Why Greece is Heading for Another Election After Just One Month

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Despite delivering a strong result for the incumbent government on Sunday, Greece will likely have to head back to the polls again as early as July. In this video, we explain the results, what they mean and why Greece is set for another election so soon.
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UPDATE: The new election looks likely to be held at the end of June rather than July as PM Mitsotakis says June 25th is a possible date. Also at the end of the video we way he is on course for another four terms; this should obviously be "another four-year term"!

[@janbananberg357]

You finally got rid of that bad ad end you had for the last couple of videos. Good.

[@xXRealXx]

"We way he" lol. Proofread your comnents, please!

[@liofalba]

I kind of enjoyed the idea of TLDR secretly pulling for ND to rule eternal.

[@ASocialistTransGirl]

@@xXRealXx its grammatically correct

[@goatgamer001]

In Greece it's common for terms to be less than 4 years

[@NP3GA]

I'm proud to have officially join the "tldr is bad at pronouncing my country's leader name" club

[@Noticer333]

It’s a growing club 😅

[@MiKenning]

Meeray 24

[@jakubblaha4904]

Welcome!

[@tonkasergej65]

I remember when video about Bosnia came out i was more upset about his pronaunciation then current state of my country😂 cheers 🍻

[@georgegkoumas5026]

Mitsakis 💪💪💪

[@-Damin]

As a Bulgarian, I wish good luck to our Greek neighbours. Hopefully they will have a prime minister soon and not experience what has happened here.

[@FoivosApostolou]

Thank you bro. Good luck to you too. I love Bulgaria.

[@artemisroukounakis2287]

i truly i don't really know what is going to hurt Greece more... Not having a prime minister or having one like the ones mentioned in the video

[@aantony2001]

With this government, Greece seems to be gradually heading towards Bulgaria's direction of constant decline and corruption. We may both be envying Romania soon.

[@bdz_4206]

Not having a prime minister would be much better than having a cheap knockoff Thatcher selling anything that isn't bolted to the ground. Also during covid, it was more important to have police rather than doctors.

[@aantony2001]

@@secretname4190 No we aren't. Talk to an economist which actually researched the country. The government is doing a good job with propaganda abroad. The Greek economy is destroyed. It still hasn't reached its size before the crisis, and it's been 15 years. For the average EU country, being slightly above your size 15 years ago is terrible. Greece is below. Real average wages (in terms of purchasing power, especially when adjusting for real inflation) are the lowest they have ever been, similar to those at the worst points of the financial crisis. Unemployment is still incredibly high. 40% of the population is at or below the poverty rate. The current account is negative. Even at the height of the crisis it was positive. The debt is higher than ever. It even reached the worst debt/GDP ratio in the world. That was thankfully later lessened due to inflation, but inflation caused worse problems overall. Worst of all, all this happened when Greece was allowed to do whatever it wanted within reason for a while. Next year the fiscal limits are being reimposed. What makes you think Greece is doing good economically, apart from high growth (which is very low for a country supposedly exiting a crisis, not even reaching the pre-crisis size)?

[@seaguy8146]

As a Greek i can tell you we hate every single party

[@rickyyacine4818]

Yea kick the eu and fucking globalist agenda we need to go full costantine 5 th kn this hertics I want my Anatolia back

[@bloodspartan300]

Thats because all partys are leftist parties.

[@orestismitsopoulos1265]

As a Greek I can confirm that whatever was said in this video is correct except from the part where you mentioned that the next election will come to July but it will happen in June instead

[@connie211259]

They also failed to mention that 10.000 voters were 115 years old I’m still scratching my head

[@orestismitsopoulos1265]

fr my brother Also I am happy to see that they fixed it

[@MADED1TS]

Ο Μιτσάκης όμως😤💪💪🔥🔥

[@orestismitsopoulos1265]

Yes I agree Mr Mitsotakis is truly a big strong man

[@g3org3yo7]

@@connie211259 they survived covid thanks to the measurements hahahah

[@savabout6487]

This isn't so much a mandate for Mitsotakis as it is a rejection of Tsipras.

[@vasiliosmitropoulos5590]

Historically, for Greece most if not all collaboration governments ended up as huge failures. The election system voted by SYRIZA was not bad as an idea, but realisticly it does not fit the political landscape of the country, parties pretty much hate each other and are really toxic to each other.

[@AntwKats]

it wasnt a bad idea in their mind because they thought they would keep their rates as a mean to save their positions, which as it seems it backfired losing 30% and propably loosing even more in the upcoming elections

[@kwanlinus6999]

All Greek parties hate each other, but are universally nationalistic and xenophobic

[@zerofaith449]

@sybiz z you're wrong. Almost all countries where referring to skopje(or northern macedonia) as FYROM which stands for Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. Only greeks called it skopje and the agreement for the name would pass whether it was Syriza or New Democracy or PASOK. But the greek people tied this ''national betrayal'' with Tsipras overlooking the fact that the rest would do the same

[@ntonisa6636]

​@@zerofaith449 I can't see the comment you're responding to, but let correct you slightly even though I basically agree. Actually a majority of countries including 4 out of 5 UNSC(Russia,China, UK, US) had officially been calling it simply Macedonia (I'm not saying I was happy about this, but it's just a fact) ... the remaining (minority) of UN countries, *including Greece* , officially kept using the "FYRoM" formula of the 1995 "interim accord" (though in practice the "FYR" part was often omitted, except by Greece of course) which was the official name by which that country joined the UN. Unfortunately there was never a real open debate about this issue in Greece, for several reasons, resulting in a large majority of people being completely ignorant about a large number of important facts, even to the point of many Greeks delusionaly imagining that prior to the name agreement there used to be a country called "Skopia" until the traitor Tsipras "sold Macedonia" to them. This is because no other topic of public debate had ever been so thoroughly highjacked by "patriotic" demagogues who tried, quite successfully, to completely shut down any diverging narrative(or even basic undeniable facts) like this one was(and still is), turning what should be primarily a foreign policy (or at most a national security) issue into a three decade long collective psychosis.

[@ASocialistTransGirl]

correction: the second election is actually on the 25th of june, not in july.

[@MrAnediet]

It wouldn't be a TL;DR video without a mistake

[@ASocialistTransGirl]

@@MrAnediet the information was not avalable when the video was recorded

[@georgedevries3992]

@@ASocialistTransGirl No he's right. TLDR are prone to make mistakes, especially about countries and topics they don't give a damn about. Like Greece! The ones TLDR tries to be as flawless as possible are the ones about Germany, Francy, UK and USA.

[@ASocialistTransGirl]

@@georgedevries3992 the information that we know have access to wasnt avalable when the video was recorded, and yes, they do make mistakes, but so does everyone, and its not like its a major mistake either, it’s just 5 days.

[@georgedevries3992]

@@ASocialistTransGirl "but so does everyone" That's not an excuse one can use forever. Especially since TDR fancies themselves as pro-geopolitical analysts. "and its not like its a major mistake either, it’s just 5 days." True. But if you consider yourself (TLDR in this case) a proffesional reporter and analyst and make constantly mistakes, no matter how insignificant these maybe be, it screws your reputation and validity. Just saying. That's why PROPER and PATIENT research is in order. But hey, when such reporting sites are rushing for the clicks, no wonder the unending stream of discrepancies!

[@_NIKOS9_NIKOS]

To be fair most people didnt really vote for Mitsotaki because they liked him, they just hated everyone alse WAY more/ saw him as the least shit candidate.

[@Giorgos.Sarris]

Same. And because if syriza got elected the country would probably collapse on its first minor crisis.

[@jordanjames2956]

As an American I can relate. In our last presidential elections Biden won because people hated Trump more. And when you go back to 2016 Trump won because people really hated Hilary Clinton.

[@freja9398]

Can you explain, why does people hate Syriza? Do you mean that left wing people prefer to vote for the conservatives?

[@Giorgos.Sarris]

Syriza had a very weak government and its best ministers were given the boot. For 4 years it governed a destroyed Greece that could have a great recovery without major global crisis and it actually screwed up in every way. After 2019 elections it only lied about what they had done and focused only on new democracy's flaws without saying anything about how to solve things (that themselves did too and much worse). So it's not actually a left wing party for the people but a lying coalition without competent people. Even those who hate new democracy political party they can't actually find anything good in syriza neither as a governing nor as an opposition party

[@user-theodor-agathos]

@@freja9398 They dont hate Syriza. Syriza although is a party that rouled the land for four years, behaved in the opposition as a party that does not know the problems Greece is facing. So they failed to convince for theyr ability to gover.

[@andrewmichaels5725]

I'm Greek and I'm getting my news from TLDR.

[@kingace6186]

I'm American and I get my US news from TLDR or Talk Shows. Always better than American media houses, anyways.

[@rickyyacine4818]

Restore Constantinople kick the eu globalist Babylonian hell hole

[@trinity6009]

ilias kasidiaris is who WE NEED running this country. A TRUE GREEK not these people bought by the jews PLEASE wake up. ilias kasidiaris WILL SAVE GREECE

[@kilonaliosI]

Whats remarkable about this election which none mentions is that the essentiall 15% that Syriza lost did not go to New Democracy and only half of it went to it to political parties that managed to enter the parliament mostly to PASOK which is closer ideologically, the rest went to parties outside. Even though we saw an explosion of new parties, unheard of for Greek politics, they all got a lot of votes , on the other hand the more popular ones like Day25 that used to be in Parliament , lost votes. It clearly shows that people are searching for alternate solutions. Also without Syriza lose counted in because of the relative high participation of voters for Greek standards (60%) it really shows how divided Greek society is and remains very unsatisfied with the political system. Which means that up to 60% of people either dont want to vote or they will vote for tiny political parties.

[@funram]

This election looks a lot like the may 2012 election : polls were off by a lot, the main left wing party was way under what polls predicted, the KKE managed to get one of its best results ever, and many votes went to parties that didn't manage to get into Parliament, all leading to a new election next month. The main diference being, of course, that this time the ND is certain to hold a majority then.

[@erggish]

It means that 60% of the people voted, not that 60% of the people want to vote for tiny political parties. You can't deduce anything about the ideas of the 40% that abstained. If they actually had a will, they would participate in the elections The remarkable thing (for the Greek standards) was that the ruling party increased its relative (+ ~1%) and absolute votes (+ ~200k) compared to 2019, even though it ruled for 4 years through the controversial periods of coronavirus and high inflation. I don't think this has ever happened before, at least not in the last 30 years. This just shows how absent was the agenda from the opposition parties for the actual electorate.. With the current results, in the next election ND can have the absolute majority in the parliament, and slightly reach the 180 needed to make changes to the constitution.

[@nickpapadopoulos9978]

Or they were too far away from their assigned voting station like my father who is a teacher at skiathos, he was supposed to go to a voting station in Giannitsa, which is a small City in the County of Pella in Macedonia and as a result of the cost of living crisis, the back and forth journey would have cost 250 euros total which is a lot of money! So he had to asbtain!

[@funram]

@@nickpapadopoulos9978 Plus New Democracy rejected a proposal by litteraly all the other parties to facilitate voting for those unable to be at their city of registration the day of the vote.

[@erggish]

@@nickpapadopoulos9978 solutions do exist for these cases, so he could have voted. But that is also another reason why I would advocate for electronic/online votes.

[@rareandro]

You forgot to mention the huge percentage of voters that didn't even go to vote. If I m correct, something like 40% of the voters didn't vote at all. So, Mitsotakis got 40% of the votes, from a pool of voters that represent 60% of the Greek population. Also, noteworthy to mention is that since 2012 there has never been an election held that attracted more than 65% of the total population to vote.

[@georgekiriak7027]

its the same in almost every election . participation was 1% more than in was with SYRIZA when they won the election

[@dabillis55]

That's actually debated. The argument is that the 40% is an exaggeration since a lot of people change their voting address. That archive doesn't update unfortunately. Meaning that if a person has moved houses to another city and changed his voting address,which is very common, the old address records it as an abstinence while the person voted on the new address.

[@Gamaouat]

@@dabillis55 no its not debated, its pretty much the same % in the last 4 elections

[@1Eagler]

My sister has left Greece 34 years ago and she hasn't voted since. She is still eligible to vote.

[@dabillis55]

Obviously the percentage of people who don't vote is close to 40% as you mention. There is no way the people who changed their addresses are close to half of that percentage. The argument is that the statistics up to this point are "wrongly" calculated since they don't account for the aforementioned case. I wouldn't know either way. I happened to read it somewhere and found it interesting.

[@leftlord]

Can we all appreciate the fact that this video is so understandable and well put together and it's note even from a Greek person. Μπράβο!!🙌🙌

[@indigomasked]

Smoking groups for art and artistic creation party should have won

[@justinbeaver8015]

LET'S GO CHICKENS 🐔🐔🐔

[@fidemporas]

Μόνο booze cooperativa ρεεεεεεεεεε

[@user-ht1vg5we2p]

K.Ο.Τ.Ε.Σ.

[@aris_32]

nah, Greek Ecologists should have taken power

[@tzioyn3331]

This and the second party being byzan

[@Vardoulos]

The greek minister of infastructure and transport, a week prior to the events of the crash, announced that "it is a shame that people bring forth matters of safety regarding public transportation in greece". He resigned immediately after the crash. Yet 25000 voters denounced his responsibility by supporting him once again. It was a tragic day in greece where the last remnants of democracy vanished.

[@giorgosangelopoulos2098]

Also Mera25(Diem) was the party asking about the transport and infrastructure safety, and we managed to undervote this party and leave it out of parliament.

[@Vardoulos]

@@giorgosangelopoulos2098 because people couldn't get their heads around the dimitra program whilst everyone complains about how much money banks hold when you make a purchase with a card. In my opinion varoufakis failed in his campaign by being too honest and realistic. That is not what the average greek voter wants to be convinced.

[@kingperalta]

@@Vardoulos Interesting take. People couldn't get their heads around the Dimitra program - not because it's too complex to understand, but because all other parties bashed it and spread fake information. Even Tsipras joined in on this propaganda, even though he knows exactly what the program is about (an early version of it was one of the reasons Varoufakis was asked to join Syriza back then). No matter what approach Varoufakis would have taken, the average voter still thinks he's the one to blame for the capital controls and third memorandum. What pisses me off the most, though, is how everyone keeps mentioning Syriza's mistakes from '15 over and over again, as if New Democracy or PASOK weren't the ones who turned Greece to shit.

[@Gamaouat]

"it is a shame that people bring forth matters of safety regarding public transportation..... he didnt say Greece, he was talking about a specific region not the entire Greek public transportation

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

The Greek People WILL NOT be fooled by your Leftist-Commie BS anymore! Mitsotakis is your FATHER !!!! You lost BADLY 😃 We Won…✊🏻🇬🇷

[@ang13blacklion95]

Hello from Greece! Excellent analysis!

[@giorgos.efth43]

As a Greek its overall an accurate video but you missed some facts, most notably: -The turnout was really low: 57% participation of those eligible to vote (those who didn't vote are mostly younger and more left wing) - The second election will def happen ( not just a possibility) and will take place at June 25 - You butchered the pronunciation of mitsotakis 😂 PS I made a mistake the turnout was 60% μην με σκίσετε

[@Duck-wc9de]

57% is low? In Portugal we celebrated the fact that we manage to get 52% to vote in the past legislative elections. And in 2019, less than half the voters actually voted, with 51% abstention

[@somekindofdude1130]

@@Duck-wc9de it is very low when normally u have around 70 and of that 43% most of them are young adults 30 and bellow

[@Gamermagma]

participation was actually higher than 2019 the participation was 60% last time i checked pretty impressive from european standards this couple of years

[@hamlet557]

​@@somekindofdude1130 when exactly you had 70% ??? In 2019? In 2015?

[@eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879]

@@hamlet557 Until 2009 participation in Greece was between 70-80%

[@svoin]

The reverted system is not exactly the same as the old one, is a modification of the old one. If the first party takes 25% it will get a bonus of 20 seats, and 1 more seat for every 0.5% above that up to the maximum of 50 seats at 40%. In the old one the first party would get a bonus of 50 seats regardless of the percentage of the vote

[@mapache69.]

It’s pretty much slightly less worse. The equivalent of getting 1kg of Wet Dog 💩 thrown at you, rather 1.5Kg of Wet Dog 💩thrown at you.

[@billionbillion1864]

this video is very well thought of! Great take on the issue!

[@george42614]

Really good journalism dude

[@johnh5424]

I honestly can't remember the last time the polls predicted an election result correctly anywhere

[@PeterFlanagan0987]

Ah they generally predict Ireland and the U.K. well enough.

[@Me-ui1zy]

The most recent Australian election, the US midterms had fantastic polls. The "polls are always bad" arguments are always the biggest cases of confirmation bias around

[@anokseidotos]

in greece the last 8 years they are preety accurate as well. even in this election, they showed ND ahead weeks before the elections.

[@NightFox96]

hey, greek political scientist here. the polls knew what was going to happen, it was spread days before the election that this number is going to be legit. But out of fear of Syriza's ''bullying'' these polls weren't shown to the general public. Only people in these certain circles obviously knew what was going to happen. So, polls weren't actually invalid

[@avgoustinos92]

Cyprus

[@padmastro]

Good accurate video, and also hilarious pronunciation of Mitsotakis' name :D

[@Hypnotized81]

Well done. Solid video

[@Endinos]

Thank you for this video

[@mikepsy2515]

Well done TLDR, very accurate viideo about politics in Greece.

[@tasosGRvocals]

From a Greek, very well analysed video!! 🎉

[@PrimeroVorian1]

Thank you!

[@winterGB]

Great analysis and breakdown

[@kamixalis]

I understand more from you than from the local channels here in Greece.

[@yolo3004]

the local channels are propaganda. they dont want you to understand

[@well-blazeredman6187]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I was in Corfu 8-15 May and don't recall seeing a single indication of the impending election.

[@triceratops7084]

People like you gave us traitors like Tsipras and Mitsotakis

[@kreb7]

Thinks have become more mature.

[@kapoioskapoiou8631]

Now the weather in Corfu is a bit better than when you came 😊

[@fmayer1507]

Excellent summary!

[@katewhitten3418]

Great video good job

[@fratercontenduntocculta8161]

I love this channel. As an American, it's always good to know how things are going in Europe from a reliable source.

[@Natsukashii-Records]

'reliable' lol

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

​@@Natsukashii-Records I mean, I wouldn't say unreliable, but I'd definitely say their predictions are all over the damn place.

[@hariszark7396]

Have you heard about the election FRAUD in Greece? That's how things are going on here.

[@madamegrenouille6341]

in a few words...in GREECE WE'RE FUCKED

[@user-ij2uf5xm7b]

I see you have some issues pronouncing Mitsotakis... Just call him "KOULIS"

[@gnas1897]

Or Dracula, both work

[@Boatman27]

@@Tigran-Abazyan His name is Kyriakos. People with that name are often called Kyriakoulis and for short Koulis

[@8ktv475]

THANK U

[@KavkhanIsbul]

Watching TLDR getting creative with the pronunciations is so much fun! "Mitsakis" sounds so much more approachable! If he had used that nickname in the elections, he might have won an outright majority even with the old system! Tbh, "Mitsakis" can't really match "Pritchkovin" from past videos but still, great work indeed guys! : )

[@Tena.]

Just call him "koulis" or "unlucky" since he is famous for his bad luck here

[@Dinosaur315]

​@@Tena. You mean, the bad luck he is giving to others, his own luck is quite the opposite 😂

[@vidsbyme2590]

Would have been nice to know what policies each party has...

[@adrian19831983]

Covering 212 child rapists.

[@PAULME_CH]

Me to.. And im Greek...

[@Heretus]

Well partly the reason why new democracy got so many votes is that every other party is a juvenile fraternity that their policies basically come down to " will do exactly the opposite of what the current party in power will do , no matter what that is , you cure cancer ? I will create a new type !"

[@cyb3r1]

New Democracy: Center-Right pro EU and capitalist. Many of their policies would be considered liberal by US standards at the same time they cater to the conservative portion of the Greek population. SYRIZA: Populist left. They outright destroyed the middle class when they were in charge. PASOK: Center left. Formerly one of the most popular political parties. They are by and large associated with corruption and spending insane amounts of money that led the country into the fiscal disaster (New Democracy is co-guilty of this). KKE: Communist Party. They envision a classless society with no plan or realistic propositions. They are not interested in taking over leadership, they instead prefer protesting and organising strikes. They are anti-NATO, anti-EU, anti-American, pro-Russian. Greek Solution: Nationalistic populist far right party.

[@ioeuropaganymedkallisto7204]

Nea Dimkoratia is your typical European conservative party. Economically liberal, socially conservative, they seek privatization, lower taxation, less social benefits, are unwelcoming to migrants from the Middle East and Africa, and want a stronger military. The only good thing about them is that they are smart about foreign relations and therefore EU-friendly.

[@EricJohnson-db8bu]

Based solely off the thumbnail I have come to understand that Google Chrome has been elected to lead Greece.

[@arrow1414]

Jack's back!! Yesssss! What's with the sleeves of your green T-shirt? You look like Barney Rubble (Flintstone reference).😊😉

[@ChristosNikolis]

Correction: New Democracy nowadays isn’t a purely conservative party, but rather Liberal-conservative, having a strong center-right side.

[@joshuaevans6295]

2:34 I want a video explaining the difference between the Communist Party of Greece, the Communist Party of Greece (Marxist-Leninist), the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party of Greece, the Organization of International Communists of Greece, and the Organization for the Reconstruction of the Communist Party of Greece

[@chrispetalos6579]

Good luck with that one 😂

[@conm87]

Loved the explanation… but trying to determine if you were saying “Mitsakis” or just pronouncing “Mitsotakis” poorly hahaha (it happens).

[@Georgios1821]

A fairly good presentation but New Democracy is not a Conservative Party nowadays. It's a Centre-right party similar in term of policies to the Democrats in the USA or like the CDU in Germany.

[@adrian19831983]

I didn't know Democrats covered up child rape.

[@manolisvellis1531]

Which employs ex nazis and accept police offices with swastikas on their hands and on their helmets and push back except from that they are pretty center-right

[@inferno2143]

They are objectively alt right. Just because the voter base is remedially retarded doesn't mean all the scandals, most of which your party has already confessed to, just go away. Furthermore, your party is the poster boy for police brutality and is committing human rights violations against innocent refugees every passing day. You're supporting a fascist, don't run away from it, say it with pride

[@kajamix]

ND is the equivalent of Macron or the UK libs.

[@Jkjoannaki]

@kajamix yeap. Can't imagine what this being "left" is like in other countries. Imagine hating workers rights this much.

[@glittermarsian5054]

Can't imagine how hard this gotta feel for the left in greece.

[@anna-mariamalla1343]

Very good analysis as always!

[@VictoryGR]

Great video with a good summary of the situation. Btw you kinda killed the Greek names but that’s understandable 😅👍

[@koutschrono7770]

Very good video, but you didn't explain the reasons for this outcome. In my opinion, the top reasons for this historic win for ND are as follows: First, there was a lack of a serious proposal from Syriza for forming a government, which left the country facing the prospect of continuous elections with no clear winner. Second, the opposition was in a state of constant disarray. For example, just two days before the elections, Giorgos Katrougalos stated on a panel that Syriza's plan was to significantly increase taxes on self-employed individuals and the middle class, which resulted in his expulsion from the party. Third, Syriza is a left-wing party that came to power as a result of the anger and discontent caused by the economic crisis and the memorandum, so their policies lean further to the left compared to other left-wing parties in the EU.

[@veryfunnydoge7045]

This goes more into detail and me contain bias, so it is better left out.

[@yannisb2178]

​@sybiz z You are right. It was recognised as Macedonia by any country in the world

[@veryfunnydoge7045]

@sybiz z You know, he has to refer to the country in some way, this is pretty minor.

[@user-cl9ge4hm6v]

​@@veryfunnydoge7045 the people greece argued with that decision so no its a really big problem that I believe ruined his popularity

[@Urmapleleaf]

Syriza is a neoliberal party

[@aitherio_eleos]

An important point that I want to emphasize regarding the election result is that the official opposition party (SYRIZA) spent a significant amount of time on ideological and personal attacks against the Prime Minister, while his party (New Democracy) effectively utilized the European Union's recovery fund and had the argument of the investment grade in their favor. However, there remains a question as to whether they will face fiscal austerity in the new four-year term and how they will manage the wiretapping scandal, which was the main argument of the third-ranked party (PASOK). PASOK gained ground in the center-left space because they had a better programmatic campaign than SYRIZA.

[@theremoteseller]

Mitsotakis became Mitsakis... haha

[@LoLLOL-kt9fk]

that fit💀

[@ronanmurphy9426]

08:32 Caught a bit off guard with your voice change there 😳

[@schad1738]

As someone uninformed about the various goings on in Greek politics, the sentence "then in fourth place were the communist party" hit me like a drunk at the pub 😭💀

[@pelekys1]

It still hits me the same way and I’m Greek

[@erggish]

it's a sad part of our history :( And unfortunately we cannot solve it as we did with the nazis one.

[@GetFochD]

@@erggish Yes bow down to capitalism it has worked wonders for greece

[@inferno2143]

@@erggish Yeah the greek right wing on the other hand, as a whole, holds a brilliant place in greek history... Selling out to nazis in WW2, military dictatorship, tanking the economy.... you know, fun stuff, unlike those cringe commies

[@lenaadamopoulos6750]

@@GetFochD capitalism did this or specific politicians and their families? capitalism works wonders everywhere else

[@sledgex9]

IMO it is impossible to form a coalition with PASOK. PASOK's leader was spied upon by Mitsotakis government and he's still pissed about it.

[@PeoplecallmeLucifer]

4:20 .... ok I did not see that coming XD

[@tsosmitisagro2436]

😀MI - TSO - TA - KIS, is the correct pronunciation. Other than that, thumbs up on a very thorough reporting.

[@CosmoJ]

you pronounced wrong 1:13 his name. its Malakas. Trust me bro.

[@sherlockholmes9066]

😂😂😂😂😂 Είσαι θεάρος

[@CosmoJ]

@@sherlockholmes9066 i know hahah

[@inkoalawetrust]

You got that wrong too, it's actually Satanas.

[@sherlockholmes9066]

@@inkoalawetrust Probably both

[@RipCityBassWorks]

This new system seems way better, that's pretty self serving to immediately change the system back before actually seeing if the reform works.

[@Iltazyara]

The new system doesn't benefit them directly, so the right wing party immediately repealed it to go back to a less democratic system. This isn't much of a surprise. It's part of the standard right-wing playbook; more democracy is, as a general rule, bad for them.

[@cravingtuna1561]

I am from Greece and the new system was immediately labeled as a failure and most people agree that SYRIZA passed it in bad faith. Basically it technically aims at increase collaboration between parties to make coalition governments. However SYRIZA basically begs every single other party to make a coalition including the far right ones just so that it can make a majority. This would result in a very unstable government and no party actually wants to collaborate with SYRIZA. Also, this law doesn't work with the greek constitution that only gives parties 3 days to form a coalition which is impossible. The old system creates strong governments and avoid what we see in other countries where there are months with no government. One of the reasons why ND saw an increase in their votes is because the people voted against SYRIZA specifically to vote against the new system

[@tobeytransport2802]

@@cravingtuna1561 that is an interesting perspective. I have a Greek friend who voted for New Democracy and he is against the majority bonus but it does make sense as it seems you don’t have so many nuanced parties or centrist parties, unlike other countries where there might be a few centre right parties for example, you just have one.

[@derunfassbarebielecki]

@@cravingtuna1561 The old election system is also the reason Greece is such a shithole. A country under mercy of a single party will always make the wrong decisions and in the long run countries like Germany and France have to pay for this shit and not the Greeks themselves.

[@pelekys1]

It was self serving for Syriza to change the law to begin with. This election has shown that the simple proportional system doesn’t work.

[@MrSandyBruce]

My man needs one of those Tshirts from the youtube ads. Shirt looking like the top of a summer dress 👗🤣😂

[@CARL_093]

its expected congrats again

[@alecmally5433]

Rejiggering election rules rarely pays off. But Syriza found that out the hard way. Good research!

[@wildwolf_0G]

Mitsotakhs = mr.Bean

[@mrshrimpeugene]

Greece any percent election speedrun

[@sav5127]

lmao

[@Atrass7]

yes you are back I thought u got fired where were you ?

[@peterfireflylund]

He’s da boss. Probably busy bossing.

[@Atrass7]

@@peterfireflylund your stating the obvious rn u____u

[@NYAndreas]

The Greek PM's name is Mitsotakis and is pronounced EXACTLY as is written with the accent on the penultimate syllable. There are several videos on KZbin with instructions on how to pronounce the PM's full name correctly and it would have taken just 30 seconds of research that could have prevented this repeated mangling of the Greek leader's name.

[@user-sn6qz5qz4o]

Σου έθιξε τον παπάρα;

[@nicolealexp]

Ηρέμησε λίγο

[@demollyon]

Leader my ass.

[@jimskoutas1933]

σιγα τον ηγετη

[@calvinware7957]

Man Sizra it's almost like running against austerity and then doing austerity was a bad governing strategy

[@hhjikakou2500]

This guy managed to pronounce Kyriakos Mitsotakis different every time he said it: kyriakou, mitsakis, etc. imagine doing all this research and somehow failing on the basics xD

[@NiFoGR]

We need ilias kasidiaris

[@DGoldy303]

Imagine if an MP won a seat in this election but then lost it in the next one. 😅

[@eliahabib5111]

In a proportional system the party that got the bigger share expecting to get even more in the next election, mp are sure to keep their seat. Seat are allocated to the party in amount so if this election the party got 145 seats then the first 145 in the party list got elected. As long as you don't loose the your rank your mp seat is prety locked in.

[@Jkjoannaki]

Unfortunately we can only imagine that

[@anokseidotos]

in the first elections, it goes with votes. when we vote, we vote for the party and for the MP of our district. so at the end if a party gets 3 seats in our district, the top 3 voted members will get those seats. If there cant be a goverment formed and there are second elections, we only vote for party. the party president will choose who will take a parliament spot as he wishes. so this which u described is very plausible. sill i think they will choose the ones with the highest votes anyway...

[@kajamix]

After 8.42 is the best part of this video.

[@yarielrobles9003]

Idk what's worse, tldr uploading at 5am, or me being awake for it

[@jordanjames2956]

Yeah its 4am where I am at.

[@lydzz.z]

there’s actually a very wise greek saying about this topic: “mitsotaki gamiesai”

[@Dinosaur315]

Which obviously means "we love Mitsotakis" 😊 *This comment was posted by the New Democracy party.*

[@massimozanitti5668]

The school behind the first clip with Mhtsotakhs, was my primary school( i know most people dont care but i felt like saying it )

[@marym7104]

Within 3 hours!

[@Nevio857]

End of June, so more grannies will vote since the young will be on vacations

[@kostisdedes4175]

Είδαμε πόσοι πήγαν και τώρα να ψηφίσουν

[@fotis3v480]

Ότι και ν ψηφίσεις δεν θα αλλάξει τίποτα . Ηδικα με την Χρυσή Αυγή εκτός. Εκτός αν θέλετε κομμουνισμό τότε πάσο.

[@soccerguy325]

"The far-right Greek Solution" Wow, they don't sound far right at all 🙃

[@ash_11117]

Just the only right wing party, but this channel is very leftist and globalist as I have learned.

[@mikel9138]

One of the better parties compared to the others

[@NickStrife]

​​​@@mikel9138 if their leader was not a liar I would agree with you.

[@kaloggeorge6791]

​@@mikel9138I hope this is irony

[@soccerguy325]

@@mikel9138 I guess if you're a Nazi they must be "pretty good compared to the others"

[@mrmitai2456]

tip : next time when u say seats and 25% put the numbers on the video its easy for u and is better for viewers

[@constantinospavlitsos4238]

When is the day of the elections?

[@angeloskoulas3988]

The new "reinforced" proportional system is fairer than the old "reinforced" proportional system (used before 2023) as the old one just gave 50 seats to the first party while the new one gives at most 40 seats to the first party (the bonus was fixed at 50 and now it is variable with max 40).

[@orestisbe6978]

The max is 50 still. It just requires 40% for it to happen. And anyways, regular proportional representation was fairer anyways

[@alexvlkvkna]

🇬🇷 🤝 🇧🇬 Political instability

[@dharmagall9082]

This why IRV is better for the election of the lower house.

[@tobeytransport2802]

⁠@@dharmagall9082 what is IRV? Also Greece doesn’t have an upper house.

[@fidemporas]

A day before the elections I told my Bulgarian friend that we would surpass their instability

[@gavasiarobinssson5108]

IMF rules Greece, not the parliament.

[@vasiliyt8600]

@@gavasiarobinssson5108 Not anymore.

[@strategicplays2977]

What did you do to your voice in the ad I am pretty sure you just slowed down the video

[@Evan490BC]

You missed a syllable in PM's name: "MitsOTakis". Edit: The "bonus" of 50 seats for the winning party doesn't exist anymore. It's around 30 seats with the new electoral law.

[@pappasadrian]

πανωλεθρία

[@nikoliniminizoaki2542]

Great video, just wanted to point out some points. - Like others said, 40% of the people ellgible to vote, didn't. - There's been people who have said they have regretted voting for the party they did. - Greek Solution isn't "right to far right", but plain far right, and the party leader had said, at the debate before the elections, that he wants to enforce his ideas on the country. Ideas that would most likely turn Greece into a theocratic dystopia. I wish I was joking. Dude showed a picture of Mary wearing hanfu and described it as a "geisha", "prostitute" and "whore", which makes me incredibly scared of how an either uneducated or intolerant to the different (or both) a man like him to be in power. It just feels like a second "golden dawn" waiting to happen

[@Haris1]

Greek soloution is no where extreme as goldern dawn

[@captainvanisher988]

The first without context is just a bad faith statement. The turnout was best turn out since 2009. The second one is just unproven lies spread by the MSM. The last one is utter garbage. Greek Solution is right to far right. Greek Dawn was far right.

[@pantognost]

Is it only me, or is it surreal for more, to see my language in a video that I’m used to watch in English.

[@bringinitdown.]

Mitsotakis is such a hated figure in Greece but most young people don't vote. Also all the opposition parties are divided. Mitsotakis will be the new Erdogan/Orban for Greece.

[@sarafisioannis2097]

sadly yeah

[@Gamaouat]

mitsotakis took more % by young people than tsipras did

[@Marcus_Aurelius_6]

6:54 *June 25

[@billytompkins6633]

Obviously they dont sound fun at all. But whats the reason the The Greeks party was banned? As Greece has had far right parties before

[@gaswe9236]

People started coming to the realisation that they are not political parties but instead terrorist organizations and they have started being disbanded when commiting unconstitutional atrocities. Golden Dawn was already a big strike on Greek democracy and now they don't want to allow this again

[@transcedentalunity9475]

Mitsotakis hates playing fair so they changed laws and bribed judges to ban them. Minds you Mitsotakis has gained full control of the media by buying them out with government money and passing censorship laws.

[@jiannis.0345]

Because ND feared that they whould become third party and basically making unable to for a government

[@vaggant5557]

Because the leader was a big member of golden dawn, the Neo-Nazi political party that in 2020 was condemed as a criminal organisation. The leader is right now in jail

[@perseusarkouda]

ND uses far right parties as wild cards. Nothing new.

[@stevejohnson3357]

Taking this route should cost the Greek government some seats. Where they are they don't really need coalition partners and can just seek the support of 1 party issue by issue. What it looks like and what they must be counting on is major splintering on the left.

[@giorgoschatzakis6056]

A good idea for a video is who might be the next leaders- prime minister of Greece after Mitsotakis. Tripras and Mitsotakis are unlikely to lead their parties in the 2027 elections: Nikos Dendias/ND. A popular minister, currently of foreign affairs. He comes from the more centrist wing of New Democracy. Effie Achtsioglou /SYRIZA. Former minister of Labour, with great experience in parliament and a very polite and strong woman or Efclyd Tsakalotos, former minister of finance. Also Pasok Leader Nikos Androulakis. The most known victim of the watergate scandal and former MEP. Yes I am not a big Supporter o Mitsotakis, but its true his goverment has brought some basic stability

[@anokseidotos]

tsipras will probably leave (or kicked out) by the end of this july. mitsotakis managed to increase his party votes after 4 year of turmoil with covid, war in ukraine, raise of prices. there isnt anyone who will challenge him at 2027. if then he loose, then maybe he will be challenged. but certaintly not before.. androulakis shows that he can raise pasok rating even more, and people seem to believe in him. doubt he will be replaced by 2027. if plefsi eleftherias and diem25 dont enter both this and the 2027 parliament, they are gonna disband though...

[@mariosathens1]

Greece needs to keep on with its reforms and the Greek political parties doesn't have a "coalition culture". The coalition governments can't deliver actual reforms cause the Greek political leaders cannot agree if out there is day or night. The people wanted a stable gov that will keep on with its reforms.

[@flukos79]

actually the underperforming of syriza has to do with a statement made a party mp that social security cost (according to his opinion) should be in association with the income of the people. Then the whole system, and rightfully so, accused them for having a secret agenda. That's what happens when you can't control your MP's Alexaki file mou

[@royaldog3539]

Audio was a bit wierd this video

[@yiannchrst]

Ey! Greece mentioned! (i should of said that on your daily channel, but oh well) I am a 16 yo Greek, I barely didn't vote this time, but I have so many thoughts... Let's see what you say now!

[@orynx2835]

Dude you are 16 , you can't vote at all 😂

[@yiannchrst]

@@orynx2835 yes, if you could read you would have noticed I mention this.

[@orynx2835]

@Giannis Christoforidis you mention that you are a 16 years old , so far so good , then immediately after that statement. " I barely didn't vote this time" what do you mean by that? Barely? But you can't vote in the first place how could you barely vote??? A sentence that makes sense is " I barely voted today , I was almost late !" Or something like that.

[@yiannchrst]

@@orynx2835 you have to be 17 to vote and I am almost 17, so I barely didn't vote

[@tlaz7059]

Some facts to help you understand how Greek people think. On 20 February just 10 days before the deadly train disaster happen,some members of the opposition party and the parliament in general, set some safety issues about public transportation and specifically about the safety of trains.The minister of transportation responded "I feel ashamed that you set safety issues, and I can assure you the train system works with the highest safety standards" 10 days later 2 trains crashed frontally and hundreds of young people died. He resigned 2 days later from the ministry. However he was again candidate and the Greek people voted for him bringing him in the 1st place with insane difference from the 2nd in his region just 2 months after this tragic event. As a Greek I feel so embarrassed.

[@zhshsG7]

As a Greek I feel embarrassed about the opposition weaponizing the accident against the current government. I voted for ND this time for the first time in my life because of this. And while the accident is definitely ND's fault to an extent, it is no less the fault of the previous governments in the past 30-40 years, as well as regular people who are being paid but not doing their duties in the public sector, which is nothing new in Greece. Personally, I cannot imagine the minister of ANY party giving priority to trains, that haven't caused accidents in decades, over all the other issues that get air time in the media. Meanwhile, the country has been doing well these 4 years, for the first time in one and a half decades. All that despite the pandemic, the crisis in Evros and the crisis in energy & food caused by Russia's new war. So yeah, I think this is populism and it is unfairly blamed on this government. Even if I assume that the minister of transportation is a bad minister. My 2 cents.

[@aantony2001]

@@zhshsG7 It's by far the fault of the current government more than any others, even if they all are to blame. The Minister was informed of the problems in Parliament, and instead of fixing them he criticised the opposition for bringing them up. The rail workers were talking about the issues and going on strikes about them, and the government, instead of fixing them, criticised the workers. The manager responsible for the safety of the network protested about the dangers. After nothing being done, he resigned, no longer being able to be responsible for a government doing nothing. A bunch of other train accidents occured before the deadly one. Thankfully nobody died then, but the government did nothing, they waited for people to die first. Just after the current government was elected, there was a fire in the local center for managing train traffic. It was not fixed. The day after the accident, Mitsotakis had scheduled the presentation of the new safety system for trains in Northern Greece. There was no such system. He was going to lie about there being one, but he was preempted by the children dying. After the accident, the government said sorry, at the same time recognising no mistakes (making it meaningless and insulting). It stopped the trains until they could be fixed. They weren't fixed. They just told people they were fixed, and gave workers documents to sign, saying they knew about the problems, so they could be responsible in the case of a new accident. All these are the responsibility of the current government and nobody else. There were also long-standing problems caused by all previous governments (most of the previous governments also being lead by the current party in power). Long-standing in general are the responsibility of those that cause then, and everybody after that doesn't fix them. So the current government is also at fault for all the old mistakes it didn't fix, together with the ones that caused them, as well as for the ones that it did fix. You also absolutely don't have to vote for any of the parties that caused these long-standing problems. In the 21st century, we have had three government parties, ND (12 years), PASOK (7 years), and SYRIZA (4 years). You can vote for a multitude of other parties that have not destroyed the country. Thankfully, there is a lot of discussion due to the result, and we will have another election, so your vote isn't set in stone. You can vote something different, not among these three parties, in the next election.

[@foxred1007]

@@zhshsG7 " I voted for ND this time for the first time in my life because of this." Are you kidding me? ND weaponised Mati and Mandra and yet you voted for them ?And no we are not doing well financially. Those are fairy tales by ND

[@user-wc9eh6se5p]

Tlaz . You era not accurate. Do you feel depressed?

[@panosdemos8313]

@@zhshsG7 this is what you're telling your self in order to justified your dedication in ND party and nothing more, you know better than this and I'm sure about it

[@estevacbanito]

Μησάκης 💀

[@nameless4973]

Also something you didnt mention but I feel worth noting, is that only around 60% of the people (that were supposed to vote) voted.

[@hamlet557]

As in every election the last 10 years. I don't know why no one mentioned it in 2015 but remembered it only now.

[@konstantinazafiripantar]

His name is Mitsotakis, not Mitsakis

[@Fyrapan90]

The real issue with Greece corrupt political system won't be addressed by neither of those parties winning. The end result is the same and unless this drastically changes Greece will always be a lesser version of what it can be and ultimately the people will suffer for it.

[@Giorgos.Sarris]

Νίκο η αλήθεια ειναι πως σε αυτές τις εκλογές συμμετείχε το 60% που σημαίνει μάλιστα και 3% αύξηση από το 2019.

[@Fyrapan90]

@@Giorgos.Sarris Μπορεί να έχετε δίκιο όσον αφορά το πόσοι άνθρωποι ψήφισαν, ωστόσο πιστεύω ότι εάν θέλουμε η Ελλάδα να γίνει πραγματικά μια καλύτερη χώρα τότε αυτό το διεφθαρμένο σύστημα που βρίσκεται στη ραχοκοκαλιά της Ελλάδας σήμερα και είναι εδώ και δεκαετίες πρέπει να αλλάξει διαφορετικά. Δεν βλέπω κανένα καλό μέλλον για την Ελλάδα κατά τη γνώμη μου. Καμία άλλη χώρα δεν θα πάρει την Ελλάδα στα σοβαρά, εκτός αν πρώτα αυτή η αλλαγή και όλα ξεκινούν από τον λαό που απαιτεί αλλαγή και θέλει αλλαγή.

[@Giorgos.Sarris]

Έχεις δίκιο. Συμφωνώ ότι η ραχοκοκαλιά της χώρας μαστίζεται από διαφθορά τόσο στο πολιτικό σύστημα αλλά και κυρίως στην κοινωνία. Προσωπικά είμαι αισιόδοξος αλλά καταλαβαίνω την πλευρά σου και σίγουρα δεν έχεις άδικο

[@vasiliyt8600]

Niko, you are very wrong. 60,92% of the citizens *participated* in the national vote. Which is more than the last two elections. 8 years ago! In 2019 it was 57,78% (winner Nea Dimokratia) In 2015 it was 56,16% (winner SYRIZA) In 2012 it was 62,49% (winner Nea Dimokratia)

[@Fyrapan90]

@@vasiliyt8600 Yes I guess I am wrong about the people voting.

[@manolisvl46]

The only "left" there is in any of the Greek parties is the leg they use to climb those huge range rovers they use for moving around....

[@bdz_4206]

Could you do a deeper dive into Mitsakis (Mitsotakis) or Koulis of you really respect the man. Our McKinsey & Company Prime Minister, I'm not homeless yet, but tourists' life is significantly more important that the citizenry of Greece.