We Built a $100 Gaming PC in 2024…Bad Idea?

[@ToastyBros]

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[@TheRealRuddRants]

E-Chug.

[@confusedturtle46]

wait why are y'all sponsored by water, don't you do PCs?

[@ToastyBros]

@@confusedturtle46 water is life

[@sohu86x]

To open the fridge for that long and that frequently is a great way to introduce tons of bacteria into that environment. Seems like a really dumb design tbh.

[@gamingbicarbonate2799]

i waaaaaant mooooore i like this weird episodes

[@shockcrew5275]

I have upgraded my Lenovo M83 with a 650w PSU, 2 SSDs, 16gb DDR3, a Xeon E3-1265L v3 and an RTX 2060-Super over the years. Still holds up brilliantly with incremental upgrades.

[@yeetus59]

I wouldnt say "holds up brilliantly" lmao that old haswell is screaming for mercy trying to keep up with an RTX 2060 Super.

[@shockcrew5275]

4 cores, 8 threads with AVX2 and SSE4.1 and 4.2 is all I need for my usual workloads (gaming being the most taxing). DLSS does its job without issue, even at 1440p. I have tested it, you haven't. I wrote facts. Every tech KZbinr backs this up unless they're sponsored.

[@HardWhereHero]

I love how old OEM's allow for Xeon support because their cheap ass's use the same motherboard for a desktop, workstation or a server. if you buy a standalone modern Asus or MSI motherboard, it wont have Xeon support unless its specifically a "Server" motherboard and the same goes for all other brands as well.

[@rotorglow6110]

Xeon is the GOAT for these 4th Gen builds. It's basically the i7-4770F 🔥

[@WhoTf_IsMatch]

Ddr3 is bad for those specs

[@slowmoe6546]

Found one of these with 4770s , Rx 550 4g and a 500 SSD for 80 dollars. Perfect build for my 6-year-old to play ROBLOX and Minecraft.

[@comiumapedra5397]

I'm thinking abt doing something like that but with a x97 xeon with a Rx 550 and Linux for my nephew.

[@laurensfundaytwl]

@@comiumapedra5397 If you spend just a little more on the 560 or a 470 you'll be doing them a huge favor!

[@legendsocool644]

my younger brother was using a I5 4690S and a RX 560 it worked for quite awhile until the mobo broke and with it's age we decided to just get him a new build he is now rocking a I7 6700 and 3050

[@Rade0719]

a 6 year old doesn’t need a computer

[@ailema9852]

@@Rade0719 in today's world its probably a good idea to get kids to have technology like a computer early on so they are used to it and know how it works and how to use it properly by the time they grow up. Obviously its needs a bunch of parental controls so a 6 year old doesn't end up on 4chan and use the computer 7 hours a day but still, as long as you're a good parent you should probably give your kids some access to technology at an early age if you're able to.

[@cuistotadomicile]

To fix the scratches use a black marker 2-3 coats will do miracle....

[@KomradeMikhail]

Drill the rivets out, repaint the whole case whatever colour you want. Get a Pop Rivet Gun for about $7, and a can of spray paint for $3.

[@02hacker]

Nail Polish for the shine for dollar.

[@loopleloop0074]

I worked at a landfill for years, I would take these home by the trunk full! Refresh windows, install updated drivers and sell them for $20-$25 (i3,i5 8gb-16gb ram) with hdd included, i7 machines usually went around $40-$60. Used to sell loads of these!

[@HMNNO]

Crazy these get thrown out. Glad you grabbed them

[@iamstd2]

Good on you for giving those a new life instead of letting them decay as e-waste.

[@DoRC]

The fact that a parallel port is obscure trivia makes me feel very very old.

[@curthollon2043]

totally agree

[@vip_bimmervip_bimmer8033]

Same, was like, that's a parallel port. Then thought that it was some obscure alternative but no

[@guaiqueritech]

Ditto here 😂

[@ScottGrammer]

Imagine if it was a SCSI port?

[@Mr.QuantumC0re]

Me too.

[@Britec09]

Do NOT do this people. That card requires 400w PSU. They have a 170w PSU, Yes, it might work for a while, but the PSU can catch fire. What's more important, VIEWS or SAFETY?

[@ToastyBros]

There is a difference between what GPU manufacturers say you need and what you actually need.

[@Britec09]

@@ToastyBros I agree, but 170 watts is pushing it as you mentioned in the video. Recommendation to replace PSU would of been better and safer for people. That card will probably have a 130w power draw. CPU is 60W TDP, that's without any other parts.

[@diegolink42]

Yes is always safer to go with a card that doesn't require 6 pin, for PSUs like these for peace of mind.

[@kristopherleslie8343]

Easy just buy a new psu and swap it out. Solution provided

[@baoquoc3710]

tdp vs actual power draw is a whole different matters mate. And this is the s variant, which means the binning is much more towards power conservation

[@brandonbrogren]

Just got done building my 1st PC in 15 years. Hadn't built one since I was 17. Then I go on KZbin and boom new toasty bros!

[@2528drevas]

Started on an Apple IIe in the early 80's, and built my first gaming PC in 1998. Old indeed.

[@TRJ_BAKED]

What are the specs?

[@brandonbrogren]

@@TRJ_BAKEDMobo GIGABYTE X570 PRO WIFI-Ryzen 7 5800x CPU-32GB DDR4 RAM (Delta T-Force 3200)-512GB Nvme-Rx 6700xt 12GB Vram. In a black Phanteks p400 case.

[@jordhan1]

@@brandonbrogren 6700xt is based. such a good value card. currently running one with a 3700x

[@nblastoise4479]

I paired an i5 4460 with a gtx 960 4gb back in 2017,served me so well.But now we need 6 cores and 8gb of VRAM

[@Aspectify.]

ive got one myself, ive got dual x5560 xeons, a 1070 ti, 6tb storage, 96 gigs of ram. it was an incredible wuild

[@TRJ_BAKED]

My dad bought me a hp prebuilt with a ryzen 3 3200g 8gb ram for school during covid I upgraded it to 16 gb ram, and a 1050 ti I only spent 140 bucks

[@BREEZYM6015]

How does the 1050ti perform?

[@baoquoc3710]

ok that's very nice one you got, but with 140$ for a 1050ti is literally overpriced for its performance. The 2060 or even 2070 and 5700XT will be better

[@bulldozerfx621]

@@baoquoc3710 he probably bought during covid

[@newspaperbin6763]

​@@baoquoc3710I think he meant in total with the ram

[@detecta]

@@baoquoc3710 no way you couldve found those for 140 like 2-4 years ago, also he bought an extra 8gb stick so id say he spent about 90 on a 1050ti

[@misterthegeoff9767]

The 960 is a real trooper of a card. I built a PC for a friend during covid and a 960 was the only card I could find anywhere and that card is still somehow going strong running cyberpunk 2077 and baldurs gate 3

[@Morrodin182]

Yeah I got myself a new PC about 2 months ago, my old pc was a 7th gen I7, GTX 960 4GB, 16GB ram, 1TB HDD. It ran BG3, though it was getting difficult on other titles. Tbf though it might have to do more with the slowpoke HDD than the rest of the system. Gave my old PC away to a colleague/friend for his girlfriend to use and she's very happy with my old PC :)

[@noriceformeplz]

I got an HP last year for $140 with 8th gen i5, 1050 gpu, and 16GB ram.. Was a deal. I upgraded the stock PSU, replaced the 1TB HDD with an 480GB SSD, put in a GTX1650. It preforms pretty good for what little bit of money i put in.

[@NimrodNo22]

I rescued an old PC my employer wanted to put in the trash - i7 6700, 16 GB RAM, 500 GB SSD, 360 Watt. I put in a used 80€ GTX 1650 Super and will make a 2013 Gaming PC out of it. GTA V, Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag ... it will be just nice and it cost me just 80 bucks. So with a little luck and just asking you can play decently on very cheap hardware.

[@C0LPAN1C]

Got a 2080ti off eBay for 230$ a few months back. Runs pretty well.

[@OlaftheGreat]

I got 3 untested GTX 960 2GB cards for $50 on eBay. Two of them worked flawlessly, the third one is buggy but still works. Fantastic deal.

[@alicreed3556]

What kind of work you do needs 3 gtx 960 ?

[@Elvarg]

@@alicreed3556pc flipping

[@deivisnx]

​@@alicreed3556 Bruh, whatver tf he wants.

[@bulldozerfx621]

@@alicreed3556 PC flipping or resell the gpus

[@alicreed3556]

@@deivisnx Am just curious about it

[@stormstechforge]

Love these videos, I bought an xps8700 a month ago from goodwill of middle Tennessee on ebay for $68, 4790/ R9 270/ 16gb ram/ 460w psu/ 500gb HD. The listing didn't even say it came with a gpu. Sold the r9 270 for $20 and bought a gtx1060 6gb from marketplace for $40, added a 256gb ssd $15, in all got about $105 in it.

[@BumpkinBros]

That one dude that's been asking for this for months

[@BlackMonkeyOg]

kabuse

[@Wendysburger-xz5bt]

an alternitive to the gtx 960 is the rx 470 4gb which you can regularly find for $40 and sometime like the gtx 960 30 to 35

[@ivansniper5837]

i use a rx570 with a used ryzen 5 1600 this sistems so capable of any high reshesh eSports even apex legends

[@phr3dmcc0y]

i love cheap but capable builds. money is tight, and the market is flooded with old used working stuff. No reason to not be able to crank out some gaming from cobbled together bits. If you guys have a flea market or two around you, i suggest you go there for your challenge. go to separate ones with a budget and see what you can cobble together

[@brimstonefootsteps4332]

Absolutely want to see a build off then a game battle between you two!

[@Dragon151415]

Honestly i had a 4gb 960 for almost 3 years,ram most games at 1080p and 720p,never had any issues

[@spookytofu2078]

Love the roadkill tshirt

[@bryans8656]

A Sharpie on those front panel scratches will do a decent job of hiding them.

[@cerescop]

You can upgrade to i7 4770 cpu and get a little more performance. The gtx 960 can pull 120 watts the 2 sata connections can give 108 watts. Don't run cinebench things could get smokey or burney, or just quit if the power supply protection is right.

[@cerescop]

@@jaredmishear3630 Oh yeah!!!! I just got up coffee hasn't kicked in yet. Still gazing out into infinity. Forgot bout the slot watts. Good catch.

[@himekomurata72]

It's safer to go for a 1050ti if you have that kind of psu. It's a 960 without the external power connector and slightly more modern too which means it will receive slightly more updates than the latter. They sometimes go for the same price too so it's the better option for this kind of pc

[@lotsofluvs8275]

Would love to see a PC Build with PC parts but have full latest Android running on it with 120hz capabilities. You guys are absolutely amazing. Keep up the good work. ❤

[@peteypoo2470]

i picked up a 1060 6gb (strix), an as rock b330 mobo, 750 w psu and ryzen 3 1200 for 70 aud. thre in a 500 gb ssd to bring me to 100 aud and got 8gb of rip jaws memory in the wild for 30 dollars. total price being 130 aussie dollars. the pc's you can find are pretty crazy deals. if people look eery day you will find a hidden treasure

[@FastGPU]

A 2,346 Time Spy score is terrible. Cost is irrelevant when scores dip that low. Plus, it's rare to get any computer for $25, let alone one as nice as that one was.

[@h.i.t.m.a.n_47_911]

8*2 ram sticks and taking a one with higher wattage 250-300 ,maybe from hp dell ,a 1050 ti or 1650 ,it will perform great for tight budget or as a start point or even a secondary pc

[@G.C.S113]

I built a PC with this Lenovo case using a Chinese x79 motherboard and a Xeon 2650v2 processor. With this Chinese card I can use an NVMe SSD. It was necessary to buy an adapter to connect the case cables to the motherboard.

[@Babbages]

give it a 2nd whipe down with rubbing alcohol to get rid of the slippery feeling.

[@SoupGaming841]

I bought a HPZ230 which already had 3.4 ghz cpu and a quadro k620. All I did was install a SSD snd OS and upgrade the ram it was good, costed $90 to.

[@nblastoise4479]

This videos are an inmediate like

[@RealEclipsed]

Love the $100 builds, its a great way to show just how cheap gaming can be if you search around. Would definetely love to see more videos with budgets like this (or even lower... say 75)

[@matthijsvandeweerd1415]

I got an HP Z240 (I7 6700, 16gb ram, 120gb ssd, 500gb hdd) for 40 euros, and a gtx 1060 for 45 euros. All in for 85 euros! I'd say that was a banger deal!

[@alfhar3649]

If anyone's building a budget PC and you have a small PSU, the RX 640 OEM is $40 on ebay, has a tdp of 50watts, and is about as strong as an RX 460 with 4gb of gddr5 vram. Its also a low profile card.

[@3drts753]

Black sharpie will clean up those scuff marks

[@BREEZYM6015]

​What? Leave the scuff marks?

[@Wushu-viking]

The GTX 960 is running a bit Toasty (in Valorant) considering the actual GPU usage. You definately want to install a exaust fan in the case (I think a 92mm fits in this). Also maybe repaste the GPU if temps rise/fall quickly.

[@adams4075]

A 20pin parallel port and the one you thought was a 9 pin is a com port (old style serial)

[@Love_Norway]

i have the exact same case with a 4790 and a 1050 and i also get a lot off stutters and chrashes

[@carter7894]

Parallel port and serial port if I remember correctly. I’m 21 but I like older tech lol

[@n8spL8]

LPT port for old printers

[@TheKormor]

I have a 120 pc on stock : 500g SSD Rx580 I7 3770k and an z77 mobo We can have insane deals rn.

[@anthonyrl8299]

Had an old pc with a g2020. I bought an I5 2550k for 15$, an rx 480nitro+ for 65$, a psu of 600w 80 plus standard for 40$ and 8gb of ddr3 ram 1333mhz. And it plays all games because I can overclock the i5 a lot.

[@anthonyrl8299]

and its really powerful. for example Fortnite gets at least 100 to 150 fps.

[@jeffleecust]

On builds like this it would be cool if you can add Classic/ Retail WoW to the tests. I think you can play up to level 20 without an account.

[@wew-z9n]

my best deal pcs are a 2650v4 12 core xeon w rx580 at $190, and 2680v4 with rx6600 for $250.

[@RWJXE]

FINALLY yesss I’ve beeeen waiting for this for soooo longgg

[@atrio381]

thank you toasty bros I will buy this pc

[@austinmatson7986]

Just ordered the waterdrop filter with the code lol. First time I’ve ever ordered something off a KZbin ad 😂

[@ToastyBros]

❤️

[@austinmatson7986]

@@ToastyBros keep up the good work guys. Loving the vids 🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@-S.T.P.]

6 months ago, you could have gotten a thinkcentre m900 tower w/ a 6th gen i5, 8 gigs ddr4, 500gb wd blue hd, and a built in win 10 license for $49 delivered...

[@davidboelhauf9228]

I’ve sent similar comments on other channels but I am still a big fan and have been watching Toasty Bros for a long time. I am writing this in hope that you can raise awareness to the tech community to watch out for scams. I have been scammed out of over $450 trying to buy a Steam Deck and want to help people not fall for such an obvious scam like I did. I'm not looking for free stuff and want to give you the full breakdown and back story of how it happened in hope that no one else will feel as stupid as I did.

[@davidboelhauf9228]

I also have all evidence and pictures/ videos and receipts to prove my story

[@arasumi3408]

Cool story bro , nobody cares womp womp

[@tonycollazorappo]

I wish I could find one like that I could upgrade to Windows 11. I really like the towers with a dvd drive in them.

[@pharmdiddy5120]

I saw $17 and change shipping on that eBay page but still... Awesome deal either way

[@hellcat3981]

To reduce stutters in Fortnite, lower the view distance from far to nearest, I think this is one if the most cpu-intensive setting

[@EinSwitzer]

Throttle stop on the older hardware office PCs are needed

[@Wushu-viking]

I would definately go for a GTX 1050 Ti instead. First, no adapter needed, uses just 50-70W. Second, still cheap these days and performs on par with the GTX 960 4GB. The platform/CPU itself, you can expect to use around 60-70W from the PSU total during full CPU/RAM load . So adding a 120W GTX 960, is pushing it, if the PSU only is specced for 175W on the 12V rail. But again, should handle peaks above that. And usually these OEM's has pretty decent quality PSU's (better than the "no name" trash on the budget market). Another advantage you find with the 1050 Ti, is the ability to undervolt it simply in Afterburner, to use max 50W (still at stock clocks, and no power limit throttle). Very good option for a very low power PSU. Undervolting a Maxwell (9xx), require BIOS modding. It works, but more complicated (and risky)

[@Bolafett_]

I have the same cpu and an rx550. Works okay for esports. I use it mostly for emulation and can run from ps2 and Wii games with no problems.

[@BladeCrew]

You know what would have been good for it. A used gtx 1650 or rx 6400/6500xt. If you want more horsepower a RTX 3050 6GB would be perfect.

[@mrbrownhook]

that INTRO was crazy

[@chubbysocks5650]

Try getting a used HP 280 G1/490 G2 MT they use standard non proprietary parts.

[@EinSwitzer]

Also high priority setting in task manager for all quad and 6core pcs

[@jbake5022]

you all should do your own take on the old LTT $69 pc build.

[@mattmabou4290]

Db15 serial and DB25 parallel port

[@ChikaHakozaki]

I scored a crazy deal that I could build a $100 pc with asrock z390 that had a 8gb stick of ram in it, and came with a working i7 9700k for $5 legit no jokes, person that had it said a family member passed and they didn't know the value of it, but knew that I worked on PC stuff and well after testing it everything worked fine. I did however quickly order an asus motherboard, but still if I used the asrock board a $100 pc would be possible

[@ma-ta_in_tinerete]

I just loves these type of vids

[@MadelnOahu]

That pc has never tooked such a big gasp of relief when you ended the test gaming session

[@LastBast]

Really cool! Wish i can find more deals like this!

[@floydlooney6837]

The ThinkCenters at your link are mostly going for $55-59.

[@HardWhereHero]

The best bang for buck is to ditch the power supply for a 450 watt used, reputable brand on Fleabay or somewhere. That psu wont smoke or explode, OEM's use damn good components in their PSU's. it will, however, shut down as soon as it hits 20 watts over that 175. So, ditch the $45 960 and grab a better PSU and a RX 580, THEN you have a build worth the time and money and it will only cost around 130 to 150 depending on the price and spec of the base system. You all hit a gold mine getting one with ram and a i5. Most of the $30 to $60 systems I get have 4GB of ram and like a core i3!

[@weakness000]

you should have used a rx 580 8gb variant, u can get it for around $25-60 used

[@bobryan7927]

e3 1240v3 Xeon (4770) and 16gb ram for a total of 40$ extra. Think it would really help Fortnite a lot. Great video and thanks guys! Maybe do a video on Linux install to help when Windows 10 loses support? Hate for so much hardware to go to e-waste because Microsoft wants to play hardball with consumers.

[@lorenzofal2068]

for ultra budget i have got i built something like this, bought a bundle for 30€ for an i5 3470 4gb of ram and a mobo with IO shield and cpu cooler, than bought a gt1030 for 60€, then for 40€ upgraded the ram to 16gb, bought a new psu for 100€new msi mag a650gl fully modular and a kingstone 480gb for 35€ and for like 260€ i've built a really good pc for everyday use and i play a lot of minecraft with a lot of optimization mods and runs at 100 to 150fps average depending on what are you doing and often i play some singleplayer games like all of the tomb raider games all set to medium to high graphics settings and runs really well and some star wars jedi fallen order but it was too much stuttery because of the gpu i think or for the cpu even dropping the resolution didnt change much, i use a 1440x900 75hz monitor acer al1916w so you need to find the best offers and the best parts for lower price, if im gonna upgrade i will go to an am4 platform almost all the mobo's with a bios update can handle all of the am4 ryzen but im not too sure

[@kadec.p.b5422]

Long port looks like a serial port. My work uses them for receipt printers

[@DoRC]

Parallel port

[@HundredKnight]

The paralegal port, no other use than connecting to a dot matrix printer

[@EternalSaber]

I know this is an old vid I'm commenting on but have you tried a Linux distro? Might free up some resources. I'm currently tinkering with an i5-2310 with 4GB of DDR3 and a GTX 950 and it runs rocket league smooth as butter in a 1080p 120hz resolution. I'll get back to you on the graphics settings.

[@DJ1eye28]

Put overwatch back in the benchmarks?

[@MnKadm]

You guys should make a video about ChatGPT making you a budget gaming pc

[@KomradeMikhail]

$100 budgets are nonsense... Because you could have jumped this build up to a Xeon with Hyperthreading, 16GB of RAM, and an RX 580 2048SP for literally just a few dollars more. A couple extra bucks to replace sketchy PSU's would also put everybody's minds at ease. Budget builds should really start with a $150 bare minimum.

[@frallorfrallor3410]

i love these videos not everyone got alot of money but still rly wanna play games👍

[@johnathanhanson8650]

Just caught a laptop, specs. I5 6400u 4GB Ram 1tb HDD £50 I think it's a good buy what's everyone's else's thoughts

[@tonymerasty]

for these older builds win 11 enterprise ltsc will install natively - i did on a i5 2320 older hp midtower

[@detecta]

ltsc 11 is out??

[@jordhan1]

this would be a great pc to give to a kid wanting to learn computers and play some basic games like minecraft

[@JDStickland]

This formula as a whole is easily replicable. Snag a Dell/HP/Lenovo for $40 or less, budget $20 to add an SSD or more RAM, then spend $40 on an RX 460, Quadro (various models such as the K2200) or GTX 1050. Skip the adapters, while they benchmark fine and may run for a while, it's absolutely going to send the PSU to an early grave.

[@jrdoughty13]

960s are great bargain cards. 1060s are obviously superior, but the price gap for used ones is still more than I'd expect between the gens

[@BREEZYM6015]

1060s go for about $60.

[@jrdoughty13]

@@BREEZYM6015 yup, but I can get a 960 locally for half that at times, and if you're talking a 100 bucks build, it matters

[@RyanGrange]

Thank you for acknowledging the randomness of ebay deals.

[@davidstephens189]

Parallel printer port.... That 9 pin is a mini RS232 serial port. Old tech.

[@Tirebay2]

I would like to see a 200$ build sometime soon Hopefully.

[@BMW-M4-M-POWER]

should I upgrade my pc over time from an i3 6100 to an i7 6700 Add an GTX1050ti A new power supply 24 gb of ram

[@BREEZYM6015]

What morherboard do you have? I have an i7 8700k and it's still a good CPU.

[@BMW-M4-M-POWER]

@@BREEZYM6015 just an old optiplex With an LGA1151 I think and ddr3

[@jamescavanaugh8211]

Parallel and serial ports on the back...good god I'm old...

[@KadiusFTW]

gpu wise, you could also go with a w5100 4gb from amd with the nimez drivers. just shy of 1050 ti perf (in the balpark of this card) and 4gb of vram, for like 20 bucks or less

[@freefirenoub4396]

i just build a i7 4770 with 960 4gb 16 gb ddr3 for only 130bucks with shiping and taxes worth or not [i use elitedesk 705g1 that had inside 16 gb ddr3 and 512gb ssd end 2tb hhd for 80 bucks +15 spiping and a 960 for 20 bucks+5for shiping+10bucks for adaptor

[@Fresdr]

this can run better than my $400 laptop

[@Cyber_Gas]

Does your 400$ laptop have dedicated gpu?

[@Fresdr]

@@Cyber_Gas I have AMD radeon integrated graphics

[@Cyber_Gas]

@@Fresdr that explains it it is slower than the gtx 960 or what they used and what cpu u have?

[@Fresdr]

@@Cyber_Gas Ryzen 5 7520U

[@Cyber_Gas]

@@Fresdr ok ok

[@Jkaninteangemittnamn]

Just replace the power supply - One cant add anything without the pc might malfunction

[@MARO_XG]

I did a dell optiplex 7010 sff build it was good till i added a gtx 1050 ti lp it worked fine i. The beginning i even played on it qith no issue for almost a week and one day i turned it on and the power cord got burnt out for some reason Ps the cord is too old and it did it with two of em and both of em got 1997 on em

[@itsdeonlol]

A $100 PC Build is crazy, but only the Toasty Bros can pull it off!

[@Ultimatebubs]

They shoulda busted out the black sharpie to fill in those front case scratches :)

[@BREEZYM6015]

​@@UltimatebubsI'm sure they'll knock some off of the price.

[@weelebaseknowles4410]

Used one on a 6500xt low watts I wouldn’t worry though my power supply has 290 watts

[@railgun_runner]

Do a Dell Optiplex 9020 / XPS 8700 case SLEEPER!

[@AshtonGodbout]

i see many pre built with 8th gen i5s go for $100 cad there like budget 8gb ram and 500gb - 1tb SSD. some with disk drives some without, matx mainly. i would suggest gtx 980 4gb it has better ;latency times

[@AshtonGodbout]

this combo should last even with bottle backing CPU with a good rtx card. the speeds on these on ones are slowly getting worse though

[@onebladeprop]

The real OG's know that as a parallel port