The best EDC Pocket Tool Money Can Buy!

This video is a story about how my taste in Everyday Carry Knives has evolved over time and why I now carry a Victorinox Swiss Champ every day.
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[@tecnotrog1]

I've carried a SAK since I was 14, I'm 61 now, and I carry a SAK spartan. When my SAK gets a bit dull, I use a leather strop, and the edge comes right back. Also I subscribed 🦉

[@hermandegroot1946]

I am a 77 yo Dutch, retired male. I carry my Swiss Champ 16795 every day since 25 years. Before I had other Victorinox knifes.

[@imp2247]

Im not an outdoorsy or handyman type, but i find all sorts of uses for my Victorinox Compact. Only knife i carry.

[@beneluxfortisenthusiast]

You are so right about the champ. I have one 32 years! And still one of my favorites. Use it every holiday.

[@jasonjulian1]

The can opener tip on teh SAK can undo Phillips screws... I wouldn't want to do more than a half dozen of them... but it can do it and is designed as such. I'd also say, if the scales are the only thing holding you back from the Cybertool L, just get aftermarket or custom scales. You can get wood, micarta, g10, titanium, whatever you want.

[@josduivis1968]

To this day I do not regret my choice of the Victorinox cyber tool l. I placed beautiful green micarta and titanium scales on this. I also carry the Victorinox Cyber ​​Tool l in my 5 pocket. I only use the knife as a secondary knife. I'd love to see your video where you go into more detail about the champ. The Victorinox Champion is actually the first knife I bought with my first salary 35 years ago.

[@TobisTings]

I have been thinking about custom scales for the Cybertool L for a while now as I still consider it to be the more useful one out of the two. Glad to hear I am not the only one :), thanks!

[@fastandcurious]

Scales are so easy to change...

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

Cybertool M was the first Victorinox I bought after graduating high school (vid on my channel). I also rock the L from time to time, but now work EDC the Swiss Champ. The Cybertools are one heck of a do-literally-everything package.

[@davidjacobs828]

​@@TobisTings Victorinox ranger. Period .

[@cobbler88]

This is where I hit my tipping point. I LOVE the Classic. I've got a few and always have one around my neck as usually the only knife I hike with. But I draw the line at feeling like I need enough tools to be able to build a barn in case of emergency. You've got people who never leave short hiking trails making sure they have an awl in case they need to fashion their own clothing from animal pelts. We run into this in hiking as well. It's often a difference between getting one for YOUR needs, and the desire to have one so you can fill everyone ELSE'S needs. The former is usually lighter and less cumbersome.

[@DanAddison]

Yeah I just remind myself that for 40 years I survived daily life just fine with no knife/tool on me at all, and barely even felt inconvenienced. So even now that I have become interested in EDC and am a fan of SAKs, I go to the smallest and most minimalistic end of the spectrum. If it has a tool I don’t use at least once a week, I don’t carry it around with me like a nutcase.

[@brianfreeman2500]

You still are one of my favorite EDC channels. I always return to Victorinox and Opinel too.

[@erehweslefox]

I've carried a swiss champ since the late 1980s, when I won one for selling the most Strawberry Festival tickets in my local Boy Scout Troop competition. I have taken care of it, clean , oil and sharp it regularly, and it is still in fine shape. I love it and feel naked without it. The couple times I've left it behind on a trip, because my ex persuaded me to go 'carry on only' on a air trip or I was travelling somewhere that is non-permissive, I've felt naked. Like you I have a bunch of high end lockbacks and multi-tools. But the Swiss Champ owns a place in my right pocket. Cheers! Todd

[@Borealwalkabouts]

Absolutely beautiful of you to title your granddaddy as your hero. I am a father of four children and I do my best be their hero every single day

[@207sport]

Love your video. As a Leatherman collector, I still carry my swisschamp very often over the cybertool L. It was my dream knife for years and a great friend gave it to me for my 40th birthday.

[@TheGrenadier97]

I carry a Victorinox Swisschamp and a Signature everyday. The Swisschamp in particular is the best all-around multitool in my opinion.

[@ehoenig]

Agree. I carry the swisschamp for 2 years now with titanium scales and I cannot think of leaving it home. Another thing is that people in Germany are not afraid seeing me using a swiss pocket knife and it is legal to carry.

[@GoldinFredddy]

I just found your channel, my first knife was the swiss champ i bought from my manager. Sadly i lost it a while ago but I'm planing to get a new one. Love your videos keep them up! After work im going to explore the rest of your channel.

[@skorzeny7377]

Pioneer X in my pocket, with a Swisschamp and a pair of Knipex Cobra pliers in my sling bag has been my solution to life “on the go.” My Swisschamp has been with me for over ten years, mostly carried in a bag that is always with me or nearby, and has outperformed any leatherman style multitool Ive ever owned previously. In fact, my Swisstool Spirit X rarely sees action and has been living in my car for years now, unused and neglected bc the champ is just that effective and convenient

[@christopherchapman8893]

Great realistic and no BS video!

[@enriquediaz7547]

My SAK was clutch this Xmas! Opening gifts, fixing a dishwasher clamp/hose, & opened wine bottles. I was even able yup unlock a restroom door. I remember a “green” alox one you bought in New York.

[@CorsoandMastiffadventures]

It's funny how easy how easy it is to get into the trap of carrying a bunch of expensive crap that'll you never use. Once I switches back to a just having my SAK and keeping a set of pliers and a bit driver in my backpack haha

[@coltonmandell4829]

Really enjoying the vibes of your videos.

[@Freditovfss]

100% agree! I had a similar awakening experience which lead me to what I carry now which is a leather pouch containe a knipex cobra xs and a Victorinix Evo S16.

[@FlynnMcTaggart]

I've carried my swisschamp every day for over a decade. I have some green micarta scales on it now and it's still just as incredible as the day I got it and it's the best edc purchase I've ever made.

[@Temutchi5]

You will fall in love again when you get a leatherman surge. Thanks for the info about the Philips driver, often ppl forget how much needed it is for certain jobs.

[@beltenebrosgr1904]

The production value of this video and your thoughts on the matter are great! Honestly I think that the Victorinox Champ is amazing (especially) as a value for money multitool. Keep going strong... and yes a video with you presenting the Champ would be cool. Take care...

[@kingfan1019]

Hey, ich bin nach vielen Messern und Tools zum gleichen Schluss gekommen. Das Swisschamp will ich immer dabei haben, zwei Sachen stören mich leider doch. 1. Wenn man es an einem kleinen Clip in die Hosentasche hängt, weil die 5. Jeans Tasche zu klein oder quer ist, und dass den ganzen Tag, stört es schon leicht. 2. Ich möchte eine feststehenden, größere, Klinge dabei haben weil es mir ein Gefühl der Sicherheit gibt Die Lösung zur Zeit, eine kleine Männer Handtasche und beides drin. Viele Grüße

[@tanosanti]

Great video! I found your channel today and this video. it's a great example of our doubts concerning the most adequate EDC multitool. I own a Victorinox Champion model from the '70s, I switch to a Swisschamp in 1986 (the great Victorinox SOS Survival kit) I carried it for many countries, in cars or flights (till 11/09 when the flights regulations was changed). In the past decades I bought and use many others pocket tools and multitools (including Leatherman, Gerber and other brands), but I always come back to the Swisschamp Actually, as an EDC I regularly switched from a Swisschamp to a "kit" of a Victorinox Champion plus and a Leatherman Squirt Ps4 (both discontinued products). The Leatherman Wave and Gerber are at home or in the car trunk. In my wallet always a Swisscard and in the case phone a Classic Alox SD. I used them daily The others are just as a part of my collection.

[@VanBreedamTim]

Would love a 'real day in the life' video about using the sak. I to have the same feeling about those Victorinox knives, also reminds me of my childhood. ❤

[@sinusnovi3826]

Ever heard of Felix Immler? He has his own victorinox channel and is a victorinox employee

[@knifemax6356]

Nach vielen Jahren, in denen ich tausende von Euros in Folder gesteckt habe, bin ich seit ca 2 Jahren nur noch mit einem Victorinox unterwegs und mache damit alles und bin super zufrieden. Oft ist das einfach, doch das richtige 😊 Grüße Max ✌

[@wpymes]

Great video. Very thorough and concise. It answers a question I had about the same subject. I have had a Victorinox kit for years with a compass and a little Maglite flashlite in a leather case which i carry on my camping trips. Lately I bought several expensive knives and a Leatherman Charge with a 21 bit kit. But after watching your video I guess I will go shopping again. Thumbs up.

[@bawanhardi9359]

Best edc video ive seen! Great story, and very good conclusions.

[@avanm420]

Stick bread in Canada is called bannock and is traditional to indigenous peoples here

[@ryankanters4385]

I have been carrying the Victorinox huntsman for years, with plus scales so i can have a pen for urban environment plus the glasses screwdriver and pin since they didnt come with it either.... the reason that i choose the victorinox over other high steel etc etc knives/multitool is because the Victorinox goes way beyond limitations of Creativity how you use it, i even learned how to use the pen into the corkscrew and the small knife as center and a passer (dutch german word i think) or when im outdoors i can do the corkscrew in a long stick so i can saw off a twig high in the tree when my fishing hook got stuck there...many possibilities with a victorinox

[@kvernesdotten]

12:22 - Yeah but the SAK blades aren't made for that. Victorinox actually have gone in depth on why they still use fairly low grade steels with very high chromium content, and its mostly to do with reliability, rust resistance and hygiene. These knives are made to do tasks like whittle wood, spread food on bread and personal hygiene. The steel and chrome finish makes them super easy to clean and maintain

[@TheGrenadier97]

Indeed. In my experience the edge retention is pretty ok. Besides, i prefer having excellent rust resistance than some fancy steel that would pump the price up.

[@kvernesdotten]

@@TheGrenadier97 Yeah there's a correct tool for everything, for a general purpose, daily use multitool that is meant to take on camping trips and whatnot I think its the right call. Super steels have their place, I just don't think this is it. What's funny though is that at least me personally often have to experience and own some high quality stuff to appreciate and understand that the cheaper items often aren't a worse version of the same thing, its a different thing made for a different purpose

[@vanmahler6282]

Very nice you way that show the items and the music, everything is so good here, thanks for sharing :)

[@J1M99]

I really enjoyed this video. I do recommend making your own custom scales, they're quite easy

[@saldomino1639]

Great Video ! I carry the Victorinox Huntsman great knife !

[@matthausholzl2645]

after carrying the swiss champ fpr the better part of 8 years, i got myself the behemoth called swiss champ xlt. and i love it.

[@XRPtheStandard58900]

New to the channel, great content here. I own a Swiss Champ as well. New subscriber now

[@l.e.6077]

I have gone a similar route... Got almost a dozen higher end folders similar to yours (Spyderco, Benchmade, Chris Reeve) but came back to only carrying a Victorinox about 6-7 years ago. For the most part it's been the Compact but I recently got a Swiss Champ and really enjoy it, too. The only issue with Victorinox is that I never can decide which one to carry... Victorinox' quality is outstanding - considering the lifetime warranty, the price and where it's made. I don't see myself going back to carrying higher end folders again.

[@JoeZasada]

The Swiss champ and cyber tool are incredibly useful and well thought out tools.

[@johnnymossville]

I've gone backwards in my carry. I now carry a simple Case Mini Trapper and am loving it. It reminds me of my grandfathers.

[@duggrim3946]

I have carried my Swiss champ daily since the day I bought it on September 8th 1987. if I need something more robust I carry a cold steel ad-10. Both of my lovelies happy customized with new scales

[@AlexBurgueno]

I always like your videos. So pleasant to see them. Lately I've been carrying a Victorinox Hiker (sometimes I switch it for the Pioneer X), paired with the Knipex Cobra XS, for every day tasks. Also a pocket folder (modern or traditional) specialy for food prep. I'm satisfied with this carry. I feel I can do 80% of what I may encounter every day.

[@jenswurm]

How do you carry the knipex?

[@AlexBurgueno]

@@jenswurm in a Viperade VE15 EDC pocket organizer I carry the Hiker, the Knipex and fisher bullet space pen, and also use it as a wallet.

[@thespiritofDynamic]

Großartiges Videos und gute Überlegungen! Ich mag deine Videos SEHR

[@Bob-ts2tu]

i've had a small SAK for over 20 years, & been checking out the various options myself recently, as i would like a larger one, and have come to the conclusion the swiss champ would my best option, coz if you want the versatility, you have to put up with a bit of extra size and weight, there's no choice !!. the pliers, scissors and phillips were must haves for me.

[@kellypainter7625]

I have a fetish for SAKs AND all the other pocket bling! Best of both worlds. I love my Cybertool

[@kabayan9746]

Excellent video! Talking more about the "experience" of having the edc multitool, not showing and explaining every single tool which we already know anyway kinda waste of time. I have been into a similar situation trying to have minimal carry but still lacking. So decided to go for the swisschamp and loving it so far...perfectly fits in my jeans fifth pocket. Subscribed to you for this. Cheers!

[@KD__.]

I carry a small Fresnel lense in my wallet, it's credit card sized and great for starting fires. They cost about £1 - €1. Great video i still just carry the allox sak

[@scenicdriveways6708]

I have a Victorinox Swiss Tool X Plus Ratchet multitool, a Victorinox Huntsman pocket knife and a Victorinox Dual-Knife Sharpener. I never leave home without them. They are probably the most used tools I own.

[@loichansduskic6545]

Great video!

[@steveclark..]

I love all these tools to be honest, I own many different SAK's and folding knives, fixed blades etc. If I could only EDC one tool for all occasions, a multi purpose tool wins hands down.

[@chris_dowsett]

I carry this in my laptop bag so goes with me everywhere.

[@RayCotta-d1g]

Wow. I went the other way. I started carrying a Swiss army knife, then after some years I realized I was tiered of trying to use tools that were undersized, uncomfortable to use, or were just not practical with an almost 2 inch thick by 4 inch long handle attached to it. Then I went to the Leatherman, and then the Gerber. Now I carry a large folder and the Gerber Diesel and that is it. Much better, and if I need to deploy the pliers, I just flick the multi-tool and there it is. I can now use the knife and another tool with it as well.

[@stianhansen540]

I use a victorinox deluxe tinker. i looked down on victorinox at first, Thinking a big multitool was necesary. But my grandfather gave me his SAK just before he passed, it was old and beat up but i used it every day untill i lost it at sea. I cant think of a day without a SAK in my pocket

[@joe_a_photo]

Great video. I use a worksharp field sharpener to do steels like s30V and it’s only around $35. I enjoyed listening to your thought process

[@erickvazquez6518]

I agree with you, it's easy to get lost in the glow and glitter of fancy knives with titanium and carbon fiber and fancy steels when you mostly just need something that is good enough and is easy to carry. Now I have not bought anything super fancy like a Chris Reeve or Rick Hinderer, but after spending around 300 on a knife it does not feel like you get significantly more than spending 150. Even after putting titanium scales on a few knives, they don't necessarily feel all that more. Right now I've been carrying a $15 dollar Gerber from Sam's Club that came in a 3 pack or a Delica I bought on sale. That being said I also carry a Tinker alongside one of the other ones.

[@Northanteus]

I always shake my head when people complain about the weight or size of the swiss champ. It's not annoying at all. I have a pliers multitool that is heavier and bigger than the champ, on top of other tools, two watches (one on each wrist), 12+ keys in a key wallet that has other items as well, etc. and I have no problem. They're big whiners, acting like we are hiking 50 km a day? 🤣 I like being prepared for unexpected situations so I keep my gear. I plan on getting a swiss champ soon, with knipex cobra pliers. I am in the US in Virginia, so it is legal for me to conceal carry a one hand open, locking knife, so I also carry a Victorinox Ranger Grip 57. Just wish it had a clip to keep still in my pocket. 😋

[@folksurvival]

Why two watches?

[@johnpereztwo6059]

hv a few victorinoxs in my life . some are confiscated in the airports . the knife is so helpful. Always hv in everywhere i go .

[@robertbrannan9375]

I still have my victorinox classic that my parents gave me when I was 5!!

[@Gadgetdad007]

Get the Victorinox XLT as this has all the tools you will ever need and this fits nicely in your jeans pocket.

[@Paladin1776a]

It would be great to hear your thoughts on carry pouches for your Victorinox knives and other tools.

[@simonh6371]

I didn't go as deep as you did perhaps down the knife/steel rabbithole, my most expensive is the Spyderco Urban which cost £75, I got the Manly Wasp in S90V for £55 before the prices went up about 50%. The Wasp is great and cuts like a lazer but I don't use it much as I'm concerned about sharpening it lol In any case when I do carry a folder I still carry a Vic for the scissors, even if it's a small one like the 74mm moneyclip. I got my Swisschamp for a good price and in black which I prefer. At £57 about 8 months ago, it was only £7 ($10) more than a Leatherman Squirt and it's 10 times as good. Recently I got into also carrying dedicated pocket tools which fit together well with a SAK ie. the Knipex Cobra XS, and often the Wera 813 driver handle which is the size of a Bic lighter, inexpensive and way better than pocket jewellery titanium EDC drivers costing 5 or 10 times as much. Those 2 tools work really well together with a Vic Climber, or Farmer X.

[@pperrinuk]

Interesting journey - thanks for sharing. I have to say that I was told early on not to be too precious about my kit... when needed it may be lost or unavailable and I'd have to use whatever was to hand...

[@robduncan599]

A great choice! However if you want a Phillips but in a small compact size, a easy mod . Grind the can opener on any SAK and get a better can opener and a more useful small flat head with better reach and a excellent Phillips at the same time . My video will demonstrate. 1) Victorinox Angler black plus scales, and modification. 2) Victorinox Spartan All Blue. 3) victorinox explorer, huntsman, farmer, climber, screwdriver can opener mod.

[@gazfm9422]

Original Swisschamp all day everyday

[@niclas67878]

I carry the pioneer X in my pocket and the minichamp on my keychain. I think it's the ulitmate combo that can do almost everything.

[@waynedaniel4899]

Yes, would like to see actual use cases. Enjoy your content

[@Mr.ErikSnake]

I would like to see how you would use the multi tool 👍🏼 💯

[@j.m.3038]

Victorinox Mini Champ in the pocket as edc. Victorinox Ranger (the small one, 91mm) in the backpack for hiking or else.

[@ucitymetalhead]

I don't have any weird restrictions in Missouri so i use one leatherman or another, currently I'm using my surge but it is definitely a pants dropper.

[@krzysztofsiniarski9811]

I use swiss champ 22 years and od the best 😊

[@charlesmckinney]

I carry an Alox Farmer, a lighter and ferro rod on a cord around my neck in winter. It gets cold here. I carry a Vic Ranger in my pocket EDC.

[@johnr.9758]

I've had my cybertool for well over 20 years. Can't imagine not having it around. It now stays in my car pouch. I've fixed countless things for people and workplaces. I've even used it to build computers. I recently picked up a second one just in case....or to retire my original and let it sit on the shelf. The big difference between high end knives and victorinox, is that victorinox are users. They are toss around, get beat up, use every day.

[@grahampawson1502]

My EDC is a Swiss champ and leatherman bond “no locking” 🤙

[@Pb11588]

Vielleicht wäre es an der Zeit für dich, sich mal mit W3rktrieb (Florian) zu unterhalten. Er baut Custom Victorinox mit eigenen Scales und macht dir die Kombinationen möglich, die du wirklich haben willst. Außerdem passen in die Scales Zahnstocher und Pinzette. Mit 120€ kommst du dann zwar nicht aus, aber von den Chris Reeve Preisen bist du meilenweit entfernt. Ein Plus: Florian sitzt in Deutschland, also fallen keine Zollgebühren oder ähnlicher Mist an. Ich hab inzwischen 3 Modelle von ihm (Compact + Scissors, Huntsman mit Combotool und Zange statt Opening-Layer und small knife und Voyageur 93mm) und die Qualität ist klasse. Durch die geschraubte Konstruktion ist der Snap der Tools nochmal satter.

[@edwardfletcher7790]

The Cybertool L is a fantastic modern tool, esp with the torx drivers. However, if you're in a country with more sensible laws and enjoy camping, the Hercules has a locking blade, great tools and an excellent long philips screwdriver for all those horrid recessed screws. I LOVE Sinn watches 👍

[@candyquahogmarshmallow8257]

Sensible? With a knife that locks? Hmm😮

[@edwardfletcher7790]

@@candyquahogmarshmallow8257 If you're doing bushcraft, a knife that locks is a safety feature.

[@shedlife1783]

Locking blades are safer to use.

[@kvernesdotten]

While I do appreciate some nice knives and such, im with you on this one. Its actually starting to annoy me that the entire edc community is telling me that I NEEEEEEEED to have a titanium pen, backpack with titanium zippers, titanium prybar, leatherman arc, knipex cobras, solar cells, a power drill and cargo pants that turn into a sleeping bag every single time I leave the house. How do I even get my grocery shopping done without those? 7:00 I also recognize this, but at the same time I think its important to accept that you cant carry anything you might need, and if you are going to go get a tool to do something, the actual real tool will always beat the multitool. If It was me disassembling a shelf I would go get a ratcheting screwdriver or a drill even if my leatherman surge with ratcheting bit extender was on me. Less hassle, less frustration and probably less time too. Multitools are a gift from the gods when you dont have anything else, but when you do have something else, almost everything is better than them. Oh and I daily carry a victorinox tinker deluxe if that matters

[@michaelf7742]

Top Video. Hast du schonmal den Klassiker Otter Mercator K55K ausprobiert?

[@sinusnovi3826]

Since one year I am wearing every day a Victroinox Mini Champ attached on a small neck strap under my shirt. Every day, even at home.

[@diegochavez9286]

That video idea would be cool to see 👍🏽

[@griff7749]

For me, the original SAK (spartan or tinker) has the best balance of tools to size of any multi tool out there. Quality is great, edge is very thin and slicey, the entire tool is cheaper to replace than a new Benchmade blade for example. Maybe the best folder ever made.

[@johngraham8792]

Thank you Tobi, Have you liked at the Fox knives Vulpis, and if so what do you think?

[@jasone107]

Don’t discount the toothpick. It is the best tool I’ve found for cleaning pocket fuzz out of my cellphone charging port. That’s why the Tinker is my favorite. Picked it up for $1 at the state surplus store where they sell pocket knives confiscated at Airport security.

[@Skobeloff...]

Can't complain about the price

[@skovbo65]

I personly prefer to carry 2 Victorinox knifes like Handyman + Explorer or Ranger + Delux Tinker all with plus scales. That will make them easier to use and I will have 2 extra blades that I can keep rasor sharp just in case I need it also I can have a toothpick in one and an Firefky in the orher.

[@alecbuxton7634]

Thats the reason why my parents wouldn't buy be a swiss army knife when I was 12 in case I lost it but they had no problem getting me a Chinese copy that was a lot cheaper the first swiss army I bought myself when I was 18 and got It myself the first pocket knife I ever owned was a cheap Chinese made camping style three layer knife with 5 tools that Cost me three weeks pocket money when I was 8 this was years before all the modern UK knife laws came in as it was back in 1975

[@sameeralazawee7524]

Thank you

[@FortinbrasBB]

In your video @2:59 you have three Alox SAKs, what model and color is the one on the right?

[@thomasevans8784]

I have a huntsman’s SAK carry it everywhere

[@itaygolan217]

Hi! great video :) Can you write your wallet brand name?

[@danielnastase5302]

You can change scales. That way you could have the cybertool.

[@100-s9l]

I never carry SAKs anymore cuz I don't trust it to do anything remotely tough. Had the saw blade nearly close on my fingers at least twice in my life.

[@Hokossz]

My friend has a cybertool. The grip it is too thick (for me at least) for smaller more precise jobs

[@themightycrixus1131]

My dad just got me a Victorinox Champ for Christmas. Coolest thing ever.

[@lokpikr999]

IMO toting both the Victorinox Cybertool L and Leatherman Wave is the closest thing to carrying a toolbox.

[@parzivaltv9850]

Why choose? I carry a swiss champ and a Civivi Praxis Mini. 😊

[@kermitthepog7063]

You make such interesting and well produced videos, it astounds me that you don't have more views. F*ck the algorythm.

[@EricManoli-ky5zt]

Ich bin zum gleichen Endauswahl gekommen, nur mit einem anderen Ergebnis. Auch ich hatte beide hier, und hab mich dann für das Cybertool L entschieden. Aber es ist richtig, die Entscheidung war knapp. ;)

[@MrNb131]

Great video. I started with the swiss champ, got a bunch of other things, including the Cyber tool, then ultimately back to the Champ. My biggest disappointment in the cyberool is the lack of a variety of bits available. If they offered bit kits to supplement it would be so much better. It comes with 8 bit options. The swiss champ already covers 4 of those (2 Phillips, 2 flats). Of course the cybertool is a much better screwdriver (and nut driver) than the champ for specifically dealing with tech. But it's hard to give up that file.

[@rupertkoyd9944]

@MrNb131 The Cybertool L (the one in this video) has a file though? I just checked online. Are you referring to another Cybertool model?

[@MrNb131]

@@rupertkoyd9944 oh wow thanks for the correction. My model is the 'Cybertool Light' and I often forget it's not the "L" because it's slightly larger than my Champ! I forgot that the trade off was actually the magnifying glass which I also use a lot. I do carry the CT Light pretty often and like it but now I might need to collect the CT L! Can always put a fresnel lens in my wallet to have a magnifying glass. It's great for reading tiny serial numbers etc which is pretty frequent for tech. work.

[@rupertkoyd9944]

@MrNb131 I see. I figured you may have meant another model or something. Either that or I somehow misinterpreted your last few sentences. I was just interested. I want to purchase the swiss champ soon👍🏻 Edit: Just wanted to add that yeah I didn't know the Cybertool Lite didn't have the file. I had to check the Cybertool L (for 'Large' as opposed to 'Lite') anyway as I didn't know which tools it had compared to the Swiss Champ as I'm looking to get a Swiss Champ👍🏻

[@MrNb131]

@@rupertkoyd9944 I appreciate the correction! One unexpected disappointment in the Light is it has two less tools on the back-side than the Champ or Cybertool L. Though one of them is the small straight driver so meh but the other is the chisel. I never use the chisel on my Champ but someday it's going to come in handy, I just know it. :-) Though I do love the light part of the Light, it's oriented to illuminate what the screwdriver is turning. I miss that with other screwdrivers now. A nice surprise about the Champ for me is the fish scaler is actually not a total waste of space. I use it surprisingly often as a dull-ish long-ish pokey thing. Also I let my kids use it as a safe cardboard saw. Though they really should put a more modern tool in it's place.

[@rupertkoyd9944]

@MrNb131 for some reason my reply isn't showing. I'll wait a while and see if it's visible👍🏻

[@jeffreybarton1297]

For those on an extreme budget, I bought a copy of the Swiss Champ from China for £10. I was surprised how good it was for the money. I had to sharpen up the edges of the screwdrivers, and swap the tweezers out for genuine SAK ones. The only tool on the knife that was rubbish was the lens of the magnifying glass. I've popped the lens out, and might find a good quality lens at some point. Even the saw and scissors are pretty much as good as the original Swiss knife. I saved about £120.

[@odie7764]

I still have my first sak. A camper. I got it when I was 10, I'm 44 now. No idea how I ever lost it. I love victorinox, I have maybe 15 of them, that I've bought over the years. I have both of the swisstools. I've edc'd most victorinox models. I always end up going back to the rambler for edc.

[@Hokossz]

my first victorinox is also a camper : ) it's a great knife

[@odie7764]

I always seem to need a PH1 and a 3d ph1 is a rarity on saks.