Titans Season 3 - AN UNHOLY RANT

[@walkingenmity]

Welllllllll Tim's discovery of Dick and Bruce's identity is comicbook compliant. Not saying it makes sense the way they did it here, but it's not out of nowhere. I just don't understand why they're accurate with things that don't matter but screw up all the important stuff. But yeah they ruined Red Hood's origin and motivation. Bruce killing Joker and NOT taking on another Robin literally eliminates his entire purpose and motivation. He's not a coward. He of all people would not be a drug addict. He wouldn't be motivated by solely selfish reasons. I just....ugh. It's awful.

[@jonbrewer297]

They should've had Dick kill the Joker, which did happen in the comics. This Dick wouldn't even be bothered by it, unlike the comics. Hey, remember how they said they weren't going to kill Jason if the poll said not to? Misato saying "So, that was also a lie." What's weird is, season 4, Jason is alive again and mentoring Tim. Which is very much a New 52 thing, because Scott Lobdell was writing both Red Hood and the Outlaws and Teen Titans, but that involves getting into Scott Lobdell's personal life and how he was Dan Didio's pet.

[@sofialu226]

I was going to coment that too, thats basically what happened in the comic, Tim was there when Dick's parent died and did make the same correlation. Like you said, debatable how this kid who saw the Flying Grayson's act once was able to do the connection and no one else did, but is what it is I gues hahaha

[@sofialu226]

@@jonbrewer297 Oh yeah, I rememebr that, even the Nightwing Solo book had a full Issue about Dick being unhinge because of that. It was kinda f*cke up how much he spiralled down because of the kill and one of the reasons he felt that bad was feeling he had he failed Bruce... 💀 I understand the trauma of actually killing with your own hands, but one of the reason being Batman's disappointment was another level.

[@thatskao]

I was about to say this

[@sgcastle8389]

We gotta stop calling that Jason Todd Red hood, he wasn't. He is a sloppy Arkham knight

[@ReviewKingMB]

Agree completely

[@Tigerheiress]

i love this jason todd i feel like im the only one who does

[@roberthanson3026]

Agreed

[@DioStandProud]

Don't insult the Arkham Knight like this The only problem with AK was the false marketing and how OBVIOUS it was.

[@sgcastle8389]

@@DioStandProud that's why i said "a qloppy Arkham knight" this punk can't even be the AK properly

[@ricops_hicops2088]

This is really sad to me because the actors seem talented but this plot is dish water

[@Tigerheiress]

no youre right. the acting is fire its just like the pacing and editing and like costumes are terrible 😭😭😭

[@paulylopes6762]

@@Tigerheiress nahhhh cap on the costumes. The costumes are some of the best in live action superhero history.

[@Tigerheiress]

@@paulylopes6762 idk some of them look horrible im sorry doves in particular looks so bad to me😭 the robin costumes are solid, nightwings is good, red hood is really good, starfires s3 is goodish idk. some of them look like party city costumes

[@rarescevei8268]

​@@TigerheiressSome are goofy but most are amazing

[@MisterMii601]

Every time I watch just a small clip of this show, I’m reminded of the original animated Teen Titans is the GOAT

[@ReviewKingMB]

Makes sense

[@kaior1]

1. Not letting beast boy transformer into other animals. 2. having bat man be a psycho path. 3. star fire doesn't even act like the character . 4. No cyborg. 5. terrible cgi 6. too edgy for no reason.

[@ReviewKingMB]

Agree with all

[@EclipseHedgehog]

considering there's terrible cgi listed here its probably a blessing that cyborg ain't even in this show. also some terrible camera work on fightscenes, nightwings vs slade for example. so many quick cuts its almost impossible to keep up with what they're doing. shame too because robin/nightwing and deathstroke actually look pretty good here.

[@ReviewKingMB]

@EclipseHedgehog exactly, costumes were decent but effects were not

[@EclipseHedgehog]

@ReviewKingMB I'm assuming the actors couldn't throw fake hits or the costumes were clumsy to work in so to make up for it they did quick cuts, sad thing is they went overboard

[@thomasarnoldcoe6527]

7. Classic characters underdeveloped and badly written 8. Motivations that make no sense 9. Actions have no consequences 10. No continuity 11. Leaning too heavily into Batman Lore when you have endless classic Titans characters 12. Blowing through classic villains giving them no screen time 13. Terrible dialogue 14. Death seems to be optional 15. Unearned resolutions 16. Relationships that come and go, not really meaning anything

[@Profess84]

This felt like the producer's hired 30 different writers who didn't have any knowledge of the comic's and said go for it. How to you have a super powered team up show with Scarecrow as the main villain? They teased Blackfire as a Villian at the end of season 2, but did nothing with her in season 3. Arrow did the Lazarus pit better that this.

[@ReviewKingMB]

Yes! Scarecrow as the main villain made zero sense. I kept waiting for Red Hood to reveal he was just using him and kill him but never happened

[@kaiserreichempireofohio834]

Scarecrow could have worked, here’s a idea pitch: In this timeline Scarecrow could be a new villain, with Jonathan Crane still being a respected psychologist with a darker nature not yet publicly known at this point, who’s able to infiltrate the personal lives of the Titans(presumably through Jason)and manipulates them against each other, driving a wedge in the team that other villains and crooks increasingly exploit, leading to the team getting their act together and trying to find the root of the problem, and when Crane is found out for what he’s been doing, he goes full on Scarecrow on the Titans pulling on his mask and releasing his Fear Toxin for the first time, allowing him to escape and go underground as the team are overwhelmed with their fears which they all eventually have to try and overcome said fears as a team. Meanwhile Scarecrow is plotting to douse the whole city with an even more advanced version of the Toxin, which at the end of the season the Titans, who have now mostly worked out their fears with their teammates, go to stop Crane, who soon after douses the team again with the Toxin, but this time the team overcomes the fears from it, stopping Crane and his scheme, putting him behind bars. This would be more of a mental battle for the super powered heros, showing that while they may have power in the physical world, they still have psychological fears just like anyone else, and it affects them just the same, humanizing them. Fighting and overcoming their fears would be a compelling story(and not jack up the cgi costs too much). TL;DR Scarecrow’s manipulation skills could force the team to work out their internal drama, his Fear Toxin would force them to work together to fight their fears in group therapy to beat Crane.

[@summer93i]

HOW DO THEY TAKE SOMETHING SO GOOD AND MAKE IT SO WRONG?? THERE WAS A GOD DAMN COMIC... 😭😭😭🤧😔🚪🚶‍♀️👜 all they had to do was follow the story....

[@Profess84]

@@summer93i Because Hollywood wants to put there imprint on it, which is why they take very little from the souce material.

[@grandcanyon-fu9zt]

Arrow season 4 at least had consistency with storyline and the villain despite how bad it was

[@Black_bird7_7]

Bruce trying to unalive himself was SO random. Like where did that even come from? Why?

[@Tigerheiress]

why

[@marocat4749]

Why indeed. He is the man who would never, cant you just be broken and go off to finfd himselfagain coming back way later, not unalive.

[@phongvu-ju5rm]

It is offensively bad, like it insults my intelligence. Garfield is the only character that I like, seriously though I would watch a season where we focus solely on him. Dick is a moron. Rachel and Conner are literally plot device. Kori is also a moron. Hank, Dawn, Donna have nothing to contribute. Jason went from dead to resurrected to immediately irredeemably evil. Nothing make sense.

[@ReviewKingMB]

Agreed

[@Tigerheiress]

real. gar is good. i cant take rachel serious with the bad cgi and her dialogue is always so embarrassingly bad. dick grayson IS NOTHING!! like the comic character or even an amazing SMART leader like the 2000s cartoon. kori i think shes funny and her acting is really really good sometimes, i just hate how theres no chemistry w her and dick and again her personality is WAY TOO OFF!! she acts like a popular mean girl in a highschool movie and dressees like that too. i hate this bruce wayne portrayal. again, way too different from the comics, and is made into a borderline supervillain in this show😭😭😭 hes also like 75 and looks like he couldn’t walk to the mailbox without risk of a hip replacement. i also just hate the personality its so damn OFF. the filters costumes WIGS and music is so cheap and distractingly BAD. do ves costume in particular takes me out of the entire show bc just comically bad. it looks homemade. f deathstroke and scarecrow sucked so bad too and were SO RUSHEF. deathstroke wasnt menacing, dark, sinister, or spine chillingly brutal at all he was just a guy w a patch. 😕 ugh they fucked this shit up fr 😭

[@samwilsoncaptainamerica233]

Honestly that whole show looked like a fan film to me

[@ReviewKingMB]

Fair

[@gooddreams8495]

I stopped a few episodes in, like there is superboy and raven so how the fuck can scarecrow and red hood threatened them. I heard season 4 is ongoing so I am going to finish season 3 so I can watch season 4 and hope it will be good.

[@KapturAmerica]

Blackfire f____ing murders Starfire's court, boyfriend, and PARENTS. And she forgives it?!?!? They give a 🐃💩 retcon child abuse/witch hunt excuse that doesn't hold up. That and almost every single thing Tim Drake does I absolutely hated. Tim is a strong contender for the show's biggest 🐴

[@summer93i]

Yh I didnt rlly get that im ngl. Same with Jason, he literally killed hank but nightwing and gar still helped him... its just not very logical

[@kylinwilliams6229]

Not gonna lie, since the beginning Hawk and Dove were the most bland characters ever if they weren’t in the show in the first place it wouldn’t make a difference

[@ReviewKingMB]

That's fair, I personally find them much more interesting than most of the other team

[@marocat4749]

@@ReviewKingMB If they had their own show and werent there to take away from maybe developing something? They dont seem to not fit else the edgy show that has everyone depressed and they dont, its too weird. Why cant the others have fun. That shows the show know to write characters have fun and doesnt. They refuse to have nightwing, be fun, why.

[@grilledseabass]

About Tim Drake finding out Batman and Robin's identities you need to take into account the comics. In the comics Tim also figured it out (when he was 9 no less) so that is actually one of the only things that make sense about this season

[@bkarjun8047]

Batman was supposed to be the most bad-ass dude, but in the season I felt like he was nice guy having daddy issue. All titans are fighting with each other. Little Robin blaming everything to Big Robin. Beast Boy is just Tiger Boy. Everything sucked.

[@diyaanpulikkal8939]

I have heard that the reason they didnt show joker/batman fully is because of some company ownership related stuff. The maximum they can show was batman from behind view.

[@phillyvoodoo]

This is true and also silly since WB is the producer of this show which owns all of the DC characters....... They never needed the Bat-embargo because they own the character and don't lease them out anymore but also because the audience is sophisticated enough to know that the movies and the shows occupy different spaces in the multiverse......

[@diablojones]

Then why even bother?

[@glitchslayerdbs_yt4599]

That ain't Red Hood that's Crimson Head

[@ReviewKingMB]

🤣

[@Weirdo-xt1bz]

Its sad to say that the WORST version of Red Hood is the only live action version we have so far...

[@ImaginaryNate]

The thing about this season is, it started off outstandingly strong. Episodes 1-3 were the best pieces of television airing at that moment, episode 4 was a little slower but still on par, and episode 5 was the best episode of the series yet. Episode 6 was good, but this is when the show started going back to its original writing formula and lacking in terms of creativity. They brought back those weird ideas that no one wants. Red Hood was portrayed so awesomely and badass in the first 5 episodes, but he was turned into a puppet for Scarecrow? Nobody wanted that, they wanted to see Red Hood be the boss, or at least realize he’s being played and gain control over Scarecrow. Not to mention, everyone wanted Blackfire as the main villain over Scarecrow like it was planned. They really dropped the ball with the second half of the season.

[@Tigerheiress]

real

[@sparrowproductions4122]

I think Curran Walters as Jason Todd is completely underrated. His portrayal of Jason is a perfect mirror to drive Dicks story and Jason’s to collide. The way his story was written wasn’t great by any means. But I feel like his character was spot on for the world that we live in now.

[@ReviewKingMB]

Fair point

[@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954]

Actually, what they did with how Tim find out their identity is 100% accurate to the Comic Books. Tim was a huge fan of the Flying Graysons and saw that Robin did a move that only Dick Grayson could pull off and put two and two together.

[@ReviewKingMB]

Fair enough

[@hardcoredoom]

Red Hood has an amazing character design in this show and good acting I will not lie but his writing is horrible. Jason just reminds me of a 13 year old edgelord telling his mum to get out of his room.

[@arielartmind606]

They screwed up everything about these characters. It's a fight for me to finish season 3. The only thing this disaster of a show gets right is Tim figuring out who Batman is. After watching more I understand why Donna comes back, same way Tim did, from crossing the bridge, what I don't get is how she got to Bruce.

[@YachiruRetsuUnohana]

This season completely sucked, the best thing about the season was Hawks being killed by dove. I marked out for that. BTW I was under the impression that Blackfire was some sort of parasite in season 2.

[@ReviewKingMB]

I thought Blackfire would be some sort of villain too

[@Dithunder]

My problems is there is no creativity not one everything they do is stupid or not what the characters would do for example Dick is a son or in my opinion the younger brother of Bruce Wayne and more light hearted and extremely athletic in comics but in show he's like he's batman without being batman the amount of insults batman gets is ridiculous in show like this is the man who puts his body on the line for a city drowning in its own arrogance.

[@e.mountain1637]

The Lazarus pit plot was totally crazy and way of cannon from how it was in Arrow.

[@crosshair9907]

Very good video Another reason why this season was god awful is because Nightwing one of the most hopeful and positive characters in DC comics poisons krypto the dog with kryptonite.

[@ReviewKingMB]

That's a great point ... I should have mentioned that

[@crosshair9907]

@@ReviewKingMB Ah it's fine if you covered all the problems with season 3 it would be a 3 hour video

[@Tigerheiress]

I KNOOOO tbh i hate this incarnation of batman and dick grayson ngl they feel way too off from the comics. also bruce is WAY TOO OLD and doesnt act like bruce at all 😭 also nightwing just does so much out of character stuff. it takes me out of the show negl

[@milestrombley1466]

If Batman killed the Joker, then what would be the point of Jason Todd coming back as Red Hood? The Joker is the reason why Jason comes back as Red Hood because he wants vengeance against Joker and Batman. Read the comics!

[@ReviewKingMB]

Excellent point

[@jonbrewer297]

Batman says he works alone, but that's why he has dozens of supporting characters who help him out. The reality is, Batman works alone comes from Batman and the Outsiders, where the basic plot is that Batman leaves the Justice League to form his own team because the UN won't let him intervene in a civil war. Oh, fun fact: Terra's brother was also one of the Outsiders. 8:24 Tim figured out Dick Grayson was Robin (and only a hop skip and a jump to figuring out he's Nightwing) in the comics; in fact, three guesses what meme shows up whenever someone does a quadruple somersault. (Ironically, Marv Wolfman had Dick doing the quadruple somersault before there was a Jason, let alone Tim. It shows up in the first of many Titans pool scenes.) Now, this Tim seems to have more social skills. (In the comics, Tim literally crosses state lines and breaks into Dick and Kory's apartment. And Tim was more like "You gotta be Robin again." 12:10 I'll assume it was a reference to Batgirl volume 1's climax. There's a Lazarus pit in a warehouse in Bludhaven, Gotham's even-worse suburb. Don't' ask how, it just is. Anyway, Mr. Freeze wants to resurrect his wife, and it turns out, she's even worse than him, and she never knew him when she was alive. Batgirl volume 1 is definitely a case of the old comic motto: "Our lot loves the lavishly ludicrous." But that means getting into Cassandra Cain's history, which we don't have time for.

[@catspaw3092]

Donna should've been brought back by the gods of Olympus that would make more sense don't use the Lazarus Pit because it changes the person's personality. Although it would be interesting if Donna was brought back by the Lazarus Pit & she starts doing things she would never do. As for the Scarecrow having his own Lazarus Pit that is ridiculous because Ra's would never let his secrets get out about how his beloved pit works. I will admit that the Red Hood costume really looks badass it really pops.

[@zoo8985]

the way tim drake found out who robin and batman is was how it was done originally in the comics. It was done to show how smart he was from a young age too. Does it realistically make much sense, no. Is it fun? yes.

[@ReviewKingMB]

You're right, I do remember that now. Fair enough

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

9:18 NO TIM DRAKE FIGURED IT OUT IN THE COMICS BECAUSE HES SMART

[@ReviewKingMB]

I STILL DONT LIKE IT

[@Aatheef_]

​@@ReviewKingMBbut that's how it goes in the comics i know it's kind of ridiculous but it's how he meets nightwing and becomes robin later

[@mckelsupreme]

I thought that was Alfred when I first saw him lol 😅 Bruce Wayne? Maybe Adam West Batman version 😂😂😂

[@Iam123-i5j]

My issue with Bruce Wayne in Titans is they should've at least showed his batsuit in the batcave at some point.

[@Tigerheiress]

i just think hes too OLD!! this is like a batman beyond age batman just no

[@samwilsoncaptainamerica233]

@@Tigerheiress I almost thought he was Alfred

[@Lauren007E]

In fairness, Batman totally was going to kill the Joker back when he murdered Jason. The only reason he didn't actually get to was because Superman stopped him/saved him from the helicopter crash. Bruce Wayne was also shown to be sucidal after Jason died. At least passively suicidal/not trying to protect his life in any way. And allowing himself to be hurt more often. But this Jason? Heck he should be red hood to come back and take down the jerk offs who hurt and gaslighted him. Because these Titans I legit hate, and I hate how they treated him. If hes got no grievances with Batman then make him have it with the titans for bullying a vulnerable kid for doing nothing they didnt also do

[@globesnow6377]

“An Unholy Rant” is actually insane i had to click 😭

[@grandcanyon-l7d]

Season 4 finale looks is gonna be more anti climactic

[@TJUC123]

We saw ONE shot of Themyscira in DC’s Legends of Tomorrow, and it was 10 times better than what we got in this show.

[@swimfan752]

It’s so crazy how they don’t show Batman doing awesome stuff. You would almost think it’s not a Batman show … oh wait

[@ReviewKingMB]

So why even have Batman there at all is my question

[@emmanuelweinman9673]

Just like in Titans, once you get involved with the show it’s hard to leave, no matter how shitty it gets.

[@kwabenadan8607]

Exactly Episode one will be great if we see the joker killing Jason Todd

[@ReviewKingMB]

Yes!

[@Star_fish]

I think your first point about the Joker is valid, it's just that WB (I think) are really strict on who gets to use which characters. For example, in the TV show Gotham, they weren't allowed to actually say the Joker was the Joker nor were they allowed to actually use a Batman suit in the last scene of the show. I don't think it's a result of the writer's room but the people at the top being annoying. Which is probably why we never actually see Titans Batman be Batman.

[@ReviewKingMB]

I hear that, I just feel like in that case the writers should have just changed it and used a different villain

[@Star_fish]

@@ReviewKingMB But would people be satisfied with Jason being murdered by another villain? Probably not. To resolve these issues, the Titans writing team should of just never touched Red Hood at all but here we are lol.

[@jonbrewer297]

It's funny. Barbara's whole alibi as Oracle was that Oracle was an AI, in fact we at first are told Oracle is an AI until we see her mourn one of the dead Suicide Squad members, so that is sorta-canon. But we also didn't get her on the Suicide Squad or any of the other Oracle-related stuff. (Memo to James Gunn: If you like Ostrander's Suicide Squad, give us Oracle.)

[@globesnow6377]

The Red Hood story was done so horribly

[@ReviewKingMB]

Definitely

[@CyberRaze11]

I just got through finally binging season 3 now it’s rant time let’s do it

[@ReviewKingMB]

😂

[@Chiken971]

I love how super boy canonically is like 2 and looses his virginity 😄

[@arielartmind606]

Who gave these writers a job, they must have family in the biz. I'm seriously thinking of writing because I couldn't do worse than this show's writers.

[@Tigerheiress]

LMFAO RIGHT

[@DioStandProud]

My problem is i am spoiled by Arkham Knight's Scarecrow and literally every other depiction now is subpar to me.

[@ReviewKingMB]

Same

[@killerb187r.o.dstunna9]

When we reach episode 8 is when they really piss me off with the writing it makes no sense 24:30 my sentiment exactly you read my mind

[@zachlind5417]

It's unfortunate this is the version of titans we got. There's so much good story to be adapted. The teen titans have their own unique world full of fun villains. This show didn't want any of that. It was just crying and sulking that it wasn't a batman show. It was unoriginal and desperate.

[@palatrass]

I completely agree with you. From someone who watched every Batman animated movie, this is all a joke. Season 1 was great for me. Season 2 more good than great. And finally 3, fuck it. From Batman killing, being incompetent to Jason revealing to the villain and potentially the world the ids of Batman and titans plus turning out to be a completely useless Red hood villain... This are HUGE RED flags and there still are many more

[@ReviewKingMB]

Thank you

[@Iwillone]

Iain Glen would have hands down been a better Alfred (- ^ ) Absolutely could not take Red Hood seriously. It was way too soon and they adapted him horrendously. Blackfire I liked a whole lot more than Starfire but they also botched her as the main villain.

[@Thatfalloutgirl]

The fact that they dont bring Rose and Jerico back, or even say thats why Jayson went nutz. Idk. I didnt like that either

[@2dpang]

Oh man thank u 4 this, i tried giving the show a chance bt after season 2 ridiculous finale i couldn't evn bother watching S3. Can't believe they brought back Donna after killing her off in the worst way possible 😤🤦🏾‍♂️ I thought CW's Flash was bad Titans def took the title of being the WORST superhero show🗑️🗑️ I feel like i wanna do a review too on KZbin....i need sum lessons 💯😉

[@ReviewKingMB]

This season was really rough but not sure if I'd say it's worse than The Flash

[@summer93i]

I just skipped the whole episode with Donna and Raven when they brought her back. Load of bs imo. I have such mixed feelings abt this show

[@joeker5208]

I don’t like Titans season 3, but legally, the showrunners can’t show Joker or Batman. DC does not allow those two to be on tv. That’s why Batman couldn’t show up the Arrowverse or Smallvile. Even Gotham could only show Batman oncr

[@ReviewKingMB]

They still could have done a better job of writing and using them ... or not using them at all

[@joeker5208]

@@ReviewKingMB yeah but they won’t ever be able to actually show Batman or Joker unless DC finally relinquishes control

[@ReviewKingMB]

@@joeker5208 but my point is don't use the Joker if you can't really use him ... and write a better reason why Bruce is not involved

[@AfroV]

I think it's funny that everyone is so afraid of getting cancelled for critiquing a black/mixed actor that they won't dare to mention that the tim drake portrayal is goofy as hell. Not only that but when we get to meet his family we see his full Asian cousin and from his very first lines he gives off a waaay more tim drake vibe than that dude. Just another fine example of Hollywood not wanting to cast asians in leading roles .

[@ReviewKingMB]

As much as I obviously like seeing more mixed actors getting roles I think an Asian Tim Drake makes a lot of sense

[@AfroV]

@@ReviewKingMB yeah true. would kinda make things come to full circle with Bruce being trained by Asians then give back by training a young hopeful Asian to be Robin who turns out to be arguably the most worthy to inherit the batman mantle.

[@frankallen3634]

They don't have the legal rights to use the batman character. That's why he's either dead or out of town in every show. I don't stream so I'll never see this

[@ReviewKingMB]

Right and I always say they just shouldn't make the show if they can't use him

[@e.mountain1637]

Dick did apologize to Superboy. But Conner said he understood, since he just blew up Blackfires spaceship…

[@hjuoowou560]

Ur voice is soo calming

[@uranuslad9855]

Superboy needed his own show. He was wasted in this one, but the episode where he was the focus was excellent. Hawk/Dove made NO sense throughout the series. There was no reason not to give them the superpowers they had in the comics, as their use didn't rely upon any more expensive special effects than the ones already employed trying to make them appear effective as non-powered people in those costumes. Glad Ritchson was able to get out and into Reacher. On the Bat side of things, I always thought the actor would have made a fine Alfred, bot NOT Batman. Didn't like the portrayals of any of the Batkids, but I am alone in hating Mary Sue Tim Drake, and not a fan of Red Hood or Barbara-as-Oracle. The rest of the Titans were not the characters I knew from the comics, either, though I did like the actress playing Donna in Season two.

[@ReviewKingMB]

You're right. That actor would be a great Alfred

[@hylianglitchmobber7570]

Titans sucks. It has always sucked. The writing is awful, the plot is shyte, and the acting is all over the place. Costume design is pretty solid though

[@thomasarnoldcoe6527]

I feel bad for the cast What a waste The whole thing was badly thought out and written They could have had something great here

[@shinkaiatsuya950]

You know its bad when live action Red Hood is being beat by Lego DC Batman: Family Matters Red Hood. Still not a great one but better than whatever Titans did.

[@thomasarnoldcoe6527]

I think Iain Glenn is great I understand they cast him for his screen presence He brings a great gravitas You’re right It’s the writing that ruins Batman

[@splintert4231]

This show's failure really hurts as I feel it had so much potential and so many element that could have made a good show. Oh well.

[@boxingelfis1499]

Hmmmmm... this Batman still isn’t as bad as All-star Batman and Robin's version😂😂😂

[@phoenixwire100]

they just need it to go on with the show.

[@shawnswint1521]

I'm Starting to Think that Maybe Warner/Discovery has a Right to Cancel this Show. Doom Patrol I'd be Bummed to see it go, But Titans, Not so Much. There is so Many Things WRONG in this Show that I'm Amazed it Even got Renewed for a Season 4.

[@user-oj4wi9to7m]

You do realize that legally they can’t have the joker or Batman in a show fully since Christopher Nolan made a deal with DC that they can only appear in one thing (movie and/tv show) at a time. Same reason joker never appeared in Gotham but Jerome, or whatever his name was. Even the final episode gave us knock odd versions of both characters

[@ReviewKingMB]

Which is why my point was to not do this story in the show if you can't do it properly

[@ViolentVillain]

There were legal reasons they couldn't have the joker. That's why they can't really have Batman just Bruce Wayne

[@ReviewKingMB]

If that is true then I would argue to not use them at all

[@cortezlucious95]

@@ReviewKingMB That's MY entire standpoint! Don't tease us.

[@orignofficials]

I thought Dick Grayson and Donna was like a bro and sis bond.

[@ReviewKingMB]

You're probably right, I could have misread their past history

[@Tayo-Seis_biggest_fan]

Of all the plot lines and stories to take inspiration from, Arkham Knight was the best they could come up with.

[@TevyaSmolka]

Yeah this was a trainwreck

[@ReviewKingMB]

Exactly!

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@ReviewKingMB indeed which is sad because this season had so much potential.

[@Dcuniverse60]

@@TevyaSmolka because of the writers making a batman show instead focus on the younger titans so I was like fuck this show in done they ain't wasting my time anymore

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@Dcuniverse60 that's true and you're right about that

[@Dcuniverse60]

@@TevyaSmolka i want raven solo movies with james gunn as director and Writer. Dont care about dickgrayson just raven wb what a hack are ya wainting for

[@phoenixwire100]

guys its just about red hood and scarecrow which I liked

[@gorkegorke1781]

jason todd looks like one of those kids that do tik tok dances

[@ReviewKingMB]

Lmao

[@zdenshadowdragonbyzideodi8819]

Im sure even a toddler couldve written this show better

[@ReviewKingMB]

Probably right

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

I only watched season 3 for the red hood because of the mask and introfuction scene. But its crazy

[@trevturp6891]

Batgirl isn’t against vigilantism.

[@ReviewKingMB]

Did you watch the season? She hated Batman and was against Dick more often than anything

[@trevturp6891]

@@ReviewKingMB She used to be a vigilante and she works with vigilantes to stop super villains, so she isn't against vigilantism.

[@trevturp6891]

@@ReviewKingMB I have watched clips of Season 3 on youtube.

[@ReviewKingMB]

@@trevturp6891 then watch the whole season, she argues with Nightwing constantly about not wanting to work with them

[@trevturp6891]

@@ReviewKingMB But she doesn't arrest him, and the other heroes in Gotham and s he was once a vigilante herself, so she isn't against vigilantism.

[@e.mountain1637]

I found Hank and Dove an unwelcome distraction- lol. I got used to them though. I like their history of how they got together and their struggles. Didn’t get how and when Dove and Dick got together and Dove and Hank got back together after Dove and Dick… But the worst character that they spent way too much time on was Donna in my opinion. I ended up past forwarding through most of Donna’s scenes and Ravens scenes on the Island… like what was the point? And the show spent way too much time on scenes with Dick just looking at things- like him walking around rooms or walking to somewhere…. That ended up getting fast forwarded too… lol. But all in all I was disappointed that they cancelled the show- I liked a lot of things- especially the group interactions in season 4. And wanted to see where Dick and Starfire get together and see what’s next for Conner.

[@e.mountain1637]

Oh yeah and Jason. Like why does everyone feel bad for Jason? He was prime for the next villain! He had serious issues- number 1 was lack of accountability- number 2 no ability to handle hardship with being a total jerk- so yeah he was Ripe for villain hood. I didn’t like that the show made Jason’s issues Dicks fault and guilt.

[@final909]

My favorite charcter of the DC is Jason Todd Red Hood but this Red Hood suck bad, So I'm glad I stop watching this show.

[@ReviewKingMB]

In general Jason Todd as Red Hood is a great character, not so much here

[@undying_artv2]

Red hood looks like a teenage power ranger

[@alexandervazquez7770]

Get the complain on how you know the joker isn't shown in episode one but he legally couldn't they didn't have the right to him but they could have use red hood and so they could only use the silhouette of the joker.

[@ReviewKingMB]

This is true, I think I just would have presented it differently or made Deathstroke in last season kill him

[@biguy617]

I hated it too.

[@ReviewKingMB]

👍

[@andreaguillade7120]

I had watched half of this season when it aired, and last month I actually sat down and watched it completely.... it was such a disappointment. And I think the main reason is that there is not ONE clear motivation for ANY of the characters. They are just there, doing stuff, and what they do one episode is a 180 from what they've done the prior episode. I don't even mind that we can't see the Joker for some reason, there are ways of telling about all the shitty things he does to all of thses characters without an actual actor if you are creative enough. But they are not creative and so the plot is all over the place, Jason is caught between having his agenda and then being a puppet, the Kory plot is total bull, Dick is a dick to his team, Barbara is a bitchy bitch, Crane is just pathetic, and the Lazarus pit is basically Mountain Dew... Just awful all around

[@marocat4749]

cartheiser actually plays rally well in angel, as him kinda be annoying and over the place , is kinda because he ius a teenager who grew up raised by his dads archenemy. So hje is pretty messed up. And he is really irritating but because of the above, it really makes sense. is tragic at end season 4, and in season 5 we get a bit of a version og him that had a healthy supprtive home, To really show how well he played that messed uplost misguided teenager, that apearently go a lot of hate, but , really fit connor being an annoying distrubed teenager. and season 4 finale is heartbreaking that he was manipulated by everyone and . I mean he can really act it out if he has to do it, i mean its not his faultr if he i seither miscast if they want a really hammy madman, or terrible directions.

[@phoenixwire100]

its just a show about titans not batman and joker

[@ReviewKingMB]

Then why include them at all?

[@rasaansmoot523]

@@ReviewKingMB that’s irreasonable, they don’t always have to be the center of attention but they can still be involved without having major roles

[@ReviewKingMB]

@@rasaansmoot523 I never said they can't bw side characters in a story, my complaint is how they were written especially Batman doing things that feel out of character

[@rasaansmoot523]

@@ReviewKingMB okay, i liked bruce in the titans and i’m always open minded when it come to dc but he does act out of character for unnecessary reasons my bad.

[@grandcanyon-fu9zt]

Titans season 3 is worse than Arrow season 4

[@ReviewKingMB]

Hmm idk at least it wasn't 22 episodes

[@grandcanyon-fu9zt]

@@ReviewKingMB the writing is worse tho and more convoluted, this show must be next level of bad that you say that Arrow season 4 is more tolerable, the villain is the worst , the characters still learnt nothing and at least Arrow still had some interesting characters TITANS until still don't know what to do, just cancel this show.

[@greeenarrrow1362]

nothing is worse than arrow season 4

[@ImaginaryNate]

Titans S3 definitely wasn’t worse than Arrow Season 4, you’re just looking for reasons to be mad at this show at this point. It was more on par with Arrow Season 6… had great moments/episodes and a lot of massive potential, but couldn’t figure out how to capitalize with what they were given.

[@grandcanyon-fu9zt]

@@ImaginaryNate I am not blindly hating ,but the writing is horrible, the plot is all over the place , the villain is worse , the characters are worse written : tell me , what's the point of Hawk and Dove ? The most useless characters, dumb way to bring back Donna and Hawk, the training on the Amazon island was non existent, Bruce Wayne is irresponsible and unlikable, Grayson is just throwing tantrum over Bruce 24/7, BB and Superboy are useless, the starfire arc was thrown out of the window and final was a disaster. Arrow at least ha some consistency with the storyline and the villain, this show has no idea what the storyline even is...

[@carterisgod22]

As a person who never read the comics and only watch the first titans show on Cartoon network I really enjoyed it

[@ReviewKingMB]

Cool 👍

[@summer93i]

Same here. I haven't really properly read the comics, so when I watched titans, I wasn't really expecting much. But ofc I can understand where these ppl were coming from. They expected the original red hood to finally come to life and instead got *that* Although I'm addicted to this show, it obviously has it's flaws 🌚 Like the pacing, the writing, the finales, the cgi, the character development 🗿

[@garyrobinson8665]

I'm in the minority but I really liked the season. It was fun and I think the cast is great. Liked scarecrow and I think the production design is too notch.However I do have some problems. The writing is all over the place really sloppy. Lots of plot armour and really contrived at times. I hated the episode when Donna was in the afterlife and came back from the dead. So silly. I didnt buy it. When you die you should stay dead. Overall I really enjoyed it but I had some major issues with it throughout. I agree with most of what you said but I could let a lot of it slide.

[@summer93i]

Their was literally no reason to bring her back 💀 she's just lowkey kinda boring, and considering everyone's personalities seem exactly the same (arrogant arsehole) it was just really unnecessary for her to come bk.

[@e.mountain1637]

I just discovered this show and watched all seasons 1-4 over the last week. I am disappointed that it’s cancelled. It has some issues but I feel like season 4 it was starting to get good momentum and move to good place- then boom cancelled.

[@theresidentteacher2438]

That's HOW Tim Drake figured it out in the COMICS. Show SUCKS but do the homework.

[@RodimusMinor1987]

I didn't like Tim in this, they made him annoying and calling Donor old for being 30 plus, stereotypical rude teenager there, you are older than me so then you are old old. The revival of Donor was sort of explained that their was a bridge that leaves the afterlife, yes that doesn't make sense but at least they tried to explain it Dick's death was so lame he was killed by a kid, also the gun shot isn't what killed him, it was being beaten to death by civilians, Civilians dude had body armor and was guarding his head how did he die, and what is worse we didn't see in the end of the show any of that Mob being arrested, we should have had a scene where we see Barbara at a door we see the kid who shot Dick open it and we see her holding Handcuffs, Or If Jason was the real Red Hood have Jason Kill that mob as we know Comic book Red Hood would have done so in a heart beat

[@danielmwale5789]

18:40 wait Hank did what? 😂😂😂

[@damianstarks3338]

Perfect rant you are talking straight facts in this rant

[@ReviewKingMB]

Thank you

[@damianstarks3338]

@@ReviewKingMB Don’t mention it keep videos like this coming

[@thomasarnoldcoe6527]

Me too, Bro

[@Spider_Gary_Edits1]

Why do people hate this show

[@Dithunder]

I agree with everything you said hit nail on the head.

[@TestKanal0001]

The only thing i remember from this show is this relation ship with superboy and blackfire remember blackfire is possesing this womans body she has children like in Wonderwoman 2

[@ReviewKingMB]

Oh really? I never put that together

[@trevturp6891]

Nightwing didn’t hook up with Donna Troy.

[@ReviewKingMB]

He did

[@trevturp6891]

@@ReviewKingMB No, he didn't

[@ReviewKingMB]

@@trevturp6891 watch the whole season first

[@cesar6447]

Nightwing hooked up with every female live form in this show

[@trevturp6891]

@@cesar6447 No, he didn't.

[@mr.welly_the_bot]

18:40 💀💀💀

[@tyreacedaniels2932]

good job

[@ReviewKingMB]

Thanks!

[@Dcuniverse60]

@@ReviewKingMB this writers needs to leave greg walker himself geof johns too! before it gets worse! Wb brothers make solo movie with raven beastboy starfire

[@jasongreen6826]

While agree the show is trash 1. The way Tim Drake found out who Batman and robin is is the same as how it was in the comics and 2. The way Donna Troy came back was going through that thing with the upside down tree and whatnot; it’s like you weren’t actually watching the show coz how did you miss that 3. Hanks plan was to placate Jason and kill him when he’s off his guard because he actually believed Jason was telling the truth 4. Dick did apologise for hitting superbly with kryptonite

[@mrglowee4813]

he was complaining about bruce wayne but this show isnt about bruce wayne its about the titans not bruce wayne you should remember bruce wayne isnt part of the titans

[@ReviewKingMB]

I don't want him to be in the group but if you're a writer and you're going to include Bruce Wayne then you still have to get the character right

[@chrisgilbert5461]

I guess you dont know anything about the comics, i was really thinking if someone is gonna judge something so hardcore they'd atleast know the sorce material. I actually enjoyed titans for what it was. Atleast we got something with nightwing and red hood together on the big screen. Its because of half assed reveiws like this that we wont even get this anymore because warner thinks everyone hates it. Someone that obviously has no idea what they are talking about atleast sorce material wise.....do better

[@ReviewKingMB]

I love that just because you enjoyed something it automatically means everyone else should. So entitled, have better taste