These Transformers Never Get Good Toys

[@Hurricanelive]

I'd be fine letting Arcee have a little more. Bit more cushion and give her that 40/50's pin up vibe. They again are stuck in a G1 mindset but with modern engineering, on a bot that never had a toy, just a bot and alt mode that was never meant to mesh.

[@wakeangel2001]

My favorite Arcee is the Animated version, she looks the most like her G1 counterpart while having a good transformation, using car parts to make her body, and having good sized feet that allow for posing. Arcee also has really good toys of the times she isn't a car, like Prime Arcee and Bumblebee movie Arcee. Now for a character that NEVER got a good toy, I'd have to go to my old standby, Airachnid. Her Prime figure was SO bad I remember it made you question your top 5 worst transformers of all time back in the day, her tiny little legion figure was better, but nobody is ever going to be satisfied by THAT. Since then her only official new toy so far was a one step changer for Transformers One, but I'm not even sure they announced a proper warrior or deluxe figure for her (which would be a massive shame, I actually really liked her One design and would love to get a good toy of it)

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

You have no idea how much I want a Voyager Class TFOne Airachnid

[@SpaceManRD]

Funnily, the 'hoverboard' idea probably would have worked better if they'd used more of the car-like, incorporate the hood so it's at least shaped vaguely like a _board,_ maybe collapse the cockpit a bit. Would result in Arcee herself having less of a backpack (and a more accurate one).

[@braydenpage1808]

Arcee has one good toy you neglected, Studio Series Bumblebee movie Arcee. It's s great figure that manages to have an actual transformation and avoid an egregiously large backpack. It was good posability as well. Definitely the best Arcee made as of now.

[@schlieffenman957]

He's specifically talking about G1 arcee I think, but I agree with you

[@braydenpage1808]

@schlieffenman957 the first toy he mentioned was a Beast Wars figure though.

[@Teh_Spirit]

@braydenpage1808 isn't beast wars part of g1 continuity though?

[@Stuffies2022]

I honestly don’t think the SS86 one is bad, either.

[@braydenpage1808]

​@@Teh_Spirit yeah, but you wouldn't call a Beast Wars toy a G1 toy.

[@Miragereviews]

9:12 I love kingdom tracks

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

I don't get why Knockout was made out of Jazz and not the Prowl/Bluestreak mould. I feel like the big bumper chest doesn't work for Knockout at all.

[@BioMega96]

You say that yet that mold also got a bit of a bumper chest as well

[@felderup]

easy, do a gender swap.

[@TristenSarelvun]

I don't particularly want another recent breakout character being reduced to yet another Datson remold (Barricade, what have they done to you? Gimme the wheels and windows above his shoulders!), but maybe most people would be cool with it.

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

With how TFP Knock Out's chest is shaped, I don't see Legacy Knock-Out as a bad interpretation. Now if only he was free from Jazz's clear plastic breakage issues...

[@Trebleshot]

Legacy Wildrider came out first. Breakdown is his retool. That's part of the reason the spoiler is half-assed, since Wildrider didn't have one. If Breakdown had gotten his own mold, they might have been able to make it work properly.

[@galaxycamerata]

That's the weird thing: They had to remold the part back there to add the pegs FOR the spoiler. They could've just molded it so that it's a more flush spoiler that also splits in half, and given him either a second gun or a more convincing blade attachment for the one he got.

[@Cadeho3]

I wish we'd get Sunstorm and Bitstream as Siege tetrajets to complete the Welcoming Committee

[@brentsimard977]

"Ronald Mc Donald looking son of a bot" 😁

[@ejhproductions1]

*Broadside has entered the chat*

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

Hey TJ, have you ever thought about combining your two intros? That way you can keep track of both the amount of daily content, and the Patreon shoutouts.

[@RialVestro]

TJ: I've got buttons down below, just hit buttons. Me:😂

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

The key to getting a good new Tracks figure would be to take the original toy’s transformation and simply make quality of life improvements. Who cares if he ends up with a wide chest because of it? I’d rather have a thicker Tracks than a spindly one who can’t hold together for crap but “looks like the cartoon more”.

[@franzise3605]

They seem to be doing this with a lot of characters lately; the Battlechargers come to mind as another couple of figures that have 3/4 of their car modes folded up on their backs for the sake of a slightly smaller faux chest I'm all for cartoon accuracy but not when the toys themselves have to sacrifice so much for it

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

@@franzise3605 Agreed. I'm frankly just at the point where once the 1984-1986 guys are finished (assuming that what Mark said about 2026 being the "end of the dream"), I want Hasbro to go back to Classics/Universe 2/early Generations-tier reinventions rather than slavish recreations of designs from a cartoon that couldn't even be accurate to itself.

[@marknewland9314]

Speaking of Triple Changers, poor Broadside.

[@Arrabbiata-o9t]

I feel like Arcee doesn't really belong on this list, because the Generations Arcee has aged very well compared to modern attempts at the character. While the design philosophy of the toy (shellforming and backpack) may be controversial, it is still objectively a pretty solid and fun toy to play and mess with. Honestly, she doesn't even shellform as much as you think - at least it tries to incorporate the car in its thighs and chest. And if the black parts aren't to your taste, the Takara color scheme has got you covered.

[@optimistprime3192]

Was also thinking this. You can even replace the odd hands with SS86’s since they are so similar.

[@BainesMkII]

Third party Magic Square kind of made an Arcee without a big backpack, but they cheated with an SD character design (MS-G01 Peach Girl) where they could use the giant head as a backpack. Though they still did a better job than I'd honestly expected.

[@Fuzzy_Barbarian]

I forgot how unpleasant Legacy Armada Hot Shot's legs are to handle until you brought him up and I messed with him after like a year. They feel legitimately incomplete.

[@smileformer968]

I like the kingdom tracks and legacy breakdown tracks more than breakdown

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

Why not have Arcee laying on her back, and shooting the production photos from a ceiling view?

[@leanarchista133]

Cuz some shots are kinda impossible even while laying down Plus the shadows,all that

[@KRBrickBot]

19:50 At least HasSun has a hot orange fire wing deco. That part alone should be an inspiration for an Earthrise deco sheet. (as with MP Acid Storm)

[@thedesucomplex4365]

Breakdown reminds me that we probably won't get a good figure of his appearance in Earthspark, and that makes me sad because that design is SO good.

[@galaxycamerata]

I feel like whenever they try to fix Armada Hot Shot - or most characters they re-do really - they misconstrue what fixing that design really means. They can - and most often should - just redo the original transformation with the hindsight of the original design's flaws. Legacy Armada Hot Shot would've been so much better if they had just accepted that Hot Shot's visual style innately used the forearm windshields to accentuate that sports-jock personality. Just make it so they can be repositioned rather than just shoving them onto the back of the legs and hoping no one will notice. Not all kibble needs to "disappear". Let characters have visual quirks. As for Sunstorm: I think it's because they were trying to make him into the yellow Rainmaker before they decided to reinvent the yellow one into Nova Storm

[@WillisWheeler]

The best arcee is the legends one because they got rid of the black paint on here . I got both .

[@Jazzer995]

I like the Kingdom Rhinox - except the weapons, but two ROTB Rhino Battilizers solved that. There is an Arcee that they can make that won't have a backpack, but it's not G1 - the version from the Terminator crossover comics and you can also get a Velocity out of her aa well. Dr Lockdown recently had a video of a 3P Octane that Hasbro should copy when it comes to making a Legacy version.

[@Ezilla82]

Dang, I never knew some characters had some bad figures.

[@raevir]

If Kingdom Track's legs transformed more intuitively, he would be more fun to play with. I agree that headmaster Arcee is the best Arcee out there, love that mold. I wish there was a good Mirage toy based on an F1 Race Car. I was not a fan of the transformation of the Earthrise/Siege versions being so different from the original and the fact that there is no space to fit a driver inside.

[@Saturnlock]

The legs are fine imo. The real problem with Tracks is that God awful stress-inducing windshield transformation. I also wish the WFC Mirage mold was better. I have no idea why they felt the need to change it from the G1 style. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[@Red_Kaiju_Lord]

Are we gonna get the 10 best figures of 2024 in the near future?

[@leanarchista133]

Since it's actually done, hopefully-

[@felderup]

for april 1st, which everyone round here will forget about, maybe grab an orange polo shirt for a gripe segment?

[@grimwolf100]

this is definitely a case of personal taste because i like most of the new toys that you mentioned.

[@mortelpaolo]

Kingdom Tracks has a fix for his legs. It's a really small piece you gotta glue in place. Then Kiki his thighs and feet. With all that he could pretty much stand on 1 leg while kicking thr other leg upward and he wouldn't fall down. His hollow forearms has a nice fix too.

[@BotsNBricks-eo1ot]

I would throw Ravage on this list too. I don't think I've ever had a Ravage I would call good. The closest was the Universe one that came with Hound but his head sculpt looked more like Laserbeak. I'll admit there are quite a few versions I haven't got my hands on so I could wrong but I think out of all the cassette bots he's suffered the most.

[@skystreak1983]

Hot take: I like the 2008 Octane/Tankor. I concede the death comb, but I like the toy itself. Going from a tanker truck to a 747 is almost as unbelievable as Broadside, and Transformers needs more propeller planes. Would Octane work better if he was retooled from Jazz?

[@ATransformerTale]

I knew Hotshot would be on here even before beginning the video

[@Okie-00-Spool]

Kingdom Tracks would be tolerable, but for the tab issue in the shins. It has some interesting design choices. If only he could stand.

[@SicMetalMaggot4life]

Not sure if you take video suggests from comments, but what about a “WHAT IF CHUG/GENERATIONS/MASTERPIECE DIDN’T EXIST?” video? In it, we pretend no character ever got a new figure beyond the FIRST figure from the original toyline/show they debuted in? Homages like Cybertron Downshift and unique universe iterations a la Animated Rodimus still count but not second iterations like Powermaster Optimus Prime. What would the best mainline figures of the franchise be without those staple toylines or direct character remakes as a whole? How would we view G1 OP and Megs if those were the ONLY toys of them?

[@capmodesty]

My major issue with MP Tracks was the horrible pinned ratchet joints that were toothed too far apart with too much play, if they had just gone with friction joints like with the cars before him I would have liked it better

[@BCchannel1993]

I love the kingdom tracks...and i accept any and all resentment coming my way, i will stand by my opinion, hes no where near the blight everyone claims he is

[@DanielRocha-gc3em]

And I want to have another chance of for another breakdown being reissued and have his vehicle mode be updated to have the new doors and windows sculpted in

[@sci-fi.tsunami]

Arcee can have a great toy if you guys would stop hating on shellformers and partsformers. I have no problem removing a large chunk of the car & putting it off to the side while she's in robot mode. I have an imagination. I can pretend that large chunk of car disappeared into her somehow. Just like Optimus Prime's trailer vanished into thin air in the G1 cartoon. Unfortunately, most of you guys would rather complain about everything under the sun.

[@superpixelwarrior6893]

Am I the only one that likes the kingdom Rhinox mold…?

[@jahey4763]

Honestly G1 Elita could be here too like her legacy toy is....fine (if not a little mediocre) but its not a great fit tbh and its way too small she deserves a better attempt

[@doomslayerprime9749]

Literally in my opinion the only time Arcee Evers had good figures is 3rd party and the Models and the 2 Prime deluxes

[@tyguy1789]

I feel like I'm the only one in the world who loves kingdom tracks. I custom painted mine, and it looks just like the mp which I have. also, really good, and the altinators tracks is really good to, I don't get the hate at all. Ps : I love the covet and tracks G1 design, so I might be a bit biest

[@ftfasttalkfoodreviewsyt]

Time for talking over, time to push buttons

[@Fuzzy_Barbarian]

The "sagging" is what stopped me from getting Masterpiece Arcee. I still think she's one of the best Arcee toys, but what were they thinking with how low that chest is. It's awful.

[@NerdRahtio]

My fav Arcee is actually the cyber verse one you didn’t mention. I had thrilling 30 but I think I sold her.

[@geraldcokes5883]

I love Kingdom Tracks look...I just hate the leg transformation 😢

[@lynngreen7978]

I push da buttons!

[@thepolarphantasm2319]

I wish they'd just let someone take the lady bots in their own direction kinda, so theyre not all just arcee repaints Im a victorion mark, let the chicks do their thang hasbros

[@ericbay398]

Agreed. The Combiner Wars fembots were almost an insult

[@BainesMkII]

Hasbro seems to still follow the idea that female figures don't sell. Though they are at least willing to release multiple female figures, they only seem willing to create one female design which gets reused to make every other female bike/car, plane, or whatever.

[@djross2000]

With both Masterpiece and Kingdom Tracks, I feel they overengineered the legs, as every time I transform them I feel like I'm going to break them. They did them in such a way to require so specific an order of operations that it's ridiculous, and all in service of putting the wheels toward the back of the legs, which is an erroneous interpretation of the animation model. The Legacy Wildrider/Breakdown mold is a little annoying, but more so for Breakdown since they sacrificed a lot on his vehicle mode. I've basically taken it to being he scanned (or was made from) someone's cheap-ass conversion kit that was trying to be a Lambo but couldn't pull it off. As for the Combiner Wars version, I had the Unite Warriors set for a time so I know how that figure was, and it wasn't great (also Takara cheaped out by not giving him his unique fist/foot/weapon piece that was designed for the Sunstreaker retool). Also I'm assuming the discussion of worst CW figures is specific to the Deluxes, as undoubtedly the Optimus/Motormaster figure was the worst overall (not even mentioning that my UW Motormaster had one of the last cases of GPS. That note on TFWiki about if you were unlucky yours could split on the first day? THAT WAS ME. That's literally my edit.) Fortunately, though, we got a pretty good Motormaster with the Legacy version.

[@asantiago704]

I like the Kingdom Tracks but yes, the legs specially suck.

[@Gregory11811]

Does anyone like Legacy Breakdown? No, because no one could ever find it!

[@otaking3582]

What do you mean G1 Arcee hasn't gotten a good figure?! Studio Series 86 and Masterpiece were both good!

[@Randomman-2334]

My complaint about kingdom tracks is the legs not tabbing in,the wings are too short and unpainted,and the backpack transformation is lazy and bad.

[@kevinp.h157]

9:13 I have As for the others, this is why tf collectors go with 3rd parties, some of them ditching hasbro entirely

[@leanarchista133]

Ive actually wanted the Kingdom Tracks,but then i saw...whoever that red one is,idk why but i have a thng of wanting to get the cool repaint of a figure than the actual base figure Hell,i love Legacy Scourge more than Laser Optimus,cuz i finally have a nemesis ish prime

[@confusedshovel1232]

the red repaint of kingdom tracks is roadrage

[@leanarchista133]

@confusedshovel1232 why does alot of my fav repaints of figures have to do with something about the road- the repaint of Crashbar Red Repaint of Prime Arcee Black and Red Repaint of skids Red Repaint of Tracks-

[@confusedshovel1232]

coincidence? I THINK NOT (also the black and red skids is burnout)

[@leanarchista133]

@@confusedshovel1232 yea all I have is Burnout,really wanted Road Rocket,but alas I ended up with Scourge, Burnout and Road Hauler

[@AllegedOrder]

Pressing all the buttons to help the channel 👈👈👈👈👈

[@nobodyimportant5140]

I’m gonna disagree with you about Sunstorm. His Animated toy is the right colors. I just got one recently. :3

[@DanielRocha-gc3em]

I have studio series 86 arcee now and I have yet to transform her

[@TFormers2002]

Im here to defend MP Tracks and still wanna get the repaints. He's pretty decent for what he does.

[@Trebleshot]

Agreed. And infinitely better than the Kingdom attempt.

[@Randomman-2334]

True plus the car mode on mp tracks is beautiful

[@superpixelwarrior6893]

What is wrong with built to rule hot shots face?

[@drakewarden7]

FOR THE ALGORITHM!

[@WillisWheeler]

I do not like the kingdom tracks is a hot mess

[@charlesromano7463]

I know I'm in the minority but I actually like kingdom and rts tracks figures

[@shadmiller7282]

Strange how you praise T30 Arcee except for the black, but gloss over SS86 as just a repaint of T30 when one, it fixes the colors and B, there is actually significant remolding that fixes the proportions in both robot and vehicle modes.

[@Saturnlock]

Because it's worse. They took out all of the engineering and gave her a giant backpack. The reason he mentioned the black is because it's not show accurate. He specifically said she's never had a good toy that was show accurate. -5:45. He also does mention 86 Arcee.

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

Jazz should not be used for wheelie and knockout ever.

[@snitchbug]

if they went for the concept art where he was a porsche, i’d have liked knockout a lot more

[@Saturnlock]

Wheelie works as a fun little repaint imo. And Legacy Knockout is my favorite version of that mold. Say what you want, I think it works great.

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

@ i’m just not really a big fan of jazz, but if they ever come out with an animated jazz, then that would work better as a knockout retool. But, the SS 86 jazz as knockout will work for now.

[@damiantaylor7993]

I agree to Arcee never was a good toy, and the quality of all transformers toys are very poor, and half arsed, but could you actually design, and engineer good versions, if so let’s see them

[@rip-off793]

Hi

[@robles4e]

I disagree I like Kingdom Tracks

[@sci-fi.tsunami]

Off-Topic 6:20 "SHE'S A ROBOT! YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE HER THAT WAY." Exactly what I've been saying about the human faces they constantly give all the charcters ever since the G1 cartoon. In the live-action movies, Optimus Prime looks totally ridiculous without his mouth guard. What the hell does he need a mouth for anyway? It's not like he's gonna be eating and chewing. *HE'S A ROBOT!* A lot of the G1 characters were ruined by the dorky human faces. G1 cartoon Bumblebee, Brawn, Gears & Trailbreaker look stupid as hell with human faces. Wheeljack is my favorite Autobot because of his awesome robot face on the G1 box. But the cartoon ruined it by giving him eyes & a nose.

[@ericbay398]

I must respectfully disagree. I enjoyed both the Generations and Animated Arcee.

[@Saturnlock]

Animated isn't G1 Arcee. And the T30 Arcee is inaccurate because of the black. (5:45)

[@VerdantRange]

Y'know what would make a good Arcee IMO? A retool of Override.