liner creates the draft. in warm weather you raise the outside about 6" to cool the dwelling. Lowering the outside to the ground stops the problem with "hot front, cold back".

[@IowaTech80]

the tipi is missing an interior liner that isolates an updraft layer in the outer wall, is usually 6-9 feet high so that draft comes in just over your head

[@bennyvoncannon197]

No liner not sure he knows a lot about tipis

[@badrockbilly]

The Ozan and Liner are really necessary.

[@tallunique]

I know that Paul is trying to help people live their dreams and restore the planet, but I can't quite wrap my head around not being able to calculate the area of a circle with 18' diameter or not know much at all about the Plains Peoples. I'm sure that my grammar will be picked to death, because of this statement.

[@RussellBallestrini]

From my perspective, Paul wasn't interested in the question of square footage and looked like he was day dreaming about something else.

[@plutoplatters]

( who cares !!! 18' foot in diameter is HUGE for something small )

[@MzClementine]

@Peter Kunzler your grandma is fine darling. And I completely agree with you.

[@davidcanatella4279]

Yeah in winter the natives would check into the Bates motel until spring gathering their sustenance from the continental breakfast.

[@Horse237]

One of the best guests on your show. We might need to learn how to build one of his heaters. Never know what the future brings.

[@bushcraftandastronomer.3775]

I've got the onetigris smokey hut black orca teepee and it's a 4 season teepee! It's ultralight and I can get a stove for winter. It's a great size and very roomy! Teepees are for all seasons especially ones that is made for winter camping! How did the American Indians use their teepee in winter when they are used only in summer? Teepees are the best tents these days and I'm going to love my new teepee!

[@kirstenwhitworth8079]

If the diameter was 18 ft, then the radius is 9 ft. A=πr2≈254.47 sq ft.

[@noodlesmcgee3392]

I have a 22 ft diameter Tipi on the plains of Northern Il. Hunters used it last night Jan 2018....No liner 1 degree F. Big logs on the fire kept them cozy all night. Knowing your smoke flaps and wind direction/speeds etc makes no liner Tipi stays doable in the winter. Longterm? I wouldn't live fulltime without a liner as your wood cost would be high.

[@DaMoysis]

"Tipi's are not meant to be lived in during the winter..." Where do people come up with this sort of idiocy? My ancestors would find that hilarious considering they lived in tipi's year round.

[@deecooper1567]

Hmm, I was trying to think WAAY back to my school years & history. For native people they didn’t have an alternative as far as I remember. 👵🏻👩‍🌾❣️

[@MzClementine]

@DaMoysis look at who the information is coming from. I don't like that man. He gives me the heebie-jeebies. I'm shocked. Absolutely shocked. Truly tp's made out of beautiful skins. As well as covering the bottom. Beautiful woven covers to line the floor. This man thinks he's a know-it-all. I don't want to say what I want to say about him and it's not good at all. Let's just say he really gives me the heebie-jeebies.

[@Tyr-not-mars]

Laplanders live in Loue all year round ..he clearly is Loue living not tipi'.

[@kerricorser4562]

Where the heck was the liner? The liner helps create the proper air flow.

[@meganfox8729]

I so want this.....

[@Mariamsarashani]

From what I sensed from your page I found out that you are been blessed and gifted the Almighty and your spiritual guidance

[@slickmongercash7788]

I totally get the winter-camping excitement from a tipi like that. Being warm, yet so so close to the raw nature of the winter storm outside and its sound, would be couch-glue-level comfortable. That's a very interesting build that they have there. It's really too bad that the cavas has to be replaced so often. it's too bad there is not a better material or silver-impregnated one to starve off the bacterial and fungal growth. Likely would be expensive, though. There's always the synthetics, but the off-gassing is just too much, especially where heat is applied - else, this would be a great idea for my family's camp.

[@rodney73991]

i don't see teepee liner. I'm surprised that make even warmer. i guess that with metal chummy would not need rush cold air move up. but you must teepee sides close to ground prevent any air form flow in through ground

[@rodney73991]

never mind she answered my question. had one take it down

[@jimbronaugh]

Most native Americans didn't live in tipis. My ancestors lived in wigwams. Most eastern tribes and most western tribes and most northern tribes and most southern tribes lived in various forms of housing made from convenient materials. Planes Indians used tipis because of the lack of convenient materials. They had to carry more of their materials because there was less available along the trail. Some norther tribes used tipi, such as the Paiute, but they were short fat tipis convenient to carry through forest. Planes Indians did live in tipis in the winter because, wait for it, because there were few convenient materials to use. I also notice that this tipi is only half built. There isn't a liner or any of the base insulation of a real tipi. Animal skin covers were better than Styrofoam or the pink fiberglass.

[@igotatan1]

The lack of weight, and convenience of using a minimalist shelter, enabled the Great Plains Tribes to follow the Buffalo heard for food. Simply using the poles from the Tipi tied to their horse in an A frame fashion, in order to carry more necessities for a migratory lifestyle. My ancestors (Mohawk) lived in Longhouses in NY, and Southern Canada, where the tribe was mostly stationary, only travelling to where the food sources were abundant, depending on the season.

[@martinkerker1190]

Kyle, I might be wrong, I was once before. I believe they are North American Bison. also from the Longhouse people. Oneida.

[@FullSpectrumSurvival]

Enjoyed this! thx

[@HealthyFamilyVarietyChannel]

Paul should pay you to film his KZbin videos!! He needs this and many other Wheaton Labs videos up on HIS youtube channel!!! Both of these were really nice. I finally got to see the Wofati on video; very well done!

[@dirtpatcheaven]

It was pretty cool wasn't it?

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

Thermal mass is an awesome way to heat.

[@Ariel975]

God Bless You ! I believe the tipi is the highest quality of life ^^ I love natural in everything in my life so the tipi is the closest way for me to get home to nature .. thats why for me the tipi is a very sacred home ^ -rocket stoves are great !! My relatives had 1 in a desert and I have 1 now and maby 1 more soon they are jusy crazy efficent and easy they also burn quite mois wood coz of the great flow. I have chosen spiritually and in every way possible to follow a Great Spirit and 1 of the ways to do that is to understand the beauty and wisdom of the Gift from Nature Tipi ^^ PS : That Rocket - Stove is 100% like the 1 I came up with coz it's best

[@dirtpatcheaven]

Thank you for watching!!

[@HeidisHereAndThere]

At 8:21 the babbling stops, and they actually go INSIDE the tipi!

[@HeidisHereAndThere]

ONCE INSIDE...you will soon realize they know NOTHING about the tipi set up!! Oh brother😑

[@rkow8508]

Spent a few winter's in the north east in mine when set up properly comfortable living.When your in one of these in the remote woods you wonder why anyone. Could be in a house.

[@artemkudelia]

wow! great trip space ☺️

[@friarrodneyburnap4336]

Put the Tipi on a wooden deck...so the canvas doesn't touch the ground. . .also add a liner and add a ozan...

[@joemummerth8340]

the tipi is not done , that would`nt be comfortable in the spring or summer let alone winter , the liner and the ozan are both missing , and yes they did live in them in winter , of course they were hide tipis and a lot easier to heat !

[@dirtpatcheaven]

Okay. I was the interviewer, not the interviewed.

[@jeffreylane7]

super interesting

[@billyslaironair8860]

I would love to live in a tipi soooo bad compare to a house or mansion

[@bruceevans2719]

My wife said she'd take the mansion.

[@PokerHillFarm]

Very cool!

[@georgejohnson1537]

Agreed was very cool.....................C YA

[@garybryant7274]

You might know rocket mass heating but you don't have a clue about tipi living.

[@benholler1389]

He doesn't even know about rocket mass heaters. He makes rediculous false claims and has no clue how to safely design a heater

[@Frugal_granny]

His claims that it wasn’t a winter home is Bull! The Sioux and Cheyenne & many other plains Indians lived in them year round! His description of it was merely a summer construction! No mention on how a winter tipi was erected, or the inner wall that was added in winter. This is the problem with modern “camper” types incorrectly using lodges n thinking wrongly the original ppl didn’t know how to build a structure I’ve stayed in one with 3’ of snow outside, in South Dakota in -50 degree nights & only a fire 🔥 ! I’ve been in one was high prairie winds Walk the tipi several feet & other tents were blown down, but the tipi stoop all night! It is a brilliantly designed structure if not incorrectly erected or maintained. Only reason his “full of smoke forcing you to sit” is because they didn’t direct the SMOKE flaps correctly! Ugh

[@b57ecv]

It doesn't look very practical the way it's set up, it's at ground level there's no ground sheet the bugs and insects get in and there's no space for anything and it's not double lined, in Britain they sell teepees that have a lining-separate compartments inside plus they come with a sewen in groundsheet and the whole thing is placed onto decking above ground level and a woodburner inside, a much better set up !

[@jeois411]

This type of mass heating doesn't need to be tested because it's guaranteed to work. It used to be extremely common in Manchuria (and Siberia) to use masonry heaters. The rocket design of the stove and its efficiency, I'm not sure about. Nevertheless, it works on the same principle as technology that's been around for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kang_bed-stove These things have mostly been replaced by district heating plants where hot water or steam is piped into radiators in buildings. Unfortunately, the single-dwelling air furnaces we use are probably pretty inefficient by comparison, but natural gas is fairly cheap in the US, so hardly anyone cares.

[@Dave51262]

How is rain/snow kept out of the hole at the top with that chimney?

[@AJ-ev3eu]

Wrong... Lakota did not “migrate”... buffalo hide provides insulation

[@tinacrapson5640]

How were you able to visit the Wheaton's? Where are they located?

[@justinfournier1285]

Paul is surprisingly accommodating. Montana.

[@StacyFrancis94]

Is there a lock on a tipi?

[@PriscillaSwaney]

I have a Native American friend. He and his family live in a tepee which is constructed from animal leather. They have an open fire in the middle which heats the tepee. Yes, tepees are built by Native Americans to live in them year round. Seems like they want modern comforts, you have to choose what type of life style you want. Our off gird old trailer we first lived in, we had to put blankets on the walls to contain the warmth, just like our ancestors cover window openings with animal hides/shutters. Michael T, I agree with you.

[@dirtpatcheaven]

My understanding has been that it depends on climate and the reason they were mobile was so that you didn't live in the harshest climates during the winter but moved down to warmer valley. Paul is in Missoula Montana with snowloads that might be too heavy. I believe that his research is very thorough, he says that in their normal lives before white men came that Native Americans would not live in very cold climates in a tipi but instead were forced to stay in them once they were moved to reservations.

[@debbieclayburn6565]

Is your husband playing a game on his phone? LOL

[@coasterbrookie]

I cannot believe how misinformed this guy is.

[@dirtpatcheaven]

Not sure what you mean.

[@3flashcan]

I question this guys info . I know a guy here in NC. And he lived 24 / 7 , 365 days a year for 17 years and we have winter weather here for several weeks down in the low 20's and teens . .

[@ronsmith1364]

Paul , What about using bamboo as a fuel source for rocket mass heaters? A confined bed of bamboo would seem a good fit for permacultural endeavours. I wonder about a "portable" style rmh for a converted school bus rv are there small and light enough designs to work for that? Thanks for sharing and spending time making these videos. It is so great to 'see' all the projects I have read about from permies.com. Blessed Be

[@stereolababy]

unless you split the bamboo lengthwise it will be exploding with every chamber

[@ronsmith1364]

Yeah splitting absolutely needed. I wondered if bamboo had enough therms to warm up the mass. Regeneration of the thicket doesn't seem to be a problem. Can it burn long/hot enough to be viable as fuel?

[@stereolababy]

Ron Smith i would say no as a viable fuel

[@ronsmith1364]

ty

[@savannahkennedy5454]

Are you renting the tipi? I would love to live in onee

[@dirtpatcheaven]

It is an airbnb in Montana.

[@alexander5207]

Tipi are ok but yurts are way better.

[@matthewvaughan3245]

It's amazing how rude and inconsiderate cell phones have made people. Their shooting a video and the guy is going through his phone. Even if they weren't shooting a video when people get together to discuss a topic, their are some who still have to look at their phones. I would have stopped talking till the guy put his phone away

[@sully-alacumba]

False information! Tipi year round living

[@morestupidstuff3094]

are you white?

[@benholler1389]

1/10 the of the wood compared to what? What data do you have to support this claim? You continue to make these absurd claims yet you can offer nothing to back them up.

[@Kianquenseda]

bullshit of course they used them in the winter

[@dirtpatcheaven]

I don't know. I was not the one giving the talk, just recording it.

[@Theartisticgardener]

Very cool !