#718

Take a look at this beauty! Decked out with LED's throughout, a new motor for the spinning disc and all the usual TNT Amusements touches that make this game simply STUNNING! Could this be based on the Disney movie? Hmmm!
Here is a link to purchase all the parts to make it spin!
peakpinball.com/2014/04/04/bla...
Here is the motor:
Replacement SPINNER MOTOR can be ordered here! www.ebay.com.au/itm/255540952...
#BlackHolePinball #TntAmusements #GottliebPinball

[@Interlink98]

This is probably my favorite Pinball table ever! I could listen to you talk about this stuff all day long, too.

[@tntamusements]

+Interlink98 So many people like this game, it seems....fan base is growing!

[@Interlink98]

Thanks to you I had no idea it was based on a Disney property either.

[@RecallEvents]

New fan here.. played recently more pinball tables and also virtual ones.. this machine i never came across irl but im about to. The virtual version of this machine made me fall in love because the gameplay is so good. Pretty hard to get to multiball with all bonusses but when you get it it will blast your highscore into space ❤ The dual layer multi-ball really messes with your brain haha its just too good. Thx for restoring this, black hole needs to stay around for a looooong while Best machine ever imo

[@LawmanIL]

I really love this one. Gottleib machines have an elegant simplicity that just works.

[@tntamusements]

+DayTripperID This game is now finding its way into quite a few game rooms now!

[@etheridgeerik]

Yes! My favorite Gottlieb game. I hope to be able to buy one this coming year.

[@bobbyberetta4206]

Goes to show you how old I am, I was searching online for parts to my Black Hole pinball and I stumbled upon something called Pinball Arcade. It's basically a virtual video game of it, also not only do they have black hole but a ton of other awesome tables. I'm still learning about it but it's from a company called FarSight Studios and they have a website if anyone is interested. I think it's just amazing and my son has gotten into it himself. Man I'm old.

[@tntamusements]

We ALL are getting old!

[@chikapunk4340]

Pinball fans are old. Niche hobby

[@josephebacon]

I've never seen this machine. It sure does look beautiful!

[@tntamusements]

Joseph Bacon Thanks!!!

[@Svante]

What a beautiful machine that is! My all time favorite pinball machine, and also THE first pinball machine I ever played back in the early 80:s, and I was instantly hooked. :) I love that lower playfield and that spinning hole.

[@tntamusements]

Svante Skoog It is a nice package!

[@aegisofhonor]

one of the best pinball games of the early solid state era. I was at a pinball convention some years ago and the Black Hole there was broke down, the owner said he got it to work but things just keep going wrong with it, he probably didn't know the tricks to get this thing to work like you guy did. Great job redoing this classic.

[@tntamusements]

Thank you!!

[@MAG8163]

Thanks for this and alle the other nice videos. That inspired me to get my black hole working again. It wasn't played for 22 years now. I'm soo exited :) Keep on rockin' !

[@tntamusements]

+MAG8163 Thank you for your comment!! You may enjoy this video with the comparison of Black Hole with and without LED's! kzbin.info/www/bejne/n57OdZ2XlLuneMU

[@Riz2336]

Man that machine is awesome. One of my favorite pinball machines. That was funny when the ball shot out of the game completely lol.

[@tntamusements]

:-)

[@JohnSmith-bn7bl]

wow great looking pin. the backglass is amazing

[@tntamusements]

John Smith Yes...they did a nice job with it!

[@fireproofneo]

What a cool looking game! Never got to play Black Hole.

[@gallimead]

One of those pins Todd, that created lines three deep to play. Limited to 2 credits (30p a credit, 2 for a 50p coin). Filled up the money box quick. And then Haunted House came out. One arcade in Blackpool UK, had then side by side, constantly on 4 player rotation.

[@tntamusements]

gallimead Yes...the lines were here in the USA also! I remember when we had one delivered to my Game Room at Temple University that I managed...lines to play it all day!

[@MikeGervasi]

TNT Amusements Inc And must have been murder to keep running before we knew the ground mods were needed.

[@doctorandyace]

Very good movie.. one of my favorites! Want the pin :)

[@tntamusements]

Andreas AndYAce We have a few more!

[@skyway73]

How have I never heard of that Disney movie before?? Or maybe I just don't remember it... Great machine, that lower playfield is such a great touch, lovely stuff.

[@tntamusements]

skyway73 The movie is okay...not the greatest, but terrific special effects! It took quite awhile to gather that footage and then add in the music I wanted...as the music is from otehr aprts of the film...and also blend in the movie trailer thats not high def....but thats the fun of movie making!

[@sohchx]

Todd, by any chance can you list the part numbers for all of the parts that are required to update this machine? I had a hard time reading the digits on the beefier coil.

[@BigOldCarChannel]

Stunning machine. Excellent work!

[@tntamusements]

BigOldCar Thanks!

[@SwedishEmpire1700]

Geez, i love that old Disney movie, never knew they made a pin out of it "MAXIMILIAN!"

[@tntamusements]

+Luzur Well, Gottlieb did not associate the game with the movie...but they were out about the same time...and since the words The Black Hole are not copyrighted, Gottlieb had no problems. The spinning disc was similar to the spinning Black Hole title in the movie trailer though...made the game AFTER the

[@HankFerling]

When you run across another one of these-I want to buy it!

[@tntamusements]

They sell for $3999 now, with all this work done to them!

[@monalong8900]

[6:20] I throw them away and use Stepper motors scavenged from old commercial printers, use Arduino Nano with a L298 H-bridge driver. Readily available parts. The stepper motor noise not that hard to deal with ,be running very low power will not make the familiar Stepper noise. System1 and system 80 a b c ruined Gottlieb's reputation over using flat pins on their PCBs bad contacts and their somewhat odd circuit grounds. System 3 is solid enough I believe it was just too expensive to produce. Favorite Gottlieb? "Hollywood Heat" It's artwork layout is so bad it begged me to replace that yellowed translite with my own creation.

[@Paulywint]

I played this game a lot in the 80s and we also had it at my step-father's bar that he managed for several years. I only achieved multiball once on this game since it was extremely difficult to achieve multiball. If I remember correctly one the ball drains whether it is from the main playfield or the lower playfield once you lock the balls, you had to start all over.

[@tntamusements]

Paul W Yes...that was an adjustable setting...it will not let you play locked balls if you had the dip switches set for "hard"!

[@mathaeis]

I have a BH machine in pieces (but great looking condition) in my garage that I'm getting ready to rebuild. This is my first time doing something like this, and I'm trying to gather all the resources I can to make sure I make it last. So first, thank you for this video. But one thing that confused me. What do you mean when you say "reheat"?

[@tntamusements]

reflow solder on any header pins in the game (power supply, pop bumper boards for sure)

[@dvddmc]

Todd have you ever done a black hole with Red light instead of Blue?

[@fortytwopinball6888]

TNT, what did you use for LED's in the pop bumpers. I noticed they light purple with a blue center. Trying to get ideas for decking mine out. Also for the inserts did you use the standard flat top LED's.

[@tntamusements]

+Ed Owens I cannot remember now...this was well over a year ago!

[@marco1173]

Love this machine! It's not officially connected to the Disney film, but nonetheless one of the best designs ever in pinball.

[@tntamusements]

TrollBuster Ahhh...but everyone thought it was!

[@marco1173]

TNT Amusements Inc Just like many people think *Attack from Mars* is connected to the movie *Mars Attacks*. Some even say it's a coincidence XD Sorry guys, no coincidences in business, nope!

[@MaceBlackmonSexyNerdRecords]

Nice job!

[@tntamusements]

Tour De Flex Records Thanks!

[@vpaul]

Awesome video as usual! Do you have a link for the 2 rpm motor? I need a new one for mine. Great machine for any collection, always a crowd favorite.

[@tntamusements]

Vincent Paul I posted three different sites in the description!

[@Jamesnov1970]

This machine seems to be hard to find in Australia. Thanks for showing this...

[@tntamusements]

You're welcome!!

[@musicman97]

That replacement motor is nice and quiet, but it turns far too slowly... the stock motor runs about three times as fast as this one. (like perhaps 11 RPM instead of just two) The spinning effect is lost with the lower RPM. The upgrades and mods are beautifully done. Where does one order the LED spinners effect for the backglass mods?

[@Ur2ez4me81]

Wish they would remake this machine, along w/ other 70's - 80's pinball gems!

[@tntamusements]

***** That would be nice if they did.

[@user-ir2sy9ut1e]

it is beautiful

[@tntamusements]

Thank you!

[@gordonk9001]

The Pinball table wasn't based on the movie of the same name

[@DavidKyle]

Black Hole, Cirqus Voltaire... it's all the same right? LOL! Great looking machine! I had to pause it a few times to just sit and stare at the details. You forgot to mention the getting the multiplier up in the lower play field. I like to do that first.

[@tntamusements]

David Kyle :-) Yes...this game has plenty of neat features for people to explore!!

[@054lifephillyfan]

well Todd, I watched this film last night based on this video and your endorsement.... it was fan-freaking-tastic. old Bob... what a character. didn't much care for the ending but what are ya gonna do.. great movie thanks for the tip

[@tntamusements]

Yes...sadly it was neglected back then!

[@lylejohnson1093]

It has been a long time since I was in electronics but, it can create a problem with too many ground wires. I forget what it does. I am also into astronomy and black holes are interesting. The movie is good.

[@tntamusements]

Lyle Johnson Yes...I enjoyed the film too!

[@exodia9817]

+TNT Amusements Inc How many times did you have to put up with the machine when it would break down when you were playing it.

[@tntamusements]

+Justin Blystone Until Gottlieb worked out all the bugs, there were numerous breakdowns

[@exodia9817]

+TNT Amusements Inc Aside from that, I bet that some people were cross-eyed and confused after playing with the inverse playfield.

[@tntamusements]

enough times to give me all the grey hair you see on my head!

[@exodia9817]

TNT Amusements Inc If that was supposed to be a joke, that was good.

[@mbtmusic7231]

I've played this game several times, and while I love it, it's really stinking difficult! :-D

[@tntamusements]

***** When playing correctly, its a boatload of fun!

[@mbtmusic7231]

TNT Amusements Inc I believe it. Still enjoy it even though I stink. :)

[@bigbusa1]

Roughly how much does a similar restoration of the black hole cost? It would be awesome if you mentioned costs because that's the 1st thing on peoples minds. thanks

[@tntamusements]

Cost runs between 2300 and $2800--depending on time and parts!

[@sgraem]

Surprisingly, a website called ModMyPin.com actually makes glow-in-the-dark pinballs! They were made to mainly be used in Sega's Viper Night Drivin', but Black Hole would look awesome with them. On their website, there's actually a video showing how great the effect really is. The only problem is that the outer shell is made of plastic (with a steel core for playfield magnets), so the lifespan is somewhat reduced. However, they claim that the plastic is much harder than the original Viper Night Drivin' balls. Also, they're $60(!) for a 4-pack! Definitely an insanely steep price, but still an intriguing idea!

[@tntamusements]

sgraem But, its a great mod to your game!

[@TheJuiceExpress]

Do you know the set of LEDs you used for this machine?

[@tntamusements]

At this time we were using exclusively Pinball Life LED's...but we would order all different styles and combine them for best effect.

[@SecretofSquare]

Where can I get a vintage 1990 Todd Tuckey autographed photo?

[@tntamusements]

Riku Deisiki STop in and I will pose for one!!

[@dvddmc]

The Black Hole was An awesome Movie

[@tntamusements]

dvddmc It has some good moments for sure!

[@MidniteClimax]

I was wondering if you would ever use the anypin NVRAM. I run one of those on my pinball magic! Strange choice of game to run it on, I know, but its just one less thing to worry about. Anyways, the game looks terrific. I just love black hole. It's the most beautiful pinball of all time in my opinion. Just a classic!

[@tntamusements]

David Slaymaker Customer send that to us to put in...he wanted it instead of a battery!

[@MidniteClimax]

Its a really cool idea. Not nearly as cost effective as just switching to a lithium battery, but you never ever have to fuss with it again which is nice plus it just looks so trick sitting there on the board!

[@jenkinsljenkinssquire9137]

what was the restoration cost for that?

[@tntamusements]

+Bennett Hastings We charge between $2200 and $2700 to restore a Black Hole.

[@jameskennedy4377]

It looks to me that instead of being officially licensed by Disney, this machine may have just been conveniently manufactured/timed to coincide with the release of the film. For one thing, none of the artwork resembles anything from the movie. Second, the pinball game is called 'Black Hole' while the film's title was 'The Black Hole'. Finally, I couldn't spot any Disney logos anywhere on the machine.

[@tntamusements]

James Kennedy no...there is no disney credits on the game...but its too close for coincidence!

[@marco1173]

James Kennedy Correct, this machine is not a Disney licensed product.

[@mariasanchezbelgrado7773]

This machine is god.

[@tntamusements]

It has developed a new following!

[@shadowgam3]

I never heard or scene that movie before.. I'm gonna check it now.. Thanks for that info. Cool Mug, BTW.. Did U see the 3 Stooges movie That came out in 2012? That was alright movie.. I grew up watching reruns of the 3 Stooges.. That movie brought back memories.. If U haven't, U should.. Just for the heck of it.. :)

[@tntamusements]

William Schaeffer yes...the new movie was okay...but there were some very slow sequences...wish it was better!

[@chazzlucas6395]

Ernest !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : )

[@SagePatrynXX]

like watching Airwolf at the beginning. Ernest my hero :P course he played a Roman Guard in Jesus of Nazareth about the same time. :P of 1979

[@SagePatrynXX]

must be a link to show how the LED's /bubs go in the mirrored glass have yet to see one. should do a flashback when your doing one. :) I'm not very good with this game. Brother loves it though.

[@TNT_Mancave]

Such a weird movie. Awesome pin though even if they aren't linked. We share initials btw. Only other person I've seen with TNT initials.

[@tntamusements]

Todd Teghtmeyer TNT are great intials, aren;t they?

[@Fortuna1]

Exist 2 Black hole versions This and the static version, differences?, the black hole not move

[@tntamusements]

Yes...the overseas one did not move...there is a link to one in lower down comments!

[@ericmiller3708]

Enter the Cube... Oops wrong game. ;-) :-D

[@tntamusements]

:-)

[@mfuji02]

Where's vincent? and the cygness?

[@tntamusements]

+mfuji02 Never found them!

[@mfuji02]

TNT Amusements Inc got to go through and beyond the black hole and look for them

[@ForkLiftCertified]

Rumors are flying on pinside about your eBay listing, fire sale@tnt Amusments .You might wanna chime in.

[@tntamusements]

I have had those listings up for 4 years now...costs me zero (I have a store and listings are free) and gets me sales of individual games---made one 12 game sale at retail to an office in Texas because of listing! No one will ever buy the package---I know that!

[@ForkLiftCertified]

But rumors are that you are selling everything to get out of the business.

[@tntamusements]

Scott Cagney The first 2 million dollars takes it! And I will stay to help run it for a year free!

[@SecretofSquare]

TNT Amusements Inc No you can't leave! Pinball wouldn't be the same without the TNT Amusement informercials!!

[@SpreadingtheMuse]

If its based on the Disney film, how come it doesnt use any of the artwork, or font, or even have the Disney logo? Dont think so :/

[@tntamusements]

SpreadingtheMuse I am sure Disney was thrilled whgen this was released! Even the spinning logo is disney all over!

[@SpreadingtheMuse]

TNT Amusements Inc It doesnt look a thing like Disney's spinning logo

[@marco1173]

SpreadingtheMuse It's not licensed by Disney.

[@SpreadingtheMuse]

TrollBuster Thats what I thought, I was responding to the author of the video who said it was "from the movie." Its obviously not, and he made a goof.

[@retroelectrical]

The Taito version of "Black Hole" had much less impressive backglass artwork. www.classicplayfields.com/brazil22.jpg

[@tntamusements]

WOW! Neat to see this version!

[@Ascyltos]

I bet you know all about playing with your fingers while you hold your ball.

[@tntamusements]

Ascyltos now, now, now!

[@lifeandmore369]

Sorry, but this game is not based on the Disney movie. They just happened to be released close to the same time. It's right here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hole_%28pinball%29 Otherwise, you have a great game there. Thanks for posting! I also have a Black Hole pinball.

[@tntamusements]

Rob Jones Well...the movie came out in 1979...and this game in 1981 (so it started development perhaps in late 79 early 80?) Paying licensing to Disney would have been extra-ordinary too...and the words Black Hole really cannot be copyrighted anyway, so releasing it later (especially since by 1981 everyone kind of forgotten about the movie), was a no-brainer!! I would have to guess that the designers got the idea from the movie!! AND, you have to admit the swirling circle in the pinball machine is awfully like the logo at the end of this video!!! AND, since its my video, I can say whatever i want!!! :-)

[@BallenvanStaal]

Hi Todd! Could you give me a link to where you got the alternative motor? Mine still has the original. Which, indeed, makes too much noise. Cool video, by the way! Makes me want to play mine. Check out my gameplay video here: Gottlieb Black Hole pinball gameplay (with PI-80 X4)

[@tntamusements]

Ballen van Staal Yes...a current link of one you can buy on ebay is in the description!

[@Japz80]

TNT Amusements Inc Thanks Todd! I've bought it and installed it in my own Black Hole. Smooth movement and no more noise. Excellent!

[@tntamusements]

The link is posted in the description!

[@8589brian]

Black Hole pinball has been around for a long time and has no tie in with any film.

[@tntamusements]

Brian hooper Well, Black hole movie comes out...and then less than a year later, a pinball by the same name!!! No tie in needed...its already assumed!

[@NaviglioNoyz]

7:33 scary sexual maniac smile

[@tntamusements]

:-)

[@chazzlucas6395]

Todd you should give pinball lessons at least once a month, you have to show younger people how to play ... you could charge 30 bucks an hour

[@tntamusements]

I would do it for free!

[@MikeGervasi]

The movie was 79. The Pin was 81. No connection to the movie.

[@tntamusements]

Mike Gervasi but everyone thought there was

[@bansheebot2]

Horrible movie. My dad took my bro and me to see it when it came out. Nice machine though.

[@tntamusements]

bansheebot2 Give the movie another look!! Glad you like the game!