TMC Hand Painted JIA | Remembrance Day Special | Unboxing & Review

[@1471SirFrederickBanbury]

That paint looks fabulous! This is why layering multiple semi-transparent coats works best. Even though it’s through a digital camera, rgb screens and KZbin compression, it still looks much better than a single opaque coat! Thanks Sam!

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah that's very true actually - looks much more authentic this way! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@lindaoffenbach]

Wonderful Special Sam. In Germany a similar day on the 2nd Sunday of Nov. commemorates all fallen in armed conflicts (Volkstrauertag). In Belgium where we live now 11 Nov. is a national day as well (Armistice Day). The painted graffiti looks very well good done. The weathering itself is passable for novices in weathering of models we thought. For proficient modellers, it's appears to be the typical quality from services doing such; that is a tad primitive, not very realistic. Prototypical weathering looks consistently blended with very subtle darker oily and rusty dabs and streaks by rain throughout rolling stock instead of showing highly contrasted transitions all over. All depends on personal preferences as well of course and level of experience. However, it is a brilliant way of commemorating in the hobby. Cheerio.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much for the info Linda, and duly noted on the weathering! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@glennwoods2462]

We will remember them..... Nice sentiment why you bought the wagon.. And for supporting creative artists... Cheers...✅👍🇳🇿

[@elsagillespie5210]

I love the paint job on the hopper, i'd like to see it w/steam loco to see what it'll look like - even it's it's just in the background/static display. 🌷🌷Lest we Forget🌷🌷

[@adamwilliams192]

I saw these at Warley last year (and yourself!), did think they looked impressive. A subject close to our heart in this house as well.

[@SamsTrains]

Glad to hear that Adam - great idea for Remembrance I think, Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@thunder-foxx3463]

how surreal! I was looking at that same product yesterday! now that I think about it, I'd love to see you cover different model weathering companies by sending out locomotives to them and reviewing the results, as I don't honestly think there's anyone else who's done so and it could be a useful review material. keep up the excellent videos sam!

[@SamsTrains]

You're right actually that would make an awesome video idea- thanks for the suggestion! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@user-eb8ld6kn8t]

Hi Sam. At 11:38 you can see the running issue - one wheel set doesn't touch the rails!

[@timchalk6810]

I vaguely remember that richard of everard junction had a similar issue with this type of wagon and ended up relaying the entrances to his fiddle yard !

[@NWRJ_WStudios]

I think TMC did a really wonderful job on the paint work there Sam. Cheers Jasper & Willow

[@SamsTrains]

I think they did too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@NWRJ_WStudios]

It's really a very unique and interesting wagon Sam. Cheers Jasper & Willow

[@jackstrains4468]

That weathering is incredible! And the paint is amazing - shame about the derailments, and the price is mental. Great video sam!

[@SamsTrains]

I agree - they did a fantastic job - as a one-off static display piece it's awesome... otherwise, not something you'll want much of! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@ajohnpeters9801]

Nicely done, side note, Poppies used the same way here in the states.

[@timbervalleyproductions]

Fantastic video Sam, this is a lovely wagon, just a shame about the running! Also, my LNER WelTrol M CAD is complete and I've started on a new one, the class 73!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks my friend! Ahh fantastic - I'd love to see it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@MrBnsftrain]

I've seen some model train companies in America offer special hand-weathered versions of their locomotives and rolling stock with hand-painted graffiti, so a model like this isn't unheard of. I'm more familiar with weathering specialists themselves selling new hand-weathered items than a model shop. I'd like to see you attempt a weathering job on one of the freight cars you already have, like those AliExpress wagons.

[@OragamiTobichi-bi6lh]

The paint looks soooo cool. I never knew that rolling stock was available. All hale britian. Get ur tea and crumpets it's time for a train that looks cool and amazing. Ur the best my friend. Keep being awesome. Hope to see some new trains soon

[@Cape_Cod_Steve]

Thank you for remembering our Veterans .

[@Studio23Media]

I think the weathering is definitely worth the money!! I've done a decent bit of modeling myself, and that's a tremendous amount of work!

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I think so - as a one off it makes for something very special! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@roberthuron9160]

Sam,in the US,we have Memorial Day,and the VFW distributes Poppies in the honoring the dead! Thank you,and makes even better that you showed it on Veterans Day,over here!! Thank you 😇 😊!

[@SamsTrains]

Great stuff, thanks very much for sharing! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@lapiswake6583]

I'm now considering one or two for my speedlink train, as I didn't know they ran in speedlink services. My local shop up north have several still in stock, and I'm not afraid to attack the underside to make them run better.

[@kanehood3478]

In not scared of tinkering with models to make then run smoother or fixing them when broken, having said that I wouldn’t do it to a brand new and rather expensive model, after all you wouldn’t buy a new Ferrari and have to repair it yourself before it would work

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah absolutely - I'm pretty sure the issues could be fixed with a bit of fettling - certainly nothing wrong with doing that! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@gregmacdonald927]

Excellent to see you showing your respect for our war dead in this simple way. Nice touch of class.

[@paolomargini7904]

Apart the artwork, 1st class details and wonderful weatheting. For the bogies, if they had molded shorter by just 2 mm the nearby caissons, it might have passed the 2nd radius to become an A, to be sold also weathered but with no handwork at a quite lower price.

[@garylong7599]

I have several of these wagons and they are happy on second radius curves

[@stephenmarshall9574]

Absolutely beautiful looking wagon. Well done TMC. The problem with detailing can be overcome by removing a small amount of plastic at the rear corners of the bogies. It’s not noticeable when running. Keep up the good work Sam. I love your reviews as you call a spade a spade. So many reviews seem to tell us that everything in the word of model railways is rosey when it’s not.

[@stephenmarshall9574]

I meant to say derailing but my spell checker caught me out.

[@kiwitrainguy]

Don't worry, I read the "detailing" as "derailing".😂@@stephenmarshall9574

[@falconeye577]

just out of the box, WOW, that is great

[@Braystrains]

Great video Sam! I love this wagon and the art work on it! Happy reminderence day/Veterans Day for those in the USA

[@DavidScholz-bu1ix]

NICELY WELL DONE AS ALWAYS!!!

[@chompette_]

7:40 you can see the innermost wheelset on the left bogie is not sitting on the track correctly, not sure if that was an indicator to the derailing early?

[@YourLocalRailfan]

That’s amazing man!

[@devontrainspotting]

In Devon, they run JIA's with lots more graffiti than that! Looks stunning and great video as always sam!

[@lukejackson8741]

I’m glad you’ve done one of these, wanted to see 1 for awhile they look great on the website, shame about the performance, for that price even with nice artwork with no performance it’s very very expensive for a siding piece, surprised how generous you’ve been with the value, maybe the subject has softened this, but £100 for half a models paint job is abit stiff

[@Simon-Davis]

Shame about the running, but the paint job really does make up for it. Absolutely superb! The radius fix is like you say, a bit of a shave off either the bogie end or the inside of the hopper, but not all that difficult if required. Its a bit of an oxymoron given the real things were well known for being able to traverse tight curves! Kernow also did these wagons predecessors, the PBA 'Clay Tigers', and those are an equally impressive huge bogie hopper. Added bonus with the Clay Tigers is that the ones I have will negotiate a tighter curve, they breeze through 2nd radius and will manage first radius...ish. They'll grumble through 1st but if there are two of them they buffer lock. As I model the Midlands in the 1980s they're an essential Speedlink wagon for the Potteries traffic. Definitely one worth reviewing and to compare with this JIA.

[@gamingwithlukeJToH]

the nice thing about graffiti is the fact that you don't need to worry about getting the paint perfect, it will just look more realistic if it isn't!

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah absolutely - that's what makes it so perfect!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@williamsquires3070]

It’s Veteran’s Day over here in the U.S. There are a number of locomotives painted in liveries that honor first responders (police/fire/ambulance) and the armed forces. We should never forget those who served with honor to defend our counties against forces that stand for tyranny and despotism, as well as those who continue to serve.

[@MattTrains2001]

I picked up a new EFE Class 58 for a very good price at the great electric train show this year, it comes with pipes and details fitted to the bufferbeam that you would need to snap off in order to fit and use a coupling so for now, its not actually capable of pulling anything without damaging itself straight out of the box. There was also no indication on which way round to fit the DCC decoder to it either. Its a good model in terms of finish, detail and performance however I'm glad I didnt pay full price for it.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks for sharing - yeah that's very typical of Heljan, though they seem to be getting a bit better with doing that these days! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@OliverT-qt1gn]

Sam, here in Canada most everyone starts wearing a poppy at least a week before Nov. 11.

[@BuggleskellyStation]

Are you coming to Warley this year Sam? If you are we'd love to see you at the Buggleskelly Station stand (D11A) :)

[@michaelcrane3327]

Hi Sam, great video as always and a great choice from TMC's selection too. I have a couple of them, and use 2nd radius set track points and have to say I've never had an issue.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh very interesting - are those the same models as these, and are they weathered?? Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@lucysblade]

I just bought three of these EFE China Clay wagons and mine run absolutely perfectly on my R2 test track and no point problems on larger circuits. Maybe it’s a batch issue?

[@EsotericArctos]

Remberence day is the same here in Australia, with the poppies as well. Likely most commonwealth countries would know about it, but maybe countries outside the commonwealth, like the USA, would not know. This is an amazing looking model. Do some of the proceeds go toward veteran support organisations? Some models are not designed to run on 2nd and smaller radius curves, but it would be nice to have that mentioned if that was the case. It would make an impressive static display in a disused siding. With that said, a lot of wagons/tankers used in freight would be that weathered in real life and running daily. You get use to running prestine models on a model railway, but in real life they would be that weathered and rusted with dirt and the whole thing.

[@Alpha-oo8]

Say Sam, when it comes to your end of year videos, any chance of doing a best and worst of rolling stock? Maybe as a combined video, or an addition to the regular locomotive videos?

[@PORT_OF_PAR_2572]

Great video Sam I like the livery . I live near the depot these are based at and see them often I would like one of these but have just spent all my money on the port of pars

[@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204]

good vid we will remember them thanks lee

[@SueBobChicVid]

I think there is a market for static "running stock". Consider it a detailed, prebuilt, and painted trackside structure and it makes some sense.

[@jamesdunloptrains]

Awesome video today Sam really beautiful modle today

[@richardnelson-ux1zz]

I like this tank car what os the best radious curves yo run for this tank car

[@davebell4917]

My only question is whether any of the high price ended going to charity. The Royal British Legion of course. Your suggested use as a static display in a siding would be fine, but if the charity doesn't get a share it feels like a con game.

[@davidstrains4910]

Interesting looking item here Sam, haven’t really got anything relating to poppies or the armed forces in my collection, thinking of getting some of these hoppers at some point but they won’t be custom weathered.

[@FeatherWing162]

I wish we had more products like this. If this wasn’t so expensive, I would totally own this

[@SamsTrains]

That's true - if this was done as a factory run so the paint was machine printed, they could be much more affordable! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@zacsteamlocomotive1800]

the nest salvage or scrap engine is the one i was warning you about

[@trainman86trainstramsandmore]

what is the nest salvage or scrap engine

[@zacsteamlocomotive1800]

@@trainman86trainstramsandmore is from ohio & it,s a tank engine

[@trainman86trainstramsandmore]

@@zacsteamlocomotive1800 oh right, that thing. So hy are you warning him about it?

[@zacsteamlocomotive1800]

yes@@trainman86trainstramsandmore

[@jameshardy4354]

It's a lifelike 0 4 0 American steam locomotive

[@TenCJones]

Thanks Sam! Can't get over the detailing and weathering on that model how do they do it so well? Have a good Remembrance Day and all the best from Canada.

[@SamsTrains]

I agree with you - it's definitely one of the best I've seen - you too my friend! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@David_Mattox]

Amazing craftsmanship! Do you know if TMC does custom liveries for engines and rolling stock?

[@timbervalleyproductions]

Not liveries, but it does renumbering and weathering. For resprays check out ElectraRail, Rainbow Railways or Ben's Resprays

[@David_Mattox]

@@timbervalleyproductions Would any of them do steam by any chance? Pregrouping liveries are cool, and I can’t deny that BR Express Blue looks awesome!

[@timbervalleyproductions]

@@David_Mattox Not sure I'm afraid - best to contact them.

[@williamsquires3070]

(@8:19) The brake rigging on the end of the covered hopper wagon looks suspiciously like one on the N. American rail system, as that’s definitely a brake cylinder (and linkages) I see there. My understanding is that British wagons/vans use a vacuum, whereas the N. American rail system uses pressurized air. It looks like someone used the tooling for an American or Canadian cylindrical hopper, then modified it with different end caps and British-style bogies (and screw-link couplings.) can someone over there in the U.K. confirm or deny this? Do these (prototype) wagons really have this brake rigging?

[@philkeller4170]

While many UK railway companies did indeed use the vacuum brake* and it tended to be the standard up until the 1960s, Pretty much every freight wagon event coach and every loco built since the 1970s uses the air brake system. *Getting a steam loco to create a vacuum using a basic ejector with no moving parts is easy - by contrast getting a steam loco to create air pressure requires a special air pump full of moving parts and thus not only more expensive to make but also with grater potential to go wrong. With diesels on the other hand creating a vacuum requires what amounts to an air pump running in reverse so their is no saving in equipment terms and air generally gives a higher brake force than vacuum.

[@rottenroads1982]

Still waiting on the BR class 28 and OO9 scale stuff.

[@ModelRailwaysUnlimited]

Nice tribute Sam

[@triggerwarning9232]

hey sam, sorry this seems like a random time to ask but will there be a christmas special at all this year? After all, christmas is on its way 🎅

[@LetsGo_41]

I had that. I just cut those little corner things off on the boggie.

[@Agamemnon2]

There are models where not running on R2 / 18" curves is to be expected, like those massively long US gondolas you tested earlier, but something like this with two-axle bogies should be able to do so. I don't think it would have taken much trimming of the undercarriage detail to give the few additional degrees of swivel required. Perhaps they felt the visual impression of the wagon would have been compromised by that, I can't fathom why they wouldn't have done it otherwise.

[@trainman86trainstramsandmore]

It's nice they did a rememberance wagon, it's not something tacky and stupid like all that coca cola mass produced branded stuff hornby produce, it's a proper special wagon made well which has a purpose. My Uncle Alfred also died in World war 2 so it is a good way to remember him and all the soldiers that died too.

[@sapphirejunction8993]

FYI the JIA's are still in operation today hauled by DB and pretty much look like your example...a very underrated wagon to be honest. The derailing is a feature of this model unfortunately, very well documented where the bogies have restricted movement and is a design fault of the model.

[@briandesens144]

Awesome video Sam's trains

[@Locomattive8572]

I should imagine the original tooling / design was by Dapol with Kernow owning the design. I say Dapol as they are available in N Gauge too. Kernow owning the rights too it, I guess they chose Bachmann / EFE to distribute. This isn’t unusual either, Dapol and Bachmann have made stock together before too.

[@British_Revolution]

Wow a rememberance wagon…. Nice

[@tiddles4x4]

Hi Sam. Do you know if any of the money from the sales of this wagon go to a charity? Most of the remembrance trains from other companies to send a percentage of the sales price to a veterans charity.

[@SamsTrains]

As far as I know that’s not the case - certainly nothing was mentioned at the point of sale!

[@tiddles4x4]

@@SamsTrains Thanks Sam. Well that is just another reason not to buy it. Making a profit out of our remembrance tradition.

[@SwordlordRoy]

In Flanders Fields the Poppies grow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place. While in the Sky The larks still bravely singing, fly Unheard, amid the guns below. We are the dead, Short days ago We lived, felt dawns, saw sunsets glow; Loved and were loved - but now we lie In Flanders Field Take up our quarrel with the foe! To you from falling hands we throw The torch, Be yours to bear it high! If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep tho’ poppies blow In Flanders Field. -In Flanders Field, by Lt. Col. John D. McCrae In Flanders Field the cannon boom And fitful flashes light the gloom; While up above, like Eagles, fly The fierce destroyers of the sky; With stains the earth wherein you lie Is redder than the poppy bloom In Flanders Field. Sleep on ye brave! The shrieking shell, The quaking trench, the startling yell, The fury of the battle hell Shall wake you not; for all is well. Sleep peacefully, for all is well. Your flaming torch aloft we bear, With burning heart an oath we swear To keep the faith to fight it through To crush the foe, or sleep with you In Flanders Field -The Answer, by Lt. J. A. Armstrong of Wisconsin Happy Armistice/Remembrance/Memorial Day.

[@aaronbrown6637]

The JIA’s are still very much in service!

[@JustinFrazier_360]

That's so cool sam

[@andy2950]

I'd buy this for displaying only, if it was a bit cheaper.

[@bryantan863]

This wagon which The Model Centre has painted has a very nice piece of artwork which is to honor the soldiers who sacrificed their lives to serve the war looks pretty good and I do like it. Unfortunately, the wagon cannot handle 2nd radius curves which makes it quite useless to run it behind any locomotive but the artwork on the wagon I cannot complain and it is only good for display like you said Sam.

[@chasesrailwaylinesrr6447]

This looks like a really interesting wagon too bad to performance wasn't very good, Do you think you could 3D print a wagon in ON30 scale? Or loco

[@Trainfan1563]

Hi Sam Please review the beetles Hornby set that would be funny!

[@Jimyjames73]

An interesting Wagon Sam 😉🙂🚂🚂🚂

[@kenruble5292]

There is paint on the wheel treads. This will affect rolling.

[@PatGilliland]

In Flanders Fields BY JOHN MCCRAE In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie, In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields.

[@paulcarroll7767]

Nice Sam :)

[@Damien.D]

"I'm a rusted ruin! I don't want to run!" *derail* -the wagon.

[@stevenhaneklaus8087]

Looks good even though it doesn't do the points very good.

[@steve1315]

Very good 👍.

[@inimitablestoo]

14:15 I do wonder why people point to the track layout as an issue - these products are sold to your average consumer, you almost have to assume a worst case scenario (or at least a less than perfect one). Car reviewers don't get criticised for driving cars on roads that are too bumpy (indeed, I've read many where a car that goes well on a Mediterranean launch event drive gets marked down once confronted with the average potholed UK road)

[@GothicPrairie2319]

Anyone else notice the model centre signed the undercarriage, I like spotting little Easter eggs like this

[@Alextrains502]

Love your videos

[@vickielawless]

TMC have done an amazing paint job on this wagon, shame about the cornering! As a modeller of the heritage scene, I'd love this kind of custom graffiti art on say, a mk1 parcel van or similar, as if my 00 gauge preservationists have just bought it for restoration..

[@westerniowarailfan9480]

you should get more of those cars and run a train with a nice variety

[@Lennon6412]

War Christmas is here again!

[@brianmicky7596]

Hi Sam , Yes very good review, nice looking, glad someone thinks about the sacrifice they gave, hope the extra money goes to a good cause, nice one Sam, All the best Brian 😃👍

[@Alextrains502]

Cool

[@PORT_OF_PAR_2572]

I don’t mind the jia wagons but prefer the cda wagons they replaced first time I saw one of these in real life I got a load of dust in my eye which wasn’t very nice always carry some sunglasses now in case I see one 🤣

[@jamesthomas5109]

Love the union jack 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧

[@SamsTrains]

Me too! :D

[@williamsquires3070]

Someone probably followed the design drawings TOO closely; the wheelbase (of the model) should have been increased just slightly so the bogies can swing freely. This is common on HO scale models. This would probably not be an issue with a flatcar (flat wagon), but here, it looks like the bogies are hitting the hopper discharge chutes. 😢 All said, it would make a nice static display for a diorama.

[@nickedmonds4635]

Hi Sam I am trying to get some bits together for a display at the Ronald McDonald house hospital in Oxfordshire for the kids this Christmas do you have any old trains and track to donate for us please or do you know anyone we can ask?

[@robertlucido3686]

Yesterday was also a day to remember the 29 men lost about the lake freighter, the S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald

[@AlasdairLowe]

A few hours would have gone into that artwork - that's worth £100 of anyone's money as an add on

[@SamsTrains]

I think so too - it couldn't be more different from a mass-produced machine-printed job! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@jameshardy4354]

Do they even test things these days

[@R1chardH]

Mint that

[@michaelwhiles5282]

Hello from the UK ! Ps - My AS Class 37 turned up this week - SHOCKED - they are real and not like the Loch Ness monster at all !!

[@tobyytlai]

These are £100 each at TMC now

[@johnlong3214]

The weathering and detail look very good, only let down by an awful copy of the Union Jack, totally wrong. Great review though, thank you Sam.👍

[@PaulJohnson-u5h]

Before any forgets and don't we owe them men and women a hell of a lot

[@thomasfrancis5747]

Shame that they've put all that effort in and got the St.Patrick saltire (diagonal red cross) offset wrong.

[@NWRJ_WStudios]

14:54 lol.

[@nameless5413]

i only know about the wierd poppy seed thing as relating to veterans in general because i own 2 cannon fodder games.(they had huge controversy because of use of poppy on their cover). Not a fan of the particular art, so unless it is outright original not replica of something the painter was handed and coppies thousand times its unescesary gimmick. Weathering tho that i see plenty of value in - customers running industrial layout might appreciate something that looks like it was running for years in heavy duty.