Tips, Tricks and BATTLEGROUPS! My Recommendations | Broken Arrow

[@VulcanHDGaming]

I have since recording this already changed quite a lot in my battlegroups. This is a good thing to point out. Always iterate on your battlegroups in between games. Think of what you were missing, what you needed that you didn't have and try and improve on that. Most important part however is have fun!

[@comanderlucky656]

Thanks for the groups, tips, and the help, can't wait to implement them to my own :)

[@Handler217]

Honestly, really all jusy testing out ehat works and doesnt

[@removed7331]

I think that's what great about games like this that allow people to build decks and have multiple options for how to play. The only issue is I hope it doesn't become too complex with so many vehicles and modifications to choose from, that it becomes a chore to find what works for you after dozens of games of trying different combinations. I think 3 divisions is the perfect balance with enough, but not too many options that you'll get bored. I think the next step for them is going for European units, I don't know if they're working on that, but it would be great to see.

[@Anttown123]

@@removed7331nah you are alone here. That was the best thing about this game. All diffrent combinations and cool units. 3 would be to few for me i feel like they have thought it out well with 5. We dont even have the F-22 raptor for christ sake.

[@Anttown123]

@@removed7331i read that china Will be first Dlc followed by germany. But smaller countries wont need 5 groups ofc. Since they wont be having as many diffrent units i belive.

[@Little_Spooky27]

Just figured out you can spend more points than what’s stated on the tab long as you stay under 10k total. So many hours of min maxing for nothing lol.

[@_TrueDesire_]

Yes 10% 😁

[@toby4235]

I’m pretty sure they’re just a recommended amount!

[@WellBattle6]

@@toby4235You’re limited to 10% above the limit of each category.

[@K_R87]

Ya just learned this also lol

[@tomfahey2823]

A nice tip for Russian players combatting US air openings is to deploy 2x S300/S350s and a single cheap plane, then bait the enemy fighters to your AA, positioned at the spawn location. Whilst the enemy team will lose ~300 points for every plane you shoot down (taking around 2-3 minutes to recoup), you can simply sell your AA on the spot after they've fired their missiles, instantly getting most* of your points back - which you can then spend on infantry/transports to capture the points! *Some of the deployment cost isn't refunded if a unit is damaged or has expensed some of its ammo.

[@xxtoptankxx6873]

I thought ammunition being used lowers the refund price? Still very effective but it unfortunately allows enemy team much ground if they decide to fly paratroops

[@tomfahey2823]

@@xxtoptankxx6873 You're correct, it does - I should edit my comment 👍

[@thatkancolleguy]

that massive disparity between the tactical nukes is a bummer and something that should be balanced but there are definitely more pressing issues.

[@MoneGetsIt]

I can't wait to see the single player campaign, as microing in PVP is too much for me in RTS games. So many really good RTS games are coming out right now, it feels like the late 90s/early 2000s.

[@Little_Spooky27]

What other ones have you been checking out? Always looking for more strategy games.

[@danielmolyneaux6810]

​@@Little_Spooky27WARNO is good.

[@Little_Spooky27]

@@danielmolyneaux6810I was a big red dragon player but never bothered with warno, might have to pick it up to try.

[@MoneGetsIt]

@@Little_Spooky27 WARNO and Regiments are very good. You should get the Ash and Shadows mod for Wargame: Red Dragon, it's free.

[@iansmith3301]

@@Little_Spooky27 Beyond All Reason

[@Chewywrinkles]

It feels like you’re sleeping on JASSMs. B-1 can carry 24 precision cruise missiles and yeet them from safely inside your air defense lines. F15ex can also carry 3 of them.

[@sinnombre__]

I'm hoping they add the JLTV (Oshkosh L-ATV) MRAP for the US. In modern times the humvee is obsolete, so im not exactly sure why they added so many variations of it. I mean, the Russians have the Typhoon VDV, an MRAP from 2019! According to Wikipedia, it's supposed to partially replace the Humvee instead of totally replace it. Maybe adding the JLTV as a secondary upgrade option for the humvee? Kinda like the soviet tanks, for example, the T-80 or T-90 have modernization variants

[@makarov718]

It will probably be in a future deck like a motorized deck with rangers and stuff

[@Det_core]

It's in the Stryker deck

[@HerrKitz]

I think humvees there are for airborn and airdrops. You are not dropping modern mraps from planes

[@punish01]

MRAPS will be present, they were in previous beta (motorized US variant)

[@BGnome94]

vulcan a small detail about the TUSK kit on the abrams is that it pushes it to 19 HP which means it goes from a 3 shot to a 4 shot in tank on tank combat since all tanks do 6 damage if they can penetrate the armor

[@tisme799]

Looked up this video to help with getting propper deck, and when it reaches the "worst deck" section noticed its lowkey what I run. Hopefully I can adjust to make it a bit more usefull for how i play

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Helpful, thanks!

[@Yggr153]

Does this mean we will get a BA video soon?

[@Stealth17Gaming]

@staggerdagger Not sure yet. There's already so much out there that I'm not sure I can contribute to the content much

[@Recon19D3]

I'm debating the cost of upgrades over unit variety. So far I don't have any upgraded units but found I don't even need half of my units so thinking the points are better off as upgrades and less variety.

[@Handler217]

Pretty much the same for me, too. Testing and dont find myself using half the forces at all. I barely even use infantry and mostly just the specializations instead like stinger teams or tow teams. Most of my infantry are all recon and they do extremely well in both cqb and forests fights. Even better when ambushing tanks

[@removed7331]

Upgrades make a big difference in most units, I would say it's worth swapping out units that don't work out for you, or units you don't often use, for upgrades on the units you do use. Take a look at Vulcans video going over both factions because he goes over what upgrades are worth going for and what ones aren't.

[@VulcanHDGaming]

@@Recon19D3 Upgrades that improve health or front armour are usually worth taking. APS as well.

[@Anttown123]

Miss this game so much already😢

[@supreme_spooner.7910]

thank god just the video i need and when i needed it

[@spartnmarcen5110]

Really hoping they fix fog of war. Not spotting enemies, even with recon, until you are right on top of them (in the woods) is a pain on forested zones. I do love the Thunderbolt. So small but oh such a fun and powerful flanking tool. I once used an Osprey and Helicopters at the start and the sheer speed of the Osprey was incredible. I DID wonder why it took forever to land. Might be a nice stat to have without 1v1s to test things right now.

[@AlohaGaming513]

I thought this beta had custom games? Saw some dude talking about a 1v2 so I'd imagine a 1v1 is possible

[@itsericzhou]

It’s the only way to balance the sheer speed of the osprey 500 compared to others which fly around 250-270.

[@itsericzhou]

@@AlohaGaming513yeah so make a custom and to 1v1 you lock every slot not in use. I did it to test the different AAs against SEAD and cruise missiles. Tldr do not use the tor for anything other than killing helis. It can’t even defend itself from SEAD half the time

[@AlohaGaming513]

@@itsericzhou ill keep that in mind for the tor but tbh I main US. I made an airborne and armored setup that's worked phenomenally for me to the point I don't even touch any of my tanks, maybe 1 or 2 but more often than not probs just the recon tank

[@jamesflessas1168]

Remember if they fix fog of war for YOU, they fix for the enemy too...

[@linustalbot439]

One thing about the Russian naval armor build you showed. I tried it out but I noticed you don’t have any logi trucks which makes it really hard to save any immobile vehicles which doesn’t happen too often but it sucks when you have a t-14 stuck in a treeline and no way to effectively save it

[@VulcanHDGaming]

@linustalbot439 Yeah I think I've added a couple retroactively since.

[@royce101st]

word for the wise dont bring any troops in helos they may or not show up 50% of the time.

[@tonyng3285]

😂😂

[@cisarovnajosefina4525]

Or the big plane

[@HalIOfFamer]

I really thought this game would be something up my alley but it's mostly just missile spam from current expirience. Tho maybe campaign will be different at least since we'll be dealing with limited resources.

[@dfwerwolf]

ERA on terminator also gives you an extra healthpoint.

[@densubrussia]

No supply trucks at all 💀

[@sectero9450]

Cause they don't have any? Thats why i took marine air group, it's fucked up with atgm and helicopters.

[@densubrussia]

​@@sectero9450naval has 3 supply trucks with 30.000 kg each. I don't remember how they're named. But they're really slow

[@GrumpBurger]

Thx! Need this, I suck lol

[@razgriz4118]

I am curious on anyone’s thoughts about this one, my favorite deck is an Armored airborne deck however I’m only using about 5 airborne units the rest is Bradley and Abrams spam. I have 16 Bradley variants I can bring into the field. 6 Abrams a decent variety of infantry though honestly I mostly use my cav scouts supported by their Brad to push and mech engineers for the blaam I’ve had pretty good luck with the deck and I wonder what people would think about such an armor focused deck

[@steadyjumper3547]

Big tip For newbies- air tax. That is all

[@Nabetse963]

What appen when u hover the limites for unit point ?

[@fernandoalvarado7248]

I have doubts about transport. With infantry you have four infantry units but only one transport as in the case of the Barbaris. If you could help me with that

[@destroyer7713]

Wait so how do you get acess to more vehicles because when you change decks there was more available types of units?

[@viclamota]

Vulkan im having a lot problems with antialiasing in this game, things are like weird, folliage and stuff, can you please tell me version of your driver if is nvidia and show your settings?

[@waffen137]

I really want to play the beta but there's way too many performance issues and bugs. I've seen some threads of the game bricking some PC's due to memory leaks and other issues and having crashed myself a couple times I don't want to risk it.

[@Getooooofed]

Just started playing, I do have a a relatively nice pc so that prob helps, but I haven’t ran into performance issues on max graphics, so maybe it will be ok on medium graphics for lower end pcs.

[@gamerboi5678]

I love the game so much but I am stuck in the 5-10 FPS (Frames per second) world i have no idea why or how to get the camera smooth the game runs nicely with no crashes or whatsoever my team mates complain as to how I do not help but in reality I'm trying everything I can in the 5-10 FPS world I even lowered the graphics to potato despite of having a good pc......help?

[@thatoneguy1741]

Playing on an i7 with a 1660Ti 💀

[@amYearsAgo-ib3rp]

When does the beta end?

[@AlohaGaming513]

The B1 with the 24 2000lb bombs is more effective than a nuke

[@VulcanHDGaming]

Yeah for sure!

[@AlohaGaming513]

@VulcanHDGaming it's actually hilarious how many pushes ive completely leveled with it before they even had a chance to shine. Its beautiful lmao

[@nkarlewicz]

Do you know how long this beta goes for ?

[@deusameno579]

+1

[@VulcanHDGaming]

2 weeks from last Tuesday afaik

[@sgtace]

09:05 no - take katrans with cruise missiles, reload them at supply - shoot again. It's best cringe-au missile launcher on orks side

[@eriklinkogel6399]

Are the M-ATVs gone?

[@agidyne9676]

Broken Arrow? Do we have a release date yet? Or another playtest? I wanna try this game out again.

[@waffen137]

There is currently an open beta available. The slitherine next fest they just announced seemed to tease they were going to announce the release date then.

[@justkris6461]

Man I got destroyed several times by those op attack helos. They are so hard to kill

[@AlohaGaming513]

Stingers ive wiped out groups of 4+ attack helos with 2 stinger teams grouped up and supplied and each time it's happened only 1 heli had enough time to shoot This is better for the US as their stinger teams come with 2 launchers vs only 1 with the Russian teams

[@tomfahey2823]

The root of the problem is that Attack Helicopters are still able to fire back when you hit but don't kill, or the missile goes for the flares/chaff, meaning that - more often than not - you will see attack helicopters coming out on top against units specifically designed to counter them e.g SPAA This not only totally undermines the rock-paper-scissors basis for the game, but is also totally unrealistic in my opinion - no sane helicopter pilot is going to react to almost being shot down by a SAM by calming sitting still and lining up an ATGM to shoot back. I think it would make much more sense for near misses/non-critical hits on helicopters to result in a temporary aim penalty, where they're unable to acquire a new target for 5-6 seconds. That way, expensive attack helicopters would still be able to beat cheap SPAA as long as they fired first, but you wouldn't get situations where an SPAA ambushes an Attack Helicopter and still loses to it.

[@justkris6461]

@@AlohaGaming513 yep. Tested it and they are effective against them

[@GrumpBurger]

@@tomfahey2823 Exactly this! In Warno I believe this is already a thing and conventional AA and manpad AA is extremely dangerous for helicopters

[@McLoed22]

If you had to choose one Broken Arrow or Warno, which would you choose? Asking for a dad gamer.

[@kerlowsc3397]

Broken arrow Is free rn due to it being in beta who knows when it will release maybe next year warno is out rn so both

[@Captainkebbles1392]

Is this pvp only rn or practice vs AI too?

[@christopherhodgdon8638]

You can make custom games to fight ai and do some scenarios against the ai as well

[@Captainkebbles1392]

​@@christopherhodgdon8638thanks fam

[@GrumpBurger]

@@christopherhodgdon8638 Huh where I wasn't able to

[@christopherhodgdon8638]

@GrumpBurger i found that too sadly that in custom you can't fight ai but you can in the scenarios

[@El_Bratto]

how do you supply your units with the first russian deck ? you stealing from your mates ?

[@catfunt5583]

Yeap lol. Watching videos he does that a lot. This is definitely not a team focused build. But he does really well with it so I can’t hate. People shouldn’t understimate support decks, I made that focused on making a shit ton of 2k supply depots and counter battery, had like 3 scout units, then the rest was just eagle eyeing the map to knock out sams and arty, and spamming logistic nodes where my team mates were. Went on like a 10 game win streak.

[@helpinghelper4151]

Omg what are these ranges? 1300m for tank guns?

[@garrettaguiar1796]

WHERE IS THE HIMARS!!!!!!!!!!

[@nikoloso]

They removed it from armored specialization. I think they are putting it in the last US specialization, air defence artillery

[@josiahweber7285]

@@nikoloso It was in the USMC specialization.

[@Yrahcxz]

They ganna fix the mid-game like 15min into opening the application of the game itself just force closing with no log or error code? Shit wasnt happening yesterday or the day before. But today, couldn't even play a single game for 15min before my game just force closes for no reason. Incredibly infuriating. Last beta was NOT this bad wtf are they doing and not doing that they should be, their dev team needs money. They should release in EA this shit is ass, cash in with EA, immediately upgrade their servers and spend like a solid month ironing out the 1.0 release patch In the current state this shit won't launch for another 6mo to a year at best

[@umutcetinkaya9069]

Vulcan whats your opinion about this please respond ❤❤ The atgms are too weak or the armor is too powerful we can just armor rush like wargame red dragon cant even ambush properly with Russian stuff i thought tanks were kind of supposed to be supported by infantry ın ww3 as we can see on ukraine What can ı say ı just want to see infantry combat with armor support im sick of wargame spamming

[@apauloh]

Practice combined efforts with infantry, armor, and aviation. I personally soften up an armored push with 2x Apaches or KA-52’s, respectively. After they hit the column a few times, return to re-arm, push tanks forward to engage, then pull back once your attack helis have been re-armed and repaired.

[@umutcetinkaya9069]

​@@apauloh exactly mann there is no part for infantry only manpads and to give fear to the enemy so they don't try to get close

[@apauloh]

@ well, softening a target up is still effective: You can disable their tracks/wheels, reload speed, and detection range, after all. I also have seen squads of infantry, such as Airborne troops or VDV DSh merking my SEP V3’s. Have them fight in taller buildings, as opposed to one-story buildings. Maybe have them hold fire and hit them in the back, where their armor is weakest. I personally am a fan of the 2x Apaches, and armored counter push. Edit: I use my infantry to open up on them in case my armor isn’t around. You should deploy them first, post-airtax. And in conjunction with some armor

[@Recon19D3]

Infantry is great for an initial push via vehicle or Blackhawk to grab control points. Then have them hold up in buildings supported by Apaches while your armor and artillery can move up to hold a line. Then I just leave them in the buildings to hold ground

[@apauloh]

@ this right here^^^

[@BuisnessNinja]

The Russian bias in this game is hilarious. t-14/15 are absolutely insane and that heli lmao. they dont even exist irl but in this game they are unbeatable haha