Sweden's Political Crisis: How Andersson Only Lasted 7 Hour as Prime Minister - TLDR News

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On Wednesday Sweden chose their new Prime Minister Magdalena Andersson, then they passed the opposition party budget, leading the government to collapse and Andersson to step down. So in this video, we explain how Sweden had such a dramatic day and what happens next for Sweden.
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[@fiendish9474]

this any% cabinet speedrun is crazy, let's see if anyone can beat it

[@w0rmblood323]

I hear Summoning Salt is already writing a world record history on this subject.

[@drlukas4242]

For somebody to beat it would actually be millions to one.

[@ioannisd00]

LOL, this is exactly what it sounds like

[@CairnsG]

Next one will be a pm that resigns after 5 minutes.

[@zefyrisd69]

I mean it's going to be hard to win against Louis XiX when it comes to shortest time in power. The guy's reign lasted less than 20 min, since he resigned right after accessing the throne, the 20 min were literally the time it took to complete the formalities.

[@eduardoquirino8131]

The good Lady was finance minister for several years. She could not serve as Prime Minister because the opposition passed their own budget. This budget was not up to the new Prime Minister's standards so it was wise for her to step down. She has the interests of the country at heart and decided to serve her country by stepping down. Lady with great integrity and dignity.

[@Chiarcineesti]

Can you also do a Video about Austria and their political crisis?

[@oliverkarehag9883]

As a Swede I think you summed it up quite well.

[@mattiiful]

Political instability? *Laughs in Belgian*

[@JaegerDreadful]

7:10 you forgot to take out the extra take mate

[@aeydra]

So politics is messy even in Scandinavia...

[@aromanlegionnair5096]

Its politics, what else would you expect

[@mr.hitchens]

My goodness, dear narrator. Please sit on your hands. I've seen orchestras conducted with less hand waving. Really distracting.

[@geryon]

Our first female prime minister in Finland lasted two months and I thought that was brief. Sweden set a tough record to beat with this one.

[@jmolofsson]

Ha!, ha! Finland has a nice record. Rehn _almost_ became president.

[@E4439Qv5]

Heh. Kamala Harris was Acting Chief of the U.S. for an hour and twenty-five minutes a couple weeks ago.

[@valentinmitterbauer4196]

The first female chancellor of austria was not elected but put in place by the president due to a government crisis. She wasn't only the first female chancellor, but also the first one that didn't got elected, but appointed.

[@valentinmitterbauer4196]

@Federal Bureau of Investigation Thatcher

[@KNYD]

@Federal Bureau of Investigation Finland has for years had a completely female led government, most of whom are in their 30s, including the prime minister Sanna Marin. Marin is the fourth female prime minister and at the time of election was the youngest prime minister in the world.

[@mateyp3365]

Sweden: Oh no, not 2 elections in a short time Bulgaria: Pathetic

[@michaeldaveapo7207]

Spain: First Time?

[@afterburnerfox]

Israel: hold my dreidel

[@Hatbot-vn4py]

Italy: pathetic

[@honeynutreviews332]

Canada: first time?

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Ireland in the 80’s.

[@noahengleson123]

Correction on the budget vote: the Center party didn't vote together with the opposition, they voted on their own budget proposal, which is customary to do when you aren't a part of the government. The opposition budget passed since it had more positive votes than the governments. The center party would have tipped the scale towards the government's budget but voted on a third, independent option instead.

[@OHOE1]

She was never the prime minister tho, to formally become the prime minister the king has to validate her.

[@Cythil]

And on the budget. It was not the full budget. But a budget amendment. And not the first time this sort of thing has happened, even if it is rare. So there is a bit of missing context in the video.

[@DigitalAwakening]

The fact that C voted on their own budget doesn't really matter as budgets are voted on 2 at a time and not a 3 way split. But they did abstain their vote in the final matchup. Which is commonly done when voting on your own budget. This budget is also only a framework of where money goes.

[@lucaskp16]

@@OHOE1 she was since she was electrd the king has no say in this rrally since his position would noy last long if he shows oposition to democracy

[@Luredreier]

@@lucaskp16 That's not how kingdoms works. It's like saying someone is a President in the US before being sworn in. Yes, you're right that the King or Queen doesn't formally *decide* who becomes prime minister anymore, but they *do* instate the prime minister after an election, making their position formal in the same way a swearing in of a president in the US does.

[@knughaxTheOne]

I like that the Liberals were not even mentioned. It very accurately shows how politically irrelevant they have become as everyone expect them to fall out of parliament at the election.

[@DaDunge]

That's because they are superfluous Sweden already have a centre right party, the Centre party. They could have taken the centre left position where there's an open spot but no they keep electing ever more conservative leaders.

[@sup3rAVATARtlafAN]

Yhea they haven't really said much though, they just voted for their own budget and whatever afterwards.

[@k.j.hulander2204]

If they don’t get in there’s basically no chance for the right to win a majority and form a government. So for those of us who want a Sweden free of facist politics, that could ba a good thing, even if we lean Liberal ideologically.

[@informitas0117]

If they are still here after the next election I'd be shocked.

[@DaDunge]

@@k.j.hulander2204 This mess happens because we have too many small parties, as a former member if the liberal party, it's time they get knocked out.

[@maggge89]

Center did not vote for the opposition budget, they voted for there own budget.

[@Nofanofpolitics]

It is obvious what happened. The left as shafted to think that the moderates would go along with a left budget proposal. I’m surprise the left went along with this sham.

[@hugohugo8262]

It is practically the same

[@maggge89]

@@hugohugo8262 The result was same, but Center keeps saying that both the former Communist party V and the far right party SD are both extrem and that they will never work with any of them.

[@HugoTheComradSkeletal]

@@hugohugo8262 Cool name

[@envispojke]

These lines in the sand needs to be dropped. The left party (V) effectively cooperated with SD to force out Löfven in june. I didnt vote V or SD but good on them for doing what they think is right. This would've been impossible to imagine before. Until Dadgostar took over, V was definitely the "most anti-SD" party, now the Greens and the Center party (C) seem to have taken over the torch. I might be wrong but I assume most people want their vote to have as much influence on politics as possible - in practice, not symbollicaly! If C just stopped talking about "not cooperating with extremists" and rather made a deal with V, we would have a functioning government running on their own budget (well, mostly, lol) until the next election. If the Greens just... Ceased to be, yeah that'd be great.

[@Slaynthewizard]

Stefan Löfven: ”Thanks for 7 years” Magdalena Andersson: ”Thanks for 7 hours”

[@NeverEverClever]

Next prime minister: "Thanks for 7 minutes"

[@Anonymous-df8it]

Swedish prime ministers in 2030: “Thanks for seven plank times”

[@agffans5725]

Well It has just been Black Friday, so everything is at a much lower price or time.

[@pistolen87]

I'm Swedish and this was a better summary of the situation than presented in most Swedish media.

[@amalsrivastava6853]

It was really good. me an Indian who has no idea about swedish politics understood it very well

[@vonnikon]

Well, except Andersson certainly is not a "president elect" 😅

[@SimplyVanis]

That's what happens when you try to explain something to rubber ducky. You need to start from the beginning with no knowledge.

[@HugoTheComradSkeletal]

Yup completely agree, both SVT and other non-public media don't really summarize it quite like TLDR does. Very good job!

[@eliasstenman3710]

I feel like you would get this explained in most Swedish explanations too.

[@LetsTakeWalk]

She wasn’t prime-minister for a full workday.

[@patrik5123]

Typical of the left :-D

[@virreification]

She wasn't prime minister at all, only prime-minister elect. Löfven is still the prime minister of Sweden.

[@slickrick2420]

@@patrik5123 Meanwhile, right wingers don't work at all and instead complain on Twitter because someone speaks a different language than them :-D

[@thethirdfrenchempire1556]

Ok leftist and commie

[@bokonoo77]

@@slickrick2420 >right wingers >on twitter I would have understand it if you said 4chan but twitter? nah mate

[@lmao4982]

Great summary! I would like to emphasize that the yes/abstain distinction is purely optics. The mandate maths are what they are - you need to find a constellation of parties that form a majority. When a party votes abstain rather than yes, it is just a way to signal that they're giving reluctant support.

[@lmao4982]

On another note I'm always impressed when this channel covers swedish politics. It makes you trustworthy for other countries' politics.

[@OHOE1]

She was never the prime minister tho, to formally become the prime minister the king has to validate her.

[@pelledanasten1615]

@@OHOE1 Are you sure you're not thinking of the UK?

[@KrappiTheClown]

​@@pelledanasten1615 If you want to be picky, the new prime minister is validated by the speaker during a meeting (konselj) "in the presence" of the head of state. So the head of state may not actually DO anything, but he or she has to BE PRESENT... Which is very important... somehow... (Regeringsformen 6 kap. 6$ " När riksdagen har godkänt ett förslag om ny statsminister, ska han eller hon så snart det kan ske anmäla de övriga statsråden för riksdagen. Därefter äger regeringsskifte rum vid en särskild konselj inför statschefen eller, om statschefen har förhinder, inför talmannen. Talmannen ska alltid kallas till konseljen. Talmannen utfärdar förordnande för statsministern på riksdagens vägnar.")

[@Luredreier]

@@KrappiTheClown Hum, not how we do it here in Norway. And if I'm reading that correct the speaker of the parliament can take on the role of the king if and *only* if the king is unable to attend a council approving the ministers.

[@mab9614]

I remember seeing the news, Sweden had its first female PM. Hours later, I saw the news that she resigned... Lol Let’s see if Madam Andersson and the SD can forgive the Greens (since their exit caused a “losing face” situation for her on an international scale). Edit: SD- Social Democratic Party

[@user-vb2ur5us6i]

Do you mean the Sweden Democrats (SD) or the Social Democrats (S)?

[@ryankahler2034]

They should blame the center party for this crisis, refusing to work with another coalition member and then siding with the opposition to pass a new budget

[@mab9614]

@@user-vb2ur5us6i I will give you a hint: which party does Madam Andersson belongs to?

[@PetterssonRobin]

@@ryankahler2034 nah, they have been cristal clear during the negotiations that the commies should have no influence on the budget, if they were to support it. Since the socialists did in fact negotiate with the commies anyway, the center party was right not to vote for it. The real culprit here is unfortunately the green party, that left the government with no prior warning. They were the ones that could have prevented this. You can't blame the centrists for voting for their own budget proposal.

[@PetterssonRobin]

@@user-vb2ur5us6i Pretty sure OP means the social democrats (S) in this context, and not the Sweden democrats (SD)

[@munkensvrede3332]

Couple of corrections: Stefan Löfvens resignation was far from unexpected. He has been the leader for the social democrats for almost a decade and the party wanted a change. This would also give Magdalena Andersson experience as PM before the election. The social democrats has historically had between 40-50+% of the votes but the last elections has given only around 20-30%. The political landscape has been tested thoroughly as the Swedendemocrats got over the 4%-limit 2010. They were seen as radical and extreme by all other parties even though they got around 20% during the election 2018. This forced the very unstable January-coalition between the Social democrats, Green party, Liberals and Centreparty with backing from the left party in order to keep Stefan Löfven as the PM. However, the Liberals and the Centreparty are rightwing on the spectrum and was promised by Löfven that the left party wouldn’t get any influence. This last year however, a new block has been formed by the Moderates, Christdemocrats and Liberals with backing from the Swedendemocrats which ultimately ends the January-coalition and the goal of keeping Swedendemocrats out of influence. Governing with an oppositions budget has been done before in these uncertain times, however this is the first time the Sweden democrats has been giving influence in that budget. Because of this, the green party left the government as they are very keen to show distance to the sweden democrats. Great video however, love to see stuff about Sweden!

[@tdkyt46]

So centrist parties are right wing exclusively? How does this work because it just sounds like leftist extremism such like America, put anything that isn't far left as far right just not right wing or centrist. I don't get it could you explain please because I keep seeing these parties being called far-right and no real saying of centrist and such

[@munkensvrede3332]

@@tdkyt46 Whoah I never called the Centerparty far right? The centerparty has its roots in the farming community with a lot of focus on helping small businesses outside of Sweden’s largest cities. Their main coalition partners during the last decades has been the “right block” containing of the liberals, moderates and christian democrats and haven’t been keen at all to cooperating with the social democrats. They have instead been pushing for more outsourcing of state-owned services to private companies - a big no no for the swedish left block. So even if they’re called centrist they’ve really been leaning to the right quite hard in the last decades. However, as they are the only right-leaning party alternative left if you don’t want to support the sweden democrats influence, they find themselves alone in the middle. Too right-leaning for the left but still no urge for cooperation with the right. It’s worth mentioning that the political spectrum in Sweden is very leftist when compared with other countries. Sweden’s right block is by far more leftist than the most left-leaning democrats in the US. This is mostly due to almost half of a century with a social democratic majority parliament in the 1900s which transformed Sweden from a straight up poor country to one of the most prosperous in just a few decades. With this in mind, the centerparty seems right wing, though with international context they’re to the left.

[@frederikbrandt424]

@@tdkyt46 Sweden is pretty much the America of Scandinavia, total chaos in that country from top to bottom. So your comparison is very good.

[@JohanJonasson]

@@munkensvrede3332 I believe a fairly large majority of the current Center party voters or prospective voters have stated that they would prefer a left wing prime minister over a right wing one. If that's the case then it's possible that they will slowly start to drift left of center quite soon, even though their economic policies are anything but, currently. Either way, their currently position can't reasonably be sustainable for much longer in my assessment.

[@Bagge24]

@@frederikbrandt424 Yes, I cant wait to the day sweden makes it legal to own your own firearms for selfdefence. Since the Socialdemocrats and the left-wing police force have put the real problems aside causing sweden to get split up, malmö is soon the new detroit.

[@nassreddintaibi5796]

6:20 C did not vote for the right-wing opposition budget! They voted for their own budget. So the vote looked like this: Government budget -> 143 votes Right wing opposition budget -> 154 C budget -> 31 L budget -> 20

[@henrik2518]

Technically nothing happened, Andersson was never prime minister. The only thing noteworthy that happened was that the speaker of the riksdag/parliament called out the Greens for causing this waste of time.

[@amandapanda7416]

Yeah she was. She just didn’t have a government

[@woom_y]

This was never the fault of MP. This is the fault of C, who flip-flop between stupid policies all the time. Either you let through a government, or you don't.

[@squimped]

@@amandapanda7416 No, she was elected but had not formally become prime minister as that was supposed to happen today the 26th at the "konselj" at the royal palace with the head of state (the king).

[@frisedel]

@@amandapanda7416 no she really wasn't since she never took office. she was elected and was SUPPOSED to, but never had the chance to do so. I know that this is in some way semantics but it really is that bad

[@rin_etoware_2989]

funny to hear of the Green Party being so wasteful

[@mr.alarak2587]

I wish you'd do a report on Romania's political situation. It would be really interesting because you guys already did one on Bulgaria

[@wargamerproducions]

as a non-Romanian i want to know whats happening there too, please report on Romania!

[@OHOE1]

got to love his swedish

[@stormruner9183]

Incoming report from Roumania: The situation is pretty fuckin teribble (as always).

[@Dunlop1996]

My Romanian mate told me loosely about it, so I second a proper video on it!

[@kundbalint4091]

@@wargamerproducions In a nutshell: Two long time enemies and a party, whom everyone hates (even the people, they represent) decided, to form a government together, after the country had none for a month. The funny part is, that Romania changing her government and having none for a couple of weeks, in every year, is not only totally normal, but expected. Since the 1989 revolution, the country changed her Prime Minister 26 times. In the last 9 years, we've had 14 different Prime Ministers.

[@sketchye5943]

Hey guys today I’m going to do Prime minister resignation speedrun !

[@nejdalej]

*summoning salt music blares *

[@Trolligarch]

Trying to govern with an opposition budget is such a wild concept. In the UK, a failure to pass the budget is construed as a vote of no confidence so this just can't happen.

[@jmolofsson]

The differences are minute. It's largely symbolics. But green issues suffered. The reaction of the Greens is, to some degree, understandable. They don't want the judgement of the voters for something the Center Party created. The Greens can't afford that when on the verge of losing all their seats due to the 4% hurdle.

[@Theorimlig]

This opposition budget was pretty much a copy + paste job with only the prestigious issues changed. Ruling on a budget that is not that different from your own for less than a year until the next election wouldn't be much of a problem. If you have to resign if your budget doesn't pass you may as well not have separate votes on who forms a government and the budget.

[@jmolofsson]

@@Theorimlig When seeing/listening to reactions from foreign countries, one sometimes get the impression that politically interested people abroad are more excitable while in Sweden, pragmatism is valued.

[@gustavian1596]

It has happened before though. Stefan Löfven was forced to govern with a right-wing budget several times during his reign as PM.

[@hens0w]

It been a possiblity since 2011 but theres a bill that has passed the Commons, now in the Lords, to change this. But as we have tradition of majority goverment its not been lightly.

[@lind3223]

The speaker of parliament actually called out MP (greens) for potentially damaging the reputation of our democracy, since they didn't inform him in any way that they would leave the government if the opposition budget passed. If they had, he could have put the vote for Magdalena at a later date so that the budget vote would take place first. Some argue that the speaker could have asked MP what they would do if the other budget passed, but that would be like a teacher telling their students that he/she didn't inform them of an upcoming exam because they didn't ask about it.

[@johanneskarlsson3859]

6:43 It should be said that the Center Party did not negotiate or vote for the opposition's budget. So this picture is somewhat misleading.

[@ricardogaliano9333]

Sorry I didn’t know that The Left Party was officially called “The Ex-Communist” left party. Come on guys!

[@DaDunge]

It's important to understand why the Centre doesn't want them to have influence on the budget.

[@ricardogaliano9333]

@@DaDunge Yeah, sure. No redscare involved… I mean, the party shifted from its previous stances in 1964 with the election of Eurocommunist C H Hermansson and collaborated openly with the socialdemocrats since the 1953 congress where anti-oportunism was purged in the party. So I rather feel it’s a bit too tilted towards scaremongering. That’s like pretending the Spanish PCE is a radical communist cell… Ehem. Sure. But sure, if we ought to call everybody by their previous positions we should consider the Moderate Party the party that voted against universal male suffrage and female suffrage. Sounds a bit fishy doesn’t it?

[@DaDunge]

@@ricardogaliano9333 That was a hundred years ago.

[@ricardogaliano9333]

@@DaDunge Yep. Precisely. Studying the subtleties of the evolution of one or other political structures requires commitment with a nuanced analysis of their orientations, discourse, factions, history, etc. So using certain shortcomings once can be understandable but up to three times out of context and with no further explanation just doesn’t reflect the kind of rigor one expects. It’s not dooming but just pesky.

[@serax126]

@@ricardogaliano9333 In more reacnt decades they had a leader who was openly a commie while he was the leader so it's still revelant

[@PMMagro]

She will be voted in as PM next week very likely. Now as a one party goverment. The opposition leader is not even available as PM right now (he says no to be a candidate as is). The political parties are manouvering for next years election already (short term politics). A bit weird but what could be more important for a politican than their own job?

[@Theorimlig]

He actually said yesterday he would try to form a government if asked by the speaker, but that was mostly a way of putting pressure on the Centre Party.

[@unformedeight]

She just wanted the world first swedish female PM achievement

[@v1das007]

The world doesn't care.

[@erikthomsen4768]

@@v1das007 I think that’s quite a bit of a generalization of a planet. Conversely it wouldn’t be particularly unique in Scandinavia. So you’re not completely off the mark.

[@v1das007]

@@erikthomsen4768 That was my point. Policy is much more important than the gender of your new PM. I don't get this strange excitement about her being a woman, as if something unheard of has happened.

[@flashfm7456]

She wears that little badge proudly on her Steam profile.

[@NathanaelTak]

I'm astounded you were able to both research and understand a government's system AND convey that information relatively simply! I barely understand my own country's government (but that may be a commentary on education more than complexity)

[@SRR-rh7id]

Unfortunately I also do not have an aptitude for politics and government workings etc. But I still love watching videos about these things, even if I struggle to keep up.

[@DanielBlomqvist]

Good to see some Swedish coverage. Some comments; The result between the Social democrats (s) and the Left (v) was not included in the budget. Instead there will be a separate government proposal this coming spring. The budget passed with an amendment from some (m, kd, sd) opposition parties, not a completely new budget. Also, the Left dropped communism från their party name in 1990.

[@leiftorbjorn5621]

That’s why he said “ex communist” and not “communist”

[@PetterssonRobin]

It is noteworthy though, that the last party leader of V not too long ago actually came out as a communist during his leadership of that party. Even if they are not officially communists, many members still hold those ideas

[@tinahalder8416]

@@PetterssonRobin i still don't understand why European and westerns r so afraid/ agitated by communism.

[@Luddevige]

They don't say the ex-nazi party about the Sweden Democrats, even though it was created by nazis in 1988.

[@PajamaMan44]

@@tinahalder8416 probably because it’s evil and some euros in the east had first hand experience

[@OligoGlyco-ui8sk]

France: *P A T H E T I C*

[@canberk1667]

French system is pathetic. It resembles one man dictatorship rather. Which creates high probability of corruption, resentment, distress and massive protests like yellow vests.

[@marczhu7473]

Remember over here in France corrupt people stick to power even if they get scandal.

[@daniel931016]

The speaker of the parliament said this morning on Nyhetsmorgon (swedish morning show) that he was most disappointed with the Green party not being honest about their intent regarding ruling with an opposition budget. They didn't tell the speaker about leaving the government if the opposition's budget won, which was very likely by that point. If the Green party told him this then he would have given them more time to negotiate before holding the vote.

[@louisr6560]

Is it normal in swedish politics to run with an opposition budget? Because to me it sounds ludicrous.

[@xway2]

@@louisr6560 No, but it's happened at least once before in recent memory. And yeah, they're generally quite unhappy about it. This time Andersson knew what was coming, so she reluctantly accepts.

[@daniel931016]

@@louisr6560 no, that is partly why the Green party left the government. It is shameful for the ruling party. It is not only the fact that it is "only" the opposition's budget, it is also that the budget contain right wing reforms that would have to be carried out by a left wing government. Therefore it is shameful.

[@daniel931016]

@@xway2 no, Andersson hoped her budget would pass. The center party didn't let it and that made the Green party leave. When the Green party left Andersson thought her government would be too weak to rule, hence her resignation.

[@MultiKommandant]

@@daniel931016 Always interesting to see how inter-party politics works. Is this particular scenario a uniquely Swedish phenomenon, or do other Scandinavian nations have similar stonewalls?

[@TheGreenLegend]

Constantly referring to "Vänsterpartiet" as "The ex communist left party" is very weird to me even if it is completely accurate. I'd say it gives off the same vibe as if you'd constantly refer to the Tories in the UK as "The ex pro-apartheid conservative party".

[@vanyadolly]

That struck me as weird too lol.

[@TheJacklikesvideos]

Yes, historical ties to genocidal policies carries a weighted reputation.

[@snuffeldjuret]

I prefer when people are honest about how they view things, that way it makes it easier for me to interpret what they say.

[@jonatanrullman]

That is one of the most stupid analogies I have ever seen. Starting with that "pro-aparatheid" isn't a mainstream political or philosophical system and that, no matter what their name is, VPK hasn't stopped being communist. One would only have to read briefly in the party program to understand that.

[@TheGreenLegend]

@@jonatanrullman You gotta have an extremely wide definition of communism but okay.

[@johanbjorhn2646]

Strange calling Vänsterpartiet former communist but not calling Svergiedemokraterna former neo nazis. I feel like it should be either both or neither considering both parties history.

[@martynpage4823]

Sorry....not all agree with your point.....SD party are a Nazi party and seem to be working in alliance with the KD party and V party which is a disaster for Sweden.... If people are stupid enough to allow Ulf Kristersson, Ebba Busch and Jimmie Åkesson build a government in Sweden - then a lot of people will leave the country....Come on a Nazi party with a Christian party and the Left party running the country....God help us because we are going to need help!!!

[@Unknownmonkey13]

@@martynpage4823 Ulf Kristersson is not leader for V, he's leader for M. The opposition would never in a million years allow V to have any influence in their governments/budgets.

[@halamadrid5238]

Because the left literally had "Left party the communists" as their name while SD has never had any official Nazi policies. SD had a decent amount of individual nazis yes, but the party as a whole has never driven nazi policies.

[@serax126]

@@martynpage4823 If SD is a nazi party then what 19% of our population is nazis, ya I don't think so

[@hinken3716]

@@serax126 is it impossible for 20% of a nations population to agree with nazi politics?

[@Merle1987]

That's cool that they can have opposition budgets under their system. In Canada every budget is a confidence matter.

[@jmolofsson]

Actually, I agree. But through American culture's dominance, quite a few Swedes believe the US system to be "better"

[@jarjarbinks6018]

@@jmolofsson I don’t think the Swedish and American systems are alike but isn’t it also possible for an American president to have an opposition budget if there is a divided government or something like that? I might be understanding the American parliamentary system wrong though

[@levytaxes1454]

@@jarjarbinks6018 The opposition would have to have a supermajority in congress to be able to pass a budget as the President can veto any legislation passed by both houses of congress if the legislation has less than 2/3rds support from legislatures. So if the senate passes a budget with less than 67/100 and the house passes it with less than 290/435 the president can veto it. It's practically impossible for a supermajority of the opposition to get voted in with a president of a different party in the same election. If the president's party doesn't have a majority it usually ends in a compromise for a budget. Maybe a temporary gov shutdown.

[@Lunkanize]

Actually t was amendments to the governments budget that was passed. If say the moderate party’s whole budget would have won there would have been considered a vote of no confidence and the pm would have resigned,

[@peterrowe5892]

This is the first time I’ve tuned in to your post. I find it very informative and a brilliant production. I will certainly tune in again. Good luck.

[@E4439Qv5]

May I recommend one of this channel's previous videos, explaining how we got here with the parties in question?

[@DaDunge]

0:25 No, only from your "first past the post" point of view does this look like a political crisis. For Sweden this was a regular Thursday.

[@jmolofsson]

Indeed! Foreign events always look extra exciting.

[@JRedNose]

Agreed. Legally it was little more than a clerical oversight, practically it was something to watch while nomming popcorn, politically it was(is) a bid for approval in time for next years' election. Amusing, for sure, but ultimately of little consequence.

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

You have to understand one thing, the simplistic mind of the English voter cannot grasp more complex electoral and parliamentary setups...

[@editorrbr2107]

@@oldskoolmusicnostalgia whew. Chaunism much?

[@covfefe1787]

thats wrong because the SD have the political power now and their influence is growing because the government doesn’t listen to the people soon enough they will be the second biggest party in the riksdag

[@MaoThe1st]

I bet all East Europeans watching the video sighed in relief, realizing this sort of sh*tshow can happen even in an established Western democracy like Sweden. "We are not alone" :D

[@DaDunge]

This is not a shitshow this is working as designed, Sweden is made to be able to be ruled with a minority government.

[@jmolofsson]

Good for central and Eastern Europeans, good for Danes, Belgians and Italians. Good for news outlets in Sweden, they get some extra sales. And good as a reminder for the Swedes. This has been the most exciting happening since the formation of this minority government, three years ago.

[@ermin2248]

except Russia, Poland and Hungary which governments are made by single party

[@walrus1074]

@@ermin2248 polish government is not made up of a single party its made up of a coalition the Law and Justice Party(the largest party), United Poland, and Jaroslaw Gowin Agreement and they have only a 2 voter majority so if any of the coalition partners leaves the government collapses, also Hungary's government is a coalition but techincally Fidesz still has a majority and KDNP is puppet partner, Russia on the other hand though...

[@ermin2248]

@@walrus1074 you're right but those parties in coalition are basicly PIS's puppets

[@Red0543]

Didn’t expect this video, but I’m pleasantly surprised! :)

[@fanjan7527]

This is actually hilarious. Parties and leaders fight over preference and support, meanwhile, the people suffer. There is no consequences for leaders not doing their job of representing the people or making sure an economy is strong.

[@simonaarflot4743]

Sweden has a strong public management and agencies capable of handling themselves, but your word are very true and I'm sad that bureaucracy can so easily disregard for peoples suffering. I guess some detachment makes them look strong for public opinon even if it's skew.

[@littlesaints91]

Thats not how it works in Sweden. Stefan Löfven have been our Prime minister all along. Magdalena was just Prime minister-elect. By Swedish law we must have a government at all times. So cant be the same as in the US for example when they cant pass a budget and their government shuts down.

[@bodigames]

fk the left

[@rafag9153]

​@@bodigames No

[@adamjansson3499]

People aren't usually this accurate when describing foreign politics. Great video!

[@markusg3874]

I don't get why you say ex-communist party about the left. It isn't really relevant what they used to be and it's just draws the attention to the mostly negatively connotated word

[@Simon-ow6td]

Why is the left party called Ex-communist and the Sweden Democrats not called ex-Nazi?

[@DaDunge]

Cause there's nothing ex about SD.

[@PerkasaRahmadani]

@@DaDunge based

[@elliot04877]

@@DaDunge SD is an ex nazi party, The old Nazis form the 90s got kicked out long ago and formed their own part back in like 2003 called National party.

[@seb7271]

They were called the communist party for close to 70 years. In addition there are still a lot of people in the party who still consider themselves to be communist. In contrast, According to Expo, it is generally agreed that the Sweden Democrats has never been a Nazi party. although some of the SD's early members had previously been connected with Swedish fascist and white nationalist groups. All of which have left or been kicked from the party. So, calling the left party Ex-communist is correct since the party for most of its history was communists. While calling the Swedish Democrats ex-Nazis isnt since they were technically never a "nazi party". I guess you could call them a Ex-Racist party. Although that wouldn't make much sense since the modern day Sweden Democrats have barely any connections to the old Sweden Democrats.

[@WalterKhayyam]

It's never been a Nazi party though.

[@mopedkultur6349]

I’m sorry to learn that you have been misinformed. She was merely elected prime minister, but never assumed this role. This was to happen on Friday later that week in a meeting with king Carl Gustav. As this never happened, she never became prime minister. So no resignation and no seven hours of being prime minister. Consider changing your source for Swedish matters to someone better informed.

[@thomasbjarnelof2143]

From a legal point of view: Stefan Löven is still the prime minister. A new prime minister is not appointed until they have been to the king to "konselj", and that never happened.

[@markusb3712]

5:53 "Annie Loof". "Ö" is not an O! It's Annie Lööf!

[@DaDunge]

Seconded Ö is like the i in bird or the ea in heard.

[@mfotken69]

Very well done, TLDR, it was an acurate description of what's been going on in Swedish politics.

[@deusexaethera]

As an American, I never fail to be puzzled when people from countries with parliamentary democracies talk about parliament "forming a government". The concept doesn't make sense to me. I thought parliament _is_ the government -- at least the legislative branch of it.

[@Johannicus]

When I saw the news in the local media I just waited for this to pop up =)

[@michalmalak13]

Why insist on calling the left party ex-communist but not describe the Sweden-democrats as ex-nazis?

[@DaDunge]

Cause the SD are not EX nasiz they're just nazis plain and simple.

[@tobyblack9535]

I assume because the left party is the same political entity as the Swedish Communist Party just under a different name, whereas the Swedish democrats were formed in the 1980s as a new political group and significantly reformed during the 1990s.

[@michalmalak13]

@@DaDunge True

[@revinhatol]

Somebody please support Magdalena there!

[@kurumachikuroe442]

This is what happens when you let negative stability build up

[@jmolofsson]

It is, but negative parliamentarism is stable. Just compare with Belgium!

[@TheAllRounderMemes]

I lasted only 5 minutes, wait...

[@tosotoco2815]

Guess who’s back! Back again.... She is back! Tell a friend....

[@markstrue-nielsen275]

When i read it in the danish news, i thought i had read the articel wrong 7 hours earlier :p

[@mrelleownar]

As a Swede watching this channel, and now this video, I now know that it is fun to watch people get roasted until it’s your turn

[@reikmaner]

Sweden had it first female prime minister!!!

[@acediadekay3793]

past tense is correct

[@davidbengtsson4964]

Also we didn't, she wasn't sworn in

[@Theorimlig]

She was never actually confirmed, so technically no. She was elected but not officially made prime minister.

[@thesharpyion8030]

for 7 hours

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

Feels a lot like Canada's "first female prime minister" but somehow even way shorter.

[@mchajen511]

one tiny thing to clarify, the graphic at 7:18 seems to implicate that the coalition government consisted of the social democrats, the centre party, the left party, and the green party. However, the left party and the centre party only supported the government which until now consisted of the social democrats and the green party. Meaning that only the social democrats and the green party held executive positions.

[@TheGreenLegend]

There are a bunch of errors in this video, they are all relatively minor. This video does a good job of explaining the gist of the dilemma resulting in a PM elect resigning from her position in a matter of hours, but it inaccurately explains actions of several parties. I'd really advice against trying to form any opinions about any political party in Sweden with this video as source material, even though it can be valuable if you just want some surface insight on what just happened in Swedish politics.

[@olofiswatching]

Your pronunciation of Annie Lööf cracked me up a bit. But understandably: its a tricky one as many swedish surnames use archaic spellings. It's basically pronounced "Love"

[@littlesaints91]

Its not archaic spellings. Å Ä Ö is more modern than all other letters. And if you know something about French for example you know they have more "letters" (they aint counted as letters but in practicality are) with dots. Many nations have them. Many nations even have Ä and Ö etc. So stop being silly.

[@olofiswatching]

@@littlesaints91 what kind of weird trolling attempt is this?

[@littlesaints91]

@@olofiswatching you trolled by calling Å Å and Ö archaic. But you have 0 knowledge about linguistics.

[@olofiswatching]

@@littlesaints91 Her name means “leaf” and the modern spelling is “Löv” and also how it is pronounced. It’s the “f” that is archaic. Maybe you shouldn’t speak so confidently about things you don’t understand.

[@ratyjoona]

Meanwhile in Finland we are now having some kinda elections every year for few years at least, for most of the nation

[@jonathanlilja5739]

Because of the Swedish constitution not having accounted for a situation like this and not mentioning a position of "PM-elect" it has lead to an ongoing debate among political scientists regarding if Andersson ever was the PM or not. Since she was not confirmed in a meeting with the king and did not present a cabinet, and as a result the Transition government of Stefan Löfven was still in power, some say that she was never PM. Some say that we for a few hours had two PMs, while others say that would go against the constitution. As you can imagine, this goes on and on. Only a PM can form a government, but the PM definitially leads the government, etc etc.

[@peope1976]

The overlap of the vote of a new PM and the old one has happened all the time. Even if the PM would die there would be a PM. I find it very strange if political scientists in Sweden would argue about that. It clearly states when a switch is made and until that switch the old PM is in place. The only thing that is unclear to me is the elected future PM asking to be relieved from the position. The position of what I wonder. The law may also stay quiet on what happens if the elected PM withdraws. Maybe it says that there shall be a switch and going to the speaker might not have been proper. I don't know about that.

[@jonatanrullman]

There's discussion about this? I thought everyone was pretty clear she was not technically the PM. If she was, why is Löfven still acting PM of the caretaker government as of now (tuesday morning)? Shouldn't she have been if she really was PM?

[@Lunkanize]

@@jonatanrullman yeah, there never was an council to change governments, so I don’t see there being any debate within any noteworthy groups of people.

[@rikardtornblom6410]

The Swedish left party hasn't had communism on the agenda for over 30 years.. the need to constantly refer to them as "ex communist" isn't really there. It's a pretty much standard socialist party at this point, leaning alot more towards democratic socialism than anything else.

[@Cloud_Seeker]

Apart from that their leaders have said they are communists. You can paint a pig in whatever color you want, but nothing change that it is a pig. They are communists. They are not ex communists. They are communists. They are the new modern version of communist.

[@Garrickk100]

This guy calls the party on the right “far right” but the literally communist party isn’t “far left”.

[@enriquedp9356]

Remebre this channel is on the left. It is hard from a non-western european perspective to understand what is “right” here. The Sweden Democrats would be considered moderate or centre left because Islamism is hated here. Wokeist insults and slander don’t work here lol

[@rafag9153]

Party on the right is far right though. And the Left Party is an EX-communist party, it is said a few times in the video.

[@tkmjees]

What's the issue here? 7.5 hours is a normal working day.

[@XaurielZ]

Wow, I never imagined any country's "first female PM" achievement could be any more embarrassing for that country than Kim Campbell becoming PM of Canada only because Brian Mulroney resigned to avoid electoral defeat, then going on to be turfed in a matter of months

[@hinken3716]

Its pretty overblown to be fair. She will probably be PM soon and this will just be a slightly embarrassing memory for some.

[@TheJacklikesvideos]

U.S. first female president was two hours during a colonoscopy.

[@gabrieleporru4443]

Italy: at least we're the best at this game guys, no doubt👍🏻 Belgium and Sweden:🤣🤣🤣

[@Ggdivhjkjl]

Italians need a king.

[@gabrieleporru4443]

@@Ggdivhjkjl that's tantamount to an insult to someone who comes from Sardinia. We've been nothing but a colony, exploited for our wood despite never having railways that could be called as such, isolated from the rest of Italy, heavily invested into a war for the same nation (highest death rate in WW1 among italian regions); ironic since we gave the Kingdom of Sardinia its name. This may come by as abrupt, but I suggest you learn some history before making that judgement

[@gabrieleporru4443]

@@Ggdivhjkjl and, among all of these, Belgium and Sweden are in fact kingdoms..

[@jeffrygriffith3811]

I am an American living in Sweden for 36 years. Even though it is seldom the party I want in office, it is ALWAYS done properly and according to the law. As was all of this with Magdalena and her proper, self-chosen, resignation. This Swedish addition to your library of youtube publications was the second one I watched. CLICK -BATE WARNING

[@teemum.9023]

0:53 watch out labeling Communist and Socialist parties which are not by book definition

[@PetterssonRobin]

First female Swedish prime minister elected CHECK ✅ And now when that is done, let's move on and elect another old white dude again. As long as he is a feminist, all should be well.

[@DaDunge]

Veey unlikely that any white dude will be able to take the job. The right can't rule without the support of both the far right and the centre, which won't happen.

[@target844]

She will in all likelihood be reelected next week. There is only one possible old white dude option, if old is older than her, two more if they can be younger. There are five other younger female options, some are not white. That is if you look at the other leaders of parties in parliament.

[@covfefe1787]

@@DaDunge watch when all of the sudden according to your logic 50% of Sweden votes for the Sweden Democrats pushing them into a single party majority government brushing wokeisim and putting Swedish citizens first over migrants and so called environmentalism. Populism is the future of Europe.

[@Fenris77]

0:57 Ex-communist? LOL That was a good one... The Vänsterpartiet (The Left-Party) have never stopped being communists not really.

[@mardasman428]

She‘s prime minister again 😂

[@brunoignaciogi]

I'm looking for the Argentine comment that states “5 presidents in 1 week”, but since I haven't found it, I will make it. Sweden: 1 Prime Minister for 7 hours Argentina: 5 presidents in 1 week

[@cageybee7221]

thank god we don't have the ability for the opposition party to pass a budget here in the US, our politicians would abuse the shit out of that to make each other look bad relentlessly and ruin the country in the process.

[@E4439Qv5]

Nah, we just get filibusters, unnecessary debt ceiling crises, and partial government shutdowns. It's such a relief to have no petulance at all in our bicameral governing duopoly... (*grumble*)

[@cageybee7221]

@@E4439Qv5 oh definetly, shit like that is why i said that i'm glad we don't have the ability for the opposition to fuck up the budget even worse every year.

[@hurri7720]

This is how democracy should work. No country should ever be run by a government of just one party alone. Such systems are for countries like North Korea and China. Sadly also for some English speaking countries too. In Finland the first woman PM was caught with a silly worthless lie within a few months and was forced to go. That is how democracy should work. How many days would Boris have survived in a democracy. What is so funny with the English is that they deeply and truly are a poster child of democracy. About a year ago a woman working for the BBC had this to say on the television - " the British parliamentary system is the envy of the whole world". What is so both funny and disturbing is that she probably strongly believed it to be true.

[@P99s-s]

Honestly, it feels like this not a problem or a mess as much of the media and internet called it, but the system working as designed

[@svantezeidlitz4910]

Yeah, it’s really just a technicality

[@MsJoao101]

No bias! This is refreshing!

[@sfp2290]

I feel like it is appropriate, as a Dane, to congratulate my Swedish siblings on getting their first female "prime minister". You have now joined the club with the rest of the Nordic countries.

[@loukasmaki]

Yeah now we can move on and work on real issues

[@erikohlsson9360]

Well technically she never took office so we still haven’t (she was suppose to today had she not resigned).

[@icebox1954]

Having a woman as a prime minister isn't something that's inherently good. Our danish prime minister isn't worth listening to just because she's a woman. It doesn't matter if there would never be a male or female prime minister.

[@ef888]

@@icebox1954 Well regardless of gender the Danish PM is quite good isn't she?

[@icebox1954]

@@ef888 For the most part yeah. She's had some major fuckups though.

[@HiXylophone]

One error is that in June, the Leftist party did not "change their mind" over the new rent system. They had clearly from the beginning stated that they would vote against S if they would go through with the reform.

[@whathappened2230]

Could this be why some people in this world are like f it,one party rule maybe ok...? Just to be clear,I am not for one party rule. Shouldn't it be simpler to have good government though?

[@johanponken]

Good job* on pronouncing Löfven, but 5:54 this time you forgot that also Annie has dots above the 'o':s Also, as the double ö and the f are just embellishments, her name is Löv (leaf), and we pronounce it as such. (A bit like a funny pronunciation of 'love'.) (* though you could skip the diphtong: Löve:n, not Lövein.)

[@Unknownmonkey13]

I don't pronounce Lööf as Löv, I pronounce it as Lööf because that's what her name is

[@titanuranus3095]

Actually Swedes say it with the diphtong

[@amandapanda7416]

7:35 President elect lol

[@JormungandrEtrSigSjalfr]

I'm gonna stop calling the leader of the Centre party Annie Lööf and proceed to call her "Anni Loouf" from now on, that was brilliant! 🤣

[@FootofPork]

"Crisis". Nice clickbait. This is just our political system working itself out in a rare situation with parties realigning and rebranding themselves.

[@sup3rAVATARtlafAN]

Can easily say it was a fun day if you're into politics, but boy it's going to be talked about non stop in the media for a while..

[@l0rdzie117]

Around 420 million years ago the first animal is estimated to have stepped on land. Now imagine the journey that lead to this fucking debate wether the swedish political system is good or bad.

[@him_That_is_me]

Absolutely hilarious what a bloody circus this has developed into. Mostly because of the stupid idea of some parties to hold a stance of absolutely no compromise with the Sweden Democrats. I also wonder what the greens are actually thinking. This has not won them any favor amongst people. This kind of obstinate political is, from what opinions I’ve heard, highly undignified.

[@scorpioninpink]

The Moderates doesn't have that stance anymore. Also, no one should be compromising with them.

[@kobban63]

@@scorpioninpink why

[@Ellipsis115]

I mean, not compromising with a far right party doesn't sound so bad in my opinion.

[@woom_y]

This crisis had nothing to do with the Sweden Democrats. This whole issue was because C wants to vote through a prime minister but also vote through the oppositions budget. Stop your crocodile tears, you SD apologists.

[@tobilandsfried8083]

The Weimar Republic wants your number about working together with far right groups. Worked out well for them to work with Hitler. No democracy can allow that ever again.

[@username12120]

"Ex-Communist Left Party" uh huh, and if you believe that I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

[@DukePaprikar]

"Far-right Democrats" - how strange that sounds.

[@amhahn]

Maybe the CEO of IKEA should be elected President. I'm sure they would know how to assemble a cabinet...

[@tripledigit4835]

Broke: This is what happens when Women are put in charge Woke: This is what happens when Swedes are put in charge

[@hansjiang373]

6:58 Thats wrong. Only the social democrats and green party were to be in the coalition government. The left party and center party give support by abstaining or voting in favour

[@amirulfarhan919]

Just go bribe some opposition mps

[@reshuram4353]

Nope.

[@PMMagro]

The opposition works on winning Sep 2022 elections...

[@DaDunge]

@@PMMagro And they might, but it will be an equally slim majority. At the first crisis everything will collapse and since SD will be part of it there will be a crisis. SD always throws a hissy fit whenever they don't get what they want. Spoiled children, they have no place in government.

[@MaoThe1st]

Wrong peninsula (but the Balkans send their regards).

[@Shaderox]

Well, been gone from the country for years and it seems it's just as messy as when I left it. Seems nobody cares with ideas are the good or bad ones, just the affiliation of the one that presents them.

[@k.j.hulander2204]

A few errors: the Left and Centre parties weren’t part of the coalition government, they supported the Labour-Green policies in parliament but didn’t sit in the government. Moreover, the opposition budget is drawn on top of the government’s budget, ie the government’s budget is the blueprint and then the opposition makes changes reflecting issue priorities. On the whole, only a relatively small portion of the government’s original budget was amended in the shadow budget and so for Andersson, governing on the shadow budget doesn’t present a huge political problem, especially with the Greens out of government as the most controversial change in the shadow budget is lowering of petrol and diesel taxes. Andersson may represent the Labour/SocDem party but she’s widely regarded to be a technocrat rather than an ideologue who leans to the right on economic matters. In my opinion, this will be a good outcome in the end: a clear majority of the Swedish electorate is on the right side of the political spectrum but the majority of voters also lack confidence for the Sweden Democrats. Now, moderate Andersson representing the de facto establishment party will govern on a budget that represents the issue priorities of the electorate. No one wins but no one loses either, except the Green Party who no longer can hold the country hostage with their insane beliefs. It’s a solution that perfectly reflects the Swedish “lagom” ethos.

[@jmolofsson]

Hear!, hear!

[@dollarcostbackpacker1226]

Dude said far right Sweden democrats... This place sounds like it has been upside down and backwards for awhile.

[@Halesnaxlors]

I respect the greens for not wanting to govern with a right wing budget. I think they realise they have been pragmatic to the point of becoming door mats for the last two mandates. They looked at what reaction V got for being more headstrong, and went with it.

[@jonte694]

They wanted out of the goverment to gain voters, this was the perfect reson to exit.

[@Theorimlig]

@Alex Pokrandt The Left are not in government. Only the Social Democrats and the Greens were supposed to form a government, like the previous one, with support from the Centre and Left parties. The Centre party would refuse to be in a coalition with the Left or accept a government that the Left Party was part of.

[@vaszi101]

i don’t blame her whatsoever from resigning that’s a terrible scenario. i’m from turkey and even we’re not that complicated

[@grimnir8872]

Very little of this matters, like the UK, Sweden has a massive network of unelected officials and layers of bureaucracy designed to gobble as much money as they can while being as unproductive as they can, often with a very global Anti-nativist agenda.