Everyone: Why should we vote for you? Labour: We're not the Tories Everyone: True tbf
@oli08083 ай бұрын
Less votes than Corbyn got. Isn't FPTP great?
@Headhand-qd9so3 ай бұрын
Labour lost votes in plenty of places only winning because people voted reform over conservative. Victory by default they are not who the people want.
@tomlxyz3 ай бұрын
Really disappointing how voting became a system of voting against instead of for
@OmniversalInsect3 ай бұрын
@@tomlxyz It's easier to see which party has failed than to research which party would be the best option.
@ThePainqT3 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the last german election .
@wojtekpolska10133 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="371">6:11</a> "Assemble his first cabinet" * shows a man assembling an IKEA cabinet *
@BrendanP3 ай бұрын
Good choice for b-roll footage 😂
@Luzgan3 ай бұрын
Haha, I had to rewind, because my eyes were like "wait what?" haha.
@foxyboiiyt33323 ай бұрын
Well there are gonna be many MPs left over that we dont know where they go! Just like IKEA
@AshishKumar-qi5gk3 ай бұрын
AI😂
@Haroldthecheeseman3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@allenmontrasio89623 ай бұрын
Tories lost because they were crap at government.
@krisdaschwab9123 ай бұрын
Always have been.
@Skygrey29433 ай бұрын
Their only reason for existing is for increasing the amount of money and wealth the rich have. By those metrics, they've certainly done their job.
@lervish19663 ай бұрын
Politicians don't control everything.
@kharnt.betrayer29463 ай бұрын
Isn't that the basic point of democracy?
@stuffmcstuff3993 ай бұрын
yup that's how, generally, a party gets voted out of office. By not being good enough.
@danielschick75543 ай бұрын
I've never seen a man so happy about losing his job than Rishi
@Root777Beer3 ай бұрын
The guy is just happy he wont be blamed for the country's problems for the next 5 years
@jarthur50943 ай бұрын
And he won’t have to age 20 years in three
@antontsau3 ай бұрын
he made his job. Destroyed everything. Mission accomplished.
@Faliat3 ай бұрын
Didn't see Gordon Brown.
@peach-tea3 ай бұрын
@@Root777Beer 5 years
@annabethchase25693 ай бұрын
Funnier still, the Lettuce lost her seat. In 2 years she went from Foreign secretary to Prime minister to International laughing stock to not even being able to get elected to her seat
@informitas01173 ай бұрын
As a Scandinavian, I just like to confirm that you are correct that everyone laughs at her, all over.
@cdw24683 ай бұрын
as an american i have heard a handful of liz truss jokes too, even though our political system is also a joke
@1346790073 ай бұрын
I'm googling this Lettuce MP... Yup, a picture of a lettuce.
@1995pieter3 ай бұрын
Netherlands here. correct we laughed hard at the Lettuce
What’s interesting is the combined vote share of the two big parties. In 2017, Tories + Labour weighed more than 80% of the vote ; in 2024 only about 55%. That makes the discrepancy between the vote share and the number of seats much more glaring.
@danielschick75543 ай бұрын
A lot of people simply stayed home and didn't vote. Even with a Baath Party margin Labor is still going act like Tory Lite even though they have the ability to do some good.
@reksapluss7163 ай бұрын
@@danielschick7554 So what? "of the vote" not of the total population
@han0903 ай бұрын
Ironically, both reform and the conservative party would have done better if it weren't for the flawed FPTP system.
@Anonyomus_commenter3 ай бұрын
@@han090Literally everyone except Labour would have done better if it wasn’t for FPTP- some less (lib Dems would only gain a few) and some more (Reform would gain hundreds)
@Squishy_avocado3 ай бұрын
@@Anonyomus_commenter you also need to consider many people voted tactically this time instead of just throwing their vote away (many Reform voters did this -- voted for them even though they weren't anywhere near close to winning an area). I'm sure there's a decent portion of non-tory supporters who voted libs to secure their seat and ensure the tories didn't get it.
@docredzal3 ай бұрын
Can't wait for CGP Grey to make another video about winning 32-34% popular vote means you form the government
@In_Purple_Clad3 ай бұрын
Hear hear. FPTP was dumb I 2010 and it's even dumber now. Everyone needs to see the CGP Grey videos (Edited for spelling and grammer)
@alansmithee4193 ай бұрын
@@In_Purple_Clad And everyone needs to never mention the alternative vote in serious conversation again XD.
@adamhenrywalker2 ай бұрын
@@In_Purple_CladNo they do not
@adamhenrywalker2 ай бұрын
This comment should be interpreted as an attack against that moronic hack CP grey
@In_Purple_Clad2 ай бұрын
@@adamhenrywalker care to elaborate and explain why?
@UIM_Moose3 ай бұрын
Funniest thing Sunak said was that the UK is in a better financial position now than in 2010... like what fucking planet is he on?
@goldenhate66493 ай бұрын
World economic forums...
@nadie80933 ай бұрын
Tbf between 2008-2014 all of Europe was in terrible financial shape
@ToaArcan3 ай бұрын
@@nadie8093 "The UK is in a better financial position than it was shortly after the worst financial crash since the Great Depression." Well it would be hard to be _worse_ than that.
@nathangamble1253 ай бұрын
This planet. It's a disagreement about what "better financial position" means. To normal people, "better financial position" means "low inflation and cost of living. Good opportunities for jobs and affordable housing". To Tories, "better financial position" means "the rich get richer". Sunak isn't wrong, he's just evil.
@gm24073 ай бұрын
Sunak: We removed your feet from the fire, it's better now. Electorate: You cut them off at the knee, no anesthetic and we are waiting for prosthetics since then.
@dralseth3 ай бұрын
Absolute machines. To end a stream at 11pm and already have a video out before 10am the following day. Well done team
@dariusftw33783 ай бұрын
Nice job team
@connorriddle3 ай бұрын
They ended the stream at 11pm? So they just discussed the exit poll? I thought they were going to be live throughout the night?
@Eltener1233 ай бұрын
Most news outlets streamed through the night and had deeper analysis throughout...
@smaaack3 ай бұрын
@@Eltener123it’s impressive because they only have about 11 staff members whereas the big news channels have a large team of analysts, journalists, production crew, etc.
@connorriddle3 ай бұрын
@@Eltener123 Exactly, and those coverages aren’t behind a paywall. I assumed with them being a paywall that the stream would be longer than an hour
@matteo234323 ай бұрын
Finally we had an election where a great number of people voted for parties other than the main two, or for complete independents. And this is with a lot of people voting for the main two because of the fear of 'wasting' their vote.
@roncatton71013 ай бұрын
Yeah most were weak minded limp lettuces who cannot use their own minds. Most probably only just chose Labour at last minute because they were scared little bunnies to vote outside their usual prehistoric boxes.. Wimps like these are what ruins our country. At least other European nations like France have the balls for change!
@elindred3 ай бұрын
Exactly this. Voting 'strategically' is wasting your only way to signal your priorities.
@niblet1123 ай бұрын
Shows people are waking up. Now starmer will wake the rest, when he becomes a tyrant we all know he is
@jacquelineithell3073 ай бұрын
No after years by the two parties , and slow hidden , deliberate , dictatorships , and political corruption we are too frightened to vote otherwise , they have citizens right in the Palm of their hands
@Leeds713 ай бұрын
@@niblet112 I'm glad there are others that see this - fail to see the victory here, a controlled party with no restrictions, that'll be good for the UK.
@zenfar18923 ай бұрын
Jeremy Corbyn 2019 = 10,295,912 = 203 seats Keir Starmer 2024 = 9,712,011 = 412 seats Rishi Sunak 2024 = 6,814,469 = 121 seats Nigel Farage 2024 = 4,091,549 = 4 seats Ed Davey 2024 = 3,696,419 = 71 seats John Swinney 2024 = 708,759 = 9 seats Yeah the Uks system is fucked.
@belindalucas54683 ай бұрын
Only Reform UK is willing to address the issue
@HCCatherine9613 ай бұрын
The constituencies changed and amount of people actually voting varies
@oliviax7273 ай бұрын
@@belindalucas5468every other minor party is willing to address the issue. Reform isn't special
@AnonymousCaveman3 ай бұрын
Green, reform, TUSC and some labour MPs are deciding to put forward electoral reform for PR
@charlesunderwood63343 ай бұрын
The LibDEms have been campaigning against this for years. There was a vote on changing the voting system some time ago, but I bet none of the Reform voters now complaining voted for it then.
@MrDadyD3 ай бұрын
You forgot the best thing of all!!!! Jacob Rees-Mogg (the gentleman from the 1800 century) lost his seat!
@literallyjustgrass3 ай бұрын
oh hell yeah
@Chalize3 ай бұрын
Liz truss lost her seat as well.
@Lara__3 ай бұрын
Not a gentleman
@nowgrownup2 ай бұрын
Mogg has a 300 million fortune do you think he is bothered all you lot will be scrimping and trying to make ends meet under a labour government Mogg won't..So who is laughing at who 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@MrDadyD2 ай бұрын
@@nowgrownup im glad you are here to defend him
@Vtarngpb3 ай бұрын
No news outlets mentioning Lettuce Truss got a slow clap 🤷🏼♂️🤣
@Eltener1233 ай бұрын
It was on BBC, they mentioned it several times during election coverage
@generaldisarray61473 ай бұрын
Sky news also
@Ollay2453 ай бұрын
Hopefully this will mean any relevancy she had remaining will fade into the wind... Like a bad fart
@paulleverton95693 ай бұрын
Really? Need to see that.
@RUTHLESSambition53 ай бұрын
The curse of zelensky is very real. Everyone who backed him paid a heavy price
@markjoseph1963 ай бұрын
“ Larry the Cat “ won the seat uncontested 🐈
@BromideBride3 ай бұрын
Unlikely without photo ID
@Silverwidows3 ай бұрын
I would vote for larry
@jbshiva8653 ай бұрын
@@BromideBride Like the Monarch, the Chief Mouser does not require photo ID, their own face is enough for identification.
@stand3553 ай бұрын
Rishi for prison
@BromideBride3 ай бұрын
@@jbshiva865 no ID, no representation - we only have room for one effigy on the currency.
@RJH7553 ай бұрын
As a Kiwi watching this election I find it crazy that Starmer can win a 400+ seat majority with 33.8% of the vote while Corbyn in 2017 only won 232 seats with 40%, and as much as I detest Reform UK they only win 4 seats with 14.3% while Lib Dems win 71 with 12.2%... Ya'll need proportional representation!
@Cradien3 ай бұрын
A kiwi saying "y'all" just isn't right
@catcatcattac-d7c3 ай бұрын
If the electoral system changes, the campaigning changes as well. I don't think the results would have been too different.
@liamcollins91833 ай бұрын
The Lib Dems share of seats was about 11%, so pretty close to their share of the vote, but other than that, I agree, the votes to seats ratios were very distorted by FPTP.
@blackroseangel1233 ай бұрын
It's funny, right wingers are now only complaining about FPTP since they didn't win, but going PR would basically cement the left in power indefinitely as we have way more left leaning parties getting a combined total over 50% pretty much every time.
@johnhawkins53143 ай бұрын
Honestly yeah, same with UKIP all those years ago. If these voters were not so dissatisfied with FPTP then I honestly think Reform would get a small bump in seats, but then die down.
@seamusmckeon91093 ай бұрын
Lizz Truss’ story reminds me of Kim Campbell’s story in Canada. They were both deeply unpopular leaders of floundering parties in their respective countries, and were promptly ousted from their chairs as PM
@ajorbista2 ай бұрын
Her successor in her seat (who defeated her in 1993) is expected to lose her seat to the Conservatives when the next election happens. The Canadian Liberals are toast next election 💀😂
@roll63313 ай бұрын
Cat walks by... Cat walks back... Cat get pets.
@davidty20063 ай бұрын
it is mandated.
@frostyw3 ай бұрын
Came here to mention the Cat. ^_^
@eris90623 ай бұрын
Larry is clearly the best option for PM
@neviamuktar3 ай бұрын
Meow
@frocco71253 ай бұрын
:3 Kitty!
@daviddavies36373 ай бұрын
And, of course, Wales forgotten again. For those who are interested, here are the headlines: Tories wiped out for first time since 2001. A shock result on Ynys Mon. Not because of the result nationally, which expected the Tory vote to collapse, but because for the first time in its history, the island ejected a sitting MP and went from the Tories to Plaid Cymru. Had it not been for Reform taking 3,000 votes, it's likely that the Tories would have held onto it. Plaid Cymru gained two seats but also, significantly, appear to have increased their share of the vote in every constituency. Surprisingly, Labour's share of the vote dropped in many, if not most, of the seats in Wales. Possibly a hangover with the fact that they've been in power in Wales too long themselves?
@neptune15253 ай бұрын
Sorry Wales! ☹️
@xx-wp3mq3 ай бұрын
What's new? - Disliked the video for this exact reason. I swear every English person really wants to be a Scott. They never shut up and Scotland.
@ShajiMathew-dx8by2 ай бұрын
Brother nobody cares
@sm901ftw3 ай бұрын
While I'm personally happy with the result, looking at the vote share vs seat share really does highlight just how messed up FPTP is. Lib Dems are right to be pushing for a change there, though I doubt labour will agree given the circumstances.
@iamjamie95623 ай бұрын
Ironically the Lib Dems had one of the most proportional seat to vote comparisons. (71 vs 78? with PR) Reform got more votes but roughly 5% of LD seats (4), the same number as the half as popular green party.
@anonglakmoonwicha27263 ай бұрын
The UK is now finished. Odd to find happiness in that.
@saberswordsmen13 ай бұрын
@@anonglakmoonwicha2726 melodrama is unbecoming.
@Silverwidows3 ай бұрын
FPTP benefitted labour and lib dem this time, because lots of tory voters jumped ship and voted reform, so the right wing vote was split. In other elections it could work against them if say there's one tory candidate and one from labour, one from lib dem. Labour lib dem vote will be split, most likely giving the seat to the tories, even though more left wing people voted. It was like that where I live in the last election. The tory won by 1,000 votes, with the left wing vote split between lib dem and labour.
@TheWorkmonkey13 ай бұрын
They won't be complaining anymore. They get less votes than Reform but 67 more seats. They should be careful what they wish for...
@capapan.3 ай бұрын
Chief Mouser Larry probably has a fair shot for tory leadership.
@DarklordZagarna3 ай бұрын
Dedicated civil servant that he is, I understand he's staying in office under the new government.
@ivankolinic56792 ай бұрын
Hes not as toxic like braverman and patel
@andrepoon3 ай бұрын
I once worked with someone who told me the importance of “FU money”… meaning that if all turned to shit at work… he had enough money to walk away and not have a care in the world. The conservatives failed to realise that Sunak came from a such a position.
@shosc163 ай бұрын
But at the same time, why would you take on such a job if you have FU money. You wouldn’t. I wouldn’t.
@DansChan9953 ай бұрын
I always liked the idea of FU money as a way of saying I now have enough so FU to this horrible grinding labor I might be doing. But more often those with FU money are the ones making the people at the bottom work even harder?
@goodlookinouthomie17573 ай бұрын
You have to wonder. If I had FU money then last thing I'd want to do is be prime minister.
@blackjacktrial3 ай бұрын
@@goodlookinouthomie1757depends. Some want to turn money into power (see: Berlusconi in Italy, Trump probably (assuming he had money at some stage), Turnbull in Australia, Bloomberg, etc.)
@bengoacher44553 ай бұрын
Sunak wasn't the probelm. The problem was Braverman and Patel and the rest of the far right of the conservative party threatening to rebel unless Sunak carried on with the hubris and self destructive policy decisions. They went from the firm but fair party to the evil crony party and Sunak was the fall guy. I wish Sunak all the best in California and think he would've made a fantastic PM if Boris didn't proceed him.
@Raky24273 ай бұрын
That assemble his first cabinet gag had me rolling 😂
@JackChurchill1013 ай бұрын
Late night editor with their fourth beer
@malcolmwallis43 ай бұрын
Talking as a true labour - ass-emble them!
@christopherhumphrys73983 ай бұрын
now we need rid of the first past the post system!
@srjwari3 ай бұрын
Yes, and its going to take 4 years of everyone voting reform and convincing others to give reform a go. Labour know this , so likely will be trying hard to keep power through sabatage campaigns
@nathanwhitehouse82373 ай бұрын
No. Keep it. It protects against small parties getting too much power.
@huwgrossmith95553 ай бұрын
Any other system can take a very long to count and often results in it taking a long time for a coalition government to form that flies apart faster than it took to form. Compulsory voting should be considered.
@nathanwhitehouse82373 ай бұрын
@srjwari Reform are the worst party currently. It's rife with discrimination and lies.
@freddiemedley55803 ай бұрын
And why is that a bad thing?@@nathanwhitehouse8237
@KaiserMattTygore9273 ай бұрын
"Assemble his first cabinet" *Shows a guy putting a literal cabinet together*
@malcolmwallis43 ай бұрын
I hope hi did read a mannual.😆
@agbook20073 ай бұрын
@@malcolmwallis4, technically there aren’t any words in IKEA manuals. 🤣
@flyingstonemon35642 ай бұрын
@@agbook2007 Yeah they went for hieroglyphics instead
@McKlunkers3 ай бұрын
Sunak is the best Labour supporter this country has ever had 😂
@namesbinge30733 ай бұрын
😂😂 He's a spy.
@TalesOfTheRiverBank3 ай бұрын
On the contrary, I think Nigel Farage and the Reform party can take that accolade. Sir Keir Starmer probably couldn't believe his luck when Farage decided to participate. The opinion polls yet again under estimated the Tory vote and over estimated the Labour vote. The gap between the parties is 10%, not the 15-20+% that most polls were indicating. In the actual election Reform polled 14% nationally. I think it is pretty clear that they did Labour a huge favour. IMHO they were the difference between a hung parliament and the result we got. As an aside, I don't think a 174 seat majority on 33.7% of the vote is a particularly good advertisement for our voting system.
@Vanity-Man3 ай бұрын
Labour got 2.3x the votes of Reform and got 103x the number of seats. Conservatives got 1.6x the votes of Reform and got 30x the number of seats. Lib Dems got 85% as many votes as Reform and got almost 18x as many seats. I don't think it matters who you support because this is a matter that should be important to anybody who wants there to be more than just 2 dominating parties - it's very clear that First Past The Post is failing the democratic vote of the population and needs to be changed for a system that gives more people an equal say.
@bigships3 ай бұрын
The Lib Dem’s got almost a proportional number of seats compared to their vote share, if we had PR, reform would have gotten 80 or so
@maximumbrexit45033 ай бұрын
Well thank god it worked against Farage for us on this day
@Charlielinja3 ай бұрын
Agree- compared to Corbyn's Labour, Kier got only 1.6% more votes but somehow 209 more seats.
@joshmarsh25323 ай бұрын
@bigships If we has PR lots of individual people wanting to stand for election would choose to run as a smaller party. If your like Labour but your pro-EU you'd run as a Lib Dem, if you like Labour but the enviroment is very important to you you'd run under the Greens. The small parties would pull even more voters and canditates from the two main ones because Labour and the Tories wouldn't have to have such wide differences in policy within their own parties. They'd effectively split
@Parasmunt3 ай бұрын
PR would be of little help to Reform as they are transfer toxic.
@BIGDZ83463 ай бұрын
Most interesting fact is that Labour went from 32.2% of the vite to only 33.8%. Not even 34% and you get a super majority. Democratic much? Only reasonnthey won is because Conservatives went from 43.6 to 23.8 so actually only 10% less than Labour. People didn't really vote for Labour so much so as they voted against the Conservatives.
@Anverse-143 ай бұрын
Lmao In the end, Corbyn's shadow will never leave the Labor I hope there's a new Corbyn that will lead the party again in the future.
@kimwit13073 ай бұрын
True that. The FPTP system is reall quite undemocratic IMO. And basically all starmer had to do what just let the tories destroy themselves. He followed the rule of 'never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake' very well.
@RealOGfikey3 ай бұрын
We don't deal with concepts like "supermajority". That's an American thing which the tories used as a scare tactic. It didn't work. 🤣🤣
@thecaptain53443 ай бұрын
This might be the most unrepresentative parliament we've had... ever. Labour got 33.8% of the vote and 63.4% of the seats. Conservatives got 23.7% of the vote and 18.5% of the seats. Liberal Democrats got 12.2% of the vote and 10.9% of the seats. Worst of all, by far, is Reform UK. They got 14.3% of the vote (over 4 million votes!), and got a measly 0.6% of the seats. I might not like their policies, but that kind of disparity is exactly why voters are disengaged from our politics - our voice doesn't actually matter.
@jamalrs173 ай бұрын
A supermajority is an American term. We don’t really have those in the UK. They just have a majority. But your correct, who can blame the populous in fairness, the cons were horrific at times
@EthelJung-j5w3 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="165">2:45</a> should be noted, the man in charge of the exit poll said reform was their most
@MarcusAgapus3 ай бұрын
I like how at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="303">5:03</a> "There are particularly strong candidates" they show the cat. Probably the best choice ngl
@kristoffermangila3 ай бұрын
Meow!
@malcolmwallis43 ай бұрын
I think it is some kind of a trick - then some sh8t happens they show an animals or some flora.
@thevanityproject64803 ай бұрын
Insanely impressive you managed to produce this in such a short time frame by the way. I bet you're bloody knackered.
@connorjmcdermott3 ай бұрын
Very strange of you to describe the green’s performance as ‘didn’t have a terrible night’ they did very well considering their realistic goals and achieved everything they set out to. They won the highest number of seats they ever have, won every seat they were actively targeting and increased their vote share.
@johnhanson59433 ай бұрын
Not impressive considering Big Brother uses / supports these political green (UN green) most - with huge resources.
@Lixadellic3 ай бұрын
They are just being British 😄 They once described a scenario where Putin launches a nuclear bomb as “not quite ideal”.
@NataliePine3 ай бұрын
@@johnhanson5943Are you joking? The Greens barely got any attention during the run up, while everyone rushed to report every time Nigel Farage scratched his head
@mutteringmale3 ай бұрын
a greenie is noting more than a lazy person who can't do math and science and thus expects the government to subsidize their fantasy life.
@Fs3i3 ай бұрын
@@johnhanson5943 that's why they're so successful with - checks notes - 4 seats. Wow, great use of resources, if that's true. Like, if your "big brother" is so weak that they only can get 4 seats, what the heck are you afraid of?
@pleasantness17042 ай бұрын
Somewhere out there, Boris is letting out a HUGE sigh of relief realizing getting forced to quit early was the much more preferable way to leave office office in the end 😂
@hrast41093 ай бұрын
Sad it wasn't actually "zero seats" but good enough I guess
@srjwari3 ай бұрын
Agree and im conservative.. but realistically there are always those who will never change their vote. I voted reform it was that or stay blue. I will not vote labour as they dont represent the working class. With that said, labour gov likely wont make it past 5 years based on the general mood of the public.
@Talisguy3 ай бұрын
@@srjwari Reform doesn't represent the working class either.
@srjwari3 ай бұрын
@@Talisguy it doesnt Not either... Labour used too... decades ago.
@dariusftw33783 ай бұрын
@@Talisguy Why should a political party only represent one group of people? Isn't the point to represent everybody, or at least the majority?
@TheBalfrog3 ай бұрын
@@Talisguy While i'm not a reform voter, the increase of tax free allowance to £20k would have been the best win for working class, as would writing off student loans of nurses/doctors been huge. Now would reform have actually done this? Probably not, but their manifesto was pretty good for the working class.
@topspduk3 ай бұрын
Labour: 412 seats with 9.68mil votes. Reform: only 4 seats with 4.09mil votes. Something doesn't add up.
@battlep0t3 ай бұрын
FPTP. We have this discourse every election. Corbyn got more votes in 2017 than Starmer did this election.
@soundscape263 ай бұрын
You gotta win your constituency.
@simoncox96893 ай бұрын
adds up just fine
@hti57953 ай бұрын
FPTP for you
@Hardcore_Remixer3 ай бұрын
The "beauty" of FPTP which would allow you to govern even with less than 10% if you got more than any other party.
@neil19823 ай бұрын
Good riddance Rishi! It does still baffle me how the voting system works though... Reform 4m votes and only 4 seats, Lib Dems 3.5m votes, 71 seats! I know it's seperated by constituency but my gosh you get half a million more votes than another party but end up 67 seats short of them. Insanity.
@info_dash3133 ай бұрын
It's not baffling at all. If you don't have concentrated votes to win actual seats in constituencies then you don't gain an MP. Quite simple
@SEAZNDragon3 ай бұрын
Likely depends on the votes per seat vs total votes nationwide.
@theotherohlourdespadua11313 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, MP's are elected per electoral district and not nationwide...
@FRIDGEYTHEGOAT3 ай бұрын
its because the lib dems have got their stuff together and know what they're doing. they know how to win seats not just minds.
@SammyInnit3 ай бұрын
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Nothing gets past you, does it. I think OPs point was the lack of fair representation under FPTP.
@mk1st3 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="372">6:12</a> “assemble his first cabinet”😂🤣😂
@spaghetti03563 ай бұрын
Yippie! the slightly less Irradiated Water Party won against the Chernobyl Water Party!
@apexinstinct3 ай бұрын
Ikr
@aurelienscheurer27503 ай бұрын
Hi, could you explain why is this not a victory ? Is there a more leftist / progressive / worker party in england ? Or is UK fate to stay liberal and pro Israël for ever ? Im not english.
@nevillesmith4263 ай бұрын
@@aurelienscheurer2750 Like the Democrats in the USA are corporate warmongering centrists with some progressive window dressing, the current brand of "Labour" is not much different than the Tories in any substantive way.
@teecee18273 ай бұрын
@@aurelienscheurer2750to get that result, Labour became far more centrist and even leaning right on some issues to court the conservative vote. It's a shift of their alignment to the right really.
@nk71333 ай бұрын
@@aurelienscheurer2750look into Green party.
@elvyynn3 ай бұрын
23.7% of the electorate looked at the current government and said "yes, more of that please" Blows my mind
@Colin6233 ай бұрын
I know its a weird voting system though, how can you get just 35% of the voting public and end up with 70% of the parliamentary seats ? Totally undemocratic.
@elriano13 ай бұрын
NPC's who vote Tory every election because that's what their family have always done. Plenty of them vote Labour for the same reasons. People who vote like this shouldn't be allowed to vote, we all suffer because of their ignorance.
@Patrick-y4d1z3 ай бұрын
There's more to it than that. There's this woman I work with - her grandparents have a house up for sale for £1.2 million. In 2016, it was £525,000. So it has gained £700,000 in like 7/8 years - which is far more than I'll ever be able to save. The younger generations, who're paying more than ever for housing, food and getting shafted with stagnant salaries, we all said FU to the Conservatives. But you've got to remember there's another demographic who got all the benefits of a Conservative government. They're not voting in the interest of the working population, but the old decrepit population who're sucking the wealth from the young.
@bigships3 ай бұрын
@@Colin623 technically a party could win every seat in the country with only 650 votes more than the opposition
@hihowareyouhihowareyou45003 ай бұрын
What’s the problem?
@Ebbagull3 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="370">6:10</a> "..assemble his first cabinet" 😂 Love the choice of imagery!
@DelaneyGilfillan2 ай бұрын
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@Charlotte038492 ай бұрын
You work for 42yrs to have $2m in your retirement, Meanwhile some people are putting just $20k in a meme coin for just few months and now they are multi millionaires. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life
@annelie7182 ай бұрын
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@francisonyige96182 ай бұрын
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@saniusman58302 ай бұрын
Thanks to Mrs Maria Davis.
@saniusman58302 ай бұрын
She's a licensed broker here in the states
@fujivato3 ай бұрын
Not voting Tories was sensible, voting Labour was just spiteful 🤣
@aw25843 ай бұрын
But Labour barely got any more votes than in last election. Like 1.5% more. Its Tory electorate not bothering to vote at all, and then Reform taking away millions of their voters whilst only getting like 4 seats.
@informitas01173 ай бұрын
I agree with anything you say if you have a red panda as pfp
@RestitutorEuropa3 ай бұрын
Labour only got 2/3 of the vote. It’s going to be one of the most unpopular governments in recent history.
@drhotp3nis3 ай бұрын
@@informitas0117how nice of u
@kennethhodges31873 ай бұрын
Voting Reform was even worse!!
@oussamajebali33793 ай бұрын
I enjoyed how kind the police officer was to the cat! If I was a British citizen I would have voted for that man.
@DarklordZagarna3 ай бұрын
I'd have voted for the cat if the alternative was Liz Truss and Kemi Badenoch.
@jaye203 ай бұрын
I hope the public will get the change they want. I do not foresee much of a change given the position of Labour on Brexit, environment, and taxes.
@SammyInnit3 ай бұрын
I voted Labour to rid us of the tories, but there will be little change if any at all. Both the tories and labour had signed up to 18bn worth of cuts to public services in a bid to draw down debt so Labour will only deliver minor change. It's going to be a rough 5 years.
@anofsti3 ай бұрын
It's like everywhere else in Europe. Vote SoDem and you'll have a gradual decline. Vote Tory and you'll plunge into a dystopia within two decades
@davidty20063 ай бұрын
well everything is bloody broke and an Atlee sized job there is to do...
@RMProjects7853 ай бұрын
How to fix the country: -Rejoin the EU, with Freedom of Movement and eventual integration into Schengen Area -Tax on 95% of all land value -Repeal Town and Country Planning Act -Dissolve irrelevant government agencies, bureaucracy, and regulation -Huge investment into social programs and infrastructure paid by cuts and taxes elsewhere -Set up special economic zones and business incentives with the goal of creating as much economic growth and entrepreneurship as possible -Create a new 'Ministry of Demographics' with the goal of increasing the national birth rate -Abolish the House of Lords and replace it with a proportionally elected house of representatives -Reorganise the country into local regions that will handle local administration. This will also replace devolved assemblies like the Senedd and Scottish Parliament -Prioritise high-skilled immigration; if you get a degree in a STEM subject you should be handed UK citizenship on a silver platter -Do everything in our power to build a large tech sector with the goal of effectively utilising AI and other new technologies -Educational system with the goal of creating the most productive, highly skilled workforce, while also being educated in a broad range of fields -Renationalise water and energy. Rail will be under a Japanese-style group of private companies overseen by the government that don't compete with each other and also own the railways, stations, and land around their operations, with the goal of these companies to also be property developers. All under one transport brand -A national culture of having a beautiful society, building the best we can. A lot more volunteering programs as an example to keep communities tidy and beautiful. Inspire people to find solutions to our problems, not endlessly moan and while about them
@MrManBuzz3 ай бұрын
@@davidty2006Unfortunately, Starmer is not Atlee. But I'd love to be proved very wrong in that.
@leahsmith43102 ай бұрын
Is anyone else who's watching from America realize that we have a two-party system and everyone else has several parties to choose from, meeting several varied opinions with different voting policies and such? We have not allowed that
@otocan3 ай бұрын
Very impressive that you managed to get out a video of this quality so quickly.
@venusforfran3 ай бұрын
probably had the graphics ready and then it was just a case of putting in the data and filming the talking :)
@niblet1123 ай бұрын
Pre planned. Just like the results.
@otocan3 ай бұрын
@@niblet112 you're not only wrong, you're boring. Please go somewhere else.
@R4Y73 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="165">2:45</a> should be noted, the man in charge of the exit poll said reform was their most uncertain
@benjaminterrell9983 ай бұрын
Been looking forward to this video all morning
@dariusftw33783 ай бұрын
Christ how early do you wake up
@Teag_Brohman153 ай бұрын
congratulations to Sinn Fein for getting the most seats in Northern Ireland! they didn't gain a new seat, but they still came out on top!!
@grantorino23253 ай бұрын
26 + 6 = 1
@FlatDerrick3 ай бұрын
Notice how all the pro Reform Yank commenters are silent on that one.
@MarkFugitive-3 ай бұрын
The north of Ireland. The Unionists also have less seats than Irish nationalists and the DUP are falling apart. 😊
@DarklordZagarna3 ай бұрын
I mean, did they get them, actually?
@MarkFugitive-3 ай бұрын
@@DarklordZagarna well they'll never sit in Westminster if that's what you're asking.
@kshah17113 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="302">5:02</a> "while it's a little soon to tell, there are some candidates that are in a particularly strong position right now" *proceeds to show Larry walking across the door* Larry is absolutely a better candidate than most. Great editing work lmao
@malcolmwallis43 ай бұрын
Alice was right - even cat can look at the King.
@napoleonibonaparte71983 ай бұрын
Larry holds the constituency of Downing Street.
@miguel57853 ай бұрын
Corbyn stood as an independent and won. I just wanted to repeat this fact.
@Pushing_Pixels3 ай бұрын
His constituents are no doubt pretty unhappy with what the Labour Party did to him. Labour can forget about winning that electorate for a while.
@SamW-jo5cf3 ай бұрын
@@Pushing_Pixels I'm sure they really care about that
@dandare10013 ай бұрын
@@SamW-jo5cf I bet they do care. It's an embarrassment for them.
@jetpigeon87583 ай бұрын
@@Pushing_Pixels Labour did well enough without the Corbynistas.
@looplst3 ай бұрын
@@loopholesloopyIf he was a part of Labour, I actually personally wouldn't have voted for him like I did with him being an independent, so agreed.
@theduckcompany3 ай бұрын
The American mind (mine) can't conceive of electoral swings this huge, good for you guys.
@philmcmillan723 ай бұрын
The biggest mistake Sunak made during the election was focusing on Labour, and not Reform. Looking through most of the results, it is clear that if Sunak had focused most of his effort on Reform, Labour would have lost so many seats given their low polling share. It does leave Starmer with a big problem, as with Reform in 2nd place in such a large number of seats means that if he fails to turn the ship around in 4 and a half years, Reform will expand and be fully battle ready for the next GE.
@nathanwhitehouse82373 ай бұрын
Hopefully the Tories regroup and push Reform down
@Hardcore_Remixer3 ай бұрын
He DID focus on Reform by promissing to handle the 1ll3gal 1mm1grat10n, but nobody trusted him at that point.
@Hardcore_Remixer3 ай бұрын
@@nathanwhitehouse8237 Won't happen. The sheer reason the Torries didn't get less than they did was the strategic voting (and the life long Tory voters). Expect the Tories to crumble further and Reform, a real conservative party to take its place as one of the 2 biggest. Who knows, possibly they'll get rid of FPTP too when they get in.
@simoncox96893 ай бұрын
@@Hardcore_Remixer reform are a far right facist party and are in no way a real conservative
@Fluxwux3 ай бұрын
I think focusing too much on Reform would give them additional PR and might accidentally mobilize more anti Tory voters to vote reform in safe Tory districts - due to dissident right wingers feeling betrayed by the tories going so hard against Reform in the debates and communication.
@JD-yp5uu3 ай бұрын
The voting was not much different than in 2019 except for the Conservatives losing half their vote to Reform. Labour and the LibDems should thank Nigel Farrage for their 'outstanding' performance. The result is NOT a ringing endorsement for Labour, it is just a solid repudiation of the Conservatives.
@battlep0t3 ай бұрын
Exactly, Farage did a deal with Boris last time around to not run in any battleground constituencies where Labour had a chance of getting in. This time they ran in every constituency they could
@HighlanderJosh3 ай бұрын
Reform for UK
@Patrick-y4d1z3 ай бұрын
True - and this is a part of the problem. Gaining 200 seats because Conservatives voted Reform shows the problem with not having proportional representation.
@James-o2u9x3 ай бұрын
Correct. I m actually quite impressed that the comments on this channel are not just childish insults and most people are engaging quite reasonably with each other. Seems I may have misjudged it.
@mbbsboi72483 ай бұрын
Yes, it's quite clear it's not a pro-Labour vote, more like an anti-Tory vote.
@patrickfletcher1693 ай бұрын
He's in IKEA right now picking out a nice cabinet. As is tradition
@malcolmwallis43 ай бұрын
Oh, no no no! He have to build it himself and make a video of it to prove that he can labour a job!
@darthtoaster63683 ай бұрын
12.2% gets you 71 seats while 14.3% gets you an entire 4 seats. I love democracy Edit: WE JUST MADE IT TO 5 SEATS 🔥🔥🔥
@lukebennett.3 ай бұрын
Yeah it needs to change but how would they with keeping local MPs, I can't imagine a party being in power but having little mps
@gx93623 ай бұрын
Yes because each constituency has different needs and different candidates and you vote for your constituency not the whole country. It makes sense as the MP for your area is the person who fights for your issues. Reform just got 2nd in a bunch of different places because very few majorities actually agree with them.
@pja89013 ай бұрын
It's a political duopoly / monarchy
@bilgzmcr70353 ай бұрын
@@lukebennett. you can have larger areas and voters would vote for a list of MPs of a party, like in all other functional democracies
@cdw24683 ай бұрын
@@lukebennett.in germany they have local leaders for each district, but they have floating proportional representation representatives that make the chamber look like the popular vote, so best of both worlds
@awestruckbeaver33443 ай бұрын
As many have said now more than ever the UK needs PR. To win with only a third of the vote is disgraceful. Left and right need to put their differences aside and start campaigning endlessly for PR.
@dftfire3 ай бұрын
To paraphrase Animal Farm: _All votes are equal_ _But some votes are more-equal than others_ 🥺
@lakshylifestyle68803 ай бұрын
Bro search instant runoff on google. In my opinion it is the best electoral system in the world. PR creates unstable coalition governments. It is a mess.
@CountScarlioni3 ай бұрын
At the same time, FPTP kept the fascist-lite Reform from becoming Britain's 3rd party. So last night FPTP worked in the wider public interest...for once. What we saw was Labour and the Lib Dems uising FPTP against their opponents to spectacular effect. Both only targetted their campaigns at the seats they wanted and all but abandoned seats they either had already or had no chance of obtaining. That way they maximised the power of their vote share. Normally it's the Tories who use this tactic, but this time they were on the sharp end. Reform on the other hand may have had millions of votes, but their vote is only strong among bigots and nationalists. Every UK constituency has only a small number of those to draw on. 10-15% is the usual figure given for members of the public with far-right views. So unless Reform got massively bolstered by angry renegade Tory voters (which they did), they were doomed to keep losing because 15% share doesn't buy seats in any constituency. Frankly I regard it as a lucky f'ing escape. I voted to change the vote system to AV in 2011 referendum, but the overwhelming majority of the public rejected it. If offered the change to PR, I'd say yes but I've got a sense that another referendum would end up the same way because for whatever reason it seems only political anoraks demand vote system change. PR is more democratic, no question of that. But I do worry over the Pandora's box it opens, especially with western democracy in general being in such poor and fragile health. If this were a PR system right now, A Labour/Lib Dem/Green powerblock would only narrowly have the counterbalance of power to keep a bigoted Tory-Reform pact from destroying the forward progress of the nation.
@MidwestArtMan3 ай бұрын
Ranked choice is better than proportional representation, especially with multiple regional parties existing.
@SmurphofChaos3 ай бұрын
Still better than the us voting system. If you live in a small state your vote doesn't matter.
@TerribleFire3 ай бұрын
I specifically voted (tactically) to get rid of the SNP. They've trashed Scotland with their egos and incompetence since 2014.
@GavinGas3 ай бұрын
Very shrewd
@BrianPaterson-f3i3 ай бұрын
Failed here!
@mbbsboi72483 ай бұрын
Outsider here, so is the Scottish independence movement dead for now?
@alphasword55413 ай бұрын
Well done you've fucked yourself.
@alphasword55413 ай бұрын
@@mbbsboi7248 I mean if Labour acts like they did before then no lol
@WildXstElementZ3 ай бұрын
You guys are always so quick to post
@calahoon223 ай бұрын
'First past the post'
@GavinGas3 ай бұрын
@@calahoon22 nice. Top ref
@chrisjlocke2 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="305">5:05</a> - "There are some candidates in a strong position right now..." just as Larry walks into the frame. Can't argue with him being PM.
@sharksbreath73 ай бұрын
Five years ago I couldn't care less about politics, now I'm obsessed. UK, France, US, Canada.....things are crazy and the next five years are going to be Apocalyptic.
@niblet1123 ай бұрын
Of course The uk especially now, he will sign us up for all kinds of nasty stuff.
@dab883 ай бұрын
@@niblet112 what could be worse than Brexit lmao
@niblet1123 ай бұрын
@@dab88 🤣 you do realise joining the European Union, giving over power to a foreign leader was treason right. We are a sovereign nation (well supposed to be) joining shouldn’t of ever happened anyway.
@rogerk61803 ай бұрын
As long as the orange monkey stays out of power things will be fine.
@kaym77043 ай бұрын
@@niblet112giving power to a foreign government…you’re being a bit dramatic. You may have to play by club rules when you are part of a club.
@jonathanwetherell36093 ай бұрын
Congrats to Labour but a bad night for democracy. Low turn out, a massive land slide for Labour with 35% of votes and the rise of multi party votes. WE really need electoral reform. A residency requirement would reduce the power of party over MP and strengthen the constituency link but which voting system? All have weaknesses but FPTP is the worst. My choice would be STV. It returns a constituency candidate that is broadly in line with the consensus of the area and also strengthens the link to voters.
@Barnacl3_Boi3 ай бұрын
What is an STV system?
@Woke_Invaders3 ай бұрын
FPTP is a joke.
@dex63163 ай бұрын
@@Barnacl3_Boiin the current system FPTP you divide the nation into a number of districts and whomever wins the most votes in that district wins the election. IRV makes changes to this so that you rank candidates in order of preference. The biggest loser is eliminated and their voters next choices are given votes. This happens until someone wins a majority of the vote in the district. STV takes this one step further by combining districts and allowing multiple candidates to win. This balances local representation and general voter sentiment. CGP Grey has some excellent short videos on the subject.
@d.b.46713 ай бұрын
^ First past the post, instant runoff vote, single transferable vote, for those who like to actually know what abbreviations mean.
@thespanishinquisition40783 ай бұрын
I'd say best is STV, followed by PR. D'Hont (my country's poison) is practically a joke, and FPTP is a sick joke no one laughs at anymore.
@xiaofengxiaofengxiaofengxi46513 ай бұрын
Corbyn was not unexpected whatsoever.
@Silverwidows3 ай бұрын
I think he was a bit, I didn't think he would win. I thought the media rampage on him did enough damage to his reputation, but i'm glad he won. he actually seems like a decent guy who hasn't really changed his policies since he started in politics. It's a real shame what happened to him, but it just shows how easy it is for the media to smear someone and for everyone to be brainwashed into believing it. Even in the age of information at our fingertips, humans still react to basic emotion rather than fact
@robo30073 ай бұрын
Agreed. Probably has a more loyal following than any other labour leader that came before him
@byunbaekhyun22833 ай бұрын
yup, corbyn is a local man, he's loved by his constituents.
@battlep0t3 ай бұрын
He's extremely popular in Islington, he got more of a share of the vote than Starmer did in his constituency
@minsapint80073 ай бұрын
it was for me. I am so relieved that he won. I was sure that there was a pre-election poll showing Corbyn behind.
@amaldrew38303 ай бұрын
"I'm a fighter, not a quitter" -Lady Oogway
@dftfire3 ай бұрын
I find it mad though the number of voices who said after Boris won in 2019 "yeah, but he only got 43.6% of the popular-vote, so that means less than half the country wants him". Okay, and Kier has just won on 33.7%, meaning two-thirds didn't want him. Can we please change the voting-system in this country already? 🤷🏻♂️
@molemania35863 ай бұрын
Less people turned out more and more dont believe in the democratic process .. theyre wise to it all now
@georgezee51733 ай бұрын
I do remember all the leftist media pointing out how Boris got a 50%+ majority of seats with "only" 43% of the votes... Now look at Starmer getting 60%+ of the seats with only 33% of the votes. You won't see those same leftists journalists and supporters pointing that out, even though it's actually way worse this time around xD
@whitezombie103 ай бұрын
@eljay5009ok and? It just shows how undemocratic the system is
@comradecat36783 ай бұрын
14% of the vote but only 4 seats? Your Parliament system is a joke UK
@DavidBennell3 ай бұрын
Well, Lib Dems have always wanted PR and got the Tories to agree to a referendum on it but it got voted against at a rate of 2-1. Largely voted down by the people who now finally get why we need it.
@jw8413 ай бұрын
Has been for nearly a century. But brits are slow learners.
@maximumbrexit45033 ай бұрын
It's a good system for stopping racist populists clearly
@alansmithee4193 ай бұрын
@@theoppositeopinion9290 They said no to it because it wasn't the thing anyone wanted. It was basically just a more confusing version of FPTP - one seat per constituency, popular parties get most of the seats on 30% of the vote.
@E.anonymous-j9r2 ай бұрын
At least it stopped the reform party and the tories. It would be better if we could vote for who we really wanted rather than tactically, but that’s what needed to be done and it was lovely to see most of the country come together to get rid of the tories!
@hikingviking8593 ай бұрын
Congratulations UK!
@wenterinfaer16563 ай бұрын
Only British election can show us how rotten this system is
@kaym77043 ай бұрын
Don’t look across the pond. The US is worst with our outdated electoral college.
@crazydinosaur89453 ай бұрын
@@kaym7704 but look to the EU and you will see that its still pretty bad compared to what other countries are doing. still. the US got it worst i will agree
@ketchup21473 ай бұрын
Got you lot are so unhappy
@biboebbs6243 ай бұрын
you need help
@rudy-r5x3 ай бұрын
only change is what?from sunak to him,he can't change the sanctions britain imposed on themselves,can't join brics,can't overturn the nuclear threaths,can't join the free world trading platform
@ajgooner67283 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="367">6:07</a> A wild Zak Brown has appeared 😂
@Brutalwhale3 ай бұрын
Reform getting 14.3% and only 4 seats should be the story. Lib dems got around 2% less vote share and got about 8-9 less seats than the should've proportionally but still over 23x what reform got.
@anonymousanonym4503 ай бұрын
what a dogshit system 🤣
@zi3263 ай бұрын
@@anonymousanonym450 Believe every country thinks that their own system is shit when things don't go the way they want
@lordpolish27273 ай бұрын
@@zi326 are you really trying to defend first past the post
@zi3263 ай бұрын
@@lordpolish2727 Not necessarily. Just pointing out there are benefits to that system as well. For example it lets all the parts of the country have an actual say instead of there just being people of the large cities that are appointing the whole parliament by there overnumbering share of votes.
@ThatBlockyMan3 ай бұрын
@@zi326Well if the majority of the people live in big cities, they should get the majority of the representation. Places shouldn’t be represented, people should.
@TyudroWymoreEdgartyu23 ай бұрын
Nothing will change
@dodgechance45643 ай бұрын
correct
@getnohappy3 ай бұрын
Rather than apologize to Tory party, Sunak should have apologized to the country for the damage they've done.
@luciamacakova75162 ай бұрын
The country that desperately needs a bold leader who can make radical changes, voted for a man who is afraid of being unpopular.
@RHYSCO513 ай бұрын
I saw more comments on KZbin saying they were going to vote for reform than actual reform votes
@BobSmith-s7j2 ай бұрын
Yeah, there are a lot of Reform supporters who spend far too much time online in a bubble ingesting conspiracy theories and scaremongering. There are also a lot of bots shilling for Reform.
@1music6803 ай бұрын
cabinets actually showing a carpenter
@malcolmwallis43 ай бұрын
Wise words.
@Qoonutz3 ай бұрын
Labour won because Tories were just terrible.
@niblet1123 ай бұрын
Sad isn’t it. Voting out a rat and replace him with a snake
@MrMirville3 ай бұрын
When the hell were the Tories of England ever not just terrible?
@niblet1123 ай бұрын
@@MrMirville well they were great after Blair apparently. It’s a revolving door of replacing one after the other screws up. 🤣 sign of insanity
@stevecriddle3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the belly laugh at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="371">6:11</a>.
@Crosland_Hill2 ай бұрын
A bartender I met on holiday in the Scottish Highlands early June, who was himself pro-independence, said he thought there would be a big slump in the SNP vote because the main thing on voters' minds was no longer independence, but the state of the NHS and cost of living.
@ThisIsEddieBear3 ай бұрын
Reforms performance was historic.
@bassetts18993 ай бұрын
It wasn't a Labour win, it was a Conservative loss. Labour only managed a third of the votes, but ended up winning two thirds of the seats.
@captainufo45873 ай бұрын
I generally fail to understand why people always bring this up. "They won the game of football because they played with the rules of football. Had they played with the rules of chess, someone else would've won." No shit, but it's not a game of chess. People don't like it? Fantastic, I don't like it either, let's change it. But there was a great chance in 2011, people voted no to it. But as long as the game is football, you need to play by its rules.
@user-op8fg3ny3j3 ай бұрын
@@captainufo4587 because starmer actually won less percent compared to 2019 under Corbyn
@JackChurchill1013 ай бұрын
People always say it, because it's always relevant. They're not calling for insurrection, but electoral reform. If you're football match had the rule "the highest paid players score three for every one goal" then you would say "it's the rules, but the rules should change". It's not complicated.
@bassetts18993 ай бұрын
@@captainufo4587 it's not as black and white as just winning or losing, I was hinting at something more. Yes Labour won the election, but Starmer now leads a country where around 66% of the population didn't vote for him. That is going to have an impact down the line. To use your football analogy, it's like winning because the opposing team all died in the first half. Yes it's a win, technically, but did we earn it?
@simoncox96893 ай бұрын
@@bassetts1899 and there is a reason it is done on the local level an thats why we get a BY election where the seats are up for grabs again
@lordbusiness-qs4ok3 ай бұрын
Now we will never get rid of FPTP
@stuffmcstuff3993 ай бұрын
Nah, FPTP protects us from extremist parties. Gives coherent Parliamentary opposition. Allows people to vote between people and not parties. It is one of the best form of methods for independent politicians. There is a reason most countries adopted it because for large voting - it is the best method for representation.
@CptMark3 ай бұрын
You could, 13 years ago. People voted 2:1 against it.
@Hardcore_Remixer3 ай бұрын
@@stuffmcstuff399 "best method of representation" How so? It is people that must be represented. That's the very point of d3m0cracy. And what happens when 2 extr3m1st parties become the main ones like it happened in US? In that case you need to get rid of FPTP to get rid of the extr3m1sts. Be honest with yourself. You just want to keep the status quo.
@Matt-ni8jh3 ай бұрын
@@stuffmcstuff399 Yes, perpetual stagnation and flip flopping between two brands of the same feckless, milquetoast neoliberal ideology is the way forward.
@stuffmcstuff3993 ай бұрын
@@Hardcore_Remixer fptp stops extremist parties.
@TanguDisen2 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="165">2:45</a> should be noted, the man in charge of the exit poll said reform was their most uncertain
@MonikTewio2 ай бұрын
The story of Lizz Truss makes me think of the Canadian story of Kim Campbell. Both of them were extremely unpopular as the heads of failing parties in their home nations, and they were quickly removed from their positions as prime minister.
@NseviAlocz2 ай бұрын
The story of Lizz Truss makes me think of the Canadian story of Kim Campbell. Both of them were extremely unpopular as the heads of failing parties in their home nations, and they were quickly removed from their positions as prime minister.
@f-86zoomer373 ай бұрын
The greatest moment in electoral politics happened
@kamalalsb72923 ай бұрын
Frankly, they're basically the same. The difference is the Tories stopped offering the one thing people in this country really want - plausible deniability. People in this country are small minded, ignorant, nationalistic bigots - but they don't want to be confronted with anything that might challenge their view that they're basically good people. They vote Tory rather than say, Reform, because they want small minded, ignorant, nationalistic, bigoted policy, but they want to be able to pretend that that's not what they voted for. And when it all goes tits up, as it always does, suddenly all the people who voted Tory last time round are lifetime Labour Supporters (just so long as it's not Corbyn, or any Labour politician who's politics are substantially different from the Tories.) But after fourteen years of the tories getting more and more explicit in the evil fascist shit they wanted to do, people just can't pretend that this isn't what they voted for anymore. Meanwhile, Labour has basically come out under Starmer and said "We're gonna do exactly the same shit the Tories wanted to do, we're gonna be just as corrupt (read: declassifying hate groups as hate groups because a rich woman told them to) but we'll do it in a way that lets you pretend that you're still a liberal, not a Conservative." The current Labour Party's politics ARE Tory politics. The current Labour Leadership stand for the same shit that the Tories do - IE, basically nothing, but with a heavy emphasis on Nationalism, Traditional Values and supporting or otherwise promoting bigotry. They aren't going to do the worst shit that the Tories would have (like literally getting rid of the Human Rights charter) but they are still willing to support hate groups, bigoted organisations, and promote nationalism - while privatising a LOT of essential shit that should belong to everyone. The same people who were getting poorer and poorer will continue to do so, the same groups being murdered in the streets will continue to do so. All this means is things get worse just a tiny bit slower, until the general public get complacent again and the Tories get back in. This won't change anything. Nothing is going to get better. The only reason most of you seem to think this is such a game changer is because you don't belong to one of the three or four groups being scapegoated by both parties. It means nothing because no politician substantially different from this mold can ever win in this country. When offered a choice between Free Wifi and clearing Student Debt or Children drowning in the Channel and people dying in the streets, you all thought Free Wifi and clearing Student Debt sound like the worst option. Everything is fucked and nothing will change. If you gave me the money right this second I'd just leave before this nation goes full fascist.
@simoncox96893 ай бұрын
no they resally not..perhaps you forgor how much better it was last time labour where in power if you alive back then
@kamalalsb72923 ай бұрын
@@simoncox9689 Oh you mean 14 years ago? Yeah nothing in Global Politics has changed in 14 years, you're so right, there definitely haven't been multiple massive events that fundamentally changed the political landscape across the world. Silly me. Now will be just like Fourteen Years Ago.
@malcolmwallis43 ай бұрын
Kamala, darling, that second have passed while I was reading that pessimistic comment. How much money do you want and there you will be going? My be I will follow. Do you prefer an island or a continent? I do not like to be called "small minded, ignorant nationalistic bigot, turning fascist". Shell I start packing the bags?😭
@salvatoremaglione63983 ай бұрын
@@kamalalsb7292 Mate, is everyone to the left of Angela Davis and Leon Trotsky a BigOtED, wAYcIst liTtLe EnGlAnDEr to you?
@michael_burry_burner3 ай бұрын
Great video! So disappointed in the UK's election system. How does a party with 14.3% of the representative vote have less than 1% of the seats. Is that Democracy? The amount of tactical voting this creates is obscene. Need to follow in Europe's footsteps and develop a representative system. Labour "landslide" win with 33% of the votes...
@SmurphofChaos3 ай бұрын
Obviously, but no country's system is perfect. And ours is far better than that of the US.
@FlatDerrick3 ай бұрын
No, it's not democracy. It's a constitutional monarchy, with a system designed to stop anti monarchist groups - traditionally socialists and fascists - from gaining enough of a foothold to ditch the Monarch.
@EEE-14093 ай бұрын
Reform didn't deserve any seats, let alone 4.
@reksapluss7163 ай бұрын
@@EEE-1409 they deserved about 80 I know math is hard for the likes of you
@EEE-14093 ай бұрын
@@reksapluss716 They should have gotten 80, but that doesn't mean they deserve 80. I know English is hard for the likes of you.
@liamgartlan59613 ай бұрын
Everyone talking about the election I wanna talk about the cute cat in front of 10 downing lmao
@BobSmith-s7j3 ай бұрын
Everyone loves Larry
@TheGoncas23 ай бұрын
33.8% of votes getting 63% of the seats. First-past-the-post moment.
@delawarepilot3 ай бұрын
So you picked Pepsi instead of Coke, you still got diabetes.
@BromideBride3 ай бұрын
Dude, the pancreas has been necrotic since the 1950s
@Silverwidows3 ай бұрын
and reform is the energy drink that will kill you
@GavinGas3 ай бұрын
Sweeteners don't cause diabetes
@delawarepilot3 ай бұрын
@@GavinGas typical voter.
@malcolmwallis43 ай бұрын
Does Pepsi come in a sniffing form? - the londoner have asked.
@davidlister72143 ай бұрын
Reform got 5 seats, not 4. Although the last seat was recounted 3 times so that info probably wasn't available when you made the video 👍
@zwojack72853 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the UK population to actually vote for their PM after 3 PMs
@battlep0t3 ай бұрын
Boris was elected to be fair. Truss and Sunak weren't.
@MalcIgg3 ай бұрын
Yet we never vote for a PM --- (*well except in their own constituency) - we only put a local representative into parliament - the rest is up to the system and party decision-making....
@GavinGas3 ай бұрын
2 PMs. Boris was voted for. Well, indirectly via MPs and seats
@Colin6233 ай бұрын
The vote count for Starmer's own constituency was down by 50%, total votes for Labour was hardly any different from the defeat of Corbyn in 2019, yet this time it results in a landslide victory, totally bizarre and unrepresentative system we have !
@Silverwidows3 ай бұрын
It's not bizzare. Before reform party, there wasn't really anywhere for right wingers to go other than the tories. Left wing vote was split between labour and lib dem. So this time, the right wing vote was more split between tories and reform. Tory voters jumped ship and voted reform, so thank you to reform for messing up the right wing vote 🙂
@Colin6233 ай бұрын
@@Silverwidows What a bizarre way of thinking, there is only one party responsible for the Tories defeat, and that's THE TORIES, do you honestly think if they had carried out what they promised in 2019 they would have got this result ? No, they gave the electorate no other choice, they deceived the Tory voters that gave them a big majority, if they had controlled our borders as promised do you really think they would of lost ? Don't be so disingenuous ! Many former Tory voters voted for the LibDems, some to Labour, where do you think the LibDems got those extra 61 seats from ?? I don't see you blaming them for some bizarre reason ! They are responsible for their own downfall, NO ONE ELSE !
@Jomiloju-xw6wg3 ай бұрын
@@Silverwidows Nah it's good, in case you haven't heard a vote for the tories isn't a "right wing vote" the tories are literally just labour lite.
@Leeds713 ай бұрын
@@Silverwidows 4 million votes and 4 seats is not a democracy - sorry to pop that bubble. Just because your team probably won, the last time the Tories had the same and Labour voters bleated on about it and this time its OK. Welcome to the reason nothing will change for the better in the UK - different cheeks of the same arse getting voted in all the time by the same ar&&holes.
@MicroScope8883 ай бұрын
@@Silverwidows actually conservatives split the right wing vote lol. Imagine thinking cons are a rightwing party
@AKH-cq1tq2 ай бұрын
Tories destroyed the party not for now but for another 20 years because killing economy doubling tuition fees and introducing universal credit which they couldn't implement it nationally for 14 years😢😢😢
@caiusofglantri55133 ай бұрын
Rishi Sunak: "The Labour party has won this general election." It's a relief to live in a country where win or lose, our leaders believe in the democratic process.
@qasdex3 ай бұрын
I imagine he's pretty pleased he can now trot off to the US
@MaximilianonMars3 ай бұрын
He's a middle-manager passing the reigns to another middle-manager who all work for the same boss. The only time they'd be salty is if someone who isn't in the pig ********* club wins.
@rogerk61803 ай бұрын
Imagine living in the usa lol.
@the-blue-barron27913 ай бұрын
Reform 14% of the vote = 4 Seats. Lib Dems 12% of the vote = 71 Seats. Democracy 🤔🤔🤔
@tarashek78653 ай бұрын
It’s bullshit
@aminaaden34693 ай бұрын
Real
@Moray20233 ай бұрын
Reform didn't make policies that appeal for the wider UK, just parts of Southern England. It's their own fault they didn't diversify.
@Billiamwoods3 ай бұрын
Maybe they should campaign to remove FPTP
@Erdwick3 ай бұрын
@@Moray2023 They are the 3rd largest party but represent people across the nation rather than owning certain areas like the main regime parties
@ruairidhmacfarlane84403 ай бұрын
Things can only get better
@TheTfrules3 ай бұрын
@@kevinh4869 Indeed, they can also get a whole lot worse. At least that's less likely under Starmer than Sunak, or god forbid reform
@SubjectiveFunny3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I cannot wait to see the immigration numbers moving forward.. The only bright side is that not even YOU people will be able to ignore it now..
@spacechannelfiver3 ай бұрын
they'll get worse less quickly under Labour
@nathanwhitehouse82373 ай бұрын
Reform are the worst. The party is full of liers and Descrimination
@cazman1823 ай бұрын
@@kevinh4869 absolutely not. Their manifesto might as well be toilet paper. Wishful spending funded by some vague promise of "government cuts".
@crystallogic25432 ай бұрын
As a Finnish person I can't believe how undemocratic a constituency voting system the UK has in use!
@TimboSlice694203 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed we see some real change from the Labour party! God knows we need it
@SubjectiveFunny3 ай бұрын
Have you read ANYTHING they have put forward?! NOTHING changes, it only ramps up.. Holy smokes, you people have no idea wtf is going on...
@kingbeam80ify3 ай бұрын
Nothing will change because the labour party isn't that different from the conservatives. My prediction is that the people will be disappointed and this leeds to a right wing shift. You see this everywhere in europe. A flawed democratic system and less education is to blame
@BromideBride3 ай бұрын
@@kingbeam80ify you think the voting chose the outcome. The reason Labour lost under Corbyn was thanks to the media. Likewise why Starmer won today. Media sanctioning to relieve the political right of pressure. Exactly why Blair won in 97 and Wilson in 74
@od96943 ай бұрын
DUP collapsed in Northern Ireland
@NaSaSh10873 ай бұрын
Instead the more radical UUP and the TUV gain.
@MarkFugitive-3 ай бұрын
Sinn Féin and the broader Republican parties remain on top. Another milestone @@NaSaSh1087
@DarklordZagarna3 ай бұрын
@@NaSaSh1087 Uh, UUP is less radical. Left to right (relatively speaking, they're all far right) it's UUP-DUP-TUV.
@zenroles3 ай бұрын
That transition to the sponsor segment made me do a reality check. Ever since I started watching TL:DR, I really thought that those two hosts were one person.
@d.b.46713 ай бұрын
It helps that Jack started wearing glasses. It would help more if they put their name at the beginning of the video.
@DogsandPennies3 ай бұрын
Same! It’s bad because in hindsight they look and sound so different xD
@StormaLorda3 ай бұрын
14% of the vote and only 4 seats for reform really shows how crap our voting system is!!