TMS for Insomnia & Sleep? Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation for Depression, Treatment Day 23

[@kpcstv]

Have a nice day, everyone. The content this time you introduce is interesting and interesting, well worth seeing

[@DestinysMusings]

I'm so sorry! I never saw this comment until now! Thank you so much for your comment!!

[@omarradaro]

I don’t have a question, but I want to say this TMS gives me hope for getting better

[@DestinysMusings]

I'm so glad! Hang in there! Thank you for your comment!

[@AdventureTimMedia]

Well done Destiny. I know a bit about mental health medications due to someone close to me being on that journey but I had never heard of TMS. Really glad to hear it is helping you and I'm sure your content will help someone else. #vrafam

[@DestinysMusings]

Thanks, Tim! I appreciate it :) Thanks for watching!

[@bogse]

Im waiting TMS so much since I have depression, pain, tinnitus and insomnia. It would be a miracle to get tinnitus away and sleep normally, that would probably also remove depression, or removing depression would improve other things. Maybe this autumn or in few months. I normally sleep 1-4 hour a day.. in my worst I stayed up 5 days in a row.

[@DestinysMusings]

I'm so sorry you have to suffer so much! I hope that you can get the help you need. Suffering is not fun at all. Sending positive vibes your way.

[@michellekwik2907]

I have horrible insomnia too, it is so so difficult. Praying for you and praying you sleep. Did you try TMS?

[@bogse]

@@michellekwik2907 Yeah I got TMS. First two weeks I just had so rough time I bet TMS was just a waste of time and money. Then things settled down but iits had to say effects of TMS.. In my opinion it was done completely wrong. I asked TMS for pain and tinnitus but I got treated only for depression. My own opinion is cause of depression is tinnitus, insomnia and pain. Any sensible doctor would try to hit the reasons and not the symptom but I cant tell them what to do. I try to get to TMS for tinnitus later. Anyway at the end of it I think I felt somwehat better. I dont even know what depression is, and I think Im not depressed at all, its just insomnia, pain and tinnitus that suck all life of you. If they were removed Id probably be happy guy, or at least some of those or get milder.

[@bogse]

@@DestinysMusings I appreciate that, thanks.

[@DestinysMusings]

@@bogse hang in there! You never know what life brings and if you believe in not being alone, then you won’t be!

[@PickleFlixTV]

thx for this!! Im going to do TMS soon too

[@DestinysMusings]

Thanks for saying hi!! How is it going for you?

[@PickleFlixTV]

@@DestinysMusings have not started but I have a appointment next week! They were recommending 40 sessions

[@DestinysMusings]

@@PickleFlixTV Yep that sounds about the same for me, too! Keep me posted!! I hope for the best for you!

[@scottnathanphoto]

@@DestinysMusings How do you make something 5 days a week. That seems like the tough part.

[@DestinysMusings]

@@scottnathanphoto sorry for my late reply! It sounded hard to me, too, but I made sure to do it as the first part of my day. Starting to feel better made it much easier once I started it!

[@MrDayinthepark]

I'm waiting for insurance to decide to help pay for tms. I'm high-functioning autistic, so it might be different for me. I ache for a kinder world, where it's not so dog eat dog. I ache for a world without homeless people. But I wouldn't be so financially wealthy if I didn't understand how evil the world is. How anyone can not be depressed is what bewilders me.

[@DestinysMusings]

I hear you! Keep on your insurance. They often deny at first just as a matter of fact, but then you can appeal and they then usually cover. The world can be a rough place. I am sending you positive vibes and hoping you find relief! Hang in there and keep me posted!

[@kellynichols-harrison2349]

Thanks so much for your videos. They are super helpful

[@DestinysMusings]

Thanks so much for your comment and kind words! :) I appreciate it!

[@ClaireSara]

Hi Destiny! Thanks so much for sharing this, I'd never heard about TMS so it's really interesting to hear about. I had a massive operation earlier in the year and my sleep has suffered ever since and wonder if this could potentially be helpful for me. It's awesome you're being so open about your journey, looking forward to following along 🥰

[@DestinysMusings]

Thanks, Claire! I am just checking out your channel and you have so many cool videos! I really enjoy your personality and spirit! I’m sorry you had to have a massive operation-That sounds life-changing, holy moly! I’d love to hear your story sometime if you ever want to share! Sending hugs 🤗

[@ClaireSara]

@@DestinysMusings Thanks so much for checking out my videos! My appendix burst in Jan causing all kinds of chaos and claiming 15cm of my large intestine - not very fun! It's been a long recovery process and physically I'm now fine and super fortunate and grateful to be alive - a lot to be grateful for. The longest part of the recovery has definitely been my sleep. I still struggle to stay asleep due to hypervigilance. It is slowly improving and I try to have gratitude to the amazing job my body has done of healing physically and know it will continue improving with time. It's a challenging journey though!

[@DestinysMusings]

@@ClaireSara wow that’s incredible. I’m so sorry that happened to you. You have such a bright spirit! And your acknowledgment of gratitude is so powerful. Good on you! I’m so happy you’re doing okay physically. Hang in there with the sleep. I bet with perseverance you will get better ❤️‍🩹

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

What frequency and stimulation site helped with insomnia?

[@DestinysMusings]

Hi! I’m not a doctor and this protocol wasn’t specifically for insomnia-The location and frequencies are what they use for standard TMS treatment. I’ve got several videos explaining the process. This one is about exploring the idea that it might help some people insomnia. Hope that helps!

[@Veronica-lo1tw]

Most likely left DLPFC, 10hz. That’s the only protocol that is FDA approved and covered by insurance. It’s much less common for people to get some other protocol because insurance won’t cover it.

[@DestinysMusings]

@@Veronica-lo1tw thank you so much for this info!!!

[@ItsJonoWong]

I just got off lexapro for anxiety a couple of days ago but i have an appointment with a neurologist to try get theta burst tms for my middle insomnia (waking up in the middle of the night every night typically after one sleep cycle as shown on my oura ring) Since i have gotten off lexapro recently (have slowly eased off over a month) will there be any major issues if i get tms

[@DestinysMusings]

Hi! That’s a really great question! I think your doctor, hopefully knowing your unique biochemistry, could give you a better idea of what you might expect. I’m not familiar with there being any major issues of going into TMS having come off or going on antidepressants a month ago. My understanding is that when you change something during TMS, your brain will need to be remapped. I think the idea is that they don’t want any major changes during your 36 sessions. But if you’re just getting theta bursts, I’d ask your doctor. I am less familiar with that method. Sorry if this isn’t more helpful!

[@ItsJonoWong]

@@DestinysMusings no worries thanks! i want to get it asap! i feel like my depression and anxiety symptoms are gone but i just struggle stay asleep i wake up multiple times every night and sometimes it takes 30 - 60 mins to fall back asleep whic h drastically reduces my restfulness

[@DestinysMusings]

⁠please let me know how it goes/if it helps!!!

[@personman7096]

@@ItsJonoWongAny updates

[@ItsJonoWong]

@@personman7096 sleep has deifnitely gotten better, i've also come to terms it's normal to wake up in the middle of the night and then fall back asleep. The key for me is sleeping early enough so I get 7 - 8 hours of sleep

[@KristineLittle-k8i]

Hi I’m on day 21 or TMS and my head feels super overstimulated and every muscle in my body tensed up mostly in my shoulders neck and jaw.. definitely elevated an anxiety/panic which is mostly intolerable at night time. Is this normal? Will it pass?

[@DestinysMusings]

Hi! I’m sorry to hear that. My head definitely felt weird in the beginning because I am super-sensitive. But it did get better for me. I’d talk to your tech-Maybe the level is just not quite right, or they need to bump it down a bit. Since everyone responds so differently, I’d definitely talk to them, and your doc! We had to adjust my levels lower a couple of times throughout because sometimes I was just so sensitive. And some days I was more agitated and anxious…but in my case, things did pass. Will you let me know how it continues to go? Thinking of you and sending healing vibes.

[@KristineLittle-k8i]

@@DestinysMusings thank you. My anxiety and panic are still extremely elevated. I haven’t had it like this in 17 years. I was seen mh by provider yesterday for a dose check and my dose when up but my anxiety and panic went up.. day 4 of no sleep at all and hardly functioning. I sure hope this gets better. I can’t calm down.

[@DestinysMusings]

Hm, if you feel like your dose should actually be lower, then you should by all means be able to contact your doctor and express your concerns. You know your body best! Please keep me updated! We have to advocate for ourselves a lot in this world!@@KristineLittle-k8i

[@GaryFountainHills]

How are you sleeping 8 months later after the TMS?

[@DestinysMusings]

Hi there! Thanks for asking! I’m sleeping okay. My sleep was never perfect and I don’t know if it ever will be, but overall I feel like my sleep has improved. There are many factors that go in to it for me, though, so I’m not sure exactly how much TMS helped that, but, I can say it’s definitely not worse, and somewhat better, so I take that as a win. Now, if only I didn’t need so much sleep! 😆

[@michaelmalone6348]

wow I wish for the day I can get 4 - 5hrs sleep mostly 3 -4 tops

[@DestinysMusings]

I hear you! I wished that too, and now, many years later, I wish I didn’t need so much sleep, haha! I can’t function without 9. It’s like our bodies want to play constant tricks on us. Sleep is hard. I’ve found the #Headspace app to be helpful with sleep.

[@viesuwito]

Too bad TMS doesn’t help my insomnia. It made me so sleepy (for which I don’t need help with), to the point I can’t function during the day.

[@DestinysMusings]

Thanks for your comment and I’m sorry to hear that! Maybe your providers can adjust the settings or figure out something to help you. I’m sorry you’re struggling! I hadn’t heard of that before!

[@michellekwik2907]

So you had TMS and it did not help your insomnia but made you sleepy? I am going to try it for insomnia. I sleep 0 to 6 hours a night, it is horrible.

[@DestinysMusings]

@@michellekwik2907 I wouldn’t say TMS made me sleepy. I would say that as depression got better I was able to relax more, and well…That made me sleepy….finally!