Titanium vs. Stainless Steel Cookware for Camping & Backpacking - Which is Better?

And this video I'll be going over the difference between titanium and stainless steel cookware use for camping and backpacking.
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[@pwessie]

Awesome video, man. Really like your down to earth yet charismatic personality. Great content. Subbed!

[@IrishZombieNation]

Much appreciated!

[@BxrHavik]

7:37 I like how he told us its our choice and just giving us the information to make that decision on our own based on what our needs are personally. Thumbs up'd the video (:

[@IrishZombieNation]

Much appreciated, and thanks for watching!

[@shovelhead8]

I got both but I look for deals on titanium. I have surplus and vintage cookware as well. Thank you for the video. Leo

[@rumsin300]

Good educational video! I myself use both MSR SS cookware set for backpacking and Toaks mug. Both are extremely durable. Just a personal choice. Thanks,

[@IrishZombieNation]

Thanks for watching!

[@venasm]

some of the few things additional things i personally like about each- 1- stainless steel is so shiny and bright and so it's tempting and appetizing to eat from. you feel like it's "quality" because it is heavier (even though that's an illusion) and there are different finishes - shiny/matte etc. the feel is so soft and smooth u kind of appreciate it and love it. it's been tried and tested always so you feel like you can trust it and it's familiar. you'd probably find alot more variety and availability too. 2- titanium has that really awesome feel of plastic- i mean it's clean/clear and soft when you eat. you don't feel like the spoon is hitting your teeth or that it's "steely". it has the neutral and softish feel of plastic (the good kind). i feel like i'm eating from plastic except it's made of steel which is such a win. the lightness seriously affects me when you have a big pan or pot and you fill it with water, esp if it's compared to a heavy duty SS. and honestly i actually like that the food cools off faster with titanium personally. in winter it's probably better with SS while ur sipping and not actually hungry, but more like warming up. but in regular temps, i hate when i boil water and make ramen, etc and i'm hungry af and just slowly sipping while burnig my tongue hoping it's gotten to an acceptable temperature after spending 30 minutes deluding myself constantly that it's cooled off. it's the worst. feels like titanium is a good investment if you really are in love with a specific type of cooking pot/pan you know you will carry with you always and is the exact dimensions and style you look for. i don't think it matters much when the SS cookware you're carrying is relatively small. (cups, etc) i've gone with SS. mainly. buti have a confession to make. i was cooking all at home. none of them happened while hiking or camping XD

[@ArcticGator]

one thing i discovered since the last time i posted this is that titanium likes to warp when you heat it up in very cold weather, especially once you empty the contents. Out of everything i prefer cast iron but its stupid heavy so i only use it car camping lol

[@snowpuppy77]

Very good illumination of the difference. Enjoyed the video. I have a Light my Fire titanium spork and it is very nice. Thin, strong, light. I am thinking about replacing my GSI cup with a titanium version. But like you said it would not make that much of a difference. My GSI cup really gets it done so hard to justify. I use my GSI cup in conjunction with a Kupilka cup. Just recently got the larger 12 oz version of the Kupilka cup. Holds heat better than stainless, can use to warm hands even when coffee poured hot, and can set it in snow with less thermal impact. Also allows me to drink and heat water or cook at same time. I tie my Kupilka to the outside of my pack. Looks good with a nice outdoor aesthetic and light.

[@IrishZombieNation]

I need to try one of those Kupilka cups out. They look nice. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching!

[@frank7967]

Great video man!

[@einzigkeit7216]

Every points are spot on!!

[@IrishZombieNation]

Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@WildCampingIreland]

Greetings from Ireland :-) Great video Pal !! I'm switching to titanium so that was very helpful . Cheers

[@IrishZombieNation]

Excellent! Thanks for watching!

[@NGMonocrom]

Hey, thanks for the inspiration. That Toak's 850ml titanium pot looks like just what I needed for a new cook kit. (Volume and the design of the folding handles.) Not a big fan of insulated handles, but can live with it. Well, turns out Toak's discontinued that particular pot. No one seems to have it in stock. Found a seller in China on eBay with a supply of the Toak's 800ml pot. Same pot as their 850ml version but without insulated handles and, obviously, 50ml less volume. But when it comes to the 800-850 range in milliliters, 50ml has no pragmatic difference. So, all good. Thanks again.

[@IrishZombieNation]

Glad to have helped out. Thanks for watching!

[@ArcticGator]

i prefer stainless steel over titanium, simply because the titanium you get from most chinese manufacturers use different grades of titanium that could have impurities in it as well as most that i have seen have some kind of coating and who knows what that is doing to your food or water as you boil and cook it in the pan.

[@r_-fy3ll]

This is my point 👌🏻 well said arctic gator

[@benwilkinson45]

Thanks for the video! I prefer titanium for just boiling water, if doing any real cooking stainless steel or anodized aluminum is much better (higher heat conductivity, less hot spots). The Evernew titanium .9L pot is my all time favorite if I had to choose just one.

[@IrishZombieNation]

Good choice. Thanks for watching Ben!

[@2210biggs]

Good stuff man I just bought the Stanley cook set before I saw this video an now I want to try the titanium

[@IrishZombieNation]

Thanks for watching! There's a wide variety of titanium manufacturers for camp cook sets out there, the one I use is Toaks. Been using them for many years with no issues at all.

[@AWoodlandAdventure]

Thats what I do, just buy something and then find I want something else. Its never ending! Lol

[@davebaker7343]

I wish I could have a beer with this dude.

[@IrishZombieNation]

Appreciate the compliment!

[@Tomtomoutdoors]

ive recently went to a toask 750 and 450 for my cook set along with cozies . i like em the only stanless steel i cary now is maybe a dog foodbowl ive been using a plate and if i take it my stanly french press for easy to fix coffe on my stove

[@IrishZombieNation]

Sounds like a great step up.

[@MrWillyp00]

There is much more affordable titanium cookware arriving on the slow boat from China. Tomshoo and Lixada are two names that come to mind. Bangood, GearBest, and Ebay are well known sources. There are mystery brands which are even cheaper. Recently bought 900ml pot/ cup with hanging bale for $25.

[@Hertacles]

willy p00 they’re heavier than brands like toaks, snow peak, and Virgo though.

[@jayextarys8616]

I bought a Toaks 450ml and Toaks 750ml... I love them but it takes more time to boil water... but it's lightweight and more resistant than SS, Great video, thanks!

[@IrishZombieNation]

Thanks for watching!

[@spicecrop]

Titanium is cool and light but anodized aluminum is a much better conductor of heat. That copper bottom pan you have is a good choice. Copper is best , but very expensive and heavy. Aluminum is about as good as it gets for light weight and conducting heat and holding heat longer. But for just boiling water Ti is good.

[@jillmondt5398]

That was a good idea to make a cozy.

[@IrishZombieNation]

Thanks!

[@GreySpak.Games.Official]

Best review about the issue

[@IrishZombieNation]

I greatly appreciate that, and thanks for watching!

[@JunkyardFox]

Good stuff Leo! I’m more of a stainless steel guy because I get cheap. I don’t mind dropping cash on a knife or Star Wars figure lol but when it comes to cookware..lol I don’t think I’ve ever owned titanium. Plus I enjoy car camping since I can bring more food and cast iron pans etc so weight isn’t as issue.

[@IrishZombieNation]

I've been looking into cast iron pans a lot recently. I'm starting to get this bug to go old school, more Frontier rustic. I think it's the influence of Red Dead Redemption 2. LOL

[@avatarakhdiat]

Great Video, Awesome... 👍👍

[@IrishZombieNation]

Thanks for watching!

[@chesterogilvie1393]

For the frequent backpacker and health cautious types, titanium cookware tends to be 99% pure titanium with that last 1% containing trace elements. Which means next to food grade glass it’s the least likely to leech heavy metals that can cause neurological diseases. Also my understanding is that titanium inhibits bacterial growth so if you’re a through hiker that doesn’t clean their pot well this may be a better option along with the weight savings. Also add that when it comes to titanium fry pans, heat dispersion is an issue and thus hot spot and sticking is a frequent problem. But if I understand things that can mostly be mitigated with seasoning the pan like cast iron and using a burner with a wider heat deflector much like the big GSI Glacial stove. Of course sacrificing boil times in pots but you gotta figure your balance

[@MrMann703]

Good video. I'm definitely a titanium fan, cost difference sucks but after searching I found that boundless voyage branded Ti products were substantially cheaper, still more than SS lol, also the lid design with boundless voyage actually stays on. My collection of Boundless Voyage so far, a little bit added when I can, is the Dragon Horse folding stove, collapsible gasifier stove, two coffee cups, rectangle grill, and arriving today their canteen mess kit. A little bit here and there and eventually it begins to grow, I want to get a couple more things in time but I almost got my backpacking cook system finished. I will also add that the Dragon Horse folding stove was a $110 Canadian which was still cheaper than a couple of the well known brand folding stoves SS versions.

[@IrishZombieNation]

Sounds like a great setup. Thanks for the comment and info.

[@pedroclaro7822]

I’m saddened that most people don’t know of the picogrill, especially for how much lighter is is than any other stove out there. The only thing that trumps them is the Toaks gasifier stove, for me, because I stealth camp and the smoke is something I don’t like. But still the picogrill 85 is literally always in my backpack

[@peetsnort]

I am testing solid copper vessel to boil water and its proving to be 25 percent quicker. The soot also doesnt adhere like steel. Totally worth the weight. Everything else seems stupid now. I have a very lightweight double sided drinking cup. Titanium has hot spots. I am 64 and know what's worth it

[@indianprepper2478]

Good video , I will go with stainless steel . Not for $ cost but for "HEAT"

[@Lapeerphoto]

- Motorcycle camping. I go Lite, but not ultra-lite. - Reflectix rules ! - The only titanium I own is that long spoon. :) (A must have w/Stanley set) - I don't weight gear. Just try to go minimalist. My wife is less than 150#, so when I solo-cy camp (no passenger) I keep my gear load out to around 100lbs, depending on how many days. - The wife will tent/car camp, but not dispersed camp. So when CY-camping I'm solo. The backpacking info helps with me look at me solo camping gear. But when we tent camp, we have the bike trailer, so load limits are no issue. -Thanks for the review - more justification not to dump cash into a bunch of Titanium gear since I have a garage full of SS and aluminum camping cook gear. :D -Happy trails - ride safe!!!

[@IrishZombieNation]

Much appreciated! Keep the rubber side down!

[@silvanigra]

Thanks for confirming my thoughts. I chose to go with stainless steel and stuck with it. The extra weight is really not that significant.

[@IrishZombieNation]

Right on. Thanks for watching!

[@gplustree]

I'm gonna go with hard anodized aluminum for the same reasons, but I like to hike my crap in with me

[@craigbetts1586]

good video, yes if can afford titanium its the way to go but good old ss will never let you down, I used the Stanley pot for years along with other ss cookware but did break down and bought a titanium 750ml cup with lid and love it but for someone just starting out the $5 wally cup works good too....if your car camping who cares then lol till the next take care

[@IrishZombieNation]

I agree with everything you said. Something about car camping to, bring out the heavier stuff the tried-and-true and not super lightweight with a specific use it's just satisfying. Thanks for watching.

[@jashserfus6870]

My 1.1 litre Rocket brand stainless pot (identical to MSR Stowaway) at 287 grams is about 180ish grams heavier than a similar sized Toaks pot but 1/3 the cost and has a lockable lid. My 3 day winter hike pack weight is 19kg (41.88lbs), and with 8kg of that being water as Australia has little to no surface water out in the wilderness. Two or three sips of water and that 186 grams is gone. Plus stainless just looks better. If my pot was made in titanium I’d buy one tomorrow, but none of the designs available suit me.

[@FreeSoul.7]

very good video . thanks . i just have a question .In which of these two, the water boils faster?

[@IrishZombieNation]

I've never done a test on that before, but I believe titanium boils faster due to having thinner walls. Don't take my word for it though.

[@FreeSoul.7]

@@IrishZombieNation Thanks . don t worry :-) i wil check it out .

[@gailwind4168]

Nice video!

[@IrishZombieNation]

Thanks for watching!

[@tinymission7821]

I’m giving a thumbs up just because you gave me the option of up or down…nobody does that. Oh, and really good information delivered quickly too.

[@IrishZombieNation]

Much appreciated, thanks for watching!

[@SantoMuerte187]

Awesome video brother, stainless all the way!!!

[@IrishZombieNation]

Stainless rocks!

[@EntryLvloutdoors]

Does titanium have the same issues as non stick pans if scratched?

[@IrishZombieNation]

No, not at all.

[@EntryLvloutdoors]

@@IrishZombieNation thatd be the main reason for me making the switch. Slight less non stick surface with great durability than the cheap crap

[@PatrickDustman]

Great video, very informative and helpful. Thank you for sharing your experience. SurvivalAustria

[@IrishZombieNation]

Appreciate your time watching and commenting. Sláinte!

[@skepticalV2]

Idk why. But titanium is cheaper than stainless steel from where I live. Maybe the titanium of the product I saw is just the coating. Now that scares me. Probably gonna get stainless steel for a longer time use, indoors and outdoors. 😅

[@billyjoedenny]

agree my friend, but .......the titanium can be tuff clean up after cooking ...big con billy joe

[@IrishZombieNation]

Thanks for watching!

[@chuckh1794]

GOOD 'VS.' VIDEO! 👍

[@IrishZombieNation]

Thanks!

[@alfonsocasillas7290]

I understand I hate washing dishes great video

[@IrishZombieNation]

Dishes suck! I told my oldest daughter when she moves out of the house she needs to buy us a dishwasher to replace her doing that chore, because I'm not doing dishes.

[@alfonsocasillas7290]

Irish Zombie Nation In my house I put them in the kitchen then the next day they’re clean it’s a miracle

[@harlemsfinest]

If titanium cools down quicker, wouldn't it also heat up quicker? Could come in handy I think

[@IrishZombieNation]

That it does. Thanks for watching!

[@MaNi-cn7to]

850? isnt that toak 750? thx for video.

[@IrishZombieNation]

The one I'm using is the 850ml. Thanks for watching!

[@bojanbarisic3378]

Man, you talking so fast! 😯

[@IrishZombieNation]

I do that for two reasons. The first is that I just talk that fast naturally. The second is because if I was slower the video would be a lot longer and more boring. Appreciate you watching oh, and thanks for the comment.

[@muhsinbustillo]

Even better, saved me 10 seconds of adjusting playback speed like I have to do for everyone else

[@savedfaves]

Amazon is full of titanium cups that don't look like titanium.

[@Wingman115]

👍🏻👊🏻

[@IrishZombieNation]

What up JON!? 😂 Thanks for watching my friend!

[@riskinhos]

titanum has a really low heat transfer index

[@IrishZombieNation]

Yeah, I said that in the video I believe. Stainless steel wins in that category. Thanks for watching!

[@riskinhos]

@@IrishZombieNation no. it doesn't. copper does. then aluminium. than iron. steel is very far behind those.

[@IrishZombieNation]

@@riskinhos this video is comparing titanium and stainless steel, not copper, aluminum, or anything else.

[@journeyofbear6423]

Name Tag funny!

[@IrishZombieNation]

Thanks!

[@mr.morris2907]

A crocodile cannot stick its tongue out.

[@IrishZombieNation]

Nor could my ex-girlfriend. That's why she's an ex.

[@rogerkomula8057]

Just ordered a Toaks 2.0 liter pot. It was $75, but I'm 60 next year and it takes an entire pound off my gear. Btw, didn't even think of making a giant koozie until I saw your video. Thanks.

[@IrishZombieNation]

Glad to have helped out. Thanks for watching!

[@carbajalf9835]

You couldn't afford Titanium because I see you had to save up for the Dark Timber aye😉. Peter Kohler is the man

[@IrishZombieNation]

You caught me! 😂 I've been the proud owner of two Dark Timber knives and one is my EDC. Peter makes excellent blades without a doubt. If you want a good laugh check out my review of the Honey Badger. Thanks for watching!

[@carbajalf9835]

@@IrishZombieNation haha yea I'm in the group and own a couple just not a custom. You have to be an "Elite Kiss Ass" to own a custom. Great video, I just orders some of that titanium you have.

[@r_-fy3ll]

It's titanium alloy not pure titanium

[@IrishZombieNation]

What's your point?

[@r_-fy3ll]

Titanium alloy is shit 😂

[@IrishZombieNation]

Compared to what?

[@osmosis1st]

Have you sniffed some Columbian marching powder by chance😤🤯

[@IrishZombieNation]

Not lately. Thanks for watching!

[@marB84]

No offense... But it shows you drink coffee all day! 😂 Otherwise good vid.

[@IrishZombieNation]

You are correct. I do drink coffee all day. Love the bean juice! Thanks for watching!

[@jarikinnunen1718]

I have some knock off stainless cup. They get grey golour in heat and handles ripped off caused of light use. I use metal plates and cups and so on every day. Hopefully my two titanium cup orders will come and not stay in the container somewhere in Biden`s trap. Let`s go Brandon!

[@TheToiletAssassin]

Stop YELLING !!

[@IrishZombieNation]

I'm NOT!! Turn your volume DOWN!!

[@jxpat]

Speaking entirely too fast. Reduce video speed to 0.75 or 0.50 for best viewing.

[@IrishZombieNation]

I can make the video long and boring, or I can get to the point. Just think faster. Thanks for watching!

[@MrEcotrees]

Your not irish

[@IrishZombieNation]

How did you determine my heritage from this video?