the "not like us" diaspora wars are so stupid when we all grew up the same / similar
@whookedАй бұрын
the jayz line i was thinking of was " hes alright , be hes not real" lol
@trnt4005Ай бұрын
And the depression point is on point. As somebody who deal with depression I don’t want to hear a rapper talk about that shi. You come to hip hop to feel good about yourself, again that inner god 5 percenter stuff which is so integral to hip hop. And then none of these dudes talk about depression in an interesting way like Scarface or biggie did it’s just simple and corny.
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
@@trnt4005 exactly
@FinessedAnalyzerАй бұрын
10:35 - nobody’s a better example of this than DMX. During his prime, the only songs that were top 40 were Get At Me Dog and Up In Here-yet you’d be a fool to argue that any rapper was more popular than X from 98-01
@FinessedAnalyzerАй бұрын
15:25 - That Mr. Smith album was iconic. Nothing but chart toppers (Doin It, Hey Lover) and street anthems (I Shot Ya, Life As). He a full studded cast on the production side as well-because as you pointed out, the beats are the most important part of a song.
@user-it6yw4ee7nАй бұрын
Still D.R.E. is one of the top 5 most popular hip-hop songs from the 90s and barely scratched the Billboard Hot 100. It only got a "decent" position after the Super Bowl performance
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
The biggest misunderstanding about black America music, is that just because you are born a black American doesn't mean you automatically come pre installed with the understanding of said genre. We underestimate😏 how many black (casuals) there are that really dont care for black art at all. I'd talk about hiphop no matter who you are, if you understand it.
@CMJ_96Ай бұрын
Tf does pre-installing of a genre mean? People like what they like
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
@CMJ_96 casual say what? 😏 bra, I'm not stopping people from listening to what they want.
@CMJ_96Ай бұрын
@ Then what you said made no sense
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
It's not my fault you incapable of picking up what I'm putting down😏
@DarkWRLDGmzАй бұрын
@CMJ_96 OP is talking about tribalism. Ppl assume that based on gender/race/country of origin (if you're black/white etc..) that you have a pre set of experiences b/c they assume them to be true, in a stereotypical sense
@trnt4005Ай бұрын
Nas is definitely an introvert, and I think Ghostface is one too, he always got lyrics about standing in the corner not speaking 🤣. That’s why they’re so good at rapping but they know how to tap into that extrovert, fly, pop ya stuff energy that a rapper needs to which makes it all work. Introverts without swag need to be just poets or writers not rappers.
@tiger_lord305Ай бұрын
Introverts lowkey dominate in a lot of fields. They can be resourceful with their energy and tap into it when it’s needed like you said.
@MadiAbaraАй бұрын
LL doesn’t have an album that I care to listen to in full but I’d say “Mama Said Knock You Out” is his best work.
@baṭo_saṅsārinАй бұрын
Most important Rappers In History 1.Melle Mell 2.Kool Moe Dee 3.Krs-One 4.Rakim 5.Nas
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
How about the artist who did rappers delight?
@luiz_fuegoАй бұрын
what about Biggie?
@MrASAPABАй бұрын
I think PAC/Big should be there somewhere too
@yamuthahoАй бұрын
@@baṭo_saṅsārin Kool Keith
@gbc10gbcАй бұрын
I like interviews too, the amount of knowledge you can get in a great interview is enormous
@gbc10gbcАй бұрын
Bro Gibbs is exactly the kind of rapper that a white college student that’s a liberal arts major listens to thinking it’s some great insightful underground rap.
@nevedofficial466Ай бұрын
Lmao as a white dude who used to fuck with Gibbs before he showed his true colors, I never felt like he was that insightful, or really that underground... I feel like Logic fits that description way better esp like 8-10 years ago.
@MrASAPABАй бұрын
@@nevedofficial466 Gibbs makes music for Anthony fantano subscribers
@snowblunttalk1978Ай бұрын
31:33 Love the Freudian slip...but all jokes aside this is why I'm starting to really think Kendrick hates Black people. He comes down from his mountain top or wherever once every 3 years just to sell Black people their trauma on wax AGAIN and convince everyone to discuss it like it's some groundbreaking shit. Despite trying to claim he's "not your savior" he persistently portrays himself as Jesus, Moses, 2Pac...the superhero complex is insane, and coming from him at all these different angles, often times duplicitous. Then once it's time to actually make any concrete statements or actions he mysteriously "disappears" again. But let these fake woke people tell you that he REALLY is all he says he is! All while he works with Taylor Swift's producer to bring you that AUTHENTIC west coast sound, and then goes on to perform his pro-Black masterpieces at ... *checks notes*... ah yes! The All-American NFL Super Bowl. He's like a hood church pastor siphoning money albeit at a much larger scale. Very thankful I've officially divested from the K Bot narrative that's been ruling the rap game for a decade now
@gbc10gbcАй бұрын
I met nas, hov, rakim, Kane and others and all of them were kind enough to shake my hand and say hello. No bad experiences. Plus my friend that I told you I know who’s high up in this rap business who’s super cool and personally helped me with a lot of stuff when he didn’t have to.
@DibsEquippedАй бұрын
Thank you man this was hilarious😂
@andrewilliams6866Ай бұрын
Fred‘s interview had boondocks parody all over it.
@gbc10gbcАй бұрын
Bro in like 2003 or something Jay did a song with an Indian artist because he heard it somewhere on the road and fucked with it. People been trying to connect worldwide.
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
Absolutely. Which was a stroke of genius. The great rappers think different.
@gbc10gbcАй бұрын
@ and the song was hot!!!!
@tiger_lord305Ай бұрын
What was the song? I don’t think I’ve heard it.
@gbc10gbcАй бұрын
@@tiger_lord305 it’s on the s carter mixtape called Beware
@whookedАй бұрын
never stop bringing up love live asap its a classic
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
@@whooked no doubt!
@beshmikebeats1456Ай бұрын
Freddie Gibbs and Madlib allegedly never heard of each other until their mutual friend suggested they make music together. I think that move fucked up the game because it further enforced the narritive of "oh, I can be total garbage, but if I work with legendary producer I can be seen like legendary rappers they've produced for."
@andrewilliams6866Ай бұрын
Dang, bandana and piñata were solid. Madlib put his foot in those beats.
@camdatboiАй бұрын
Fax@@andrewilliams6866
@camdatboiАй бұрын
I mean that's a valid way to collab with someone by your fans or mutuals recommending you work with them and producers are the backbone what's the problem with a artist getting with a great producer? You rather him work with a trash one?😂
@beshmikebeats1456Ай бұрын
@camdatboi I guess not. I'm not saying that's an invalid way to work. If the music were only good then who cares how they met? I'm moreso alluding to Tochi's point that guy's like Freddie Gibbs don't really listen to rap but are seen as this legend once they get the co-sign or make an album with someone respected.
@camdatboiАй бұрын
@beshmikebeats1456 ik but but no one's saying Gibbs is a legend I only really hear them say he got 3 great albums but not a legend And in the interview he named artists he listened to
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
Thank you for sharing the LL Cool J interview Tochi, he said a lot of insightful stuff and I’m definitely gonna give it a listen.
@andrewilliams6866Ай бұрын
Frederick, I heard him back in ‘17 at the rolling loud festival. His stuff doesn’t translate live, he makes music for you to listen to on the way to the grocery store or run errands.
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
Gangsta J Cole
@andrewilliams6866Ай бұрын
@@tochiRTA lmaooo, the accuracy.
@tiger_lord305Ай бұрын
I remember I was having a discussion in your comment section and go back and forth with someone who said Nas didn’t evolve at all after Illmatic. You perfectly described how I feel about his later work, especially Lost Tapes. He definitely evolved.
@gbc10gbcАй бұрын
An important thing in rap is speaking up, making yourself heard. I can’t imagine an introvert who doesn’t wanna be seen rapping
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
@@gbc10gbc right! It makes no sense! 😆
@FlipSkriptzАй бұрын
Funny thing I'm an introvert but when it comes to rapping, I love showcasing my skills.
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
@@FlipSkriptzexactly
@gbc10gbcАй бұрын
@@FlipSkriptzexactly, its like a persona you put on
@FlipSkriptzАй бұрын
@@gbc10gbc it's not a persona per say. Hip-Hop is something I'm passionate about. I could talk about it for days lol
@MadiAbaraАй бұрын
I’m surprised you haven’t done a vid on Scarface (film). I rewatched it earlier this year and was floored. Classic. The 41st anniversary is coming up in a few days.
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
I’d love to see him doing a video on scarface, and the matrix trilogy.
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
@@MadiAbara I've seen that film too many times to count. In my top 3
@MadiAbaraАй бұрын
@@tochiRTA Word! I was watching the video to 2 of amerikaz most wanted by pac and the beginning of the vid references scarface. The influence that that movie had on Hip Hop is massive!
@MrASAPABАй бұрын
The amount of people that I’ve seen that think they’re “hip hop heads” say that Gibbs has a top ten discography in rap is so funny
@tiger_lord305Ай бұрын
Those guys have to be straight bots man. I don’t know no one that listens to Gibbs and I’ve never heard his music outside either.
@MrASAPABАй бұрын
@ bro he’s so bad. I admit tho he’s rapped over dope beats, but he actually fits the description of a “mumble rapper” more than the guys that are actually considered “mumble rappers.” No bars, nothing. He’s rapped over some good beats, but that’s about it.
@tiger_lord305Ай бұрын
@@MrASAPAB His voice is background noise
@MrASAPABАй бұрын
@ aside from his rapping, he’s just a cornball the way he goes about himself. Dissing legends, beefing with AK online, etc
@romaretaylor995316 күн бұрын
@@MrASAPAB idk what you heard but piñata is a masterpiece, and Freddie does not mumble he’s very fluent clear and actually funny
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
The kbot activities have been getting strong this past week 😂 i dont understand why come to a place you know you'll hate. You stans won't find validation for you tash music taste here. This channel is the best thing to happen to the hihop in longtime😏
@dneochxn4081Ай бұрын
Song is even wacker lmao 🤣
@chante-cameronАй бұрын
48:55 The industry do tell rappers what they need to rap about. Why do you think most modern rappers rap about popping pills, taking molly, Xanax and partying. That's the culture the execs wanna promote. There's certain things the industry will want you to make and if you don't comply you're booted. DMX was an example.
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
How did DMX got booted?
@chante-cameronАй бұрын
@@aandwdabest Label dropped him after he started calling out the industry and making Christian-friendly music
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
@chante-cameron Bruh, that’s tragic.
@arnavnaik6577Ай бұрын
The big reason I still come back to Pinata is the production. Gibbs' rapping really isn't that memorable, but that album has some fire beats. Uno, Robes, Watts, Knicks, Shame...even the extended version of the outro to Bomb: ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/joS6nX2hZdOle8U ). I probably play the instrumental version more than the actual one.
@nintendofannot4898Ай бұрын
49:53 reminder of some that you wanted to make a video about.
@itsX2024Ай бұрын
I think the only Gibbs song I've played a couple times is "Hot Boys" it's a non-album cut, not sure if you heard it.
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
@@itsX2024 who knows. With Fibbs, everything is so forgettable. 🤷🏿♂️
@CoOl-yc6erАй бұрын
I like “The Color Purple” but that’s more of an R&B-type thing. Good beat though.
@Kiyan3100Ай бұрын
@@CoOl-yc6erthat's off off esgn, actually my favorite album from him, I play it more than any of his mad gibbs collab albums personally
@arnavnaik6577Ай бұрын
@@Kiyan3100 IMO, Freddie Gibbs isn't much different than a Lil Baby or Meek Mill type "mud rapper", and his bars are average (hence Cocaine J Cole). With that being said, I would still take him over a lot of these other new era rappers because he at least has an ear for good beats, and decent vocal presence. That's why I fw ESGN big time. It has a lot of good beats that fit that mud rap mold (i.e. "Eastside Moonwalker", "Color Purple", "Real G Money", "9mm", etc.), and Freddie at least has some energy to match them. Some of his mixtape songs are also in a similar vein: "GI Pride", "What it Be Like", "Midwest Malcolm", "County Bounce", "BFK", "Bout It Bout It", "Boxframe Cadillac ('83 DeVille Mix)", "Breaking Bad", and "The Coldest".
@Kiyan3100Ай бұрын
@arnavnaik6577 facts, I agree with that, I've heard alot of those songs too, good on you for knowing alot about esgn
@ricochetsixtytenАй бұрын
Same problem I have with Pusha T, bro you've been an established rapper for 20 years now why are you still rapping about selling white
@FinessedAnalyzerАй бұрын
Push is the REAL boogeyman for you Drake stans 😂
@ricochetsixtytenАй бұрын
@@FinessedAnalyzer Nah i never liked Drake, this has nothing to do with the beef
@FinessedAnalyzerАй бұрын
@@A17-s1r he didn’t have to do anything, the diss alone was enough-hence why Drake had to send J Prince (his daddy) on a PR tour afterwards
@jameslight4391Ай бұрын
@@FinessedAnalyzer how did drake become a part of this?
@3lancerofficialmaybe871Ай бұрын
For me it's moreso his ear for beats fell off a bit after the second Clipse album, he still has a handful of dope songs after that.
@fno2009Ай бұрын
Gibbs is just pathetic. I've never heard an artist I admire talk like that.
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
@tochiRTA tochi, I'd like to know what your opinion on Laura Hill as a solo artist, because i hear people be putting her in the 10 rappers. I've been listening to her music with fuuges and think its alright. And😅 is it just me, or is Miseducation kinda overrated? I hear they say its better than Thriller, and do you consider her a pop artist because her music is an amalgamation of 3 different genres.
@jameslight4391Ай бұрын
She is r&b with a mix of rap. Not better than.
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
I'll talk about Lauryn at some point. Talented lady. Made some great music. Some of it hip hop.
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
47:14 😂😂 i dont even like Queens Bridge 😂
@LarryHazardАй бұрын
30:50 more factual facts have rarely been spoken
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
Dudes got a point there.
@oneeyedichiАй бұрын
yea we live in the internet age that forced regional shit does not make sense especially now in terms of cultural consumption you’re not going to be bound to the confines of your literal environment (unless you choose to or algorithm idk)
@taqedog3717Ай бұрын
Carti is actually working with brazilian funk producer mc lan
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
🤔I'm interested
@gbc10gbcАй бұрын
He is??? Damn… that interesting. I’m Brazilian so I’ll check for it
@user-it6yw4ee7nАй бұрын
Carti just chilling in the studio they cooking nothing
@ayemoe5842Ай бұрын
You gotta watch the roasting of Kendrick by Andrew, called his shilling and grift right out through comedy
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
I saw the clip, it was on a podcast called flagrant, and I believe it was another host who made jabs on Kendrick’s collaborator history. Andrew also made fun of Kendrick’s grammar usage which is some lol, he said he liked the album and he will make love to Kendrick, which is again, some lol. Never heard of Andrew Schulz until now.
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
@@aandwdabest man white boy roast that Duck😂
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
@@A17-s1r I saw the whole video, it was a bit over long and a weak roast, just a re-trend of previous talking points (Kendrick work with people with problematic histories, the Spotify controversy a few years ago, etc etc - all raised by a Schultz’s podcast co-host, who likes Kendrick’s music if I remembered it right). They did poke fun on Kendrick’s “fruitless efforts” on “policing comedians on what to talk and what not to talk about” (even though Kendrick only spend 4 seconds of the wacced out murals song on that subject matter) as well as Kendrick’s collaboration with the South Park creators on a new movie*, which I did had a light chuckle once or twice, but the whole video is no less cringey than Kendrick’s tired and incessant claim on his so called “GOAT” status on his songs.
@cg120bstАй бұрын
Freddie gibbs is str8 doo doo water
@dneochxn4081Ай бұрын
Yo tochi I don’t know if u ever been told , at least from KZbin, u hilarious dawg 😂 “effortlessly”
@gbc10gbcАй бұрын
Your dweeb voice is premium content man 😂
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@camdatboiАй бұрын
32:49 toch sampling worldwide music is different from going from culture to culture using they're accents and cosplaying as them for a song or two 😂
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
"cosplaying?" Ok... 🙄 This isn't an anime convention.
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
@@tochiRTA it's funny when they so close but still miss the point
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
@@A17-s1r What’s the point then? I’d like to hear your take. I do get that spewing regionalism (west coast vs east coast, ‘Not like us’ to a certain extent) in hip hop music these days can be pretty cringe, especially during the age of the internet.
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
@aandwdabest 😂 man, it's funny how the West Coast turds were going after Drake. You would have thought his from NY. Because that's the narrative that the West Coast need to perpetuate, that's the only time they get attention😂. NY🗽 run you sucker's. Riding 2pac nuts even though the guy was a crashout who ran away from NY😂, and people mistake his bad behavior and low key clout chasing for stoicism. I do not have NY bias but man the California rap just sucks.😂😂 crip walk like bunch of clowns
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
@@A17-s1r I just listened to the chronic and 2001 by Dr Dre In full a few days ago. The chronic is a decent album, some good songs with a young charismatic Snoop on the mic, but the album is overlong. 2001, however, has back to back bangers (loved the beat making and the production), I really liked all the songs - which is quite rare for me.
@MrASAPABАй бұрын
What do you think of the whole Andrew Schulz and Kendrick situation, OG?
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
@@MrASAPAB there is no situation 🤷🏿♂️
@dominiquesmith7680Ай бұрын
I mess with you Tochi but, Dot was moving the men and women at the function I went to last weekend. Even if you want to say it’s not hip hop or you don’t like it is one thing, but to say it ain’t moving people or making them dance is another convo.
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
That’s an interesting anecdote. Personally I find Tochi’s analysis hit and miss. Edit: Tochi was stressing “replay value” or longevity of the song years down the road, and he doesn’t think Kdot’s music has longevity. But the fact that GKMC Is still being played shows that his music does resonate with a large group of people, just in different ways.
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
Who cares? I've always stressed replay value, not popularity for the moment
@dominiquesmith7680Ай бұрын
@ Yes this is my antidotal experience, just as Tochi has talked about his antidotal experience with Dot music. What’s your point? Because if we want to bring up facts then we have to go into numbers , but idc for all that especially within hip hop.
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
@@dominiquesmith7680I felt that I communicated my point poorly. I think it’s cool to know that Kdot’s music is being played at the function and people vibe with it, and unlike Tochi, I do think that his music has some replay value. I find his take on effortless music, natural dope music to be a bit narrow minded, and his placement of Kdot success on “forced narrative” to me lacks nuance.
@dominiquesmith7680Ай бұрын
@ Exactly and that’s something none of us can dispute, as the numbers and how long those records have been on the charts speak for itself.
@lonzodreyellaАй бұрын
Does anyone know where ll cool j doing it sampled from...the fearless four F 4000 1983.
@MadiAbaraАй бұрын
Gibbs got some joints that I enjoy. He’s doesn’t impress me lyrically though.
@Tyler-hl6rqАй бұрын
Great title 😂
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
@tochiRTA Tochi plz do a reaction to Andrew Schulz roasting tf about Kendrick. That roast session got me on the floor😂😂 that white boy justs exposed how much of a griffter he is.
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
I personally found that Andrew Schulz video to be a waste of time (it was funny here and there but the whole thing was overlong), and I’d rather see Tochi do something he genuinely loves - talk about his favorite movies, 80s and 90s hip hop dives and other stuff. Plus I found his talking on Kendrick’s hype infinitely more insightful than that clip. Case in point - “Kendrick Lamar and the 7 types of propaganda”. A fascinating video. Another KZbin made a video called “Kendrick Lamar has the worst fanbase in hip hop” and I find it a worthwhile watch as well.
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
@aandwdabest I remember that propaganda video he did. The way he linked Kendrick and j Cole to the 7 types was clever and thats why he is the best hiphop commentator. It's one of those videos that makes really think. He basically exposed them both😏
@taqedog3717Ай бұрын
Jay z is a terrible person Playboi carti is a very terrible person J cole is a good guy Being a nice dude and being good at art are completely different things
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
do you know any of these people in real life?
@taqedog3717Ай бұрын
@tochiRTA no U don't have to know someone personally to kno they are terrible person
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
Bad people can make amazing and innovative art. Just because you can't separate the art from the artist does not mean we who came for only the music in the first place need to stop listening. And if there is 😂one thing this beef has proof, j fold is the is more of fraud than Kenny. He pretends to be the bigger man, but for lack of a better word, his is a pussy😂
@fno2009Ай бұрын
@@tochiRTA Do you need to know R Kelly in person to know he is a terrible person?
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
@@fno2009yes. But him being convinced certainly helps.
@baṭo_saṅsārinАй бұрын
LL Legend
@MadMaxTopShottaАй бұрын
The Freddie interview is boring lmao I would’ve turned that off if you wasn’t critiquing it
@Raggamuffin007Ай бұрын
So you’re a fraud is essentially what you’re telling me 😂😂😂
@balle733Ай бұрын
Mr smith was a weed plate. That interviewer is an LL casual and so are you. It’s clearly between Mama Said Knock You Out, Radio and BAD.
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
@@balle733 your favorite casual 😘
@MadMaxTopShottaАй бұрын
Your lying wit the weed plate talk
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
@@MadMaxTopShottathat's his entire shtick 😆
@balle733Ай бұрын
@@tochiRTA it is a weed plate. 🥱
@SoundMind.Ай бұрын
What an egregious take I Shot Ya Remix Hey Lover Loungin Mr Smith Hip Hop Life what are you talking about lmao
@jameslight4391Ай бұрын
You need to lay off Kendrick you are going to be see as a hatter. Use different examples
@tochiRTAАй бұрын
@@jameslight4391 I'm already considered a hater by his bots 🤷🏿♂️
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
@@tochiRTA That’s unfortunate honestly. I saw a video yesterday saying Kendrick has the worst fanbase In hip hop and I definitely see why.
@A17-s1rАй бұрын
There is no example better than Kenny. He has no redeeming qualities as a rapper
@MartinBryan-b5yАй бұрын
@@A17-s1rFacts 😂
@aandwdabestАй бұрын
I don’t mind Tochi pointing out Kendrick’s flaws as an artist and push back against the hype machine surrounding Kendrick, but using Drake as a counter example is kind of weak to me.
@ClarenceParkerCPАй бұрын
Yeah you definitely haven’t listened to Freddie Gibbs
@NastyRethaАй бұрын
This dude has no music taste at all he said Luther by Kdot is trash 😂😂😂
@ClarenceParkerCPАй бұрын
@ fax no taste at all
@jameslight4391Ай бұрын
What are Gibbs top 5 songs for you?
@MartinBryan-b5yАй бұрын
@@NastyRetha🗑️
@TopbandgetterАй бұрын
He trash 🗑 🤣
@yunfun.8893Ай бұрын
Thoughts on this track kzbin.info/www/bejne/gprap3iKiKeihqM
@dneochxn4081Ай бұрын
Yo tochi I don’t know if u ever been told , at least from KZbin, u hilarious dawg 😂 “effortlessly”