Console Vs. PC Gaming

[@comepletely]

Not even mentioning the versatility of activities you can do on a pc aside from gaming

[@ToastyBros]

For sure!

[@AubDenashi]

Modding is probably the biggest

[@2012istheLastyearofgenZ]

​@@ToastyBros the ps5 pro

[@Aisinn]

Exactly bro! you could code, 3D model, make music, and do many more things. Consoles are cool but pc just has everything you need.

[@MinksBetter]

Emulating,modding, multitasking, and not having to pay a subscription to do all of this lol

[@onepieceofpie9311]

PC for control Console for simplicity

[@pwrdbythefro2846]

the greatest summary I have ever read

[@BrianWood74]

I can stand by that.

[@QuicklyFreeze]

ps5 is superior

[@504Trey]

PC for freedom Console for prison

[@onepieceofpie9311]

@@504Trey you’re free to mod and look at code oh wow😒 driving a KIA doesn’t feel like prison because it’s not a Ferrari. Just does the same shit at different speeds.

[@dovakeen1179]

No, steam just built an empire on discounts and good service and that is why Gabe is the patron saint of gaming

[@Ray-i6r]

Steam does have lots of discounts but you still don't technically own any game you purchase

[@Ryujihh]

Because owning games physically has so much more benefits, like... Not having to download them and... Yeah thats about it

[@ThePenguinsKing]

@@Ryujihh the advantage is that they can’t be taken away. You don’t need an internet connection to play with no need to set up an offline mode.

[@Kumire_921]

Steam prices are garbage

[@BrandonLuna-ll3hw]

@@Ryujihhhuge advantage especially if you like to travel. Though as long as you aren’t playing a strictly online only game, you can still play games offline on steam. It’s more of the what if aspect. Dudes getting old and no telling which direction steam could take 5 years from now if he was to pass away. If the website shuts down what if the millions of dollars that has been spent on that platform? My opinion is that is highly unlikely. But many benefits to owning the game or having an offline launcher to install what ever game you’re trying to install.

[@batman-rebirth5217]

And with pc you don’t have to pay to play online games

[@ToastyBros]

very true

[@Cinarbayramic]

I can't imagine paying a subscription just to play multiplayer games

[@brother7238]

​@@Cinarbayramicthe main reason i will never buy console

[@batman-rebirth5217]

@X-tremeGaming-Hunter and an additional 120$ per year to just play online

[@Nyx_png_]

@X-tremeGaming-Hunter and you can easily make a more capable pc for that price, actually what was sony thinking

[@Azii-jp8yl]

Imma end the argument with one word *Piracy*

[@BiggestChungus21]

This is kind of a lost art now. And thank god it is. Because pf sales and games really pushing that games as a service type model.

[@51LVERFANG]

@@BiggestChungus21Lost art? Boy you are so wrong. I know hella of a lot of people still doing it.

[@tanisegsge4586]

Bruh lost art what do u mean I have more 10 cracked aaa games and yes the latest ones with update but I don't feel sad

[@gavinchilders9677]

In the positive or negative connotation for instance are you worried about getting hacked or are you saying your able to watch ,play ,or otherwise view content that normally sits behind a pay wall like movies,anime,and games.

[@ume-f5j]

@@BiggestChungus21objectively not the case for single player games, so GaaS doesn’t apply there.

[@FadedInsight]

High refreshrate on a console is just borderline untrue.

[@iamhugry]

120hz is max at 4k upscale not native

[@bubbakushii]

Ya pc can do higher refresh rate but the cost to do it at like 1440 or 4k compared to what the series x can do is a lot diff

[@vxhwpwpekfjfldod3761]

Not as many people would even move to pc if it wasn't for so few games that run at 120 fps on console. Most devs target 60 fps for "performance" mode instead of 120 fps on consoles

[@Pr0ject2]

Console doesn't even do 120fps. I haven't played a game yet that actually hits that. More like 90fps. And they look absolutely dreadful for it. Blurry and washed out.

[@rafaelribeiro99]

@iamhugry and how many games does manage to run at 120fps? my guess is not even 10% of games can do it, and im being generous, most of them is 30 / 60fps. And even the ones that manage to do 120fps, will probably look blurry and ugly as hell

[@matthewmccourt3778]

Best perk to PC gaming: NOT PAYING TO PLAY ONLINE

[@ags4353]

Internet is not free 😂 you not paying for a subscription you mean

[@charles2183]

​@@ags4353You have to pay for your internet on top of a subscription just to play multiplayer in games you already potentially already paid for.

[@ThePr0_0149]

​@@ags4353same thing

[@darktaleswithdeshea]

This is a fact!

[@Z64bit]

​@@ags4353I mean you would still pay that on top of the subscription so what's your point?

[@Killerxanonymous]

Biggest advantage for pc : Fitgirl repacks😂

[@strifenx0117]

😂

[@CoolSock123]

Looking for this coment

[@Ilias_Goddess]

Hold my Nexus mods

[@thedealer799]

CODEX 🔥

[@Killerxanonymous]

@@Ilias_Goddess 🗿

[@ModernStoic208]

Hey man, you really do make some great points. But for me, I'm just happy with the convenience that consoles offer me. I can't stand the prices, though. I settled on the series S. It fills all my needs for the price. I honestly can't complain

[@generationxpvp]

Fair

[@onlyapawn4371]

And the PC gamer is like hmm this game looks good but with a new graphics card or more ram or with anti aliasing turned off or by reinstalling the game or reinstalling windows it might look a little bit better.

[@sakibc1787]

​@onlyapawn4371 lol so true

[@noya3361]

@onlyapawn4371 Perhaps, but I think most pc gamers are just people who have to buy a pc regardless for productivity.

[@caseycameron5370]

Yeah I love my little series s kbm 120 fps is plenty for me

[@haydenho154]

Who's watching this after the 700 dollar ps5 disc drive and stand sold separately

[@masterace9543]

I keep seeing people say in the comments, "Digital is the future " and "it comes with a stand just not the metal one" like sure thing bud still not worth the 700

[@haydenho154]

@@masterace9543 digital also means it'll be easier to do the "you'll own nothing and be happy"

[@unknownGoblin]

​@haydenho154 honestly you will outpay a pc every year 100€+ to play online is crazy

[@Rolkey]

@@unknownGoblinWho’s spending over 700 each year on PC hardware?

[@unknownGoblin]

@Rolkey noone, I'm saying if you build a 700$ pc you spend 700$ + games. However, on Playstation you pay 700$ + 120$ each year to play online and you pay for games. Not to mention that you mostly pay 70-80$ pr game on ps vs 40-55$ on pc from release.

[@quandevios]

Without forgetting emulations and cracks

[@Snovixity勒]

Dev mode

[@SageDucko]

Video editing, blender, game development. PC is the ultimate machine for gaming and etc.

[@parlor3115]

Dem cracks man. Especially smothering your face in the white stuff. High chef's kiss

[@zedtee420]

pirated software, games and movies/shows alone makes pc better imo

[@ricepatty5551]

@@Snovixity勒Xbox only, and vast majority of console gamers are PS5

[@Inf4mousKidGames]

That "I'm here for the bussy" shirt is wild

[@sanidhyadevgupta6452]

Bro really put 144hz in the console section 😂

[@FeelingPoyChina]

fr... 95% of the time not even 120 lmfao heck 50% of the time not even a stable 60fps

[@CyberdyneSystems435]

Clickbait’s trash

[@silvioantonio6952]

144hz or 4k. Never both at the same time 😂😂😂

[@kerkertrandov459]

Many games cant even run stable 60 fps on 4k and are locked at 30 fps. And 4k is not native it's upscaled from 1080p. In other words, it's all a lie. Playstation is the biggest scam ever.

[@alextheonewarrior]

​@silvioantonio6952 mine didn't even do over 60fps on 1080p on most games lmao

[@madsixvines4839]

With PC you don't have to trash the old one for a new game that has higher system requirement, you just need to change the component that's causing the problem

[@cehaem2]

Console games are designed to work on an entire generation.

[@misteryeen]

You can only work with a motherboard chipset so much before needing to replace that for use with newer/different CPU generation/brand if upgrading. Then you have to consider if so much use on a power supply denotes buying a new one, especially if you need more wattage than previously. Then you probably should get around to upgrading the RAM since it's slower and last gen at this point. Then ya obviously gotta drop a newer, probably more power hungry GPU in, unless you're rocking a flagship GPU from a few years back. Then you look at it and say: "nice, didn't have to replace my case, but damn I probably should anyway".

[@RainyFoxUwU]

​@@cehaem2LOL like Xbox and PlayStation haven't made games where half the content is missing because you need to upgrade. Ridiculous comment

[@cehaem2]

@@RainyFoxUwU Wtf are you talking about? If a game is made for a particular console you can play it on that platform.

[@thedarkemissary]

.... a component... that costs as much as a console.

[@LordBacon235-zu4os]

I think they serve 2 different purposes. PC is designed to be customisable and versatile, you can tailor the experience to your exact use case. a Console is simpler and just works with very little issues but the trade off is that console is more limited in terms of functionality.

[@christonchev9762]

y also remember that without PC's Consoles wouldn't exist and am including Nintendo here

[@KniveMikoto]

Having both as a gamer is a W.

[@norbertszekeres867]

Nah , having both is a waste of money , especialy now when is no exclusivs

[@cehaem2]

@@norbertszekeres867 There's plenty of exclusives. How many Ratchet and Clank games are there on PC? One - and the port isn't even that good.

[@Gooierostrich10]

Planning on getting a pc

[@CRIMSON-FLAME1]

​@Gooierostrich10 do it you won't regret it. I did it three months ago and I was a console gamer for a very long time. You might have to learn a few things but the pay off is completely worth it.

[@thatwage]

I don’t want to wait a year to play console exclusives. Which is why I have PS5, Switch, and PC

[@edwardcanez]

Quick resume is the thing I miss the most on pc

[@WingPlaysGames]

What’s that?

[@edwardcanez]

@@WingPlaysGames A save state for games. You just open the game without needing to load anything. It opens instantaneously to the point you left off

[@buffkangaroodog]

@@edwardcanezshame PS5 doesn’t have it either. It’s a seriously underrated feature. If Microsoft had a brain they’d release a modified version of windows that’s more Xbox-like in terms of making it more gaming-focused, couch-friendly, and adding stuff like quick resume. Might not sell insanely well, but people would buy it lol

[@grandam.]

Steam deck has it. Its A hybrid pc

[@eytbits]

We call that alt + tab

[@DerekJohn]

And then there’s me who just says “fuck it, both”

[@Boom_1713]

Pcs can also be used for other purposes

[@ToastyBros]

Exactly!

[@Boom_1713]

@@ToastyBros damn didn't expect a response from y'all made my day

[@ToastyBros]

@@Boom_1713 We do our best to respond, sometimes it's hard to keep up!

[@Boom_1713]

​@@ToastyBrosthanks again

[@QuicklyFreeze]

​@@Boom_1713that's not a valid comparison because ps5 and xbox are only used for gaming bruh

[@AaronWOfficial]

People always forget the biggest advantage of PC. You can turn off motion blur, film grain, vignette and chromatic abberation. Even if the game has no option to do it, you can just turn it off in the .ini files or use mods to do it.

[@AaronWOfficial]

@BrianPrice-f4d people who want better picture clarity care

[@sakibc1787]

How about people don't care about that and just play the damn game

[@AaronWOfficial]

@@sakibc1787 I care, motion blur, film grain, vignette and chromatic abberation is dog shit. I don't want my game to look like dog shit while I am playing it XD

[@canman87]

​@@sakibc1787A lot of people care. That's why those are typically options in the graphics settings so that people can customize their im-game experience the way that best suits them.

[@HacksOffender]

youre the best for sharing this

[@AzureLupine]

Man, I just don't want to deal with all the driver bullshit. With all the games I play being cross platform anyway, it doesn't even matter.

[@christonchev9762]

it takes u 2-5 mins depends on the update and its like Shaders cause u know u have to wait for those

[@psionx1]

another big advantage is that your not forced to buy the whole device at once. take your time and hunt for deals on parts. when you have a good setup you can decimate a console with just a GPU upgrade. note timing is important. GPUs have a 2 year release cycle buy a flagship card near end of it and you could easily be stuck with a hot potato.

[@jamestaylor9887]

Not really. A high end GPU may lose about half its resale value shortly after you buy it because the new GPU generation drops, but even my 6900xt has between a $450-550 resale value. It also still performs exceptionally well in most titles. Due to fsr and dlss even the lower end gpus are keeping their resell value as they can take advantage of upscaling.

[@JVPlayz96]

You can take your time to save up but it depends on whether the upgrade you are making is a generational one or not. You may have to buy a CPU along with that GPU to avoid bottlenecking if upgrading. Depending on the generation of the CPU, you may need to buy a whole new MOBO cause you're now buying the CPU to avoid bottlenecking and if the old cooler you have is not compatible with the new CPU/MOBO you may even need to buy a whole new cooler or a bracket that can make the cooler compatible with the new CPU/MOBO. Also new RAM as well due to new generation MOBO/CPU. Also if you don't have a PSU that has enough power to support the GPU you may have to buy a new PSU as well. So basically a whole new build besides the SSD/HDD unless you plan on keeping your old rig and building a whole new one, you'll have to buy one of those at the very least too.

[@lyaneris]

​@@JVPlayz96 Or you plan for that, get a psu with more power than you need and a good cpu, while bottlenecking your gpu for a year or so and then switch to a great setup :) Once you get a good setup, you don't really need to upgrade for 5-6 years. I bought my PC with a 1080 and an i7-7700k in 2018 and I'm only now getting to the point I'm thinking about upgrading, while still playing most games at high-ultra. It would have taken longer if I had a 1080 ti, but I'm really feeling the missing vram 😅

[@Corporate101-mk6ib]

Yea majority of people don’t have time or desire to do that. If they made pcs at the same price point without all the extra junk I would get it. I don’t want internet explorer, I don’t want Microsoft. Which means I don’t want to mess with all that garbage. I want to play games. Period. Sony gives me that simplicity

[@Disconnect350]

How is that an advantage??? I build my PC and looking for parts was a nightmare. Making sure the parts have good reviews from users, decent price, etc. it was a terrible, stressful experience. You PC gamers have weird way of thinking.

[@AllieRX]

You also fail to mention that PC has mods, emulators, and can be used for a lot of non-gaming features like video editing and graphic design.

[@cehaem2]

How many people use their PCs for V editing of graphic design? Emails, general browsing and office stuff? I have a 12y old laptop for that.

[@geralt36]

​@@cehaem2 a lot of people do. I use mine for coding and also mod my games. And not to mention it's nice to be able to have a multi monitor setup on PC to be able multitask. It's true though a gaming capable PC costs a lot more than consoles.

[@cehaem2]

@@geralt36 What is "a lot of people"? Is there any research on that?

[@Corporate101-mk6ib]

@@geralt36your not talking to the people with an hour to relax and game every other night. Or young kids. Of course Steve from IT would rather a pc so he could do his wizard thing 🙄

[@bababoey.]

​@geralt36 You can build a PC with better performance for around the same cost as a console. It's not really that much more expensive.

[@BitcoinTakeover]

Physical console games are more collectible, though. You don’t just buy access to software, you own a disc or memory card that includes the full game (usually).

[@mgord9518]

I can install digital games onto an SD card. I now magically own them in the same way a console user does

[@emiliosilva1477]

But even then you surly have to install something else once you put that disk in. I have more security with my steam library than any console can offer me

[@ExtraordinaryFate]

@@emiliosilva1477 That’s crazy saying that when Steam games are all licenses that be taken from you for any reason Valve wishes. You actually do own disks, but certain games like COD do make it so you can’t play without an update so there’s that.

[@emiliosilva1477]

@@ExtraordinaryFate valve has to include that for legal reasons but I don’t have a shadow of a doubt that valve themselves will never revoke a game license willingly, it’s solely up to the developer. Like the case involving the crew by Ubisoft

[@Mutzukii]

For Gaming Hands down The Biggest Thing we have is Modding games be it Overhauls or Qol Mods the list goes on and on

[@todaysdesperadohatesavocad7109]

I disagree. Modding is nice, but so is being able to play games from twenty five years ago on the hardware we have now. A well as the insane sales we get multiple times a year. Not to mention Fitgirl Repacks, where we can play cracked games saving us a fortune and allowing us to play many more titles per year without hurting us financially. We also don't pay a premium for multiplayer, which costs a minimum of $80 up front for a year and with the average console lasting five years that's $400 on top of the $500 they spent on the console... before games.

[@lightningrose3654]

That's not the W you think it is.

[@crinos7532]

Mods end of discussion, fans keep so many games running solely due to the work they put in to make it a better experience overall

[@Disconnect350]

Nope. Butchering games with mods isn't a better experience.

[@adity-m2g]

​@@Disconnect350You are just jealous you can't mod on console also main reason why GTA and Bethesda games are still popular because of mods so that's actually opposite of butchering

[@canman87]

​@@Disconnect350Mods include things like implementing public servers to keep multiplayer games going after official servers have long since shut down. That's been a thing for 20 years, at least.

[@whiviumphosphorus]

You can also edit videos and photos, you can run multiple tasks and have multiple monitors. You can emulate. You have complete and utter control of your setup, you can go into the bios and update ram and overclock stuff. There's so much you can do! Oh don't forget ultrawide and you can upgrade your parts any time in the future

[@thatonekid8794]

Not to mention the fact that you don’t have to pay a subscription to play online

[@Dan-cm8df]

PSN absolutely destroys PC online. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ThePr0_0149]

​@@Dan-cm8dfhow? Pc online is litteraly free🤣

[@thelastemperor69]

@@ThePr0_0149the only downside is the cheaters

[@ThePr0_0149]

@@thelastemperor69 they are getting banned anyway,so who cares? (You are saying it,like there aren't any cheaters when you use a console)

[@thelastemperor69]

@@ThePr0_0149 it’s far worse on pc, I bet you know that too. Console cheaters are using modded controllers, not full blown hacks.

[@Cyndarion0ne]

The implication that a console is "close" when I still can't overclock it, change out the memory safely without harming the device, or add more than 5TB without making it unstable, is not in fact "closer" to PC. Its still about as far as its always been. Lets look at the PS5 pro. It has: 2tb of memory rated around 7200mbps transfer speed - 4k 120hz, HDMI 2.1 out support (supersampled from 1440p usually) - Expandable up to 5TB m.2 storage. - CPU clocked to 16 threads @ 3.5 Ghz (3.7 turbo boost avg) - No memory bus expansion slots or PCIE slots - no dedicated DAC in its sound card for higher audio processing - 16GB of GDR6 VRAM at 440gb speeds - wifi 6/7 and costs $499-799 Lets look at my pc now! Mind you its 5 years old almost. It has: - 8TB of memory and room for about 3 more hard drives and 1 more SATA/ SSD and 1 m.2, so in theory, 500+ TB is available to place. - Expandable power supply and memory, 4k60 out, 90hz refresh rate, and choices to expand that - CPU clocked at 8 cores/16 threads @ 4.41 Ghz (4.6 Turbo with a tower cooler + 4 fans vs a consoles 1 or 2 fans and no wider cooler) - Plenty of room for extra crap - Dedicated sound card, dedicated audio DAC, and optical/digital audio and video in/out, plus DP and HDMI 2.0 - 6x USB v3.0 slots and 2x USB-C thunderbolt ports (consoles have neither or 1 of each nowadays) - 24GB of GDR5 memory vs the pros 16GB of GDR6 VRAM My pc cost me $550 not including monitor and speakers. Tell me again how those are close? I'll wait. Its like 60% of the way there vs PC. Close and almost only count in horseshoe and throwing grenades.

[@funnyfatseals545]

PCs are way cheaper than consoles if you know what the hell you're doing. I once demonstrated how easy a good PC is to make by showing my friends a mockup PC made from ebay parts. The specs were: A dell optiplex 9020 base PC which had a 3.5 GHz processor, 8 gb of ram, and a 500 gb drive already in the PC. An rtx 2060 An extra 16 gb of ram And a 1 tb SSD The PC cost less than $350 including shipping Think about that $170 you saved plus the online service. Two AAA games and a few indie titles and, depending upon how long you play online, up to $500 more! Additionally, you can upgrade it and sell the old parts instead of buying a new console.

[@Cyndarion0ne]

@@funnyfatseals545 Plus the whole point of the video is missed when you establish the cost issue; a console now is only as powerful as the main desktop market was 5 years ago. Sure its a big leap from the PS1 era being 4x weaker but its still 75% of the power of a home PC at the same price point, which is promising, but not equitable.

[@spiderman3309]

Great explaination! what was the monitor and speakers cost tho?

[@steveqi9309]

I like to know where you got a GPU with 24 GB of vram while still keeping your build at $500, all while having 8 terabytes of storage. Because right now this sounds like cap.

[@cehaem2]

Comparing pure numbers on PC hardware vs console is BS. Console soft is optimised for a particular setup while on PC it needs to work wth pretty much everything. Also, your Windows will also use tons of resources, the way the system funnels data through the kernel into (V)Ram is different and way more efficient on consoles.

[@Egdisobgdoslw]

your tshirt in the first part is absolute cinema

[@kreeperskid]

My biggest reason for being on PC for the last 6 years is that I *only* need a PC. On console, if I wanted to play that one specific PS3 era game, I had to bust out the PS3. You have to hold onto your old consoles if you want to keep playing them. Steam holds all of your games no matter what hardware you have, and while there might be some issues on very old games, you can absolutely still make them work. Not to mention things like emulation for other consoles. When you're on PC, all you need is a PC. On console, you have to have more than just that one console to do the same stuff.

[@spiderman3309]

May i know what kinda PC do you have? I'm currently at a point where to choose which one should i buy console or Pc. But i like your siding with pc and now i want to know the type you have.

[@kreeperskid]

​@@spiderman3309 ​ @spiderman3309 Well, I have two (This actually goes into another reason I prefer PC that I'll get into in a minute). My "original" PC hardware is an i7-8700, 2070 Super, and 32gb 2666MHz DDR4 memory. My "new" PC is an i7-12700k, 3080 Ti, and 32gb 6000MHz DDR5 memory (You should go for 32gb if you're using DDR5, it can actually be more cost effective than 16gb. If you're using DDR4, you probably won't need 32gb, but for what I do, I need it.) Originally, I had just swapped my 2070 Super for a 3080 Ti, then a few months later I bought new memory, motherboard, and CPU. I was able to then put the "original" PC back together in a new case, and it became my living room PC. I wanted to specify the two different PCs because it's something that's worth pointing out. Your parts will never be obsolete. They will always have a purpose. People who upgraded from PS4 to PS5 probably never touch that console again, because it's not getting the newest games. Don't even get me started on PS3s going to landfills. But with PC, my "old" PC hardware still works just as well as it did before the upgrade. While my biggest reason for PC gaming is that my new hardware can still play my old games, my old hardware can still play my new games as well. Eventually, way down the road when I upgrade my 12700k and 3080 Ti, this PC will be the new living room PC, and my 8700 and 2070 Super might go to my niece, or I might turn it into a server for local cloud storage. I'm down to answer more questions if you have any. I've spent a lot of time figuring out what I like more about each platform lol

[@kreeperskid]

@@spiderman3309 Oh not to mention that you get to keep your game libraries across different kinds of PCs. Laptops, Steam Decks, etc. If you had a console and then decided to buy a gaming laptop or a Steam Deck for portability, you'd have to buy a whole new library of games.

[@spiderman3309]

@@kreeperskid dude, Thank you so much for this detailed response; you explained everything excellently. Of course, the main reason I wanted the PC is that I can play older games without replacing the pc, and I was pleased to hear that the new hardware can run those games. That’s exactly what I wanted. I’m really satisfied with your answer. I just want to ask you the total cost for the whole process from the pc to the building & upgrade? Also How often does it need to be upgraded, and what are the expected costs for each upgrade? Can one upgrade run almost every game perfectly, or at least most of them? Lastly, is there a team that knows what each game needs to run perfectly, where you can just specify the type of game or its name and they do the job for you? Or do you need to do it yourself and buy each part of the upgrade individually? I'm asking this because I'm not familiar with it and can't figure out which upgrade parts I should buy. So it would be nice and easier if a team could do it for me for a fee. Thank you once again.

[@kreeperskid]

@@spiderman3309 Oh and I forgot to say, your last question about how to know what you need for a game to run; At the bottom of every game on steam, it lists out the hardware requirements. It lists the specs you need for minimum graphics settings, and also what they actually recommend you have.

[@Muahaha651]

Nothing will beat retro gaming and having the physical games from that era

[@Anvizity]

Ayyy was happy to see grim dawn great game

[@StinkyX6ALT]

that shirt is crazy

[@stephengamble4874]

Ong

[@jeffmyname7277]

The funny part is people keep hoping consoles will catch up to pc, yet they forget the price is going to catch up just as quick. Consoles were supposed to be the cheap alt to pcs but let’s ruin that and make the performance and price match prebuilt pcs. Smh

[@The_apprentice_of_revan]

They are still much better P2P than any PC that exists, it's still gonna be a hot minute before they have no advantage over PC's since the only advantage they really have is price, and that's not going anywhere

[@jeffmyname7277]

@@The_apprentice_of_revan You’re smoked it’s already happening. You can get an amazing prebuilt for 700$ and you could build yourself an even better pc for that much. Pc’s have access to thousands more games, they have the ability to be dual monitor, and the list goes on and on. Consoles aren’t bad but they aren’t supposed to be 700$ they are like I said “the cheap alternative to pc’s” but you guys wanna ruin that by hyping up a 700$ console.

[@zusty9589]

​@@jeffmyname7277You are not getting PS5 Pro performance/hardware from a $700 at-sale prebuilt lol, YOU'RE smoked

[@unknownGoblin]

​@@zusty9589Yes you do, do you want to know how I know? I am the one making pre-builds. You don't even take into account that you have to pay 120€ pr year to play online. You will outpay a 1440p beast (raw performance and not sissy upscaling) within 2 years. Ofc if you want the stand and a disc driver, you will start on par with a 1440p beast and outpay it within a year.

[@badtopvm3156]

@@jeffmyname7277700$ pc will never run the same games ps5 does. Thats the difference and why ps5 is alot more budget friendly. All tho pc is alot nicer but it is atleast 2x more expensive.

[@Kingotfu]

The mention of updates made me chuckle lol. Pc quite literally gets about 30 times the amount of updates. Not to mention a constant cycle of troubleshooting just get games to run correctly until something changes and you need to troubleshoot again a few months later. I still spend more time on console because of my main gaming buddy but if it wasn’t for the extra few dozen headaches I would be on PC solo a lot.

[@meatkhaab]

Bro his shirt 😂😂😂

[@waynemarsh7775]

I had someone at work teach what a bussy was😂. I literally could've give the rest of my days without knowing!

[@cryptocsguy9282]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@dextertheguy1042]

that t shirt is wild😂😂😂 Im here for the bussy😂

[@Mr-jj3gp]

What’s bussy?

[@cypressbartlett9083]

Gotta say though, quick launch and quick start on the xbone-one is why I keep going back. After a hard day's yakka, just so much better to flop on the couch, hold that on button down, and immediately jump back into one of several games I was playing.

[@let_me_explain8572]

Unlike consoles, PC can actually do all those things that you listed

[@TheEnderCyclops]

PCs just look cooler

[@ToastyBros]

That is very true

[@YoDz-117]

Not lately. Too much rgb got everyone looking like a pride rally at home

[@TheEnderCyclops]

@@YoDz-117 They don’t need to have RGB. That’s the beauty of PCs, they can look however you want them to.

[@linkdog74]

@@YoDz-117 you don't need RGB, hope this helps!

[@adity-m2g]

​@@TheEnderCyclopsSad thing is atleast in my country there aren't many parts which don't have RGB everything including mousepad have RGB also cases are trying to include lights in every place possible

[@onehappyphi4756]

Also modding games in pc is infinitely easier and gives older games more replay ability. CoD bo3 and WAW for custom zombies is a great example of that

[@Razorokc]

Minimal life experience, minimal leaving the house, minimal exercise, minimal human contact, minimal sexual experiences.......

[@rabbitOfDemise]

Who you talking to

[@Razorokc]

@rabbitOfDemise watch the video

[@rabbitOfDemise]

@@Razorokc I did who you talking to

[@Razorokc]

@rabbitOfDemise talking to the guy in the video stupid. Everything he said was minimal this and minimal that. pretty easy to figure that out.

[@rabbitOfDemise]

@ your mom minimal

[@technorunner1]

You definitely don't get cheaper prices for games on PC. When something goes on sale on Steam or Epic, it's on sale everywhere.

[@fancyslimoshady]

Lol no.

[@Pelayum]

It's not always the case. PC (Steam) not only has more sales, but most of the time when the game is on sale, they're usually cheaper than the sale available on console

[@cehaem2]

@@Pelayum And on console you can always get 2nd hand games.

[@calebreynolds9318]

​@@cehaem2Shhh don't let them hear about getting a $70 game for $5 second hand.

[@cessnacitation-x]

​@@calebreynolds9318Shhh don't let console players know about free online, and piracy. All games are literally free on PCs, and that's the correct use of the word 'literally'

[@TheRealxVincent]

I built my PC out of a retired server I got for free, have less than $500 in it, and it's played every game I've thrown at it the last 6 years. I just play 1080p though

[@Qu4ntvm]

I also don’t just do gaming. I code, do hw, emulate stuff, use VMs, etc

[@ericnjoroge6260]

And with a PC, you can always wire it up to your preferred TV in case you miss the console experience. It may have its complications, but once you've done your setup properly, then, it's a matter of having massive fun

[@VidsnStuff]

You can even make a PC with built-in Bluetooth, connect a wireless remote, configure your controls and play.

[@Thornskade]

I think in the near future a lot of people will have living room PCs running SteamOS Pretty exciting because no one has done the 'dead simple' thing without also locking you into an ecosystem like consoles do

[@TheMELLOWcheese]

I think the main selling point for consoles is the simplicity. I love pc, but sometimes I miss just being able to boot up my Xbox and launch a game with no issues and have a generally tailored experience.

[@Boro87]

I was excited to play the older games that come with my psplus premium. Then i noticed many of them run at 30 fps😅. Whilest on py pc, the max refreshrate of my monitor is always the limit (5 times better)

[@nickolaslewis4416]

$280 Xbox S for a causal gamer is absolutely worth it over a dedicated PC game machine.

[@TheAllhailben7]

$400 Steam Deck is a much better purchase worth the premium

[@Fluffball555]

​@@TheAllhailben7no, not rlly, a series s will perform better, and what about epic launcher on steam os?

[@TheAllhailben7]

@@Fluffball555 hero launcher works just fine. Was playing my free copy of Death Stranding the other day and was able to redeem the current free game on the store

[@BMGGHOST]

Dude thank you for making me seem not crazy saying that consoles use upscalers. I theorized it forever and people called me crazy cuz im a pc gamer and their xbox or ps

[@Kazuma.gg567]

Ps5 can only play at 1080p and at 1440p it is upscaled and the refresh rate drop to 60

[@WingPlaysGames]

To be fair most people playing 4K on PC are also using DLSS while not getting much over 60fps as well, it’s just 60fps on PC feels way different

[@BMGGHOST]

@@WingPlaysGames I know people on PC use it, I'm one of them lol. People on the consoles tell me theirs run in native 4k and I explain to them that the console uses an upscaler and they try to argue or call me crazy

[@Kazuma.gg567]

@@BMGGHOST but the important part is even in 1440p pc give more fps and value ,As you get a more capable machine you try to fully utilize it and if you drop 500$ on a console is not worth it

[@BMGGHOST]

@@Kazuma.gg567 that is true entirely. Lol. Plus they last alot longer than consoles

[@GoldenBeast90]

You nailed it in a 1 minute video!

[@ilyes5560]

You forgot that pc can play online anytime everytime and for free with no monthly/yearly subscriptions

[@todaysdesperadohatesavocad7109]

At $80 up front per year, or $120 per year if you pay monthly, while using conservative estimates and saying five years per console generation, that's about $400 IN ADDITION to your $500 console bringing it to almost a grand. That's before the cost of games and such. Like, bare minimum. The argument that PC's are more expensive is made using very substandard financial understandings. Sure, up front, right now, you're paying about $650 ($500 for the console, $10 for the internet, $60 per game, let's say you got two games) but in the long run you're paying out the ass. People who buy consoles don't think of money like that though, because most folks live paycheck to paycheck. Long-term investments are simply calculus/theoretical physics to them. I wish folks would consider taking the money they would normally use to buy their laptop (everyone has a PC/laptop these days), tack on the cost of the console they'd usually buy, and get themselves a decent rig instead.

[@ilyes5560]

@@todaysdesperadohatesavocad7109 there are people that are ready to pay for the long term as long as it doesn't break the bank, I as someone who bought a ps5 slim bought it not because I like ps5 exclusive titles but Because PC parts were more expensive plus I don't have a place or a monitor for it which kind of sucked because I consider versatility over specialty which pc offer and is made for it

[@spiderman3309]

​@@todaysdesperadohatesavocad7109 can you plz recommend a type of pc that is not too expensive and at the same time can do all the work that a console would?

[@nerdwarden]

That shirt, earned a follow. Haha!

[@SaffronHorizon]

Steam input makes gaming with a controller so much better on pc. Not to mention the tons of mods that are available for pc games

[@tomaliothetomato439]

I have officially retired from being a diehard console gamer. Waiting for my new and improved pc to be ready.

[@CammyDoesStuff]

You have made a choice that will last a lifetime

[@luxnoria]

There really isn't much of a difference if you don't mod games or do other work on a pc. Since you'll probably update your parts every new console generation the latest, and every half generation the earliest. I do both.

[@tomaliothetomato439]

@luxnoria I do other stuff, I mod, I want to be able to just have all my games on one thing, I want access to more games, better vr experience, and the games perform/look way better.

[@luxnoria]

@@tomaliothetomato439 If you use a console for gaming then all the games are on one thing. It's only if you split yourself between pc and console. But hey least on console you don't need to download multiple launchers. I've not done vr since vr is expensive anywhere and it's not worth it imo. My pc is mostly just for youtube and work. I've noticed no performance difference between my pc and ps5, but with very few select high end games there is a graphical difference. But since I rarely play super high end games. (Since I find most of them pretty generic) That's not a selling point for me. I'm not a graphics fanboy just a gameplay one.

[@tomaliothetomato439]

@@luxnoria all games are not on every console and Pc has infinitely more games.

[@Mike__P]

Pc gamers be waiting years for AAA console games to release.

[@canman87]

Not really, we have access to virtually anything we want. So while some games may take time for a PC release to come out, we're busy playing a thousand other games and doing other PC things that don't relate to gaming. And then when those games do come to PC, they're almost always more robust and visually impressive experiences, because they've had time to work out a lot of the issues and also aren't constrained to the limits of console hardware.

[@Mike__P]

The majority of PC gamers play on small screens, so with greater ppi of course the games will look better.

[@UKGUN1T]

@@Mike__Plmao what? Makes no sense

[@TheAllhailben7]

Console gamers wait years for an RDR2 patch and can't play games they missed on Xbox 360 without it specifically releasing as a new version. Also, Xbox gamers wait until they can buy another whole ass console to get PS5 games that release on PC like Horizon, GOW and Spider-Man

[@Mike__P]

@TheAllhailben7 yea I stay away from game consoles made by operating system developers.

[@ToonSack]

Hey man I have a pc and sometimes I just wanna sit on the couch with an adventure game over diagnosing my headsets audio even though I’ve changed absolutely no settings since last play through

[@PERTEKofficial]

One of the best things about PC is that you can modify the game however you want. I can buy a game on Xbox and play it as is or I can buy the same game on PC and do whatever I want to it

[@geebee1858]

Can you play modded games on a console?

[@ToastyBros]

You can but it is very hard, not very common

[@cultofhampter]

Only on games where modding is supported

[@kaihimself7448]

Depends, you can on the ps4 but, it’s a very old console and you’d be stuck at 1080p unless you bought a ps4 pro for like $300 but even then it’s still a old console. Plus it’s gonna be used since only older firmares can play modded games. Stuff like that usually turns into a hobby.

[@peezydabeatmonster8112]

consoles usually just get mod menus and the mods approved by Xbox and ps5 its still limited

[@singularonaut]

They said back then 90% of the price was physical disc and distribution, but now we even don't buy games, just licences and it costs to as 60 USD 😢

[@DATBOI_KINGKAl]

I’m here for the bussy🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@itsthacarter1]

😂 I thought I was seeing things

[@ApexWolfPR]

Seeing how the ps5 pro is priced.... you must be tripping if you buy a ps5 pro over just buying a pc

[@DrZombrain]

You mean a console that needs a almost $500-600 graphics card anyway let alone 2tb and possibly better optimization per graphics

[@ApexWolfPR]

@@DrZombrain idk where you are looking for prices but even a 6700xt is more powerful than a ps5 alone and those go for around 180 to 250 in the used market, pair that with a 5600x that goes for around 120 as new, a decent motherboard for around 100 and you dont really need 2tb of storage just get a 1tb m.2 drive that goes for around 50 to 80 dollars, a case of maybe 80 to 100, a 80+ bronze rated power supplly for maybe 60 and 32gb of ddr4 that goes for around 50, and if you dont want the stock cooler that comes with the cpu you could also get a peerless assassin for about 40 dollars And there you go, a 780 build better than a ps5

[@ApexWolfPR]

And also there is probably someone who is able to make a way better build for less and still being faster and better than a ps5

[@DrZombrain]

@@ApexWolfPR we aren’t talking about a ps5 rn we are talking about a the pro. And if you take the 45% boost, plus good enough ray tracing and to get a good equivalent of PSSR, you would need a 4070. Which is in the $500 range, without everything else, and you wouldn’t need to order or build or set up, consoles are meant for gaming and will have better plug n play. Plus when you get it, you get one of the best controllers if not the best on the market included 🤷

[@ApexWolfPR]

@@DrZombrain so if its just as strong as a 4070 means it will probably be beaten by 5060 and 8700 which will probably go for around 250 to 350 as per usual so really just get a pc cause a 700 dollar console With no disk tray included is a scam

[@drewstreet4178]

I recently went from pc to xbox series x (still have my pc for pc only games, beamng mainly) purely for the simplicity, I got the xbox setup my old account from my 360 days, got gamepass and with my decent Internet got playing in no time without any issues or sorting anything out

[@JustPhillGaming]

Not going to lie I was a heavy console guy until I came to my senses and built my first gaming PC a few years ago and haven’t look back I still like my PS5 but PC opened up my eyes to a whole lot.

[@spiderman3309]

What was the cost to build yours tho? And does it compatible for every game old and new ones?

[@RainyFoxUwU]

​@@spiderman3309why wouldn't it be?

[@WZUPHO]

Tabbing out of a game and being able to do whatever I want with being able to simply tab back in to the game in a second is unbeatable

[@Jordanisokatnth]

That's kinda the whole gimmick of home computers. They aren't even made for gaming. they're used for running those ram eating apps for work

[@DBIIJ0U]

What? A computer can be what you want it to be. You could build a mini itx system that performs better than consoles and jumps into Steam Big Picture from your couch if you wanted to.

[@Ray-i6r]

agreed, paying for an internet connection you already have is outrageous

[@pepsienjoyer17]

You don’t have to for free games on consoles, had a console for years and never once paid for one and still was able to play fortnite and other such games

[@asherdales]

It really doesn't make sense to buy an Xbox over PC.

[@jameybobamey7343]

I travel from city to city for work. A console is portable and easy to move around. I need something small so it makes sense for me

[@TheMELLOWcheese]

It makes sense if you just want simplicity. I've had my fair share of games that just won't launch on pc for seemingly no reason only to find there is no helpful info out there for my issue. I love pc and wouldn't trade it for anything but it's by no means perfect

[@TheMELLOWcheese]

​@@jameybobamey7343 gaming laptops or mini gaming pcs are a great option, plenty there to chose from though probably not the best bang for your buck

[@YMeDoyElLujazo]

the price...

[@Fluffball555]

it does tbh

[@lolwalls6418]

Not only that, but also the fact that you can build up your steam library and still be able to play those games 10 years later, unlike PlayStation or xbox, I can't grab an old PS2 or Xbox game and expect for it to work on the new consoles, not only that, but the upgrade ability is amazing, I can't go out and buy a 2 or 300 buck part for a console like I can with a PC, and then you have consoles, oh? You want an upgrade? Here, buy this new console!

[@spiderman3309]

Do you need 1 build up/set up to play every kinda game old and new or you will have to rebuild again? I mean if it's one time job i'd consider choosing it over any console!!

[@MikeP01111]

You absolutely can Grab an Old Xbox Game and Play it on the newest one. Even original xbox Games are running, aswel as xbox 360 and xbox one games.

[@calebreynolds9318]

Cross gen compatibility doesn't exist ig

[@Disconnect350]

Is that why old games on new PC's need so much troubleshooting? widescreen fixes? just had to delete Mafia 2 cause it had a slow-motion bug. You PC gamers are liars. Couldn't play Quake 4 cause it had a texture bug on new systems. Stop lying.

[@adity-m2g]

​@@Disconnect350I literally fixed many issues games had by just replacing files which are available on Google that too on my old ass laptop you don't have to be programmer to fix many of the issues unless they are from dev side and many times just doing a re-install works don't know what are you on also with few tweaks and settings you can play any game from any era

[@TheShaggyGriffin]

Built a $1200 PC ten years ago and it still holds up, though I will be building a new one soon. In those ten years, I spent around $1200 on consoles so I think you’re fine with either route. I will make the point though that your PS5 can’t run photoshop or blender, so go with PC if you want to be able to be creative on your system.

[@miri3602]

Pc is so much better

[@ToastyBros]

true!

[@Tarnish_ed]

pirating is the only reason i took a pc over a console

[@brianwilliams2188]

@@Tarnish_ed you got a PC so you can do something illegal

[@brucewayne2955]

Actually lotta games of PS4 Pro & PS5 run at 1200p & not every game has upscaling tech implemented. It's up to devs to use it in their games

[@Snight101]

Every console gamer also owns a PC, so may as well just get a good PC.

[@todaysdesperadohatesavocad7109]

THIS. I've pointed out to my buddy that with the proliferation of PC's/laptops as the norm for people to own, it's just bound to grow naturally. If the average person takes the money they were going to use on a laptop/PC anyways, and tack on the money they'd use on a console otherwise, combined you'd get a pretty beefy rig.

[@QuicklyFreeze]

exactly ps5 for gaming and pc for everything else

[@chummygun]

Damn, so I guess you know everyone personally then?

[@daviddutch8652]

I know exactly 0 people that own a pc. Everyone has either a laptop, tablet or does everything on their phone. Sorry, but this is by far the weakest argument I've seen in this comment section.

[@Snight101]

@@daviddutch8652 a laptop is a pc

[@thedarkemissary]

PC guys - mentions competition in the marketplace. Also PC guys - absolutely lose it over 3rd party launchers. PC guys - it's only expensive at entry. Also PC guys - buys new $2000 GPU every year. PC guys - 10x as many games than console. Also PC guys - 90% playtime = Fortnite and Minecraft. PC guys need to stop attacking people for purchasing consoles. Then they'll stop defending their console purchases.

[@giraffez1]

I didnt think we do, and none of what you said is accurate applied to me (pc)

[@pekka405]

yeah nice strawmen

[@冞]

not a single soul buys a new gpu every year, nor does it ever cost that much to replace it lol

[@canman87]

Only idiots do any of the things you mentioned. Especially the point about buying a new $2000 GPU every year. First of all, there's no consumer-grade GPU that costs that much and the 4090 has been the top dawg for a couple years at this point. What are they going to do, buy a 4090 and then buy another 4090 the year after? Give me a break. I had a 2080ti for almost six years and just got a 4070 Super this past summer; that's a far cry from buying a "$2000 GPU every year".

[@LinkLich]

how many exclusive ps5 games are there...... less than 20 Xbox less than 50 Consoles suck

[@Monmonfg]

Fast resume is one the best feature of modern gaming and I hope we get this feature in everything so we can switch between games no lag like it’s 2025!

[@Mohsen-un7ct]

Who the f buy games we pirate them here😂😂

[@ToastyBros]

Woahhhhhh, you're a pirate!

[@war_x_gamer6585]

W pcs and L consoles

[@ToastyBros]

W's everywhere!

[@Calithecalico1031]

For me it’s the ease of using mod managers vs what devs try to provide themselves

[@sycoskater]

I'm stuck in kinda a limbo. I love the versatility of a PC, but the simplicity of a console. So I turned my gaming laptop into the ability to mimic a console when I want it to, but also able to play just like a PC if I want.

[@mgord9518]

Steam Deck.

[@vigamortezadventures7972]

I would include not having to pay for online multiplayer, able to do other things than just game. Bringing your library to future pc builds . No need for retro compatibility with older games. If you own older games there’s emulators. So it’s definitely worth getting into.

[@RandomJuicyFella]

True especially when i pirate all of the singleplayer games

[@canman87]

My favorite example was that PC had Breath of the Wild emulated at 4k/60FPS before it even released on Switch 🤣🤣🤣

[@ericromero1620]

Them shorts boi wit dat leopard 🐆 makes you look spicey my dawg

[@Corporate101-mk6ib]

As someone who has both and has an hour or two a few nights out of the week to devote to gaming. It is sooo much easier to grab my ps5 controller and boot up a game than with a pc. Especially if you haven’t turned it on in a few months

[@OceanViewsYT]

Not to mention all the glorious modding for games like Skyrim, Fallout, Cyberpunk, Witcher, Star Wars Jedi, Star Wars Battlefront, Spiderman, GTA V... and the ability to play different genres that rarely are available on consoles like MMO's or Custom Servers like GTA FiveM or GrandRP

[@Jack-by2hg]

I got my series x for $350. Not much can beat that.

[@calebroman8184]

Funny I'm watching this video while I wait for my friend to restart his computer for the 5th time 😂

[@TheCanadianDreamEvergreen]

I like how many different visuals you can control on pc

[@justinassirvydis8376]

I was about to go balistic in the comments hearing the first part of the video 😂

[@brenscott5416]

Theres also the fact that parts on a pc typically outlast consoles while still being viable. Theres also the fact that its far far cheaper to upgrade, you also dont lose everything in the upgrade, you also get access to games from across time, modding is easier, more versatility, more settings, typically better performance, customizable appearance, no subscription to play online, you can do co-op by using steam play which is like ds download play, you get more choice in controller, perifirals arent intensely expensive, there are far more perifrials. I could go on for an extremely long time. Consoles costing what they do so they do less than a pc of equivalent cost is unjustifiable

[@fauxdoh]

Also another factor people don't consider with consoles is that if you really want the best experience (*4k*, high refresh rates and similar visual enjoyment) you also require a TV that supports all of that which in most cases averages another $500 assuming you don't already have a higher end TV

[@AtrayuSweet]

I don't have time for a gaming PC, but I appreciate its potential.

[@toadthegamer]

I’ve always preferred console gaming for saving on games because most of the time they’re just free for me. I usually just borrow the discs at my local library (which has most of the games that I’ve wanted to play so far) or from a friend who already owns it

[@l_uzi_l3541]

Also multitasking, keyboard + mouse compatibility for competitive games, mods, etc....

[@pressurechief]

I like both, i like the exclusives and the ease of use and transportation with my switch and ps5, and i like the variety of my PC

[@OTRFTransport]

Not to mention greater selection of video game stores as well as games from Independent developers. Also add to that that a high-end gaming PC can also be used as a video editing/graphic design workstation so it's easier to monetize

[@SimonBauer7]

for me, the biggest thing was always being able to use the pc for other things than gaming.

[@alexlewis2807]

The best part, it’s free to play online. You literally need a monthly subscription to play online on Xbox and PS5 if the game isn’t already free which most aren’t

[@finaltheorygames1781]

I come from NES, SNES, Genesis era. Back then PC's were difficult to run games on. Many times the PC wouldn't run your brand new game. With consoles they are supposed to be plug and play and the games are guaranteed to work. The problem now is that there are basically no exclusives.

[@jacksonjacobtv3368]

Physical games counter that argument for cheaper pc games

[@ClaytonMathisVO]

I work on computers for work. I come home I don't usually want to sit at my desk again, yes I can a hook a PC up to a TV but the experience is absolutely not the same even with Steam big picture mode. Also the multiple times games don't work sometimes for whatever reason and my PC may be older but it's not a slouch by any means. When I want to play game and relax I use my consoles most of the time nowadays, but for older games, some FPS, my SWTOR fix and Quake Champions sessions I'll use my PC. Basically it just comes down to how I'm feeling for the day which I'd say is common for people who play on Consoles and PCs.