#203

[@Maleezza]

I would have to put up cinder block walls & roof filled with concrete around all the outside walls for extra sturdiness.

[@jesojeda9666]

I was in Oklahoma on May 2013 when the F5 tornado hit Moore Oklahoma... It lifted Brick homes off their foundation.. The news people showed an elderly lady coming out of her underground tornado Shelter.. My opinion is going underground is best on what I saw happened to all those brick and metal buildings above ground..

[@TKCL]

Yes the images and videos we seen were horrible. This is Florida, we don't get storms like that. Our. Most common tornado is a ef0 and ef1.

[@justinhc123]

They can’t build underground in Florida. That aside, this shelter is wayyy stronger than the brick and metal buildings you saw destroyed.

[@donnyflippo2781]

Im not sure it is, its being held on the foundation by drive it screws. Not being rude, just not sure it withstands 120 mph shear rating. But it might! Lol

[@ByronJuniorsworld]

Metal building ain't going nowhere build it out of metal

[@BradMyers]

Having the right tools makes the job so much easier. Between the tractor and the battery DeWalt tools, it helped make the task easier to tackle. I think you should add a small chimney to the building and in the off season from storms you could hang meat in there and turn it into a smokehouse. 😂

[@TKCL]

Those tools no doubt are making the job a lot easier. Smokehouse, that's a great idea! Let me me see if I can talk my wife into that lol. 😂

[@42lookc]

That is going to be IMMENSELY strong! Good job.

[@TKCL]

Yes it is, most people don't see it. Thanks for watching

[@canoeguy123]

Use mobile home cool seal, aka elastometric coating to seal the top then roof over it. That coating won’t blow off even it the top does.

[@TKCL]

Thanks for the tip

[@ohiorivervalleyhomestead]

Help out a guy who's spent his whole life in AZ. How well does a wood shelter hold up to tornadoes and hurricanes? When I watch the news, Tornadoes remove towns.

[@TKCL]

This is stronger than it appears. We here in Florida don't get those monster tornados you see on the news. If I lived there I'd have something underground.

[@maggietravels7969]

Concrete is the best

[@debbiebristow6501]

I hope you put in some sort of vents ! It's so tight you won't be able to breath!! This design gives me ideas for a cabin build. Thanks! great job.

[@TKCL]

Yes the plans calls for venting, although I'm going to deviate from their basic and not so good looking design.

[@aoutdoors1414]

Great work sir love the video.

[@TKCL]

Appreciate it!

[@AceofSpades-nd3hy]

75 years from now… when someone else owns this land… and they decide to “go tear down that old shed out back”…. boy will they be in for a surprise lol!

[@TKCL]

Lol 🤣🤣🤣. Going to have to burn it!

[@ByronJuniorsworld]

Thats illegal and it would take forever and metal dont burn​

[@agirlandhercows501]

great building thanks for sharing

[@TKCL]

Thanks for watching!

[@deewilliams9890]

Andrew, great job so far. It look fantastic. Like the way you let the tractor do the lifting. Work smarter, not harder!!! Hope you all have a great Thanksgiving.

[@TKCL]

Amen to that, that tractor is a back saver. Happy Thanksgiving to you too!

[@roflstomps324]

Looks great. I'd like to see the wind that will shake it.

[@TKCL]

I DON'T want to see the wind that will shake it lol. Hope I never see another tornado, but I'm sure we will see plenty of hurricanes over the years.

[@snead1]

Been thinking about building one here in Ohio. Hopefully we never have to use it but rather have it than not. Good build dude.

[@TKCL]

In ours a few hours ago here in Florida. Confirmed tornado and warnings are what we woke up to. It's nice having it.

[@snead1]

@@TKCL this year has been wild so far with all the storm cells and tornadoes. Good work man stay safe.

[@MDC2020]

I wonder what the cost of this shelter compared to a 6" concrete block shelter would be today. I'm willing to bet with the price of lumber concrete would be the cheaper option.

[@TKCL]

Lumber is back very affordable now, concrete and steel is still very high. With that said, concrete is a better choice. I salvaged most of this wood from my barn that was destroyed in a tornado.

[@bigDH123]

You're right , that structure should be there for the duration. I'll bet it wouldn't cost much to heat it in the winter lol. Thanks for the video, you are building an awesome structure there. Enjoy your holidays with your wife and family, and god bless you both.

[@TKCL]

Heat, this is Florida so it's always heated lol. Luckily it's rare we would ever need it in the winter. During the spring/summer will be the most common time and we will definitely need AC. Hope you and your family have a great holiday season, God bless you too.

[@azianspirit66]

I can see this kind of structure necessary in states that are more prone to tornados 🌪 such like Kansas, Colorado, Utah, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Wyoming...

[@TKCL]

I'd have something more substantial in those states. It should work well for our weak tornados and hurricanes in Florida.

[@mattbrodacki4980]

Maybe some versetta stone veneer siding to give it more of an old farm feel.

[@TKCL]

Oh it would, but more than I want to spend. We are going to match it up to the house with hardi board siding. Should look nice when done.

[@scottandersen420]

Why not set some forms with concrete and re bar might be cheaper?

[@TKCL]

This was all salvaged from a tornado damaged barn.

[@MrBp8888]

Looks good. Interested to see what saw blade you will use to cut the hardie board. I had a time with that stuff even with a brand new blade that was supposedly for hardie.

[@TKCL]

I'll have to dig it out, it was a blade from lowes. Did my entire last house and 1900 square ft of siding with it. It's a fantastic blade!

[@TKCL]

I found it, it's a Irwin marathon diamond tip. Excellent blade, was never supposed to last as long as I'd it. I'll keep using it until it gets dull and then buy another one.

[@garyteague9555]

People your looking at 3 layers of 2X materials plus the plywood, it’s gonna withstand a big storm , I’d say an an EF3 won’t budge this , and according to his homework they have never gotten anything bigger than that

[@TKCL]

People here wood and think traditional hollow wall homes. They cannot comprehend the strength of laminated wood 6 inches thick and solid. I guarantee that this will absorb more shock than those 1/4 inch plate wall tornado shelters everyone is tossing in their garages.

[@grimjet3601]

Great enthusiasm however....that right there is a wooden coffin....

[@TKCL]

I'm sure you make the statement while not reading the engineered plans, watching the tests in the hurricane test facility or understanding where I live. People pop those thin walled steel shelters in their home thinking because it's steel, it must be stronger 🙄. You can't comprehend the strength of laminated 6 inches thick wood.

[@grimjet3601]

@TKCL You're correct. I went straight to the comments. Then again, I'm a structural engineer for a national storm shelter company based in Oklahoma and I've seen shelters like this get blown to pieces. Fingers crossed it works in Florida.

[@TKCL]

You'd also know that we don't get those huge tornados you get in the Midwest as well. Most common is a ef0 and ef1. I'll be perfectly fine in this, meanwhile everyone else sits in a traditional home with 1/2 inch osb on the outside and sheet rock on the inside 🙄

[@grimjet3601]

@TKCL I will concede that you could make that argument based on the information given. Good show Ole chap 👦

[@prawnstar9213]

For Florida.. awesome.. so.. hurricane shelter? I kid I kid.

[@TKCL]

Yes Borat! 🙄🤣

[@ByronJuniorsworld]

By the way i believe sloped roofs are stronger

[@TheSoloAsylum]

You ever look at heavy wall metal panels? You'll see them used for things like seawalls. They are just about indestructible. Metal yards/scrap yards always have them.

[@TKCL]

Yep I know what you are talking about and even the fiberglass ones are very strong. I think my shelter is already over built lol. Hardi board siding will add a little more strength, but most importantly make it look good.

[@TheSoloAsylum]

@@TKCL yeah your walls are good, I was thinking heavy metal roofing...

[@TKCL]

Oh sorry, I totally missed that!

[@mackjenkins7721]

Man you are getting close to the end look like. I know you still got a long ways to go. It just looks like you almost done. I don't blame you it's vacation time. And you need to all the work you've been putting in. Just curious how far are you from Tallahassee? Picking up my wife and her load in Lake Charles Louisiana right now and she's got to drop a piece off in Tallahassee on Tuesday. Man It would be such a pleasure to meet you knowing I'm somewhere around you. I know your schedule is tight and mine is to got to have her load back home by Wednesday. Praying that the traffic won't be bad.

[@TKCL]

Yes still a long way to go on the shelter with all the small details. I live about 30 minutes east of Tallahassee but will be a lot farther away this week at my parents for the holidays. Actually going to try to take my truck, trailer and chainsaw for a little firewood while I'm over there. Should have a video out on that and hopefully I can make a little progress on the storm shelter roof before leaving.

[@mackjenkins7721]

@@TKCL oh man that's cool going to be 30 minutes away from you that close to you. That's awesome you going to spend the holidays with your parents and grab you some firewood while you it. You have a safe trip going to your parents house and you and your family have a Happy Thanksgiving.

[@TKCL]

Happy Thanksgiving to you too

[@mackjenkins7721]

@@TKCL thank you I appreciate that. For once I will be home instead of trucking 🚛 😎

[@markb.1259]

Love how the shelter is coming together! Are you having to keep it looking like a garden shed due to county storm shelter building code(s)? Happy T-Day to you and yours!

[@TKCL]

Lol, no thankfully building codes are quite relaxed in my area. I just want it to look a aesthetically pleasing to the eye and match other buildings. I can't stand when something looks out of place. I'm getting better with that the older I get 😏. Happy Thanksgiving

[@RGS61]

Recently new to your channel (one of the many lured in by the "DIY ice machine" posts) and really enjoying it! .. I live out in earthquake country and shear walled my house for protection .. So was surprised to see you orient your shear wall vertically versus horizontally .. Was that a decision based upon the principle of the "strength axis " needing to be perpendicular to the horizontal runs of laminated timbers, or more an economic decision to optimize coverage at the lowest cost, given the solid wall versus stud construction?

[@TKCL]

It was based off of actual engineered and tested plans (see video description). We are also in Florida, no earthquakes here. Regardless of how you orient, it's extremely strong. Wood has a fantastic ability to absorb shock. Thank you for your watching!

[@alaskahermithomesteader9549]

Needs to be made out of concrete and under ground. That is just a coffin. Spoken from someone who has been thru many tornados in Eastern Nebraska.

[@TKCL]

You are also speaking as someone from an area that's not mine (constantly mentioned in this series) . We don't get Nebraska size tornados in Florida and you do NOT build anything underground in our climate. It will be absolutely flooded, moldy and rotten.

[@siriosstar4789]

@alaska doesn't need to be concrete , just under ground . a plastic septic tank or water tank will do just fine

[@donsayre4333]

Where are you located? Just joined your channel. Very cool. I looking to get a 4066r also. Do you like that tractor?

[@TKCL]

We are in North Central Florida. I love my 4066R, have just over 400 hours on it. Look around the channel, I have a bunch of videos using it. Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@ragibby6557]

If you want it to last a lifetime the you should have built it with poured, reinforced concrete.

[@TKCL]

So apparently all the wood framed homes don't last? 🤷

[@RGibson-z6r]

​@@TKCLA wood structure without heat, air conditioning, humidity control, regular care will not last a lifetime. Just look at homes abandoned after just a few years.

[@maggietravels7969]

The wood will fly

[@garymathena2125]

I would not trust my life to a pile of wood, the first time a airborne car hits it. Well, say hello to St Peter.

[@TKCL]

Let me guess, you trust your life to house walls that are hollow with 1/2 inch osb on the outside and sheet rock on the inside 🙄. And FYI we don't get car tossing monster tornados in Florida.

[@bryanhauschild4376]

Instead of plywood, what if I put brick on the outside to match the house?

[@TKCL]

That plywood is a critical component, it's acting as a hurricane strap connecting all timbers together. I would brick over the plywood.

[@Jerry-cp2uj]

No offense, but as a previous poster said, that is just a coffin. Tornadoes have been able to rip metal structural beams right out from concrete or from the shear force of the winds breaks the anchors to the concrete at shear point. You would want to either turn that into a Dome where the wind will basically blow right over or even better, get couple tons of dirt and bury that thing.

[@TKCL]

No offense but this is Florida, we don't get those kinds of tornados. It's mentioned a lot in this series. You don't bury anything here due to the rain and water.

[@TheRealHatchwood]

​@@TKCLSo it's not for Tornados just for Hurricanes and also depending where you located during the Hurricane.

[@10000Islands]

I would think it needs to be underground.

[@TKCL]

You can't do that in wet and rainy Florida.

[@TheSoloAsylum]

Needs a gun port on each side, that way you can at least get a few shots off at the tornado.

[@TKCL]

Lol, great tip! I'll start cutting those ports immediately.

[@skipgrumblis]

Use screws instead of nails. Nails will pull out.

[@williamabaker12]

Unless you're using structural screws, they have FAR less sheer strength than nails. Ideally you should use both, which I'm sure he actually said that's what he did.

[@williamabaker12]

Not to mention, gluing those together gives the same rigidity as screws, maybe more. Once that stuff dries, the two pieces are essentially one.

[@NM88310]

that link doesnt seem to be working

[@TKCL]

Here it is www.homeinnovation.com/-/media/Files/Reports/The-Wood-Tornado-Shelter-Construction-Guide-November-2018.pdf

[@NM88310]

Thank you sir

[@a807511]

Lot of work, time, and money for something that's way too far from the house, and wouldn't BEGIN to protect you from a mild tornado.

[@TKCL]

I'll just do like everyone else and sit in my thin, hollow wall sheet rock house next time. That's for sure stronger than this. 🙄

[@firebird4548]

Wind rating? 200 plus?

[@TKCL]

250 MPH according to the engineered plans, rated for EF5 tornados. Thank God we do not get anything that strong here, otherwise I'd be underground.

[@TKCL]

I just put the plans in the video description, meant to do that.

[@vvendetta6656]

Would you sit inside that and let someone crash a truck driving 150 mph into it? Because i wouldnt. With the price of lumber I can't imagine this being that much cheaper than just buying an actual storm shelter.

[@TKCL]

Your wrong.... And we don't get those truck tossing tornados in Florida as mentioned so many times throughout this series.

[@vvendetta6656]

@TKCL if you don't get strong tornadoes then what is the point of building this? Hurricanes? If so hurricane force winds can get up to 150 mph+

[@TKCL]

@@vvendetta6656 you don't have to inform me of hurricanes. Born and raised in Florida for 40 years. I trust this over any stick built home in this state. 6 inch thick solid laminated walls is far stronger than you realize.

[@bburnette252]

Sitting here imaging what all of this lumber would cost from the store in April of 2022

[@TKCL]

Couldn't imagine, no way I could afford to build it. Luckily the majority of it was salvaged.

[@AdamDeal-KF0PRI]

fort knox storm shelters! mother nature blows you know where to go!

[@TKCL]

You're going old school!

[@AdamDeal-KF0PRI]

@@TKCL yes sir only cause its been recomending them so ive been watching them. alot of videos i have seen that i didnt give the thumbs up. shane on me lol!

[@TKCL]

Don't judge me for the old flip flop content.

[@AdamDeal-KF0PRI]

@@TKCL lol hey ill leave that for the other guys! im the guy that wears shorts in the winter time unless its way to cold like today!

[@andyr8625]

I'll go out on a limb here and say it's not FEMA approved 😂

[@TKCL]

You'd be quite wrong in your assumptions. I'm going out on a limb and say you took zero time to read the engineered plans, the storm facility tests, ratings and more.

[@andyr8625]

@@TKCL You'd be wiped out,lol...

[@teveler]

Just kidding here, but are you building a storm shelter or a bomb shelter! :)

[@TKCL]

Maybe both lol, ya never know.

[@freethinker5039]

With the price of lumber this makes me cringe

[@TKCL]

Now it does! This was built earlier last year with salvaged lumber from our building that blew down in a tornado.