TM Krishna @Algebra

Celebrated classical musician T M Krishna takes on the holy cows of art, music and politics - and he doesn't pull his punches! with Shoma Chaudhury at Algebra, The Arts & Ideas Club, Gurgram on 22 Oct 2017
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[@brightstar6386]

Wow... I am very happy to see people of my place are thinking the more rational way... I dont know why people pour hatred on him... He is being interviewed and he is sharing his views and he is a singer and he would have done research to spoke it so open... Who are we to judge others thoughts... I find his thoughts very fascinating and I am feeling bad that i have wasted my 24 years of not listening to him... Thanks a lot TM Krishna sir.... :)

[@rainorshine7816]

“I would have to judge your ability to feel, but I’m not going to do that” ~ TM Krishna 😂😂😂 very brilliant man

[@lovelyedits460]

For me too carnatic music is spiritual and cannot be separated from rama, krisna Or the gods mentioned in particular keerttan, Don't forget that listening this, uduppi krishna gave darsan to Kanaka dasathrough back door of the garbhagraha

[@jayakrishnanrj2088]

Its more about being creative than blindly following what had been there. Way to go TM. Love the way You are. Changes are essential for art to grow. Let it evolve being close to peoples heart rather than sabhas.

[@srinivasansrirangam637]

I love your music dear Krishna....

[@tejaniruddha]

Very bad job by ALGEBRA team on framing and choosing the content to talk about with a prodigy of sorts and recluse vocal artist like TM. Or should i say that 'Shoma' is very poor to conduct the conversations about Art. On the other hand i appreciate the patience of Artist TM Krisha, who was continuously being pushed to sing in absence of prerequisites of TM's art (The Canvas : Tanpura and rhythm). The song about the drying up land and absence of rains was very touching. When conversation is about an artform which is sonic and momentary, I would recommend format as 1.Art Demonstration followed by 2. Info graphic and then 3. Snippets of deep issues discussed for interviewing artists you please appoint appropriate artist / curator as anchor who is well versed in arts and handling artists.

[@sangameswariyer7712]

Yesteryear carnatic musicians were not CBSE Educated and hence did not do any discussion. Rebels are always welcome and especially in TN it is a way to be heard.

[@jamesbaben]

The whole idea of bhajan is pondering the expression bakthi in and out. But I don't know how come he feel inside dropping the bakthi factor..Of course we are getting it from this master..

[@mgchandrakanth]

Vid TMK, what ever are your views, I wonder your capabilities as an excellent speaker, excellent musician with bhava paravasha. The vilamba kala keertanas of yours are par excellence. For me, classical music or music is always devotional, as I have not time to think of any other thing in life, as the life is so short. But your concern regarding certain art forms receding is true and your efforts to bring them back are laudable. You are right in saying, it is the listerner's autonomy in interpreting the music listened to. And this depends upon the listener's capability or samskara in deciphering and interpreting the music heard. God bless you all the time.

[@pulireemi]

Great human being

[@vijisriniva]

TM Krishna confuses various things . The openness of Hindu tradition has absorbed many good things from various cultures and keeping it alive. Let him go to other countries and preach how the ruling class kept other people, women down. He won't be allowed to talk about issues in the society ( then he will appreciate his freedom of expression). Don't abuse the art because many of the people who practice it have some bad traits

[@santhanamaravamudhan7643]

Vijay Srinivasan Let him confuse if we are steady he will be confused

[@ANKITPANDEY-vm8kx]

Vijay Srinivasan Clearly you don't realize that one is not competing with Tragedy here. You have to be really mediocre to compare yourself with something mediocre and probably strife for mediocrity... Clearly nobody taught you that.

[@muraliangappa9507]

He does speak about it abroad as well

[@rameshvk1898]

TM Krishna Sir is truly a World Citizen. Vasudaiva Kutumbakam. Take care sir.

[@sainudheenthanippatta2239]

A great musician

[@rainorshine7816]

Why is interviewer trying to force him to sing unprepared on the spot

[@sujayanarula3913]

It's only today i am exposed to your music and thoughts on music Mr. Krishna , I haven't listened to you enough but am surprised that your thoughts somehow resonates with mine, not so evolved yet the experience of trying and understanding the music and musicians I strongly feel the magical connection of the sound ( sonic) first then its the sahitya that binds those sounds to create expressions and emotions

[@sudarshan71]

This interviewer Shoma Chaudhury is exactly what an interviewer shouldn't be. Her research is poor, her presentation is unduly ostentatious and ultimately she is trying to appear intellectual but falls flat on her face

[@rainorshine7816]

💯

[@sharadaarkalgud5693]

It's is in a bad taste commenting derogatorily on such a legendary musician hurting thousands of his music lovers.

[@Iamlatha]

He is not the first one to sing on Allah. MS has sung long back. She has sung Mirza Galib, songs in 10 Indian languages & an English song in her UN concert. So there is nothing new about this. Shoma's questions were really fab. I should praise her for it, esp., 1. Didn't Carnatic music evolve from Bhakthi tradition just like Sufi music ? Yes, it did. 2. If one can sing about Allah, why not Rama & Krishna ? Kudos Shoma. Enjoyed.

[@Notamonk_]

I really enjoy his music, but the way he wanted to bring changes in Carnatic music disappointed me.

[@josephjose5393]

Those of you who do not agree with the speaker.... kindly explain the errors

[@Whereeverur]

Now that raises some questions abt brahmins. Weren't carnatic music completely the propriety of Devadasis alone and brahmins got involved only because some brahmins got into illicit relationship with them.As far as I know the brahmins were allowed to sing only before god and brahmins women were barred from singing since they came in comparison with Devadasis if they sing. So TM and others, singing on all topics using carnatic music simply means they are barging into the exclusive freedom given only to devadasis?

[@gangadaranshepherd2724]

The discourse with Thiru. T.M. Krishna is anything but beyond description. He is a revolutionary genius. I feel very deeply about his intent to love for Carnatic music and liberate the riches of it to all communities and to all people who love music. I have to congratulate the Algebra channel for bringing this out and available for all of us. I hope and pray for his success in all his efforts. He seems to bring a discussion amongst us whether Music came first or Bhakt came first!. In other words, whether Music is a result of Bhakti or the Bhakti of a person that gave rise to exquisite Music?

[@lovelyedits460]

Why he is not talking about the particular feel of keerttana, eg:when u sing broa barama, how one can feel happy

[@rekhasurya3718]

BRILLIANT !

[@loveanimals-0197]

I think TM Krishna is confusing the nautch movement with Devadasis. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that Devadasis were nautch girls. If the interviewer knew anything related to this, instead of some prepared questions, maybe this would have been better.

[@t.n.mahadevan3436]

Whether it's passion or devotion to carnations music by Krishna is very much on cross roads to me.

[@shameemakhtar1375]

Language is not just sound, but also images..

[@chandrashekharhs9738]

To say that karnataka sangeetha is steeped in brahminism is an insult to vaggeyakaras like Saint Purandaradasa and Saint Kanakadasa who were neither Brahmins nor brahminical. The core of karnataka sangeetha is bhakti which is open to all irrespective of caste. Karnataka sangeetha is being taught in most of the southern universities and the courses are open to all. No caste considerations. If some students do not opt for classical music, it is their choice. Bringing caste narrative in this is mischievous and motivated.

[@guroonath]

Purandaradasa was a Brahmin. But I agree with what you have said. Bringing caste in the art is unnecessary.

[@chandrashekharhs9738]

​@@guroonathNo. He belonged to business community and he was indeed a businessman before becoming a saint.

[@guroonath]

@@chandrashekharhs9738 I too had believed Sri Purandara Dasaru was a Vysya... but Wikipedia says he was a Brahmin. Nevertheless, he is beyond all this casteist divide. A pioneer in Carnatic music.

[@svidyarani6302]

Too high headed and eccentric!

[@RamaswamyIyerGanesh]

Good talk, well expressed but not worthy of taking his views for sake of Carnatic or classical music. For TM these are notes and swaras and not Script and literature

[@RamaswamyIyerGanesh]

HELLO TM SIR YOU NEED KRSNA NEE BHEGANE TO Bring UR FOLLOWING EXPRESSION

[@guroonath]

He is a totally confused artist. He is not walking the talk. He still checks his "shruthi- sa pa sa' the traditional way. I haven't seen him in a concert walking around the stage wearing a jeans and sing a Carnatic number. He still sits in a dhoti to perform. If the 'sahitya' is just a sound, why hasn't he composed a kriti in English? He should adapt a school and teach carnatic music to the non brahmins. And start a new culture and practice that's completely different from the present tradition. TMK is a genius... he could inspire the western pop stars to shed their crazy ways and influence them to sit in one place while performing. And that I will call a disruptive act.

[@vav9999]

Sangeetha gnanamu bhakti vinaaa

[@prashantrao0]

Very Interesting. Superb session :)

[@guroonath]

He says, a composition can be on anything.. a bottle, a building, a place... and sings a song on allah. 😂

[@VikramHariDasa]

Every art form has a unique identity and flavor to it. Incidentally, Carnatic art form predominantly is built around the divine, more specifically contextualized to Vendantic traditions of South India. Of course as TM Krishna rightly points out there are compositions(eg.Javalis) that delve on a relationship between two lovers, very material in nature. However the DNA of carnatic music's is around Vendantic Hindu traditions and the music itself traces to the Vedas in origin. A fact that TM Krishna conveniently chooses to ignore. TM Krishna tries to force fit his leftist ideology on to this and fails miserably. Caste barriers are non-existent in this art form. KJ Yesudas, Rajaratinam Pillia, Dwaram Naidu, Sheikh Chinna Maoulana, Jon Higgins and a composer like Kanakadasa were NOT from the so-called Brahminical backgrounds and yet they flourished. Thus his caste spin falls flat on its face. The beauty of art lies in preserving its uniqueness that needs to be valued, respected and enjoyed . I wish TM Krishna good luck in trying to eat idlies with kheer, rotis with sambar and biryanis with gulab jamoons & will wait to see how, to borrow is own words, "these interesting intersections, conversations shape up". "Lets see what happens "

[@Iamlatha]

hahahahaha. Well said. You left out my Guru Sri Neyyattinkara Vasudevan, a great classical exponent who was given a royal burial by all the greats when he passed away. Srivalsan J Menon carries on his legacy. Another famous dalit singer who was applauded & appreciated was Sri Madurai SOmu.

[@anulakshman2025]

Why the sangeeta pitamaha purandara dasa was not a brahmin

[@Mk-yt5yp]

TMK stop painting Carnatic music with brahminical colour.Don't we have yesudas who was trained by a brahmin and nurtured him to become leading Carnatic musician.Every body respect and accept him.Do not pretend to be a genius just because you got a small award Why are u appointing yourself as an ambassador of Carnatic music.There are millions of brilliant minds for that.

[@geetha1959]

Let him go to China and talk. Let us see

[@ANKITPANDEY-vm8kx]

Geetha Nagarajan You do realize that one should not compete with tragedy in life.. Like ever...we should always strife for a better world.. Clearly nobody taught you that!!!

[@divyasatyadeep]

He seems to be lacking a global perspective and while talented in his artform, seems confused. The interviewer could have prepared better questions. Last question was a good one. Coca Cola, really TM, you will sing in carnatic style on a polluting diabetes causing poison? The chap has lost his marbles if he thinks Coca Cola can contribute in any way to any kind of equality.

[@RamaswamyIyerGanesh]

TM SUNG ABOUT ALLAHA , BUT IS HE COULD NOT BRING IN BHAKTHI. IF BEHAG KRISHNA IS BEST WORD.

[@harihara1151]

It is your arrogance to say that Karnataka sangit is brahminic as jif that is impurity, and religiosity. Is religiosity wrong madam is brahma chintana wrong madam stop your stylish ignorance you accept some new definition for art from this one genius for him he has said music is sound only no emotions, nofeelings it is prattle. He misused his gift of structuring sound but is totally onable to bring in feeling in it. Stop this misplaced worship. How do you say it is brahminical and so bad do u know what is Brahman stop this arrogance steeped in ignorance

[@sphathak]

Totally un-intellectual and distasteful rant by a person whose opinion about himself is a know-all. Shame! Shame! Played neatly into the hands of external divisive forces like Magsaysay, whose unstated mission is to fan discord in perfectly fine settings.

[@ANKITPANDEY-vm8kx]

Shashank Phathak Man.. You are either delusional.. Or just plain stupid.

[@josephjose5393]

Tell us where the errors lie..... criticize with solutions

[@vav9999]

Mada poochi TMK u dont know the meaning of kannada n telugu words in all keerthanas.hence you are trying to bank on producing sounds.and calling it as ur style..it is covering ur lack of knowledge of meaning of words.i know one joker simillar to u who sings in december season in madras.that joker was shamelessly telling he doesn't know single telugu word.you r no different

[@chandrasekhar-B]

Absolutely. He says Kshetrayya's songs are erotic. I don't know which pervert explained to him that his compositions are erotic. I appreciate his effort to make the classical singing non-religious . Brahmin hegemony on classical music is well known. But it is the same brahmins who have helped many underprivileged people to learn this wonderful art. Yesudas is a classical example of such an act. But this guy, in his bid to question few fundamentalists, he is going off the mark. Hope wisdom dawns on him.

[@rainorshine7816]

Why does the interviewer keep saying he is disruptive 😂😂😂 Clearly TM is challenging human made constructs Which makes him even more brilliant than he already is This interviewer is rude and does not have a clue about anything TM Krishna is brilliant in his art style and form and if he can challenge conventional ideologies along the way,,, well that’s a bonus…. TM Krishna’s thinking is New and people like their old ways of thinking…. Just recycled garbage He is fresh and bringing something new to the art community and world and it is absolutely amazingly Divine ❤❤❤❤ Bravo 👏 from Canada 🇨🇦