⭐️To Center.. or not to Center? _(Z Reviews)_ Home Theater 103

[@ZReviews]

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[@therealdeal2268]

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[@ZReviews]

Upon Re-watch I seem to ramble and lose track of what I am saying a bit more than usual in this one. My apologies. If you guys want a re-do I can make it happen at some point. Try to follow along with Sleep Deprivation Zeos at home!

[@stewiegriffin993]

Why? Tbh this is one of the most in-depth and informative videos you've ever done

[@gravity_assisted]

how long could you make a video? like we have something better to do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@axelpanic]

Only question I have, rb 42 or mb-42x? Does the crossover make it worth it?

[@xraycat82]

Well, no one will configure their receiver to have a centre channel and not connect it. Why not compare using fronts for LCR channels and fronts + centre for LCR?

[@adam3402]

Nahh you’re good man. Already knew all of this from watching your videos for years but still enjoyed the 43 minutes of Zeos chatter as always. Good informative stuff. Stay safe my friend.

[@DadsDomain]

I had two ultra towers and the PB3000. My wife just got me the Ultra Center for my Bday and she said its been her favorite upgrade so far. She loves what it did to the sound, she doesn't know why, but she loves it and she knows nothing about audio. Highest praise I can give it is her approval 😉

[@homeboi808]

Do you have off-axis listeners that you care about? If yes, then use a center.

[@ZReviews]

Illegal Summary Detected. Need to stretch this out.

[@commanderrussels2612]

@@ZReviews For 42 minutes?! Using all China Flu gear?!! At least you could have made a steak during for a z-cooks hybrid episode.

[@bennya5171]

Guys can I just do a 4.1 instead of 5.1? I don’t really like to spend a lot on just the center so I was thinking just do the ultras for left and right add a sub then prime satellites for surround.

[@viktorspett8819]

@@bennya5171 YES - definitaly, please believe me for good (and Z Reviews)

[@18000rpm]

@@bennya5171 Yes as long as you can configure a virtual or phantom center channel. The only downside is a listener off to the side will hear the center channel off-center. If you only care about the one central listening position then it works perfectly fine.

[@ZReviews]

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[@amitdawar1]

Hey Z, link on 102 receiver link above is the same as link to 104 rear channel link. Thanks for all your Videos, I have 4 amps and a house full of speakers thanks to you .. but I love it :)

[@oscarjung5405]

Do the Surround receiver "know" if the center is not connected? Ie does it filter out sounds in the fronts when the center is not connected?

[@filippiasec]

@@oscarjung5405 You might need to setup it correctly e.g. from 5.1 to 4.1.

[@paulmcgowan2250]

Center match for Buchardt S400s?

[@ZReviews]

@@amitdawar1 Sorry, Fixed it.

[@Zoranurai13]

A friend of mine was running two beastly canton tower speakers and a leftover bose center. He thought he needed it. I came by and pulled out the center. He never heard his speakers sound so good

[@Zircemerald]

I gave my father my ELAC debut B5s when I moved out to replace his old, cheap Pioneer floorstanders from the early 90s. It was originally a 5.1 setup but I changed it to 2.1. I came home and he was using the center channel again, claiming it sounded better. The Pioneer center speaker was a big elongated box with one 3" paper woofer with a *sealed* frame, making the entire enclosure useless. I told him NO, and removed it. I may just have to buy a center so he doesn't have to unknowingly suffer!

[@DareDevilPhil]

@@Zircemerald depending on how old he is, the extra volume from that centre (especially since it doesn't add much low-end) probably just made the voices and such more audible for him.

[@gino3286]

@@DareDevilPhil am i wrong about that the dialogues are recorded mostly in the center channel ?

[@DareDevilPhil]

@@gino3286 yeah typically anything that is the primary focus on-screen is through the center channel

[@gino3286]

@@DareDevilPhil hi thanks for the kind confirmation I have noticed that all the dialogues come from the center Only the effects are coming from the other channels I think that 5.1 and more formats have been a disgrace 4 channels are more than enough to provide a complete 360 degrees audio like in quadriphonic recordings

[@thomasfox8027]

An entire video of Zeos talking about center channel speakers makes me so very, very happy. And is exactly why I'm a patron. But i am also a real sicko.

[@ZReviews]

Real Sicko's should join Princess Pasta's Patreon.

[@thomasfox8027]

@@ZReviews I will look into it, Z!

[@MrElebee]

Play this on speed 1.25 and it sounds like Robert Downey Jr. / Tony Stark talking to us about center channels

[@wielandwiens2822]

I always play on 1.75 or 2.0 except when he plays us some movies/ music. :^)

[@WiiNV]

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[@kevinsetterlund]

Lol nice

[@SamuraiGuy]

Wow I doubted you, but it's so true.

[@bradthurkle7217]

@@troysparks3772 hehe 😜 arrrrr love it 🙏🏻

[@MJ-ge6jz]

When Zeos speaks, I listen, especially when there is a center channel!

[@bigadventure3797]

I agree the center is the most important in home theater but I can tell from experience that when I swapped out my rear bookshelf's for towers it made a Huge Difference. The sound coming from the rear matched the fullness coming from the front and made the overall experience more immersive and believable.

[@ec6843]

lol using towers as surrounds

[@yogabyaakaash]

I would love to have towers for all speakers, that would be something!

[@sumbochen]

Straight-up baller a move 🤑💰

[@barneyjones5174]

Hey Z, while some don't use a center speaker and they're happy doing phantom, there are reasons to use a center that can't be accomplished otherwise. A center speaker allows you flexibility - to raise or lower the volume of the center speaker and dialog. Even if you like the flanking fronts for music, they may not be to your taste for movies and dialog. I had this situation and chose a different brand for my center - it blended nicely and outstanding vocal clarity, no struggles.

[@PhillipMik]

I ordered the JBL 520 center literally a day before I watched this video. When I heard Z say they're one of the best centers, I've never felt so relieved in my life.

[@edmund2j]

Best way to improve center channel is to use a dedicated subwoofer. I did on mine and the dialog is awesome. I can't believe my ears the sounds I missed without the sub. Like Z said, expirement. Glad I did.

[@gordonm6128]

I am using 2 Wilson Sasha 2 with massive Krell amplification for fronts in 2 channel mode. I also listen in 2 ch mode when watching movies. Absolutely no center needed. The Wilson’s image so well and put voices dead center. I don’t care about any other seating positions except the one I’m sitting in.

[@viperracing2889]

Also, for a small home theater, sometimes the best left and right speakers are two MTM center speakers standing on their end. They often offer higher sensitivity, lower bass, higher power handling and better imaging than regular bookshelf-type speakers.

[@floz9718]

@30:00 Exactly! I notice this in the movie theater a lot as well and it also bothers me a lot. I'm just experimenting with integrating a center speaker ( I have 3 identical LCRs) again in system after years of using phantom center. The effect is noticeable at home as well but it's not as problematic as in the theater, I guess the bigger the screen the bigger the issue...

[@frankcaruso6781]

I totally agree about the center channel is most important. I certainly running three tower speaks for front channels and it sounds amazing.

[@Leondc123]

Zeos... great... great job. really thanks for doing this. You are not "only a reviewer"... you are a professor about the HIFI and a great entertainer. I see all your videos cause i know that i will learn something in each of them and have a good time watching you speaking about the passion of everybody here... the HIFI wolrd. Once more, thank you.

[@FalconsATL]

I went from several Def Techs to Canton to the Prime Pinnacles with Prime Center then to the Ultra Center. The Ultra Center is by far the best center channel I’ve had to date!

[@zagornica]

I think all you have to do is disable the center in receiver to route the channel to FL-FR, when you disconnect the speaker the receiver still send the center channel on center out

[@brosmile9388]

This is what he failed to do in his remove one wire from the center channel scenario. It's "missing" a lot of audio because the AVR is still configured to push center channel audio while he has it unplugged. Had he gone into the setup on the AVR and removed the center channel, it would have sent all of the "missing" audio to the LR speakers.

[@brianlaplume]

This is the best center channel conversation on the internet.

[@robertorodriguez2609]

I used the phantom center channel for years until I got sick and tired of turning down the volume in loud action scenes and turning up again so voices could be heard. of course, a HT receiver had to be acquired but everything is OK now, a center channel spkr is necessary for my ears' well being.

[@filipcza]

I'm currently building my new theatre and I'm wrestling with myself with this: "To center or not to center, that is the guestion?" I have good left and right tower speakers which I would like to use to their full extent, and so I was thinking: not to center. But then.. I have also done the same thing as Roberto.. turning the volume up and down between action and dialogue.. so now I'm wondering if I must get a center after all. It just seems like I don't use the towers full potential if I put on a center. Well, maybe I'll try both ways and see which is better.

[@jessielees]

I agree in part - IF you run a center channel it is definitely the most important speaker in a surround setup, however if you are i. the situation where you can get uour front L and R placement and seating just right, a phantom center channel is an excellent choice too, as long as you're getting good center imaging from your seat.

[@praxis22]

I thought that too, until I bought a Yamaha DSP AZ2, with it's 8 channel stereo mode. you can be sitting at right angles to the speakers at one end of the room outside the speaker "box" and still got a perfect stereo image. Though if you want something special, listen to the end credits of "The Animatrix" that is amazing experience in surround.

[@askmatt7283]

I will go one better...I use a pair of SVS Ultra Centers as my main Left and Right Speakers in a 2.1 configuration for music exclusively. The sound is phenomenal. The SVS Ultra Center is a true 3 way speaker. The dome tweeter handles the highs, the 4 inch driver handles the upper mids and the dual 6.5 drivers handle the lower mids. Bass Management is set at 80 Hz and routs all LFE to the sub. The 3 way speaker design of the SVS Ultra Center reproduces music in a way I have not heard in any other system. Very detailed and revealing. I hear stuff I have never heard before in albums I have owned and enjoyed for years. Its an unconventional configuration for sure but sometimes you have to step outside the norm to do something special. Highly recommended!

[@philmissy1]

This coming from the man how never uses a centre channel. Thats gold.

[@rinserofwinds]

Great take, i completly agree. Bought my fronts last months (Nubert Nuline 122, 47kg a box) and now my center (Nubert Nuline CS72, 16,5kg) sounds much smaller. Had phantom center for years, because no center speaker, that i could pay for, would be good enough. Then i started this system with the CS72 as most expensive speaker i had bought untill then. It served me well for years and i thought about just using more CS72 as front and surround. But i still bouahgt the huge Nuline 122 as fronts, because of loudspeaker crazyness.

[@baloosd]

i abandoned center channel over a decade ago. now run 4.4.2 with matching towers and subs. to my ear, phantom center is much better.

[@AudioNaut93]

So you run 4 mains, 4 surrounds and 2 subwoofers? That’s gotta be one hell of a sonic assault!

[@snakedude61]

I would also add. If you have a relatively narrow room like mine is long and narrow. Giggity. If you pin all that stuff to the center Channel. When the sides kick in it can be a little jarring. It seems to integrate better without the center.

[@richardsmith1161]

Thanks to you I’m now using my up firing Atmos for surrounds. It really ads a new dimension

[@iheartwindshields9770]

is this setup much better than running them as height channels? Depending upon selection of program, Atmos doesn't have many effect

[@nickhardt2486]

Z I just bought my first center today, but I’ve had the other surround for 7 years and I never once heard what you’re hearing here. Everything was always crystal clear.

[@richardvacanti9428]

What if I have good front speakers . Paradigm book shelf speakers. Forgot the model number. Cost $450 12 years ago. And have the svs ultra center channel. This thing rocks

[@M.C.D.Technologies]

I ended up getting 2 Rockville RSG8 8" speakers and a Behringer KM750 to power them. It works surprisingly well, before that I was using a huge old Klipsch Tangent T30 that I got for dirt cheap.

[@brandonlesco8738]

I am running Klipsch RP-280F LR with the matching 440C in the center, with a 100W JBL powered sub out of a wonderful Yamaha receiver. So a 3.1 system, essentially. Music sounds incredible and movie night is superb. I don’t care about surround sound, but the center channel is what ties it all together for me. When I used to use just my old Sony SS-B3000s I had to crank the volume up SO LOUD to hear dialogue. Now I can comfortably watch Netflix at a reasonable lower volume but still crank it for a more “cinematic” experience. My old Sonys still get used plenty in another room for music :)

[@frankvee]

I think you misunderstand how surround sound decoding works. The center channel is indeed important, but to say the LEFT and RIGHT are not important and that for movies everything comes out of the center, that is incorrect. In your video before you plug in your center channel, your processor is still decoding to 7.1, so any sound that is meant to come out of the center is not heard until the speaker is plugged back in. If the content you are watching is mostly center weighted then, yes, you will hear most of the sound coming out of the center, but don't let that fool you. The focus changes from one scene to another, and the left and right speakers play a huge role in creating a life-like effect. One of the main uses of the left and right is playing the films' score, music is used to fill the room and often the center is also included for this task in conjunction with the left and right speakers. So I would put equal weight on the center, left and right speaker. In fact, the ideal LCR set up is three identical speakers. If you don't believe in the importance of the left and right, when compared to the center, try substituting them with poor quality speakers and try watching an entire movie that way. I think you'll quickly change your mind.

[@filippiasec]

Too long for his attention span lol

[@path9mm]

Well said!

[@ZReviews]

I would miss not having the left and right, BUT I think they are under-utilized with most modern mixes.

[@frankvee]

@@ZReviews Watch a movie you know well in 7.1, and then watch it again with your LEFT and RIGHT off, but don't change the mix down. In other words, don't let the decoder know that you have unplugged the left and right speakers. You will notice a huge difference, and you'll realize just how critical the left and right speakers are. Most of the music and sound effects come out of the left and right speakers. The center channel mostly carries dialogue, punches and other sound effects in action films, and occassionally music as well.

[@chriswelljack4910]

If u configure your set up with telling the reciever or preamp no center then its gonna send center duties to the front left and right so gonna get center channel sound but yur fronts have to be set up real good so u can get that center imaging

[@na_98_45]

One of the best talking there man! Center is critical

[@737core]

thank you mighty Z you are a formidable force in the realm of KZbin audio channels! I am turning my def tech center with integrated sub off due to your wisdom as I have kef r11s in the front.

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

Thats a kickass looking center channel !!

[@Stan_the_Belgian]

You should also add that it depends on your screen size. On a 70" tv your center will be half as big as the tv, so no real issue. I also have 2 big fronts and dual subs, but a center makes the sound more envelopping

[@ChadKirk]

Thanks Z! Really helped me figure out how important a C is! I'm excited to get it!

[@TheJjjoj]

The way surround pushes everything to the center channel is one of the reasons I typically dislike or even hate surround over something like all channel stereo with very specific tuning to allow for better ability to hear dialogue. With this, I lose some of the directional audio but get a much more enveloped sound since the same information is being sent to all left and right channels. I've never understood the desire for directional audio over detailed, enveloping audio. That's just my preference though so I won't hate on anyone who does. I also listen to music like 95% of the time for any speaker I have so I obviously have a preference for stereo just due to familiarity.

[@CaptHotah]

40 mins later still can't decide if i should buy a center or not. Thanks Z 🤣🤣

[@18000rpm]

That's what I do too. I have 6-ft tall MartinLogan Prodigy front speakers and there's no comparable center speaker (not even from MartinLogan), nor do I have the space under the TV for it. 4.1 ftw, who cares about people sitting off-axis (it won't be me).

[@jds6000]

I own the Klipsch RP504C-II and IMO the CC is an ABSOLUTE MUST! This is ESPECIALLY TRUE for Movies! Even playing Music in ALL CHANNEL STEREO, this CC ROARS! I’m running Klipsch RP600M-II, Klipsch SW12 Subwoofer and Onkyo NR7100 receiver. Soon to be adding Klipsch RP8000F-II speakers and I will STILL include my CC! My system sounds GREAT either in Movie or Music Mode because of my CC. The CC makes everything in my system sound much better!

[@ryanr6240]

I like the idea of 3 identical bookshelf speakers for the front 3, my problem is only have about 10 inches between the tv and stand, not many are 10 inches tall or less.

[@JMNTN]

2:11 how is that not a meme yet

[@houssamalucad753]

ikr I burst out laughing

[@AaronTyson]

I'll agree with many others here. You really don't need a center channel speaker. If your L/R already images well you can get by without it. If you do plan on using a center and surround speakers. The you should buy a matching set.

[@samidebs3559]

Hi how about the ultra center with the prime bookshelf ? 80% movies 20% music

[@David-hy7rn]

So no SVS in the center recommendations list? Or does the Ultra up top overshadow the whole list?

[@rosedcurt2865]

Also wondering this.. im getting the ultra bookshelves pretty soon! 😁

[@matthuston1767]

Everything said in this video is relatable. I have klipsch dual 8 towers ran them phantom 2.1 for 2 years. Just bought an older top of the line big center at a good price. Even tho it’s soft dome and not horn loaded it blends fine for movies. Off for music so it works perfectly. Thanks for your wealth of knowledge z. Love ya bro stay safe!

[@travel5456]

I know you love the JBL 520C. I replaced my Centre with Emotiva C1+. I'm alot happier. Won't sell my JBL 530s, I love those.

[@patrickcooks1851]

I have elac speakers two front towers and center channel and two book shelf need a power amplifier

[@dilbertisms]

Don't you have to set up the receiver with no center channel for a comparison with and without center channel? Does pulling the plug from the center work as well?

[@TacticalGhost007]

You are correct. Simply disconnecting the center speaker will not trigger the R&L speakers to create a phantom center channel.

[@Mistastylz]

You have ease my mind, I just got into home theater. My left and right speakers are Sony’s SS-MB150H bookshelf. I just bought a Definitive Technology 100 Series Center channel now my system sounds great everything blends in well. Thanks for this video!

[@667hodge]

4- channel quadrophonic recordings started in the 1970's,but never really caught on.There are a few artists who've recorded in 5.1 DTS/DVS,Steven Wilson, Pink Floyd, and Nirvana

[@jonesdude25]

Currently running a 4.1 setup with Kef R3's as Front L/R and Jamo S803's as Surround L/R, no center, sounds amazing

[@pastaman6099]

I simply have no space under my TV for a high quality center channel unless it's hight is less than 3", and over the TV is not an option bc of height channels. My front L/R speakers are awesome Klipsch r-610f's so phantom center is the way to go. And don't downplay the importance of surround channels. It's called surround sound for a reason, so I'm looking to upgrade them next. Especially for Transformers, they are very underrated.

[@NautiOG]

Bought a Bic Accoustech’s listed above after having this conversation with you a few months back. My living room is long so my previous center wasn’t doing the job. I’ve never been happier with a speaker purchase. Dialogue is clear and precise, bonus points because my receiver no longer needs to be pushed into overdrive. Well worth $199

[@dannykl6883]

I have Dali Epicon 6 left and right and the matching Vokal Centre. Even tho the Vokal has the same drive units as the floor standing 6’s it doesn’t sound as good, smaller cabinet and it’s placed low under the tv but pointing up 15 degrees towards the listening position... best case scenario is three identical speakers for LCR it’s a shame that most people can’t accommodate it.

[@jaredhylton6591]

My center is Paradigm Signature C5 v2, a 3 foot wide, 3.5 way with 2 7" dedicated bass woofers, 2 7" mid/bass, a 4.5" mid and a 1" beryllium tweeter. I definitely think I have enough center channel to match my customized Paradigm Studio 100 v5 upgraded to Signature v2 tweeters and mids. I would clearly be in the center not needed camp as my fronts are high end and I don't often have severely off axis listeners. However, that monster center just looks so good, so I keep it around.

[@jaredhylton6591]

I have now converted to phantom center and haven't looked back. I kept trying it out and as good as the Paradigm C5 was, I just kept realizing that it simply sounded better without a center. I simply have no idea why more people don't skip the center channel. Maybe some other brand speakers lack the rock solid center image of Paradigm speakers. I had always heard that a phantom center was bad if you are sitting far off center, but as long as you are a good distance away from the speakers this really becomes a non issue, at least with my speakers. The only time that I could see an issue would be off center near field listening. This is even ignoring budget, once budget is added it is an absolute no brainer. Putting it in Paradigm terms, if you had $2k to spend on your LCR you could grab a pair of Studio 100 v4 and a CC690 v4 center and have great sound, or you could save a bit of money and have a pair of Studio 100 v5 serving as the full LCR with phantom center. In my opinion the 100 v5 will easily beat the v4 LCR. What if money is no object, should you grab that matching CC690 v5? I say pass as you are adding money to increase clutter and in most situations downgrading your overall sound.

[@deankim6687]

I would rather put more money into the L and R and create a phantom center. Center channel’s upside is better off axis seating sound, but there are downside, like having so much of the sound managed by a smaller speaker, having to have it sit below or above the tv usually, having to timbre match, having the set the tweeter of the L C R at the same height.

[@earthworm85]

I ordered the Ultra Center and the ultra bookshelves. I forgot there was the Prime Pinnacles. Are the ultra bookshelves good enough... Or is the best set up be, The ultra center and 2 pinnacles or Ultra Center and 2 ultra bookshelves. Appreciate the info =)

[@TheSongtubes]

Love the spaceship art on the wall. Can you share the link on where to get it please.

[@xvader123123]

Z! This is the EXACT video I was looking for!! You have filled a hole in my heart! Would you include a Kef LS50 on that center list? I have a pair and was looking to match for the center. Aloha from Hawaii!

[@marcosvictor4935]

I'm not Zeos, but if you can place a LS50 on the center of you Home Theater, then By all means, go on about it! It's a concentric speaker so it's as far as a point source goes, making it great for center channel, and you can't match better to your sides than to have the exact same speaker on the center. In fact, really big, really expensive h ome theaters do the same, they have something like thrree Klipsch La Scalas or Klipsch Horns or BIG JBLs behind the screen as front-sides and center, so they are matching and also at the same height.

[@BradleyAshley]

@@marcosvictor4935 👍 And it's the exact same speaker, perfect pick.

[@ZReviews]

I fill lots of holes. In more places than hearts. And YES. I can add the LS50 if you can find it sold Singularly.

[@bynahelemaal]

I don’t understand why left and right do so “little” when using a center! I feel like center should pick up mainly voices in the center of the screen and highlight that voice clearly and without low end bass... and if a person is on the left, then the left and center should pick that up! Low end should only kick in when there’s like a car driving from left to right! Makes no sense that the front stage is mainly a center!

[@GN-ri8ui]

Center is supposed to be located directly under the view area or if you have an audio transparent projector screen, behind it. In the encoding of surround sound, everything that comes from the screen is coded for the center. Why is that? Simple. Point source projection. Playing sounds from the left and right speakers widens the sound stage to greater than the view area giving you weird object placement. When the guy gets kicked in the face in the middle of the screen and it sounds like he got kicked in the middle of your room you lose spacial recognition and it eliminates immersion.

[@ZReviews]

It is all up to the people mixing the movie/show whatever. Some receivers can blend the channels in a way that seems to better utilize all channels but that is a band-aid.

[@ZReviews]

Alternatively. Japanese Surround sound mixes like on Anime such as Evangelion Movies or Psycho Pass use ABSURD positional audio in the rear and stretch the .1 sub to its limits. I feel like all other media pulls its punches.

[@bynahelemaal]

Z Reviews you’d think with all these huge blockbusters like mission impossible, fast franchise and the marvel movies for example, they’d do more positional audio engineering stuff... especially with cruise being an audiophile himself and the marvel movies chock-full of explosion/fighting scenes! Like if you were to divide a screen into 3 vertical rectangular boxes, I’d like the center to mainly focus on the voices in middle one and, when needed, to share the side boxes with the left or right speaker when needed. For example, if a person is standing more towards the left side, I’d like it to be like 60% left speaker and 40% center, so the sound gets pulled to the left, instead of the middle. Whenever I watch movies with a center, it’s always so noticeable that there’s a center in use, almost like a sub that’s not ‘dialed’ in. When I watch in 2.1 or full surround, but without a center, it somehow feels way more realistic! Then again, I’ve never experienced a $800+ center speaker setup xD

[@ryanr6240]

What if you put 3 center channels on the stand under your tv?

[@sparsheditx]

So much passion of center channel

[@warpathh]

Surround X.X.X first number is # of surround speakers, second set of numbers is # of subs, third set of numbers is # of Atmos speakers.

[@TWB1981]

What is the Keyboad with the big pad on the side you are using in this video? Is the pad part of it?

[@jasonscarlett8868]

Great review you keep it real💯 I'm new to the home theater game and learning thanks for all your wisdom👍🏽🇨🇦🔊

[@jewishspacelaser]

Have you tested the Sound Labs center channel? If so, what do you think of it?

[@ghers]

I’m very happy with my Center Klipsch RP404c.. huge difference

[@Pabula]

I would love to see you review Ascend Acoustics Sierra Horizon to see how you like it.

[@larrypilgrim12]

I use extended stereo and all my svs speakers produce quality sound. I listen to music more than movies. I run a 5.2.4 configuration for my system and music on extended stereo is awesome! I have all svs

[@Brian.M]

So if I'm looking to spend say $4K on my front speakers and I have a small seating area (pretty much just me). I should just skip the center and put %100 into the left and right? I already have 2 nice subs. Room is 20ft x 20ft. With just me in the center. And I do %100 movies, not much music. What speakers should I buy?

[@filippiasec]

Klipsch heresy may be cool cause they are very effective thus will produce a lot of sound.

[@m4nc1n1]

I get your point, and I have done both, but you always need a center because everybody watches TV with somebody. Bigger better center and bigger better sub are absolutely true but I would stay in the same model family as the fronts. If you cant get all SVS then get all Elac or something else. Keeping the tone all the way around does make a difference especially across the front stage. That being said, if you don't have a center don't let that stop you, and if your speakers do not match don't let that stop you either. At the end of the day just do an HT anyway you can! lol

[@davidcarapellucci5191]

Did you already sell that svs ultra centre? Just picked up the bookshelves and will either run phantom or with my klipsch Vic-25 until I can pick up the ultra centre.

[@HungryEatNow]

I usually watch movies alone phantom center channel is amazing. And I learnt it from you a long time back

[@I86282]

The real question then. Is if you spent all that money on a left and right channel. Would it not make more sense to run it in 4.1 or 4.0 channel. Instead of 7.1 or 7.0 ?

[@drumandbassob0007]

for me i never use a center channel i run 4.1 just tell the decoder i have no center , plus i have acoustic treatment at the 1st refection points , dont understand why people have a center theres no need

[@ZReviews]

Again, Depends on who is sitting where. And how much movies are involved.

[@seanearnest8350]

You need to take a look at the off axis sound from the speakers!!!!

[@D.L.W.]

My sound system consists of 2 SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers, an SVS Ultra Center speaker, 2 SVS Ultra Surround speakers, 6 SVS Prime Elevation speakers (4 ceiling mounted for Dolby Atmos and 2 mounted on the rear wall for the rear channels) and 2 SVS SB-3000 Subwoofers. The system is powered by a Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A8A 11 channel AVR and connected to a Panamax M5400-PM.

[@chili4x4]

love this review!.. made me smile... makes me not too worried that I can't afford the system I really want... but I think I can build a 2nd best now that I have some confidence!

[@joshuaholder6818]

Turn in center spread in receiver?

[@wadehoffstetter5576]

I have a enormous klipsch RC-64II center channel (1.75” titanium compression tweeter) with my klipsch RP 8000Fs (1” titanium dome tweeter) for my front sound stage and it sounds incredible.

[@scottnorris9079]

I got the version 3 and ya... I don’t think he’s thinking of centers the size of many towers out there lol... more the the 99% of them the size of his SVS

[@decaf77]

Hi Wade and Scott! I just bought the RC64iii. If you don’t mind, can you tell me what you’re powering it with?

[@bendeco]

Great organic tutorial. Subbed.

[@chrisd6591]

What about hooking up multiple speakers at the center channel location? Like say 2 ultra bookshelf's or 2 ultra svs centers?

[@crazydwarfer]

Checked the list of centers. What are your thoughts on the Monoprice Monolith THX 365C for a budget one, and on the Revel C426BE for a high end? Thanks.

[@Mihajil]

Zeos ok if i get a pair of the ohm walsh 2000 will i need a center ? My room is 13ft long 10ft wide 7ft ceiling also its treated what do you think?

[@dBsdecibels]

A curve ball Mr. Z: The JBL 520c is a center channel you recommend in the description. Many complain though that it's not very good compared to its matching 570/80/90's. You say that the center doesn't have to match, but admit that it's nice if it does. Being that JBL doesn't offer a better matching center, what are good options which work well with the 570/80/90s?

[@msoles30]

What are using to sit the center channel on

[@jimmy2shoes75]

Hey Zeos, You have made a video similar to this before on to center or not and how to budget a home theater setup, Which I direct any-one I know to watch when starting off, it's pure gold. For me, I took the advice and went for the RP600m with a RP504c center(monster of a center channel), the rest of the speaker are normal, will do for effects. So for Music it's the Rp600m And movies and other content I go 3.2 or the full hog surround 2xSB2000s as well BTW Great Video as always bud

[@Guitar7885]

Where's the HSU CCB-8 for the Center Channel list? Thought that was the Center Channel to "Rule them All".

[@ZReviews]

FFF. I remember that now. Its been years.

[@Guitar7885]

@@ZReviews Haha, had to bring it up when I didn't see it on the list cause my brother got it for his home theater setup after I showed him your video on it. lol. He loves it, sounds incredible.

[@Quietprofessional1]

I have a 7.2 system and I have tried the Dolby surround thing and I always end up going to all stereo for everything I watch TV and 7.2 but I keep it on all surround or all speakers actually all channel stereo I'm not sure why I do that that's just what I do.

[@TheMasonkerr]

5:41, nice archer reference

[@JPWinters]

You are right on. Some people don't get it in the comments, perhaps they've never had large high quality L/R towers. Either a full-size matching center (with something better than a basic MTM horizontal design which has problems), a matching 3rd tower or bookshelf, or none at all. In this case, the SVS bookshelf + SVS large well designed center = good.

[@RealWitblitz]

Your neighbours must love you unconditionally ;)

[@ZReviews]

My neighbors are businesses. And they are not in after 6 or when Covid exists.

[@aceofspades6667]

dude his neighbor is that smoking hot eastern block gal.

[@edmund2j]

Without the center channel subwoofer, the center channel speaker is tiny. Now it's enveloping. Awesome sound even with a cheapo center speaker.

[@garyausten5939]

If I eventually relace my LCR and can't afford to do it all at once, is it necessary to match brands of the center with L/R? My LCR, heights, and one of my subs are Klipsch RP-series and the rest is Polk (satellites and sub). 7.2.4 system.

[@linh811]

phantom center FTW !!! unless LCR is the exact same drivers, timbre will be off

[@Sky1]

I have a Center Wide mode on my Denon that seems to extend the stage