How Long Should You Meditate for Lucid Dreaming? (Q&A)

[@-Kal-]

I like to do the mindfulness of the breath meditation like you described, but sometimes I'll switch to open awareness halfway through. For anyone who is unfamiliar, it's just dropping the focus on the breath so attention goes wherever it goes, but tends to settle on 'being aware of being aware'. Hopefully that makes sense. Open awareness is also my favorite way to meditate in a lucid dream. I get a huge boot in lucidity and it feels magical in a way I can't really describe.

[@SkyfallBlindDreamer]

Being aware of being aware, that's how I was taught self awareness. I've sort of defined it as knowing that you know you are having an experience.

[@Tipharot]

Another one I like personally is to instead move my attention from my breath to the space behind my closed eyes. I find this works better if the lights are off/it's dark, since the light shining through your eyelids is a bit less distracting. I find this almost feels like a nice blend between typical mindfulness of the breath and open awareness, because you are still keeping your awareness on one thing (the black space you see with your eyes closed), but that thing is less single-pointed than the breath, and more is going on - since you may find your attention drifting through imagined imagery, or phosphenes or other visual phenomena.

[@-Kal-]

@@Tipharot Oh, nice! I haven't tried that one in a while. I'll try it again.

[@user-mq9lx9im3x]

im starting to write down my dreams on my nootebook right now as im watching this video

[@kawi9920]

hello

[@neferphito7450]

Good luck then

[@-dennis3755]

ive gone through great changes in my personality, you are the one youtuber I still watch from back before them, keep it up Matt

[@Ghostly-00]

The main reason why I use the phone for dream journaling is because I can’t be bothered to make my handwriting legible right after waking up lol. When I used to write them down by hand I could barely read what it says when I try to read it later on haha

[@kawi9920]

Thanks for the tips! I am still waiting for my first lucid dream to happen so this is gonna help a lot! Very satisfying Video in the background btw

[@_____J_____]

Keep it up, trust me it’s worth it

[@loogloogloogr]

2:45 Yes i am a teenager and i cant have very vivid/long dreams with only 6 hours. For me it needs to be 7+. To start out with lucid dreaming you NEED 8+ hours of sleep a night because it makes your dreams so much more vivid and long

[@_____J_____]

That also has been my experience. 10h of sleep is ideal for me but sadly it’s very hard to get consistently especially with school and all that

[@Crime_Mime]

@@_____J_____ Yeah I can sleep for 12 hours if I'm left alone. The last few hours feel like they're all REM, but I do get solid dreams from the second REM period of the night (about 3 hours in)

[@_____J_____]

@@Crime_Mime I try to not sleep more than 10h but yea REM phases probably get a lot shorter by that point

[@nidarosrush662]

A dream i had a while back: I was walking the streets of what seemed New York eventhough I live in chicago. I was wondering to myself how can i achieve lucid dreaming. Suddenly a powerful voice of a man with authority came from above and sort of behind me telling me that all i needed to so was to ascend. At the time i fully understood what the voice was telling me and i did what he told me. I found myself in some sort of wormhole being sucked in and all I can hear was loud static and what seems to be millions of conversations happening all at once. The wormhole ended in my bedroom and I got dropped on my bed. I woke up feeling my body had just slammed my bed.!!!!

[@SkyfallBlindDreamer]

That sounds like an awesome experience.

[@makkutiggu744]

This was a very good video. You answered all the question fully and understandable. You also picked a lot of relevant questions!

[@San37815]

Can meditation improve your dream recall as good as dream journaling?

[@_____J_____]

Meditation is mainly about improving general awareness inside and outside of dreams, it will also help you to recall your dreams but the journal is definitely superior when it comes to recall

[@SkyfallBlindDreamer]

I'd also recommend intention setting and delving for recall. Intention setting is basically deciding to do something in the future, something we humans do a lot actually. If you've ever decided to do something at a later date or time, you've set an intention. So decide that you will remember your dreams, that this is important to you, and that you will remember your dreams each time you wake up. Then each time you wake up, delve for dreams. Dream delving is a method of actively recalling dreams centered around immediate actions taken upon waking. When you wake up, you should do something like this. Stay in the position you woke up in. Don't let yourself get distracted by thoughts, feelings, or things around you. Try thinking about what you were last doing, experiencing, feeling, thinking, etc. If you get just random ideas, ask yourself why you were thinking about these things. If you get a scene or part of a dream, try working your way backwards to find out what happened before and do this until you've gotten as much information as possible. Finally, record what you've managed to recall. From personal experience, I've witnessed the results of getting distracted and not paying attention to dream memories on waking and losing recall.

[@Tipharot]

Yes and no. If you are keeping up a consistent and long nightly meditation practice you will after some time almost certainly start remembering lots of dreams each night very vividly. However these dreams will quickly fade if you're not making the effort to jot them down in some form (whether in a journal, audio notes, or immediately texting/telling a friend about them upon waking) so you might find you have a crazy 10+ or more vivid dreams each night but within an hour after waking you only remember 1 or 2. Vs with a dream journal alone I find for me at least, I tend to level out at around 4-6 dreams per night recalled, but because I've written those dreams down I can still recall all of them later in the day. In other words, I've found meditation alone to benefit the overall quantity of recalled dreams beyond what even a dream journal can do, but without the dream journal those memories don't stick. Meanwhile a dream journal alone doesn't produce quite as high peak numbers for me, but the recollection is more stable/longer-lasting. So for best results, use both! :)

[@SkyfallBlindDreamer]

@@Tipharot I'm curious, never asked you this, but in the context of this comment, I thought I would. Have you ever done dream delving? I guess you could call it a form of meditation, but I'm no meditation expert, but it's a mental exercise designed to help you remember dreams and meant to be done each time you wake up. I described it in this thread, and it's proven quite useful even for me, and I'm one of the lucky few who doesn't have to work hard for recall. The point is to basically weaponize the way memory works, and start with what you were just feeling, thinking, etc, and work your way backward, using association to recall dream memories.

[@SkyfallBlindDreamer]

To what AstralX was saying, the fundamentals are important. It's actually recommended not to just rely upon reality checks, though doing them correctly can help. Developing fundamentals, such as awareness, memory, criticality, that is important. Reality checks can help with criticality if done correctly, though they should never be done mindlessly as you addressed in your recent video about reality checks. Intention is also awesome, and dream recall, it is an underrated and absolutely critical fundamental. The mindfulness meditation, mindfulness is a highly recommended practice, and tends to help with the awareness and presence aspect. I know that a lot of people love and highly recommend meditation. I'm one of those who's never done it and approached things differently. Really depends on the person and their approach there.

[@iceskaterprotainasxp8276]

Good video mate.I like how you don't try to act like you have a 100% answer to everything and tell people to experiment instead as lucid dreaming is a very personal thing and varies alot between people.I see too many people in other places fed up cuz the "go to strategy" didn't work for them. Keep it up

[@chadjohnson1834]

This vid was super interesting I learned so much thank you man love the content!!

[@brokentoy8616]

I feel like at times meditation makes me more stressed than not, while I know the goal is to not judge getting distracted I often find i still stress over that still plus I find it a effort to just do 10 minutes...

[@idkwhatnameishouldputhere3004]

same was for me, i think you just need to get the hang of it

[@Modernstoic1]

Thank you for Giving me motivation on my no fap streak!😁🙏🏻💡

[@elijahrodgers6331]

it's crazy to me how i'm remembering my dreams but not realizing how stupid they are while i'm having them and realizing it's a dream.

[@SkyfallBlindDreamer]

Sounds like you have some fun lucids, though low memory access or criticality if you're not recognizing how crazy things are. I truly love it when crap like that happens. Nothing like breaking physics to get me laughing in the morning. Who new that third rail opperated electric trains and pool water went so well together. :)

[@ianblackmore-allen163]

All meditation is about mindfulness.

[@soniczforever5470]

Cool you finished a level just in time for the end of the last section

[@Tipharot]

My timing wasn't that great, the full recording of game-play was 30 minutes, but I just set the speed of the recording so that it'd exactly match the length of my voice-over, so you'd be able to watch the whole run instead of just half of it :)

[@DreaMist4256]

My dream last night involved friend blowing up some cars and a possibly high school classroom that was teaching a gun class and everyone in the class had a gun

[@dsssfsffdfsdfdsfdsfdsfsdf]

what game is this Tipharot? looks epic!

[@Bruno53000]

I've noticed Ur polish

[@yes-ec8dg]

He's from England, but lives in Poland

[@Bruno53000]

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[@yes-ec8dg]

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[@Bruno53000]

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[@yes-ec8dg]

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[@guyadam6131]

i don't quite lucid dream but i sometimes have dreams of having lucid dreams where i dream that im in control but not really in control can u please do vid on this thanks

[@bubblegum1543]

is this same recommendation for astral projection? I know you have triggered this from lucid dream but just in case someone would be able to do it from awake state or so who knows

[@russell3642]

So is your hypnosis track or your meditation track more useful for lucid dreaming if I use it before bed? Or are the they same

[@Tipharot]

I wish I could give a definitive answer, but that would really require having a bunch of people test both and compare results. Personally I'd give both a solid shot for a week or two and then see if one of them seems to produce better results for you (whether in frequency of lucid dreams, clarity of dreams, dream recall, etc).

[@the_oneironaut]

Just wanna say that I once had a lucid dream in Konoha. I met Hinata. HINATA!!

[@zoltan603]

hey, can you play music while you meditate?

[@ianblackmore-allen163]

Thoughts on the nofap thing, increased use of Pornography and increased masturbation commonly results in symptoms of lethargy, brain fog, lack or clarity and motivation. This is possibly why periods of abstinence result in better, well, everything. Check out 'Your Brain on Porn' by Gary Wislon for the science.

[@MohamedHassan-cm8ni]

Did you try taking iodine pills for lucid dreaming ?

[@Smartzenegger]

Why is it that I recall false memories in my dreams? (non lucid)

[@SkyfallBlindDreamer]

That's normal and can happen quite easily. I've done that so many times now it's not worth trying to count them lol. When I wake up, I can usually tell what is a false memory that I created in a dream and what is the thing I actually dreamt about.

[@SkyfallBlindDreamer]

Also, memory in dreams is highly malleable, so creating false memories is easy.

[@Smartzenegger]

@@SkyfallBlindDreamer Thank you for your reply. But what I mean is, that in my dreams I rememer things from my past that never happend. Is this a normal thing???

[@SkyfallBlindDreamer]

@@Smartzenegger As far as it happening a lot, not sure, but the process of remembering things that never happened, that is normal. Memory in dreams can be created very easily, and it's easy to convince yourself that you did things that never happened. I've had dreams where entire segments of what I thought I was doing was just memory created in the dream and not even something I did in the dream or while awake.

[@Smartzenegger]

@@SkyfallBlindDreamer I see. It's also that my dreams never reflect what happens in my day to day life. And I still dream of things and people from decades ago.

[@ang3l.0f.kniv3s]

sometimes when i lucid dream i feel like 1/4 the speed of everything else and i feel very heavy. any tips on how to fix this. when i try to resolve it sometimes i end up thinking too hard and waking up

[@SkyfallBlindDreamer]

Schema plays a very important role in dreams and dream control. Things like this can be altered and manipulated. As far as thinking too hard waking you up, the only way I see that waking you up is if you either aren't paying attention to what you are doing or you expect to wake up, wich is a powerful thing. Many times, people think specific things in dreams wake them up but it's generally related to expectations. Emotions are important too, as they influence the theme or mood of dreams. So, first off, what is your emotional state? Are you calm, excited, centered, nervous, anxious, fearful, confident? Then, schema, or your associations. Any associations you have between any things are schema. Your strongest associations are your reality in your dreams. Things happen because you expect them to happen that way, or you associate your experience with things happening a certain way. Case in point, I was dreaming about being in a house that didn't exist but was owned by my uncle. I opened a door, and expected a basement staircase. I was walking without my cane, so I was inching forward to feel the top of the stairs with my foot, and they were exactly where I expected them to be because I expected them to be there. That's just one of many examples that can demonstrate how powerful schema are in dreams.

[@excafrost4510]

What's the game?

[@Kaour1]

Vampire survivor

[@Tipharot]

Generally if there's game background footage you can rewind to the beginning of the video as I'll usually either write or speak the name there. The text is a little bit hard to spot in this one though since it's at the bottom during the timestamp section and only on-screen for a few seconds, but Corentin is right, the game is Vampire Survivors. :)

[@excafrost4510]

@@Kaour1 thanks for the reply

[@excafrost4510]

@@Tipharot ok i will pay more attention in the future then