Tips for Preventing Arc Blow

[@chrisplayz253]

Not a subject that is touched on v often. Bravo !

[@melgross]

Red beard knows what he’s doing. Happy to see that acknowledged here.

[@Gonefishin12]

An apprentice that hasn’t experienced arc blow is in for a very interesting experience!

[@amielrumbaua8387]

This Old Tony said it and I had it etched in my head, bad audio is a lot harder to endure than bad video .

[@Daniel_D_King]

Come on guys, what has happened to this channel? The audio quality is all over the place, no close up arc shots. Would have been more informative to see the arc blow up close and then the arc using these techniques. Look back over your old work and see what you did well before and replicate it please!

[@amosbackstrom5366]

Yeah what’s the point of even filming the welding part if all you can see is a flashing white out for 30 secs. Put a welding mask over the lens at least fellas lol

[@seansawyers4753]

These days the channel blows more than any arc shots we might be lucky enough to see. Presenters and production values have fucking nose-dived in the past few months.

[@PigeonSwag]

honestly, you know its hit an atl when they almost forget a sponser plug.

[@SOLDOZER]

Do you really need a video to demonstrate what arc blow looks like? Theres dozens already out there, and if you have ever run a single stick you have seen it yourself.

[@TheOneAndOnlySame]

@@SOLDOZER people with little experience might not be sure about what is arc blow and what is not I for one, am one of these people. I had my stick arcs and welds do all kind of (not that) funny stuff and I'm not always sure why . You got to treat each video as the only one , or else why make teaching videos at all considering the quantity already in existence?

[@twestgard2]

IMO there’s a real lack of videos about what NOT to do while welding, especially in the safety aspect. I’d be interested in videos about that.

[@dangoodwin5954]

On pipe, wrapping the ground lead a few times around the pipe will often do the trick. Especially for guys who make a lot of stuff from old oil field pipe. Drill stem tends to have a strong magnetic field from all the one direction rotation it sees. Lotta fence gets built with that stuff and it can be a common problem.

[@dalespilker2465]

Love the topic covered! I have horrible issues with it in my students weld booths. Primarily in the 2G position though. I've tried all the tricks...with the exception of the two grounds hooked together. I'm glad I saw this before my class came in this morning, we are going to give it a shot today! Several years ago I had a non traditional arc blow issue with a item in a weld positioner (rotator). We fixed the issue by taking a 100 foot lead and wrapping it around the item in the rotator. It worked but I feel like this may have been a much better and quicker solution to the problem. P.S.- Love the FOX EV 50 rods! I used to use these a whole ton as they were specifically required in the procedure I was working to/with. Like you said one of the smoothest 7018 rods I've ran, right from the vacuum sealed packed as well as out of the oven.

[@a.bakker64]

What happend to Mancub and Redbeard? Did they quit the channel?

[@justzooken2649]

Here in Australia you learn about both of these solutions to avoid arc blow in the first year of your boilermaking apprenticeship

[@Weld513arc]

These are awesome welding hacks to eliminate Arc blow I have done one of those hacks and it make it less frustrating

[@vasilistrimis8260]

Extremely informative and detailed tutorial on an advanced phenomenon that's hidden in plain sight!❤

[@rvalcourtpersonaca]

Very interesting video , I ran into a severe case of arc blow just a couple days ago then this video came out. Go figure. I made a mess that I’m ashamed of, very close quarters could only get a die grinder in there. Now I’m thinking that the jumper cable would not have to be as heavy as what you guys had, maybe a # 10 wire and smaller ground clamps. Right or wrong? I also have a Lincoln squarewave 200 and I contacted Lincoln if I could set up the machine on AC for aluminum and use a stinger with a regular welding rod to finish the job but they told me they didn’t recommend it. I wish I would have known about this jumper cable trick. Had to use lots of paint to for a coverup.

[@chrisking7881]

The jumper should work being smaller. I just used what I had available. As long as it’s creating the path for the magnetic field it should work. Let us know if otherwise.

[@blackhawkinternationalsecu6962]

That's a neat trick. I'll try that next time

[@mohammedtroy4296]

chris you are a great teacher i want to see your skills level do a 6g pipe root full and cap SMAW process

[@danl.4743]

Does a great teacher need to be an equaly great welder?

[@mohammedtroy4296]

@@danl.4743 yes if you teaching welding you must be able weld very good only way that is possible is if you keep training by testing yourself i dont want to hear no excuse your eyes bad and every hour you sweet talking the female trainee welder with big talk

[@patriotskingnation8084]

@@mohammedtroy4296 6g pipe smaw ain’t the hardest lmaoo

[@mohammedtroy4296]

@@patriotskingnation8084 i know i testing the entire crew to see if they legit paul legit sawbladehead legit chris and bob still have to get my approval

[@frankk533]

Alabama pipe Welders academy has a brilliant video on arc blow, were they created arc blow, and then talked you through how to get rid of it, very impressive

[@assabetmetalfabrication6143]

Excellent presentation well explained job well done Mate

[@michaelcerva8882]

Thank you. Question Could you tack low, high and middle to have the same effect?

[@JasonVladimir]

Good show! Thanks for sharing!

[@TonaldDrump686]

Guy goes to welding class, instructor talks about arc blow, Oddly, on that day, every rod I burn has wicked arc blow. Like 90 degrees sideways. Next class session instructor discussed other welding things, So I go to burning rods and Oddly arc blow is no longer present....🤔. We all use the same 50lb box of rods. Is there “training” rods for arc blow...?

[@Welddotcom]

I don't believe so

[@dalespilker2465]

If such a thing exists Id love to have some. Just to mess with friends!

[@SOLDOZER]

Should put the clamps on the same side of the plate and see if putting it on opposite sides is really needed

[@michaelhenry4969]

I wonder if you could use a jump lead. Everyone has them. Maybe it has to be a short wire?

[@PigeonSwag]

probably not ideal, but ive used them for extra grounds and whatnot. given how much higher the conductivity of copper is over steel, I wouldnt be suprised if even 25ft/8m of high quality jumper cable had lower resistance than some steel plate.

[@vladshmit]

Didn't you guys use the Fronius machine with Lincoln Electric gloves? ))) Thanks for the video! Not the common subject for the tutorials!

[@chrisking7881]

The machine used is the Lincoln power wave 300 C

[@vladshmit]

@@chrisking7881 Nice machine! Very accurate and advanced! The electrode holder confused me. I have the TP150 with the same holder )

[@MrEquilibrium01]

Ok, this is my guess as to why that works. I would have to do some tests, but from what I can gather regarding why it happens, it would have to do with the path of least resistance. That current is going to want to follow the path of least resistance and by using copper or any other metal of lesser resistance than steal or whatever other metal your welding and giving that current a way out and back around rather than pinching it to the top of those pieces of plate sticking up in the air like that your current has no other choice but to go back down hence you get that pinch of Magnetic resistance. Buy clamping the 18-inch copper ground from the top to the bottom, and sence copper offers less resistance than steel. The natural path it is going to want to flow is through the copper, although copper does offer less resistance. the length and the gauge size is rather important as well. If it is too long or too thin, the copper wire could inturn add resistance and then wouldn't work as you would be back at square one. This is just an educated theory. It would need further testing. Hope that gives some ideas as to what's going on and can help provide better alternatives to magnetic ark blow.

[@isaaclawrence8396]

Can this occur on tplates. I have trouble on overhead t plates sometimes and I can never tell if it's due to a gap in the base metals, or if it's the magnetism

[@chrisking7881]

Yes, it can certainly occur on T plates.

[@mattfogarty8144]

Hold a very tight arc and aim at the top plate slightly then set the machine to about 118 or 119 amps for an 1/8th inch 7018 88 to 90 for a 3/32nd 7018 and you'll be fine tight arc is key then just watch it get nice and round and run it

[@keithjurena9319]

Magnetic fields are created by current but there could be residual magnetic fields in the steel. Electricity follows the path of least resistance, copper is a much better conductor so the double clamp works quite well, providing you have clean steel where clamping.

[@lucasjonesbass9338]

Another great one, keep up the good work! :-)

[@TheOneAndOnlySame]

And to avoid weld blows? I mean my welds blow Serious note tho : audio quality is very poor. Are you recording in a very noisy environement and filter the noise out ? that sure sounds like it... It'll be better for sure to record during a quiet(er) time rather than having a filter mangle the audio like this. Also, too much repetitions in the talk. Don't hesitate to edit out

[@PigeonSwag]

it wouldnt be a stretch to say a new mic might fix the situation, along with the editing

[@schmalzilla1985]

You guys should do a thing on forge welding. It's welding, and your weld.com. makes perfect sense to me. Forging is the original method to modern metalworking.

[@mattfogarty8144]

Tight arc let the plate cool down when doing vertical up as you get to each side twist your wrist itll cut off the cone at the end of the rod and eliminate it the best solution to arc blow is keep a very tight arc and let the plate cool down tbh and it's a good habit to hold a tight arc anyways even without arc blow your weld will turn out better

[@mattfogarty8144]

Also in the flat position if you get arc blow go from a drag to a push towards the end itll go away

[@johndeninger8905]

good info, thanks

[@jamesmillerick5787]

I feel as if my eyes were just opened🔥🔥🔥

[@MrDillaKilla]

I'm not overly enthusiastic about this new guy, or the channel in general these days. No close up weld shots, and dwindling material.

[@Kamalashairypussy]

Reminds me of my welding school

[@charliescustom]

Sorry folks , seems to me this channel has went down hill very quickly. Arc blow is real and as welders we all deal with it. Sure would have been nice to see the arc blow happen and use these tips to fix it. Sure do miss bob and crew !!!!!

[@lordphullautosear]

If one has a DC only welder, would pulsing be effective in minimizing the conditions that cause arc blow?

[@Slagithor9000]

I think its worse with pulse, at least for MIG. They'll get magnetic blow if the line is rolled up in a lot of tight loops.

[@lordphullautosear]

@@Slagithor9000 -- I have a smallish combination TIG and stick welder, 180 amp, and it has pulse capability. I know that stick can be pulsed, but haven't tried it myself yet. And yes, loops in a cable can be problematic because induction is a thing, so I sometimes have to disconnect and unkink cable(s) that have too much "twist" in them...keeps the variables to a minimum. I like that little double-ended work clamp "jumper" idea mentioned in the video and might just have to make one.

[@Slagithor9000]

@@lordphullautosear I didn't even know that stick would run well on pulse! And I'm totally going to make one of those clamps too! I'm constantly fighting magnetism!

[@lordphullautosear]

@@Slagithor9000 I personally haven't tried pulsing stick, but I did watch a video about exactly that (can't remember the channel, but I'm sure a search will reveal it). I'll probably give it a shot when my new welding helmet arrives, though. All I have is a handheld shield with a small crappy window right now, LOL, and my friend took back the auto-darkening helmet he had let me borrow. I got spoiled. The adventure continues...

[@PigeonSwag]

probably not. for hobbyists, the easiest solution is just moving the ground clamp. our work is generally small enough that we can reposition it anywhere we like. all you need to do is change the grounding characteristics and the "magnetic pinch" moves somwhere else, probably not where you wanna weld.

[@SuperAWaC]

this video was hard to watch because of the audio

[@phillhuddleston9445]

You don't watch audio :-)

[@harrypehkonen]

I swear I have experienced arc blow on AC. But then again, I'm a newbie, so don't really know what I'm talking about. Could there be any truth to my claim?

[@welderleekoreanwelder4273]

정말 잘하시네요😄

[@_multiverse_]

I thought I saw Bob, I am sad

[@moya4745]

Nice

[@AustinDorris]

Why does it sound like that while welding?

[@Slouworker]

Welcome to the arc blow zone. Only blow I side anime plates

[@PigeonSwag]

Quivering arc Double J groove

[@acefreely3556]

Anyone else here from Sam the cooking guy ?? Lol. I already sub to Abom.

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[@Mountainmonths]

interesting

[@שיהימןובניו]

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