Tire Upgrade! Arrma Vorteks Testing the Pro-line Racing Badlands MX28 HP 2.8" Belted Tire

[@billionnaire1]

Love the proline wheels with removable hexes, so easy and cheap to swap tyres between different cars.

[@RoadsideRC]

EXACTLY! Honestly, at first I thought it was a silly gimmick to sell more expensive wheels....but now that I have a set, it is GREAT.

[@Houleigan]

I was thinking of doing this. Get a Vortek and change out the tires. Awesome review! hanks for sharing!

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for watching!

[@tyrellcorp2118]

Then just get a Granite. No extra tires needed. The entire point of the Vortex is low shock tires, low shocks, smaller tires for lower center of gravity.

[@Houleigan]

@@tyrellcorp2118 Ture, I ended up buying a 6s Typhon roller

[@michaelorr3487]

Good day sir I am very happy that you are doing the series on the vortex. I have a purple one coming soon. This will help me out a lot. I am new to the hobbie but you would never know with my collection. Thanks in advance and keep having fun 🤩

[@RoadsideRC]

Great! Feel free to ask questions along the way!

[@SIRICKO]

Stock tires and wheels hands down!!!!!!!!!!

[@robschierbaum]

Very nice tires my friend. Great video.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you!

[@JesseBMotors]

Now you got me excited even more to get my big rock switch to 17mm 👍🏻

[@RoadsideRC]

Great! Yes, I think these tires worked out very nicely.

[@GreatLakesRC]

That's a good look! And here I just bought a set of the stock Katars for my Big Rock 🤣

[@patmarcus172]

Be really interested to hear how that works out. So sick of the ballooning of the stock tyres but maybe the badlands deliver the absorbency for big jumps together with the lack of ballooning.

[@RoadsideRC]

I'll be interested to hear your take on that combo!

[@GreatLakesRC]

@@RoadsideRC Update: got the tires and they are way to small for the BIg rock. They are fantastic on the Senton though 🤩 I have the Proline monster SCT body and the Vorteks tires are perfect!

[@16adrianrico]

Just ordered all the parts from the 17mm hex to the tires! Friday couldn't be here any sooner lol 😎

[@RoadsideRC]

Awesome! Hope you like it!

[@warpspeed9.985]

Awesome video man!! Looks like an super upgrade. I have the whole Arrma 3s line. 2 sentons. I'm gonna have to get one of these. 😆😆😆😆

[@RoadsideRC]

Sounds like you do need one!

[@XethanhanzX]

Another great video man.. got my Trenchers 2.8 belted already with Hotracing 12mm hex conversion, just waiting for my Vorteks.. :-)

[@RoadsideRC]

Great! Make sure you have a good quality 3S battery also! This ESC is power hungry!

[@XethanhanzX]

@@RoadsideRC I already have a couple of HRB Graphene 3s 5000mah 100c waiting for my Vorteks :-D

[@restinpiecesrc5528]

One thing that surprised me with the belted tires from proline is theyre surpringly light for their size. Im running mx38 hp belted badlands on my CEN racinf reeper

[@RoadsideRC]

I bet they do great on that truck!

[@restinpiecesrc5528]

@@RoadsideRC yeah they really do, mine rips as long as i keep it straight

[@TheZax85]

Just subbed... You do an awesome job at tinkering and trying things out - keeps it interesting and fun to watch *thumbs up*

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you Morten!

[@SuperchargedJester]

I just ordered these tires, hope they don't rub with the typhon arms!

[@RoadsideRC]

I bet they will do great!

[@donniemarks94]

I got these wheels/tires in my Amazon shopping cart for the vorteks, wasn’t sure about them on the vorteks because I thought they might be too big but after seeing this I definitely have too get them 😁👍

[@RoadsideRC]

They did really well for me!

[@KurtsRCs]

Nice upgrade it looks good a lot more ground clearance too

[@RoadsideRC]

You are right!

[@restinpiecesrc5528]

Im kind of wondering how a big rock would change handling and driveability wise if the shocks and shock towers were changed to a vorteks. I know it would need a new body but itd still be interesting to see

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting thought for sure!

[@JagImaging]

Adding those to my list of parts I want! lol

[@RoadsideRC]

They have done well for me!

[@JagImaging]

@@RoadsideRC How do they compare in size to the Granite tires?

[@RichD]

Queue the tree for soft landings! Nice upgrade!

[@RoadsideRC]

Really need more trees...

[@tshellycreations9059]

I want these tires for my big rock!! Great video!!👍🏻😎

[@RoadsideRC]

They should go very well on there!

[@Reecefpv]

I'm so scared to actually jump mine. I did It a couple times but I don't see how y'all all go so high but land perfectly and not destroy everything lol it has to take forever to get used to.

[@RoadsideRC]

Ha! You will work up to it!! Practicing air control is key! Gas brings the nose up, brake brings it down!

[@jamiestevens9381]

Build. Bash. Break. Repeat. The cycle of R/C lol

[@jakesgr8sakiorjoe58]

I have found that the higher you jump the easier it is to land shiny side up because you have more time to throttle it and get it level. But that doesn’t mean I don’t put it on the roof occasionally. I actually have the Granite and it’s totally stock except I put the wing on it to protect the back of the body but that thing is tough as nails. Except the tires. 😂 That’s why I am watching this video.

[@chrisgraves7325]

Thx for down to earth vid w links! Ya ya ordered

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad to help! Thanks for the kind words.

[@TheRfts2011]

Have they been burning the motor up faster? My dad had these on a traxxas slash and his motor would overheat really quickly on 3S.

[@RoadsideRC]

I have had no issues. Traxxas electronics are notorious for overheating.

[@eReSRCCar]

Nice upgrades 👍👍

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@bigandcoolrcschool294]

That was very cool! I love my sc badlands on my senton! Just a really awesome tire for it. Those MX badlands tho, just give it that extra mean look! They seem to look a lot better too!

[@RoadsideRC]

Agree - I love how they look on this truck!

[@brianu33]

Is the body hitting with the adapters on it-the ones that changed the MM size? It looked like they would have the tire sitting out a little further than the stock

[@RoadsideRC]

I didn't use adapters. I used Typhon 3S stock axles. I typically avoid adapters as they lead to more breakages.

[@brianu33]

I’m looking for a little more ride height so I can go across grass without dragging. Thanks

[@RoadsideRC]

Hope this helped!

[@brianu33]

@@RoadsideRC and I just buy the band lands with 14mm hex ? Is that correct

[@RoadsideRC]

@@brianu33 Yes - that will work.

[@fergsrcenjoyinglife352]

Looks great with the badland tires. I just got my vorteks about a 4 days ago and i love it. Did notice after running it the first time , a little warm inside when i took the body off after running, thinking about venting it a little on the back of the cab. When i ran it it yesterday, on a cooler day outsidethe compartment did not get as warm. Wonder what your thoughts would be on this. Im kind a new at this just starting out this year with RC' s . I got a Typhon, love it and also a Kraton . Love your tips. Built my first ramp a week ago, been havi g fun with it and have a nothdr ramp started.

[@RoadsideRC]

Great! These do generate some heat. Getting good fans is important, and letting it cool off. Venting the body will not hurt!

[@16adrianrico]

What's a good fan? I'm new to this hobby as well! Love my vorteks but it does run a little hot and makes me nervous lol

[@perichi101]

Hy. Im sorry asking, did not catch If you said..did you change the pinion gear for less tooth because of the small size difference? And what is the punch setting on that Vorteks? Z Thx.

[@RoadsideRC]

Stock punch setting. No change to pinion gear size.

[@perichi101]

@@RoadsideRC thx. Asking because mine on same settings on 3S is not doing wheelies at all. Its fast and all but does not have that crazy wheelie kick. So it must be the slipper clutch to loose...will se. Thx

[@rynoriffs1984]

Might have to try some on mine. 👍🏼

[@RoadsideRC]

They have been great for me!

[@mikestranzl6873]

Ever run those tires on a Rustler VXL 4x4? The Vortex looked like it handled great

[@RoadsideRC]

Never run them on a Rustler, sorry.

[@crimsonfancy]

Good show! I also use Harbor Freight coupons every single time I go. 😉

[@RoadsideRC]

Ha! Thanks!

[@hellorc7678]

👋👋👋hello Jason just changed my tires on the vanquish. Those look great! But I don't wanna install them lol I just learned tonight what belted tires meant Like I was thinking I could just add a belt to the ones I already have 😆 Soooo much to learn about these rcs'..liz

[@RoadsideRC]

There is so much to learn on RC for sure! Especially each time we enter a new aspect of it! Thanks for the nice comment!

[@MrMitchDawson]

HI Troy how did you get your vorteks sitting so wide ? I've got the belted badlands on my sons vorteks but they are ripping the body to bits, I've heard the typhoon arms set it a bit wider ? any advice would be appreciated

[@RoadsideRC]

You are right - the Typhon arms do widen the truck. This is the stock Vorteks arms. Pro-line does offer different offset hexes for the wheels. Perhaps that is the difference? You can see I put the 17mm hexes on here, so am using their 17mm hexes also.

[@audricko.alejandro5866]

Hey man! Since i put these tires on my Vorteks, the differential has broken and the gears have broken twice. Could it have something to do with it?

[@RoadsideRC]

I don't think so. I never had that issue the whole time with these tires and wheels.

[@rickrogers2649]

Awesome control in the jumps. Looks cool too.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! 👍

[@ubreakitirepairit3569]

Wheels would look sicker with some red M3 socket cap screws.

[@RoadsideRC]

Nice idea!

[@patmarcus172]

You mentioned that these are belted. I understand that Badlands are available belted or unbelted with the belted versions quite a bit more expensive. Is belted always best if you don’t mind the outlay ? Also, are these vented ? I’m thinking of them as a Big Rock upgrade because the stock tyres are so balloony. Another really helpful vid. Thanks.

[@RoadsideRC]

It certainly helps with ballooning...but they are not vented. Really makes me wonder what will happen when I get water in there...

[@Mapantz1]

I'd like to try some sweep terrain / road crushers on my Vorteks. They have a 1/4 offset, would they fit after doing the 17mm hex conversion like you did? Nice video too!

[@RoadsideRC]

I would think they would fit, but the OD might be a little large.

[@lufenn]

Have you been using these tires for a while and can say how they are on tirewear? Ive had my vorteks with the stock tires for 3 weeks and the rear tires are now slicks. And do you need to use a smaller pinion gear since the tires are bigger?

[@RoadsideRC]

I have actually been using the larger pinion gear still, no issue. If you were the stock tires out that fast, you will wear these down fast also. So far, I have been very happy with them.

[@paulroberts8332]

Thoughts on changing gears ratio with the bigger tyres thanks.

[@RoadsideRC]

I never did. Truck ran great just like this.

[@danturnbull-c8z]

Did you ever have any issues with the stock gearing and these tires? Thanks heaps

[@asfbi]

Kinda wanna get these but the rollover seems like a major downfall and I would prob try the 12 to 14 adapters first

[@RoadsideRC]

I really enjoyed them. Thought they were much better than stock. I only went 17mm because I wanted to also run 1/8 buggy tires at the racetrack.

[@clintmoreno8543]

I didn't know, they made belted ones! I have the mx28 badlands and there not belted.

[@RoadsideRC]

These are the "HP" which is belted.

[@sam01010101]

Hey mate, nice video. Was wonderinf what battery you run in this? And what sort of runtime do you get? Keep up the good work

[@RoadsideRC]

I have swapped over to a 80C battery from Povway - amzn.to/3kZslYB It is priced well and does great. I was getting VERY low run times with some

[@Eric78360]

I'd be curious to see if your diffs strip with the added size and weight.

[@RoadsideRC]

So far, so good! Multiple packs later with no issues. You have to think, they are the same diffs in the Granite/Big Rock, etc.

[@Eric78360]

@@RoadsideRC word of mouth pro line tires for the x maxx blow the diffs. That was the reason I was asking.

[@synergyiii]

Have you done a servo upgrade vid for the vortek?

[@RoadsideRC]

Here you go, it is exactly the same. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYaWg52jjqlopac

[@synergyiii]

@@RoadsideRC are you running the stock pinion with the mx28 tyres? or the speed pinion that comes with the vortek?

[@dfking47]

Since you put the tires on have they effected any of the motor parts.

[@RoadsideRC]

Nope. It works great.

[@chrisginoc]

Hey Troy. Looking to purchase my first 3s rc. I have been having a hard time debating between the Vorteks 3s ie the Typhon 3s What do you think?

[@RoadsideRC]

I personally prefer the Typhon 3S. Comes with the 17mm hex, tires are VERY easy to find, can be "truggified" if you want more clearance, but also can go racing.

[@jaredjds2011]

What’s the stock hex size that comes with the Vorteks? And will the adapter for the tires fit the stock hex?

[@RoadsideRC]

The stock hex is 14mm. Proline offers a hub that matches the 14mm hex.

[@goatafiedatomic4956]

Seeing this a few months later because I’m looking into these. Someone told me that the badlands wear quicker than trenchers on pavement. How have yours been holding up still a lot oh tread?

[@RoadsideRC]

Mine have been great. Honestly - both tires are the same rubber from Pro-line, so I really doubt there would be any wear difference.

[@Josh-xp6st]

So I’m thinking of doing this but would prefer not to unless it would fix an issue I have. After driving it a few times my wheels wobble now. Front and back, I checked to see if everything was tight and all of it was ok. Nothings broke either but it’s just odd….the wobble isn’t horrible but easily noticed. Any idea if this would fix it or what else it could be???

[@RoadsideRC]

Typically, this is the foams inside the tires moving around. As long as it doesn't cause a handling issue, you can ignore it.

[@Josh-xp6st]

@@RoadsideRC ok awesome! Thank you for the info!!!

[@colinhaggas8104]

I bent one of the metal axle stubs on my vorteks almost right away. Check yours, they might be bent too. The slight bend at the end makes the wheel run wobbly. The main reason I want to switch to 17mm hubs is just to get the beefier axle stubs, not run bigger tires. The original posts are skinny and weak.

[@brandonherscher9623]

Will you need to change the pinion in order to keep temps down?

[@RoadsideRC]

I never did, and never needed to.

[@RUZTY1311]

Have you checked the gear mesh and motor bearings? Something sounds off lol How new is your vorteks?

[@RoadsideRC]

Yep! Checked all of that. Truck is almost brand new.

[@cjv29er]

Wow! Those really nice and expensive tire set. …but might try them on my Granite BLX. 😅

[@RoadsideRC]

Ha! Yes, I understand that. They really have done well, for sure.

[@JUNXRCZ]

so cool !

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you! They have worked well.

[@PtsdRC]

Were those 30 mm long? Those hexes? Im trying to put a set on a big rock

[@RoadsideRC]

The hexes are just standard Arrma Typhon.

[@PtsdRC]

@@RoadsideRC ok because they sale different lengths, in trying to figure out how long I need, in your opinion based on what you said about those hot racing adapters spreading out the wheels , that would probably be better in my case, I think my tires are the same size, just different treads, but they are 2.8 trenchers, I went into Cookeville hobbies and it was the first time I've ever been in a hobby store, so man I was so amazed, lol, my mouth was wide open, lol I went in there to just look , I decided that I needed one of everything and thank goodness my wife was with me, she's my safe place in public lol, I decided that I just couldn't run my factory big rock tires anymore that I had bought a month before after building my big rock from a box of parts that was donated to me lol, or I wouldn't have one, any ways I found Jenny's rc and all I got was a body and tires , the rest of it I was able to build, from several different diffs, each one had something wrong that another didn't, I literally at the time had work on anything RC but a Traxxas slash and it was 2wd so it was a whole different level of machine, anyway lol sorry I get to running my head, I bought these tires , I didn't even look at the label, I just knew the size was what I wanted, they were dished for a stampede, so i went back to the wall grabbed the adapter kit thinking it would be what I needed, of course I didn't explain what I was doing, i was getting my ear full because the tires were 100 plus taxes and I was trying to get more stuff on top of them, I learned my lesson, just ask or tell the wife to ask lol, I got just about everything I need to build a outcast, I only lack the center diff and the body and the plastic set you buy off Jenny's rc, the 17mm hexs wouldn't work because they were to short, the 14 were the same, so anyway I have gotten info that I needed to get the 30mm ones in either to make them work, I'm really wanting to finish the outcast but it's getting put on the back burner for now, I also want to say thank you for inviting me to the crawers event, but at the moment my wife is in ark looking after her dad for a month so ill probably catch the next one, I don't drive much unless it's absolutely a have to. Well I was going with all that last part that I had just got the red cat ascent 18, my big gen 8 front pan hard mount screw holes were stripped, I'll probably super glue them in or id rather put scx10iii axles under it so it will be 4 link in front and back, just got to get the transmission plate off a gen 7 or the scx10iii so the links in the front have the fourth link connection place, it was giving to me to, so I got a 2300kv fusion pro in it but when I took off with it, the front axle was looking like it was falling off, I'm sorry I write so much, I guess i got no one to talk to about things rc except for a few of you channel creator that put up with me lol. But thank you for your answer, again thank you for the invite, I'm just not sure about driving and wife not being there, I just moved here too from Arkansas so I only know where very few places are, ok I'm done running my head lmfao, I was just watching your collection of videos and ran into that and it was something I was doing so I asked. Ty and have a good night sir

[@RoadsideRC]

@@PtsdRC Have a good night! I'll see you at a different event!

[@MrJoseph5120]

Did you do the wide hubs or narrow

[@RoadsideRC]

I used these: amzn.to/3h2SmEj

[@phir0002]

With the different size tires, did you change out the stock gear?

[@RoadsideRC]

I had already changed to the speed pinion, and left it like that also.

[@robbennett6053]

Thank you!

[@daviddobson20]

I like to know-how are the temps with those wheels on it

[@RoadsideRC]

Didn't seem to make much difference.

[@donniemarks94]

I just got a brushless senton and I am looking for a good set of on road tires, any suggestions?

[@RoadsideRC]

Honestly, there is very little in on-road tires with the 14mm hex. If you convert to 17mm, you can run 1/8 buggy tires and you would have a whole world of choices.

[@donniemarks94]

@@RoadsideRC thanks for the reply man 👍👍

[@TheBerlyDad]

Has this caused any more stress on the driveline since the tires are bigger and heavier?

[@RoadsideRC]

None that I have noticed. I am even running the high-speed pinion.

[@TheBerlyDad]

@@RoadsideRC good to know! Please put up a video update if that changes.

[@KhaXaL]

@@RoadsideRCHey man, how many T is the pinion you are running in this one?

[@RoadsideRC]

@@KhaXaL I am running the stock pinion.

[@16adrianrico]

Which hex wrench did you use to install the proline tires?

[@RoadsideRC]

I used the factory 6S Arrma tool.

[@16adrianrico]

@@RoadsideRC thanks for you help!

[@phrankdatank]

After adding 17mm hex are your wheels wobbly?

[@RoadsideRC]

I did have one tire that was wobbly. I just bashed on. Sometimes the foams get a little out of alignment. Hasn't been an issue - but did make me second guess my install. :)

[@paxtonbailey8598]

Did you upgrade the servo

[@RoadsideRC]

I did eventually - I went with this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYaWg52jjqlopac

[@51im]

You said in your last video that run time seemed short on the Vorteks. Did the bigger tyres reduce it even further.

[@RoadsideRC]

The run time is just related to the quality of the battery. Stepping up the battery solved the issue, and didnt see any difference with these tires.

[@dlv1l240]

do the tires rub the body at all?

[@RoadsideRC]

Just barely at full lock.

[@rosanoangeles1319]

Are you using the stock pinion?

[@RoadsideRC]

No, I was using the high-speed pinion.

[@nick92065]

I have seen were these tires kill the servo.

[@RoadsideRC]

Not so far for me. I believe many folks don't set their servo endpoints correctly. Let's also be honest though...stock RTR servos rarely last long anyway.

[@markevans3124]

Curious how much more speed you got.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! I have not tested that yet!

[@Quantum_Poet]

what size off set did you use

[@RoadsideRC]

I used these: amzn.to/3OriyWG

[@Quantum_Poet]

@@RoadsideRC Thank You! I found 14mm adapters at my hobby store and installed thoese. Works amazing!

[@geoffreyyoung9043]

What are the dimensions of those Badlands?

[@RoadsideRC]

Hi there! The full specs are here: alnk.to/6xKO6Fc

[@geoffreyyoung9043]

@@RoadsideRC Thank you sir!

[@sparks701]

Did you gear down at all?

[@RoadsideRC]

I actually geared up - I'm running the 20T pinion!

[@sparks701]

@@RoadsideRC vorteks is my 1st rc. Reason I ask is almost everywhere I’ve seen bigger tires put on people say to gear down because larger wheels is the same as gearing up?? I’m still trying to sort all that out in my head lol. I like the look and would like to keep the stock wheels for hardpack and street and the badlands for grass and rougher terrain. That way I can keep the 14mm hex for both for quick changes.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes, to keep the same speed, gearing down is exactly what you would want to do. I wanted more speed, so was OK with the additional from the tires.

[@sparks701]

@@RoadsideRC thanks for the tip. Been learning a lot from your channel. Keep it up!

[@LesAdventuresdeschtisNomade]

cool 😎 😍👍

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you!

[@ChrisJones-fm6wp]

This or monster senton? That’s the real question

[@RoadsideRC]

This. The Senton body catches all of the dirt/grass, etc.

[@nathans.8063]

I wanted these but $110 for a set!? That’s almost as much as new mountain bike tires, for a lot less rubber.

[@RoadsideRC]

I get it! This hobby does get expensive sometimes. I have tried multiple cheaper options...but always end up let-down. The wheels are weak, etc.

[@Phil_4young]

Proland Badland

[@RoadsideRC]

I do like them!

[@ZeekMX]

I prefer Hobby Park 2.2 belted Raptor low profile tire.

[@RoadsideRC]

Nice! I should get a set to try!

[@societalpreferences9182]

those are the wrong size tires you need the 2.70x5.05's not the 2.10x5.02's. the inside of those wheels are gonna rub on the C hubs, also because of how skinny and tall they are they will cause the car to flip a lot easier.

[@RoadsideRC]

Hmm. Neither of these things happened over MANY battery packs I ran through it with these tires on it.

[@crazylarryjr]

I hate those wheels, just another break point to me. But don't worry they offer aluminum replacements for 3x the price

[@RoadsideRC]

The wheels? I would be really shy of running aluminum wheels on a basher. That weight would be rough. These plastic wheels have held up to some great abuse so far!

[@crazylarryjr]

@@RoadsideRC, no no the hubs have an aluminum option. I mean i get it, the point is to create a break point so you don't ruin the whole wheel. But offering an aluminum option just makes it more likely the wheel will break. Given the option, i have never broke a wheel so would appreciate a one piece wheel, as opposed to being forced into these abominations

[@christiansrcs7789]

At that point you probably could of gotten a maxx

[@RoadsideRC]

Still a $100 or so short of a maxx at this point...

[@JeansGelato]

Gonna burn motor out

[@RoadsideRC]

Nope - ran it like this for a LONG time, never had an issue.

[@cherandissanayake9530]

Those tires are too big too ugly

[@RoadsideRC]

That is what people say about me as well... :)