Toaks Titanium Twig Stove Vs Optimus Svea 123...I was Surprised By The Results!

[@turtlewolfpack6061]

I love my Firebox Nano Steel stoves, I am too cheap to splurge for the titanium version but the ability to use wood, alcohol (with the Trangia burner) or solid fuel is pretty awesome and it packs flat. Hello from North Central Alberta!

[@Back40Bushcraft]

I'd love to check out the Gen 2 5 inch someday, but I'm not one to pick up extra stuff, unless they pop up for a great deal!

[@Ces1um]

I also have the firebox nano in stainless steel- also too cheap to splurge on the titanium one. That being said, I don't love it. the trangia burns through more fuel when I use it in the nano because it doesn't work well as a windscreen. When using Esbit in it, it's the same story. I need more Esbit to accomplish a boil. I tried burning charcoal in it to bbq but it just didn't output enough heat to sear my pork chop. Works great with wood but you have to stay on top of it and feed it. I kinda find it's a jack of all trades but a master of none. It's versatile but it just needs more fuel to accomplish anything.

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Master of none, sounds like me, lol!

[@markmueller5508]

Great video. Different tools for different applications. You didn’t try to convince everyone that you are right and that they are wrong. Use what you like, but get out there and enjoy without trying to prove anything. Thanks

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Hey, thanks, Mark, I appreciate the kind words! And, although I am almost always right, this one was done in the name of science, lol 😉

[@starlingblack814]

I have both stoves, but usually only take the Toaks with a backup alcohol stove for when the environment is wet. Used it from Arizona, through Canada and Alaska and has not failed me. Thanks for the video and comparison.

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Hey, that's cool, appreciate the feedback! One of these days I'll have to step into the field of alcohol stoves, but I'm still a naptha fan at heart, haha!

[@KerryHiggins-p6i]

Great video. I have a new Bushbuddy twig stove so must try it against my Svea123R. A small insulating pad works well under S ea in snow. Kerry from Calgary.

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Man, I'd love to try one of those Bushbuddy stoves...one day! Say hello to Cowtown for me, Kerry!

[@kevincooper8666]

The svea excells above the tree line it's nickname is the mountaineer where there are no twigs and butane burns badly the svea will work well as always horses for courses

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Wish I had a nickname like that! It really is hard to beat the reliability and simplicity of the SVEA 123...I appreciate the comment, thank you!

[@timjohanson1691]

That's a great meal right there!!!

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Stuffin' my belly with the good stuff!

[@information5307]

Did you add more wood when you cook the meal? It is surprising that the wood you put in the stove at the beginning was enough to have the water boiled and the meal cooked.

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Oh, yes, it's necessary to keep adding wood if you plan on doing more than boil a pot of water. That said, not much additional wood is required to just boil water, especially if you set the first pieces in there properly.

[@mervmartin2112]

For the size wood you're splitting, chuck a slotted screwdriver in your drill press put the wood on the table, and split with that. Before you go camping, of course. :-D I used to carry 1/8" x 3 fatwood split like that.

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Well, I've certainly never heard that trick before, if only I had a drill press!

[@mervmartin2112]

@@Back40Bushcraft Lol. That can be a problem. :-D But you can see the mechanism used, it's really just a lever. It makes very packable fire starters and it keeps blades away from your fingers. (which are nice to have)

[@clintbaird4891]

nice comparison, thank you.

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Thanks, Clint, I appreciate the comment!

[@scottrider7271]

Nice weather...

[@Back40Bushcraft]

@@scottrider7271 a short reprieve from days of atmospheric rivers!

[@bdemerstube]

Note. The dial on your watch is to time depth time, not how much air you have. It’s about avoiding the bends.

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Hey, that's news to me, thanks for the input, bdemerstube

[@carlstroud1072]

Toakes sounds like a winner, hate to carry fuel cause it's flammable and it leaks and wood is available just about everywhere 😊

[@Back40Bushcraft]

That's exactly right, isn't it? I will sometimes take a small block of seasoned wood with me when it's wet weather, just to assist getting the wetter wood to burn...works like a charm!

[@martinerhard8447]

Different stoves with different strengths. I got both but use the Svea quite a lot more. But my Svea is modded and I use it with flux pots and you don’t want all the soot from a wood stove in the flux

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Ahh, I see. Yes, my old thrift store pots don't really mind whatever nasty business I do with them!

[@mel63613]

When I had my Svea stove, I wouldn't even consider a twig stove. Just fill, light, and cook!

[@Back40Bushcraft]

It's true, the SVEA is so reliable, it's a total no-brainer to bring it into the field for use. We had an extended fire ban this year, so the SVEA was the only cooker we had going!

[@Funkteon]

Whenever I see people using cast iron and stainless steel and titanium cookware, I always cringe at the way food sticks to it unless you use copious amounts of oil, which is yet more weight in your backpack... I converted to using a Jetboil skillet a couple of years ago along with my non-PFOA Teflon-coated GSI Pinnacle Soloist, and since then, have never had to scrub anything clean as the food/sauce just drips right off the surface.

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Fair enough, although my preference is to always cook over the fire, so I need to have pots and pans that can handle both fire and stove... appreciate your input!

[@dankeen9985]

Um, by the time you process and light the wood, I’m eating with the svea

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Haha, yes, of course, and you wouldn't get any smoke in your face either, but what fun is that?!

[@Chainsaw2373]

If you count total prep time and startup time the SVEA 123 wins every time. I live in a place without many trees or thick growth, just a lot of grass and weeds that isn’t good enough fuel for cooking so I have the SVEA. When hunting in areas with forests I will use wood unless there is a burn ban in place and then you will have to use a gas fuel stove just like you explained in your excellent video with the exception of your biased objectively and unfair opinion.

[@Back40Bushcraft]

Haha, thanks for the comment, Chainsaw, and yes, busted...I was being biased about my twig stove! In fact, I went out Camping a couple nights ago, and the first thing I popped out was the SVEA, because I didn't want to scrounge for twigs! Thanks for the comment ~

[@Chainsaw2373]

@@Back40Bushcraft Thank you for being a good sport and having a sense of humor. I will say again that this was a very informative video that is well done and I learned lots about the wood stove. I will be looking forward to watching more of your videos. 👍🏻