Titan XD's 5.0 Cummins | Common Problems & Reliability

In this video, Jake covers the 5.0 Cummins, specifically the one found in Nissan’s Titan XD. We wouldn’t necessarily say that this was the best decision by Nissan.. But, Jake will cover the background, common problems, reliability, and more for the 5.0 Cummins. The article linked below, written by us, is a more in-depth guide on the common problems (symptoms & causes) and reliability with this engine: dieseliq.com/5-0-cummins-engi...
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00:29 - Nissan Titan XD 5.0 Cummins Engine Background
02:15 - 5.0 Cummins Common Problem #1 - DEF Pump
02:58 - 5.0 Cummins Common Problem #2 - EGR Valve & Cooler
03:43 - 5.0 Cummins Common Problem #3 - Transmission
04:42 - 5.0 Cummins Common Problem #4 - Turbocharger
06:07 - 5.0 Cummins Common Problem #5 - CP4.2 Injection Pump
06:37 - Nissan Titan XD 5.0 Cummins Engine Reliability
08:49 - Hint at Our Next Build!

[@jamesstouffer1845]

I have to respond to this video because you make this engine sound like it's a time bomb, and that couldn't be far from the truth. This engine was used long before 2016 in commercial truck around the world by Nissan, and it's a Cummins so they decided to use it for a needed heavy half ton truck segment with just a few changes. I'm a retired truck driver so I know a lot about diesel engines. First off the CP4 pump is made by Bosh, and is a good pump IF you put good fuel in your tank AND add lubricity additives like hot shot secret or Stanadyne. For those who are reading this and contemplating buying a diesel truck, don't use it for short trips or daily driver if your doing short runs these engines want to run, that's got to be the worst thing for that engine too. That's whey turbo gets clogged as well as the EGR, and change the antifreeze when due. Change the fuel filters when due (every 10,000 miles). I can go on and on, but every diesel truck from Ram, GM, and Ford had the same issues, or worse, why? Because most people who buy diesels don't know how to maintain them and don't tow or need a diesel at all, get a gas truck if you don't tow a lot and be happy! I also need to note Nissan also extended the warranty on the Turbo and the Turbo actuator for 10 years or 150,000 miles, none of the big three did that.

[@8020Media]

James - as I mentioned in the video the engine itself is solid, I understand it's been used in numerous commercial vehicles and other applications before 2016 and continues to be used in others today. My point was that the 5.0 Cummins in the Titan XD hasn't proven to be the most reliable combination so far. But I agree that proper maintenance goes a long way and that a majority of people don't understand the nuances of owning a diesel. Our opinion is always that reliability is earned through proper maintenance. Some engines have some inherent flaws, the 5.0 Cummins doesn't, but outside of a flaw it always comes down to maintenance.

[@jamesstouffer1845]

@@8020Media Thank you

[@wideopenthrottle6508]

Nah these trucks are super underrated. These transmissions are basically the same as the 3500 rams… I’ve towed up to 15k plenty of times and literally tows almost every day👍🏼 I’m tuned and deleted tho. Also If this truck would have had one of your favorite big 3s brand on it sales would have been a lot better as well. But since it’s Nissan…….

[@SupramanTRD]

@@wideopenthrottle6508and because it's underrated you can find them cheaper than a f150 or silverado 1500. Let alone being cheaper than all the larger 3/4 ton trucks

[@dbel723333]

@@SupramanTRD Bought a 2017 Titan XD SL Texas edition 2 days ago. Has 30,000 miles on it. After watching this video and one or two others, it has me a bit concerned on whether I made a good decision or not. Also, you are correct on your comment about it being cheaper than the f 150 and Silverado. I've only been driving it a couple days now and I have to say I love it so far. maybe I should stop watching videos like this ?? :) I'm feeling a little spooked now !!

[@snooktarponcharters7636]

I love these videos of people that don’t own one and are reading the information off a computer! I own a 2017 XD bought it brand new and I have not had any major problems with it! It’s actually one of my favorite trucks I owned. It’s all stock, actually I’m deleting it next week. It has 150k miles on it, I’m a fishing guide and tow a 24’ bay boat everyday, I have a fifth wheel I tow around too, it has plenty of power to tow. The truck is a dog and has incredible lag and dead pedal, the pedal commander is a must in this truck. In my opinion this truck is very underrated. I am a Cummins guy my previous truck was a 2500 ram Cummins. These videos are acting like these trucks are blowing up on the daily. I’ve never really talked to anybody that actually owned one that had major problems with them. I had way more problems with my 6.4 than I’ve had with my XD. I’m excited about the delete, these trucks come alive when deleted. I live in Florida and would drive it to California tomorrow with no worries!

[@8020Media]

S - Well we're glad your XD has been good for you. However, just because you've had a good experience, doesn't mean everyone has had the same experience.. They are MUCH better deleted, but we can't recommend doing so. Regardless, thanks for sharing your experience.

[@kyleturner3709]

I have a 2016 with around 160k miles. Emissions intact. The only issue i've had has been with the transfer case needing replaced (under warranty). Although it never failed and always worked when i needed it to, it would intermittently cause a 4wd fault code. I run hot shots EDT every tank. It overall has been a great truck!

[@8020Media]

Kyle - Thanks for sharing your experience. Glad that you have had a positive experience with it! Hopefully it goes 100k+ more miles for you.

[@333jfish]

I bought a 2016 XD Platinum Reserve with the 5.0. I used to like the truck, but I am at the end with it. Been in the shop 4 times. Nox sensors replaced 3 weeks after I bought it. A month later the coolest reserve tank has a float that broke or got stuck and caused a code I don't remember what it is. 2 months later another code that says the DEF system was contaminated. How that happens I have no idea unless someone dumped a foreign substance in there. If that's what it is that's vandalism. NOW I have a code P249E. DEF system again, dealership didn't know how to fix it. They called Nissan to check Def injector, charge batteries and test again. Those are fine but still has the code. Nissan told them to replace the Intake and Outtake box sensors and the SCR catalyst for the cost of just over $10,000. MIND BLOWN!!! When the manufacturer says to just start replacing parts and not sure if it will fix the problem gives a person major concerns about this model. I'd like to say my good friend has the same truck and has had zero issues. I must have got a Monday or Friday truck.

[@8020Media]

3 - So sorry to hear this, however we do appreciate you taking the time to leave your experience.

[@KeithAtkinson-xt3uk]

I experienced a catastrophic engine failure at 65000 miles with my 2018 5.0 Dealers words not mine. I’m currently waiting to hear if Nissan will stand behind this problem. My 60 month warranty expired 5 weeks ago. I’ve waited for a ridiculous amount of time on parts for other issues in the past. How can an auto manufacturer introduce a product here in the USA and in such a short time as in the case of the 5.0 diesel abandoned the obligation without any consequence. It seams maybe those like myself should squeak like a wheel. I’m told squeaky wheels get fixed.

[@8020Media]

K - So sorry to hear this... Thanks for sharing your experience. Keep us updated.

[@apegasus9594]

why is there suddenly low oil pressure causing the turbo bearimg oil starvation? Is there an oil pump issue if so how is this not affecting the engine bearings ??

[@8020Media]

Here is the TSB on it with more info: www.tsbsearch.com/Nissan/NTB16-097

[@joenissan]

Nissan has extended the turbo and actuator warranty to 10/150k miles. And no, Nissan has not fired any of their diesel techs. No idea where you got that from. Nissans “diesel techs” were simply specially trained Nissan techs they already employed. The CP4 pumps are the exact same on all the diesel XDs and no, they have not been problematic particularly on the XD….although the CP4 itself has been.

[@8020Media]

Joe - I misspoke when I said they fired all of them, but there are certainly less now. They aren't training any new techs on the diesels. Sorry that I spoke badly about a truck it looks like you own - we just wouldn't recommend one but then again there are few diesels being produced today that aren't plagued with problems mostly from all the emissions equipment. Proper maintenance goes a long way, but just too many people that don't understand what proper maintenance is on a diesel which is part of the problem too.

[@adamm2716]

these trucks look so cool would be great to have one thats reliable

[@8020Media]

Adam - Couldn’t agree more. There are certainly some reliable ones, but just hard to find.

[@travelinman482]

​@8020Media Again, it's the emissions equipment that problematic. Not the engine itself.

[@8020Media]

That is a part of the engine, unless deleted.

[@travelinman482]

@@8020Media No, it is not. What kind redneck/engineer are you? Lol

[@harrywalker968]

a caby is not part of an engine,, same as dpf, egr.. all ditchable, not needed..oil pressure easy fix, as is fuel pump.. @@8020Media

[@dennymartin6517]

We got a 2016 with 245,000 miles and no issues until now. But small issues.

[@8020Media]

D - Thanks for sharing your experience! We've seen some great 5.0's and yours sounds like that.

[@joegonz3864]

I'm not saying I disagree with you but sounds like you're reading an article to us. The one thing I do know to be incorrect is that you say that Nissan fired all the diesel mechanics and there is no support for the vehicles. Although this may be a concern down the road, I personally went into the local Nissan dealership near my job and spoke to the diesel mechanic about the trucks. This dealership has 2 mechanics for the diesel trucks.

[@8020Media]

Joe - When we are doing these videos, we aren't reading an article word by word. However, we do have an article on our website that we are referencing, which is content that we came up with via personal experience and research. We understand they haven't gotten rid of ALL techs, but there are certainly less now. And they aren't training any new techs on these diesels.

[@Jah18769]

Would it be smart to buy a Titan XD platinum reserve diesel if they will no longer be producing new parts for repairs after 2031

[@8020Media]

Javier - We would think so, but we can't make that decision for you. There are still quite a bit of Nissan diesel techs, but who knows how many there will be around in the near future. Keep us updated.

[@harrywalker968]

parts as in.??.. only part you need 2 of, is the fuel pump.. everything else can be ditched or fixed..

[@Jah18769]

@@harrywalker968 No, everything else cannot be ditched lol…All good though, I just went with Ford.

[@michaelgonzalez494]

They should look at what kind of diesel engine Ford, or Chevy use and go from there and not just gave up on diesel all together.

[@8020Media]

The XD as it was built likely can't handle something as big and powerful as the 6.7 Cummins that Dodge uses so it would require a lot of engineering and redesign work to get one in there, and then they are competing directly with Ford, Dodge, GM. The XD was sort of a unique in-betweener truck for people that wanted something in between a half ton and heavy duty truck. It offered a bit more performance than the half-ton 3.0L diesel Ford, Dodge, and GM were making. But somehow the combination fell short as the towing capacity on it wasn't any better than the smaller diesels or gassers in the space. To continue making diesels they would probably have to adjust strategy and spend a lot of money on R&D and I think they just determined the segment wasn't work it especially as they continue to focus on EVs.

[@nelsonjv1]

@@8020Mediait’s a HD 1500 no more no less

[@GMCJay_lly]

​@@nelsonjv1heavy half

[@mattbaird5467]

2024 and I still get my diesel worked on at a Nissan dealership and other places to buy warranty work thru the dealership

[@8020Media]

Matt - I misspoke when I said they fired all of them, but there are certainly less now. They aren't training any new techs on the diesels.

[@Hollywoodeatsordrinksit]

Now you’ve got me scared. I found a basically brand new one owner 2017 Nissan Titan diesel with 30k miles on it I was thinking about buying. Now im wondering if I should avoid it and run 🏃‍♂️ away?

[@8020Media]

Jason - Just make sure you have maintenance records. We’ve seen many reliable Titans if maintained properly. We’re here to inform and educate, not scare.

[@Hollywoodeatsordrinksit]

@@8020Media thanks for the reply. Ya maintenance records look pretty good.

[@dbel723333]

Was that truck you saw in St George Utah ?

[@Hollywoodeatsordrinksit]

@@dbel723333 no it wasn’t

[@Hollywoodeatsordrinksit]

@@Wontreplyeverdontbother have you owned one? I didn’t buy one yet. Still looking at them though.

[@dudestuff1557]

I believe that Nissan put the Cummins in the Titan before the other half ton diesels came out. It was marketed as a 5/8 ton truck. The 5.0 Cummins was one of three motors that Cummins teamed up with CARB to develop for lower emissions and higher fuel economy in vehicles. My dad has a Nissan Cummins and loves it. The CP 4.2 is problematic in all situations bc it was designed for the higher lubricity diesel in Europe but has problems with the dryer fuel in the US. Run a lubricant in with the fuel like Amsoil or Hot Shots in every tank and there’s hardly a problem. The 4.2 is the reason why disaster prevention kits exist for the 6.7 PS, why ram went back to the CP3 and GM switched to the Denso system which is designed similar to a CP3.

[@8020Media]

Thanks for the contribution - great information.

[@enterBJ40]

Sorry but diesel lubricate in Europe is probably lower than EEUU spec diesel. It really has very low amount of sulfur. That why companies like Toyota had some problems with their D4D injection system when was launched in Land Cruiser Prados and Hilux. That premature wearing never happened in countries with more relaxed sulfur content rules.

[@dudestuff1557]

@@enterBJ40 I’m trying to understand what you’re saying, I’m not familiar with the acronym EEUU. What does that mean? Are you saying that Europe has the same or lower amounts of sulfur than the US in their diesel?

[@enterBJ40]

Hi. Sorry for not been clear enough. EEUU mean U.S where I live. Sulfur content in European diesel is lower than U.S specs. That could explain why those engines that are plagued with tons of problems related to fuel system are practically no existing I countries where there's not much regulation about Sulfur content. The more modern is the engine the tighter the tolerances in components, including fuel systems. Hence the importance of lubricity of fuel

[@dudestuff1557]

@@enterBJ40 no problem, it sounds like we are talking about the same thing. 👍🏻 Hot Shot’s Secret has come out along with other companies stating how the US fuel has less lubricity than the Euro fuel. Can’t go wrong with good additives!

[@AngelGdo]

Great info! Audio isn't great

[@8020Media]

Angel - Thanks for the feedback! Since this video we have upped our audio quality and hope this effort has been seen.

[@cowboy19750]

Well I have the 2016 XD titan Cummins zero issues over 100k plus miles still stock I keep up with regular maintenance and I like the truck it's my daily driver

[@8020Media]

Cowboy - Thanks for sharing your feedback! This will definitely help future viewers.

[@cowboy19750]

@@8020Media no problem ik this is an old video but I figured If someone went back to watch this or new views maybe Wondering cause the price of the titan it's probably the cheapest diesel to buy right now, the only issues I have really had is the radio system is not the best I'm and I don't mean the sound quality cause the quality is good but the radio unit itself sometimes has various problems with making weird noises or only sending sound to one or two speakers, now it doesn't do this all the time just sometimes and I looked it up and almost every other titan out there has had the same issues with the radio, and mechanical wise I have done only one thing to after market which is an oil filter bypass so technically to filters which helps keep the oil life longer. other than that no major changes or repairs have been done to the truck.

[@madnigerian]

​@@cowboy19750 been wanting to get one. What regular maintenance do u do. I want to stay away from 2016 but trying to find out if a tune will help with mpg

[@bicepusmaximus]

Do you own one of these engines/trucks? Guessing you’re just going off what you read online.

[@8020Media]

Bicep - We do not own one personally. However, we have been creating automotive content for over a decade now. Therefore, we feel rather confident with the information we have gathered from many sources (online, in person, etc.) over the years. Do you own one? If so, do you mind sharing your experience with it?

[@Reavispade]

I own one. Its an awesome truck, and frankly is bad mouthed by people with lack of understanding. Cummins, aisim, American Axle Manufacturing, Bilstein, Rockford Fosgate...all stock options, and the 0 gravity NASA designed seats, are unreal for long hauls. The only dilemma is with a 6" lift 35x20 rims and tires....it needs a city block to back into a parking spot lol 😂😂😂

[@SupramanTRD]

@@Reavispadeseems like a good tradeoff. A lot of people bash Nissan, but the reality is that a Frontier is as reliable as a Tacoma, and the Titan is as reliable as a Tundra. And that was before they had a Cummins. It just makes it that much better along with the aisin.

[@mariosstealth]

I have a 19 xd have 96k miles and 0 issues. I tow lots of cars.

[@8020Media]

M - Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@nal431]

Good video but not all that accurate… Nissan dealerships here in KY still have diesel mechanics available to work on the XD.

[@8020Media]

Thanks for pointing this out - I did some more digging and it sounds like there are still a few around since there is still warranty on some of the XD's but that they are being phased out and likely won't be many left afterwards.

[@paulmcmillan383]

After working at a Nissan dealership for a number of years, technicians were sent to schools hosted by Nissan to teach them the new stuff. I would venture to say there are still a large number of Cummins trained Nissan techs out there. Now as time goes the number will decrease, but Nissan didn't "fire" all the techs because they discontinued the line. @@8020Media

[@ericwisniewski5651]

I own titan 5.0 Cummins I trailed a ford explorer when I drove it I didn’t know I had a load Truck had no sag I read titan xo sv Cummins frame is supposed to be between 1500 truck and 2500 frame I drive his truck like old man So I accelerated slow I’m a 15 year military truck driver drove everything I’m 15 year civilian truck driver Military mechanic Civilian KZbin mechanic I got 2019 I’m feel she’s a diamond Just needs love 2019 Xd sv 4x4 I will try to see if can put Allison transmission into it

[@8020Media]

E - Thanks for your service! Also, thanks for taking the time to share your experience and insights!

[@wolvesbrigade1700]

Why would dailying a diesel Be a bad idea, and what are some work arounds? Would Tuning it, delete some stuff make it more fun. Thinking about making something for off-road/daily driver.

[@8020Media]

Dailying a diesel isn't a problem at all. Tuning and some basic bolt on mods would certainly bring it to life a bit more. Building it for off road is more about suspension and wheel/tire setups but extra power never hurts

[@GMCJay_lly]

Daily driving a modern diesel IS usually an issue for people because the engine does not get enough time to reach operating temperature with the short trips being driven. Especially not good for the aftertreatment systems...

[@vee950]

With those trucks just d delete all those emissions stuff and there bullet proof this problem is not different than any other diesels I've done this on mines egr,def and dpf delete. No matter the diesel vehicle they all suffer the same issues and by all means filter and fluid change is a must wirh diesels people ignore this

[@8020Media]

V - We can't recommend this, but you are correct.

[@David-oj3il]

Fired their Diesel mechanics? Completely not true. Where did you get that information. Here in my city, the diesel mechanics are still available.

[@8020Media]

David - Thanks for pointing this out - It sounds like there are still a few around since there is still warranty on some of the XD's but that they are being phased out and likely won't be many left afterwards.

[@user-bd8je6cb9z]

Industry standard ❤

[@8020Media]

W - What?

[@johnparsons322]

So if you delete it, it sounds like it would solve a bunch of these problems.

[@johnparsons322]

And add a fass pump oil system or an equivalent?

[@8020Media]

J - Pretty much, but we can't recommend doing it.

[@Casca-su3ty]

So am confused after seeing this video am not even going close to this truck seems am always watching videos be efore i buy a truck now been looking for a year i still dont have a truck because of watching this videos.

[@8020Media]

Casca - We don't make these videos to scare. We make them strictly to inform.

[@rolexmd69]

All engines are ticking time bombs period. No production truck is a bad product maybe minus the 6.4 powerstroke but even those CAN be made reliable with $$$.

[@8020Media]

That's maybe a bit pessimistic, there are engines that are inherently more reliable than others. Sure, money can go a long way in making something reliable but one of the biggest things is also maintenance and naturally, how well the engine and all of its additional components were built from the factory. None of them are a "bad" product, otherwise they wouldn't have been put on the market but that doesn't mean that they all are created equal either.

[@rolexmd69]

@@8020Media agree and disagree but that the beauty of all of this. As a former owner of every Ford diesel made after the non powerstroke 7.3 I can say without a doubt that the 6.0 and the 6.4 are bad products although it is our corrupt governments fault with all the emissions bottlenecks that kill these motors. I bought a 2008 6.4 government truck at auction that had zero emissions and it was one of the most reliable diesel engines I’ve ever owned. I was being pessimistic earlier I just agree with George Carlin when he questioned how we can put a man on the moon but Cadillac can’t make a bumper stay on…. I just feel it’s all kind of a scam. As a swiss watchmaker by trade I know with 100% certainty that ANY of these manufacturers could make their automobiles more reliable but you can’t keep making profits that way. That’s the problem.

[@gordowg1wg145]

@@rolexmd69 I would disagree about the emissions, but agree that the manufacturers could certainly build better products, often for just a few dollars at production level. I would even suggest people would pay a little more (they're plenty paying massive premiums for some trucks, because of 'unavailability' - even to the dealers whose yards are full of stock they can't shift) to KNOW they're getting a reliable product that isn't going to cost them down the line -

[@stevenpeterson7234]

​@@gordowg1wg145 The emissions are what kills diesels engines period. I know this, I've seen this and I've seen how the diesel engine works with out emissions and its day and night

[@gordowg1wg145]

@@stevenpeterson7234 Be interested to see your data on that, seriously, especially what you mean by "kill".

[@jameswright7923]

You can have any diesel engine last a long time. It’s just this one is going to be very expensive to get there. also the class action lawsuit that was launched in march of 2023 against Nissan and Cummins. Reason was the cp4 fuel pump produced metal shavings and after time killed your injection system It average cost was 16,000 US dollars Nissan wouldn’t recap or warranty it other would Cummins. Hence the law suit. Reason was they knew that it was faulty to begin with but still put it in. It needs a fuel that has more lubricants in it than USA diesel. Made for Europe market. This has been proven so you might see a recall at there expense. Nissan and Cummins will definitely loose this one.

[@8020Media]

James - Couldn't agree more. Thanks for sharing this insight.

[@jaredsisneros5276]

glad i saw this I was lookng at a 2018 xd with 81k for 29k. I think ill stay away.

[@8020Media]

Jared - Our videos aren't made to scare, strictly to inform.

[@sethscott7629]

This is a trash review. Love this truck and the 5.0 Cummins

[@8020Media]

Seth - Please explain how this is a trash review. We’d love to hear it. Because it’s completely unbiased?

[@finstarusa]

@@8020Media I think he did not like the final comments "the combination of 5.0 Cummins inside the Titan XD makes for an unreliable combination". :). Btw, I am looking to get a 2017 XD with the Cummins engine w/ only 12k miles. Good information you gave although I feel a little spooked now. I still have not decided.

[@8020Media]

F - We don't make these videos to scare, strictly to inform. We've seen many good XD Cummins.

[@danielschlabach4875]

My engine just blew up on my 2016 Nissan Titan XD Diesel at 170k miles, They should last Longer, Just A Bummer New Engine Cost 23K , No Way I Will Can So It, wouldn't make Sense!

[@8020Media]

Daniel - So sorry to hear this... What happened?

[@davidracing3602]

Best mod i did for my nissan titan xd cummins was selling it. They are a ticking time bomb of problems and poor parts support. Buying a whole assembly for 1 part failure is ridiculous. Nissan shot themselves in the foot by not using cummins tuning on the engine and trying to do their own thing. I loved my titan but couldn't deal with their unreliability.

[@8020Media]

David - Thanks for sharing your experience. Do you mind elaborating on what issues you came across? This would help other viewers in the future.

[@christopherlacasse7798]

Tony Romo out here doing KZbin reviews? Sad days my friends. Sad days.

[@8020Media]

Christopher - Thanks, I think we'll take that as a compliment?

[@christopherlacasse7798]

@@8020Media yeah buddy. Just poking fun at the uncanny resemblance. Stay golden.

[@CLUBCARLIFTED666]

My 16 5.0. Had turbo replaced 37k now it has 60k actuator got stuck and. Blew the motor. Knocking bad blow by and my warranty is giving me the run around cummins and nissan need to fix this junk they engineered

[@8020Media]

Club - So sorry to hear this. However, thank you for sharing your experience. It will help future viewers.

[@melvinarias136]

My dad truck too 2016 with 42k now My father did not use the truck for three weeks, it broke down because it made a gel with the diesel, now we have to change the pump and sensor

[@n3wbzero2014]

@@melvinarias136 that’s not a manufacturer fault then it’s bad fuel or it should’ve been drained.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Renault products. No thanks...

[@8020Media]

Rich - Everyone has their own opinion. Have you had one?

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@@8020Media got burned by the Titan XD diesel. Never again.

[@8020Media]

Got it. Sorry to hear this. What happened if you don't mind me asking?

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@@8020Media the emissions system, EGR, etc. Then the turbo imploded...

[@8020Media]

Rich - Sounds like some bad luck..

[@cheliospanama9786]

For the algorithm 🤩🥰💪🫶😁😎👌🥸🤓🥳🫡

[@8020Media]

Chelios - We appreciate the support!

[@JBidensucks]

4:58 Jesus Christ....I'm not even 5 mins in and minds made up . Not a chance I'm buying one of these POS trucks. Was considering one dues too there lower price compared to a Duramax or Power stroke truck but crist these sound like just total crap . No wonder they were discontinued 😕🤯

[@8020Media]

J - We don't make these videos to scare, strictly to inform. With that said, we have seen many of these be very reliable, but have also heard many disasters.