Is There Any Hard Evidence That Jesus Actually Existed?

Is there evidence for the existence of Jesus? This video delves into the historical and archaeological records, exploring theories and debates surrounding one of history's most significant religious figures.
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[@TodayIFoundOut]

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[@WINDOWS94198]

The existence of Jesus is in the faith of this Bald Man with Beard

[@MrDavies2006]

​​He is not stating his own opinion. Just going through history .

[@ayethein7681]

Tacitus called Pilate a procurator but he was not using records, but hearsay or he'd know Pilate was Prefect. And the Flavian testament is known to be at least partly a forgery.

[@nokoolaid]

His name was Yeshua.

[@SamSung-nf6tr]

love reading the comments.

[@zata1197]

I’m sure this is going to be a lovely comment section 😂

[@KKH92]

True!

[@ydid687]

filled with incorrigible "people" from all sides

[@SavageJunky]

C'mon... The Bible talk about love and forgiveness! Religious are never hateful! Imagine how hypocrite it would be...

[@Berengier817]

Agnostic her.e Jesus existed. That is pretty much all that can be proven. I think the Dwayne Johnson Hercules movie was pretty awesome in a way that could show Hercules existed. Millennia ago people thought crazy things, so for all we know some dude ran around saying he was the son of Zeus and did all that badass stuff

[@troyevitt2437]

@@Berengier817 There were a lot of Zealot movements among the Roman-occupied Judeans. Python's Life of Brian is actually very good for historical insight on the matter.

[@callabeth258]

I will always remember one of my teachers once saying ‘Oh Jesus definitely existed, its whether he was actually the son of god or not is the question"

[@davidagiel8130]

Your teacher was wrong

[@michaelpalmer7954]

@@davidagiel8130 Is this where Jesus was tried by Pontius Pilate? kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHytZ3qGq7OIncU

[@endersdragon34]

I mean there's fair evidence to say Jesus probably existed, or at least someone existed that inspired the mythos.... But as the gospels were written wayyyyyy after he allegedly died (and we don't have any gospel manuscripts from anywhere near when they were likely first written) anything in them is doubtful.

[@HandmadeDarcy]

It's the most common... how to put it nicely... obfuscation. 😂

[@moonshoes11]

It’s more like it doesn’t matter if he did exist. It matters only whether there is empirical evidence for any supernatural claims. And there is not.

[@RobertNolan]

"Do you even know who my dad is???" - Some dude wearing a robe and birkenstocks in his early 30s

[@chadasonmcgraw8097]

Funny, I enjoyed this comment! The representation is a bit off, but dang the joke is really funny!

[@XiaolinDraconis]

We would definitely watch the crucifixion of some dude in a bespoke coffee shop. We'd watch it live on Kick, probably while placing bets on how quickly he goes from talking about his dad to calling for his mom.

[@paigeblack6666]

Oh? Immmm! Your father! Padawan

[@windangel7720]

I don't believe in Jesus as God but researching his historicity has become one of my hobbies because the history of that time and place was incredibly interesting. Learning things like the actual meaning of the title Chrestus, how many people bore it and the potential of a Jesus having been a Mandaean apostate gives a whole new perspective on our history. In the big picture, it doesn't matter if there was a Jesus, many "Jesuses" or none but why Christianity came to be and took over Western culture for so long. Humans are a mess. That's all I can say. Great video. Definitely worth a half hour of my time.

[@bigchilling420]

American Christians particularly baffle me. They believe Jesus is and was real, the Bible is the word of God after all. But if you sit down and talk about the basics of him like how he was a middle eastern Jewish man that hated the corrupt merchant class and spent all his time with the homeless and lepers. He wasn't massively popular in and most of the people that did know him, did not like what he stood for. Then just ask them if they're conservative (of which a majority will say yes) and ask if that's what Jesus would do. Again they'll probably say "yes" and it's sad I'm atheist and have a deeper understanding of their own religion. 🤷

[@stephaniemurphy4390]

I 100% think we share a brain. I agree with every word.

[@trajancanada]

"In the big picture, it doesn't matter if there was a 'Jesus'...." I think I'm going to have to sort of disagree with you there.

[@windangel7720]

@@trajancanada Why? The faith exists, Christians believe, the history happened. Being a Buddhist, it doesn't matter if Siddhartha Gautama existed, either. The Sutras have validity even if the historical Buddha wasn't who they said he was.

[@Al8lack]

The real question is whether Simon Whistler exists or is he just an elaborate AI...?

[@DarkSnP]

He's perfect for just switching to full a.i KZbin controller, probably thousands of hours to feed the machine no one will notice in less than a year of use

[@Essjaythegreat]

I’ve actually never met him so he obviously mustn’t exist!!

[@__mads__]

Simon Whistler is a sentient beard.

[@ugh212]

There were no tangents so is the AI.

[@thomasblazek4104]

I have a hard time imagining an AI that a) has such a magnificent beard and b) would make itself bald at that age. As we heard in the video, if you make something up, you generally don't include embarassing features;)

[@Remixthisgaming]

I just like the fact that the first photo you used of Jesus was actually Obi-wan Kenobi

[@blessedveteran]

😂 I had to check and yup, thats him alright 😅

[@VAXHeadroom]

A well known internet meme. Well played :)

[@hanramz]

I saw it instantly, and for some reason it really ticked me off 😆

[@BetterCallGatto]

Hello there

[@levicaudell5001]

Jedi Jesus

[@ThaStonedGardner]

Those who deny Jesus are like those that deny climate change. That's a really weird statement to hear as an American, as here, those who are most likely to believe in Jesus are also those most likely to deny climate change.

[@dannycarlow8204]

Just the existence of Jesus. Not the son of God, just a man named Jesus. He's just saying that both climate change exists and a man named Jesus (no miracles) that lived back then existed. Nobody is saying he had Jedi powers or anything, just a carpenter.

[@RexOedipus.]

​@@dannycarlow8204yep internet atheists keep denying his existence. but his historiography is as much as alexander the great or caesar. There was a jew named jesus that existed and was crucified. Was he the magic man people say he is? Iunno

[@neclark08]

...AmuriKKKan Fundie Xtians cling to either (or both) "Certainties" on the subject of Climate-Change: That god won't ALLOW Humanity to Degrade Earth's EcoSystems to the point where our planet can no longer sustain Life, or; That god will permit/allow/encourage Humanity to Rape, Pillage & Plunder Earth's natural resources (per god's supposed 'Granting Man DOMINION over all animals, vegetables & minerals) -- to support Fruitful Human Multiplication...and at the Very Last Moment when All of Earths EcoSystems start collapsing in Holy Unison, BIG-DADDY god -- flanked on His right by JUNIOR & on His left by THE SPOOK -- will Ride to the RESCUE to the blare of Heavenly Trumpets..! And when NEITHER occurs -- and Earth's Climate goes Un-Stopably OUT OF CONTROL, "Good Xtians" will start pointing fingers- and casting Blame upon those who "Didn't BELIEVE Strongly Enough" to secure god's "Involvement"..! And the FINAL HOLY WAR will have Begun...

[@Gleamingone]

Climate change politically is just a tool to divide and control with. The earth's resources are finite but replenished in cycles, but we're using them too fast. The climate is out our control and everything changes in nature. It's normal. There is no crisis..

[@thebluedragon07]

@@dannycarlow8204 well keep in mind Yesuha (Joshua) would be a very common name back then, especially given that in the original Hebrew Bible, there were two figures that were named Joshua. The only thing that allows you to distinguish between the two was the slightly different spelling and the time frame between the change for one of the characters in the name.

[@sin-classic4856]

Comparing denialof Jesus to denial of climate change is honestly fucking hilarious

[@zeppelincraft1443]

Almost every Asian country: Yeah sure lol

[@diqweed69]

I don't think anyone really can deny that humans do have an effect on the environment. We just wanna know why the same people panicking over the imminent end of the world still own their beachfront properties, and fly their private jets everywhere, and only ever bother the lowest emission countries and leave the worst offenders alone, and blame average people for the world's problems instead of massive corporations that actually cause the problems...

[@bizzapandare1209]

​@diqweed69 Because they are the same people who don't segregate their trash, which is like 5 min max - because they don't want to spend the precious 5 minutes.

[@MP-db9sw]

Its not tho. To the extent that there is evidence it suggests that Jesus was a real person with a real ministry. Its not academically justified to completely deny that there was an apocalyptic preacher called Yeshua (or whatever)who was from Nazareth who was crucified by the Romans. Doesnt mean he was god, it just mean that the myth is based on a real person. There is considerably MORE evidence for man made climate change but categorically they are both academically justified and denial of either of them amounts to a kind of zealousness rooted in personal bias and in contradiction to the evidence.

[@fu102]

@@bizzapandare1209 which is pointless, if you actually take the precious 5mins to research the scam that is recycling

[@DanSoloha]

The fact that the editor used a picture of Ewan McGregor to introduce Jesus is so 👌😂

[@otaku521]

@@nienie713 obiwan.... I am not going there..

[@willywonka4340]

The thought of Jesus wielding lightsabers and have mind over matter powers (which clearly he has by walking on H2O) is a fascinating thought 😅

[@yisusferro603]

I guess if he would dare to use a picture from..let´s say Luke Skywalker, to talk freely about Mahoma…

[@billpii6314]

@@willywonka4340 Maybe the water was shallow.

[@Vincent-2057]

Oh good. That wasn't just me then!

[@mythicaldakka]

My favorite part of the Bible was when Jesus said "It's over, Pilate! I have the high ground!"

[@TheLochs]

lol, I'm stealing that.

[@RyanJones-ew8vm]

@@TheLochs don't, you will be crucified for it.

[@joshua.snyder]

Being on a cross is a tough high ground. 😅

[@mythicaldakka]

@@joshua.snyder You underestimate His power

[@RyanJones-ew8vm]

@@joshua.snyder nailed it with that one 😉

[@Wickedmain3r]

Luke: Do you know Jesus? Obi Wan: Why yes I do. That is me

[@MrYTGuy1]

of course I know him. he's me

[@TheNewAtheists]

This vid certainly didn’t convince me of anything groundbreaking that suddenly makes me believe that a supernatural human existed during a 30 yr time span on a 4 billion yr old planet and have any significance to my existence.

[@AikoBonsai]

The picture of Ewan McGregor on the mantle as Jesus killed me 😂

[@JupiKitten]

Same! 😂

[@mikenapier3598]

Hello there.... .have you heard the good news?

[@Re-bl5sr]

​@@mikenapier3598 Yes. Goodbye.

[@estudiordl]

Taking the "high" ground concept to another level... 😂

[@AussieWalkthroughs]

he is the master, borderline surrogate father of star wars Jesus.

[@jakeryan9469]

I think I should take a nap and try to watch this again

[@user-qf8to4rc1o]

Bro ur high huh😂

[@conchobar]

As an African American, I struggle to find historical evidence of the existence of some of my great grandparents, yet here I am.

[@turkeeg7644]

And where's the connection?

[@GUNBATOSINHISNAME]

Victim card cannot be used here. Cash onli

[@troyevitt2437]

When the Jewish people of Judea/Palestine were under Roman Occupation, a lot of Zealots, or Messianic figures, rose to challenge the Romans and were inevitably crucified, the common punishment for Sedition. Notable insurgencies were The Judean People's Front, The People's Front of Judea and The Judean Popular People's Front.

[@rainydaygaming5507]

😂

[@kdub1242]

And aside from the aqueducts, sanitation, the roads, irrigation, medicine, education, the wine, public order, the fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for the Jewish people?

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

[@wjbrooks19]

And Brian, the real messiah.

[@flamingtp4947]

Always look on the bright side of life.

[@cfhlogistics]

As soon as my time machine is finished I'll go back and let you all know

[@jgriego4797]

Back yet?

[@mountainmonkey15]

Let us know if Caesar existed too

[@cfhlogistics]

@@mountainmonkey15 funny that you'd mention that. My family and i are supposedly descendents of Caesar III. Gonna have to verify that while I'm at it. Might as well watch the battle of Troy. I heard Achilles was 4'11“. Might as well take a look at the battle of thermopile too. Gonna have to see if this 300 vs 1 million thing is true. I'm gonna do a count.

[@RS-Amsterdam]

Don't forget to buy Apple stocks in the 90's

[@cfhlogistics]

@@RS-Amsterdam I'm also gonna tell myself not to sell those 2000 bitcoins when they reach 10 cents and to wait until 2014 to sell 500 of them and sell the rest in March of 2024. I had 147 million dollars of coin that I sold for $200. Biggest mistake of my life. I don't like talking about it. Lesson learned. I make 700k a year so life ain't so bad.

[@arenee118]

I would think that the fact that the skies got dark, the curtain in the church was torn, and he rose from the dead would have been reported by the historians of the time. But it wasnt reported. Why not? Because it most likely did not happen.

[@Nate-bn5kk]

Actually there were historians who talked about such an event. I believe Josephus mentioned a similar event that happened around the time of Jesus crucifixion.

[@GhostScout42]

I mean they did report about the ressurection

[@KasparOne]

He only appeared after the resurrection to his disciples and for some reason they decided to go to their deaths to testify to it. Why would they do it, after his death? If they were fooled, the manipulator's influence would fade after he was gone, don't? think about it at your leisure. just don't loose your sleep!🎉😅

[@KasparOne]

all the rest you've mentioned was just a signs.. wind and bad weather happens.. would they say, don't they?

[@arenee118]

@@Nate-bn5kk The Book of Josephus was written 93-94 AD, so he did not witness the event. He just wrote about what others told him.

[@Christoph-hc2xr]

The question is, from where do these purported historians get the original story? The original version of the story we have (the gospels), is fictional. Any subsequent mention of a fictional story does not make that original fictional story historical.

[@adaptivelearner6162]

The Gospels aren't fictional though.....It is all widely been documented and records of it have been preserved and uncontaminated for thousands of years including in Ethiopia.

[@Christoph-hc2xr]

@@adaptivelearner6162 What has been widely documented? We don't even know the original authors of the gospels. They were written anonymously.

[@druidriley3163]

@@adaptivelearner6162 The gospels are all copies of each other. So 1) we don't have any originals 2) we wouldn't know if we had originals anyway 3) none of the gospels claim to be history, biography or an eyewitness account.

[@adaptivelearner6162]

@@druidriley3163 Hahaha yes they do, literally look at Luke. In luke the writer is documenting what people saw.

[@druidriley3163]

@@adaptivelearner6162 *In luke the writer is documenting what people saw* Exactly. Which isn't what an eyewitness account is. That's called 2nd or 3rd or even 4th hand hearsay. The author of Luke didn't see anything. He _claims_ he's writing down what other people saw, but is he? He doesn't name these people or tell us anything about them. So for all we know, he made it up. Considering how much he copied from the book of Mark, I wouldn't be trusting the author of Luke to be truthful.

[@she9896]

If he did…then he probably didn’t look like Ewan McGregor 🤣

[@JustMe-ne5dw]

Yes!! That HAS to be a picture of him as Obi-wan!

[@LuisSierra42]

He looked like Keanu Reeves

[@MLG85]

May the force, be with the.

[@spankflaps1365]

Ewan McGregor has the high ground

[@Cheyne_TetraMFG]

@@spankflaps1365 he who hath the high ground shall inherit the Earth, and he who doth not shall burn in fire 😂

[@wfjhDUI]

The most interesting part of this to me is just how little evidence there is for most historical figures from this era and earlier. Even if we're getting it right 99% of the time, that still leaves a significant number of historical figures who didn't actually exist.

[@TodayIFoundOut]

Or perhaps more likely the other way where there are a ton of hugely important people in their times in history we have zero record of. -Daven

[@brianfox771]

@@TodayIFoundOut The big problem that a lot of folks ignore through, when presenting the OP's agrument, which was touched on briefly here at the beginning, is that almost everything we read about Jesus is describing and arguing for the existence of a supernatural being that performed supernatural feats, not a regular guy doing amazing but mundane things. Historians in general will regard past figures with similar attributes as Jesus as being fictional or mythological; but somehow Jesus gets a pass here. Most past figures that are considered historical for whom we don't have a lot of evidence for are considered historical BECAUSE their descriptions are mundane not supernatural (with the occasional embellishment). To close on the argument that to deny Jesus' historicity is akin to denying climate change is patently fallacious. We have loads of evidence and data backing up climate change, not to mention the fundamentals of physical chemistry wrt to CO2. We have virtually no evidence of Jesus' existence except highly fictionalized writings from which some historians painfully try to tease out a real person. The historian who made that statement is truly trying to cover for some serious short comings.

[@wfjhDUI]

​@@brianfox771 The Jewish and Roman sources do describe Jesus in mundane terms.

[@brianfox771]

@@wfjhDUI Yes, the untampered ones do. But most of those sources are either quoting Christians or are derived from NT sources, and were written decades after Christianity had been established.

[@jackturner214]

@@brianfox771 - I would disagree with the notion that only Jesus of Nazareth gets a pass; most historians of religion that I am aware of regard Siddhartha Gautama as an historical figure as a matter of course (very few, that I have found, go on a "quest" for the "historical Siddhartha"). One could make the same argument regarding Mohammad, for instance. The exception I have noted is the three Patriarch and Moses, where most will consider the Patriarchs to be highly legendary figures at best (with a great number concluding Isaac never existed at all) and several doubting the existence of a specific Moses (with some suggesting Moses is an amalgamation of figures who were among the exodus group and who's actual identities are now lost to time). So I would disagree that Jesus receives a pass prima facia, particularly considering we have 200 years of serious academic study of Jesus as an historical figure, with interpretations of Jesus' historicity moving as different historical methods gain prominence. It's hard to say that Jesus just "gets a pass". While Prof. Meyers' statement may be hyperbolic, I don't think that hyperbole in itself makes it inaccurate.

[@tracesprite6078]

Jesus' most useful idea is that we should care about one another. We shouldn't nurse hatred or treat each other cruellly. Instead, we should put aside resentments and be courteous, positive and understanding where possible. We also shouldn't act superior: we have our faults just like other people do. We should avoid racism, snobbery and exploitation.

[@hidingbehind7256]

people forget that before jesus's time the world was completely savage and without any mercy. The world only started to get better after Jesus Christ

[@BoonTobias80]

​@@hidingbehind7256 An now, especially here in the US, things have devolved into madness. People who invoke Jesus but don't act ANYTHING like he would say.

[@user-wc5by1wz5h]

And remember to forgive your enemies. As I understand it, if you do not forgive (and repent ) , there will come a crucial time when G-d will never have known you.

[@ShippyJack]

​@@Girlfrom.n0wh3r3 I like to picture my Jesus in a tuxedo t- shirt.

[@petethefeet1461]

Tell that to any Ukrainian or anyone butchered for not believing

[@MariaScreamapova]

Picture of Ewan McGregor in the background was a awesome touch 😂😅🤣😁🙈

[@Nefville]

I worked with a Jesus from Guadalajara. He was an awesome guy, I'm pretty sure they're all real.

[@theskintexpat-themightygreegor]

I knew an Aquiles (Achilles) in Oaxaca. I had a crush on his girlfriend.

[@Zman44444]

I met a Gabriel at my university years back. While slightly an oddball, he was pretty solid on the trombone..? Trumpet? Can’t remember. But I know HE was real.

[@fbksfrank4]

My Jesus got hit by a car one day, deported the next.

[@jenniferbates2811]

My cousin? Yeah he's awesome.

[@arnulfo267]

Donald Trump doesn't like them.

[@lindenstromberg6859]

If Odin didn’t exist, then why aren’t there any frost giants?

[@isgamer-8732]

They melted one summer when they forgot to migrate back to the cold lands

[@lindenstromberg6859]

@@isgamer-8732 They must have been distracted. That sounds like Loki trickery :)

[@bsl275]

Because global warming has some positive effects.

[@chrisissick3147]

Exactly.

[@henryzellman]

This guy is asking the right questions.

[@badhollywoodscience]

To summarize, there's just as much evidence for supernatural jesus as there is for luke skywalker. Got it.

[@TheNewAtheists]

Amen 🙏🏻

[@AustinRoberts88]

I'm an atheist, but I also went to a Bible college and studied the original Greek and Hebrew. Super fascinating, and while I may not believe in a deity the evidence that Jesus was an actual human is impossible to ignore. Thanks for the incredibly well researched video!

[@benjalucian1515]

What are you considering evidence? I've read plenty of conjecture, but not seen any evidence.

[@stevilmeyers]

I've noticed the common theme with a lot of Atheist is they all believed until they studied the scriptures.

[@safs3098]

Yeah, I find it weird that people say Jesus didn't exist when there's literally a whole religion based on him. Like, there has to be a dude that inspired his followers which eventually created the religion. The question should be whether he did supernatural stuff, not whether he existed or not.

[@benjalucian1515]

@@safs3098 Nah, religions can start without someone to inspire them.

[@safs3098]

@Benja Lucian but almost all religions we've got actual data on started with a charismatic leader, I can't even think of one where a group of people decided to create one around someone else. We've got proof that people in ancient times would embellish historical figures with made up stories, like Alexander the Great being the son of Zeus, or do you also believe Alexander didn't exist? We also got proof that cults form around charismatic leaders and the followers start to believe in his divinity, even in the 21th century this stuff happens. So if we go by the scientific method, the most likely hypothesis that science supports would the existence of Jesus as a cult leader that had stories made up about him by his followers later down the line to make him seem greater, all historical evidence regarding religions supports this hypothesis. So are you a man of science or faith? Because right now you're the one that believes he didn't exist.

[@Dempsey22000]

The neutral, respectful and professional way this was presented is refreshing, thank you

[@scambammer6102]

wasn't neutral. he started with the assumption jesus existed and deducted his argument from there.

[@-ThatMichaelGuy]

Not neutral, I'm certain Simon is Christian from this. There are a few inaccuracies that tend toward that bias unfortunately.

[@brenteverett2934]

Ya there's no neutrality in the mental gymnastics applied here to dance around the complete lack of evidence beyond anecdotes. The logical fallacies on display here are embarrassing....

[@TheGuiltsOfUs]

There is no merit in being neutral about an illusion. He never existed, end of story.

[@Veldtian1]

@@TheGuiltsOfUs Yet the servants of the opposer literally adore him openly and publicly and no one challenges them on their belief in his tangible reality.

[@Shane-zl9ry]

Jesus is real, he mows my lawn every two weeks. 😇🙌🏼

[@jakobmorningstar]

Praise him for his is you mow-ssiah

[@strawberriesstar]

​@@jakobmorningstarThe way the truth and the life, as well as the grass, the flowers and the lawn

[@Jukeboxxxz]

😂

[@Alpz07]

​@jakobmorningstar hahahaha

[@cjadrien]

I’m very surprised by the claim “historians” have a consensus that Jesus existed. I’d like to see some kind of survey rather than just take one historian’s opinion. Jesus’ existence is highly problematic. I study the Viking Age, in which we have several figures that are legendary, semi-legendary, and historical. What separates them isn’t just the volume and veracity of the sources that mentioned them, it’s the cross-referencing of sources that overlap. The more they’re cross-referenced, the more likely they existed. For example, Ragnar Lothbrok is considered semi-legendary because while his deeds are well attested in the sagas, the sagas are not a reliable source (they were written centuries later, not unlike the New Testament for Jesus). Other disparate sources [may] mention him, but those, too, are contested, much like the sources evoked in this video for Jesus. So here’s where I find it odd that there’s a supposed consensus that Jesus existed, because no historian worth his salt would claim that Ragnar Lothbrok was a real person. One or several people may have inspired the tales of his deeds, but he’s understood to be legendary, more like Robin Hood or Arthur. Further, modern studies of religions and mythologies have found a suspicious alignment between Jesus’ story and the standard hero’s journey, so much so that the psychologist C.G. Jung even claimed that there is no better example of individuation in world mythologies than the story of Jesus. It’s obvious the story follows a formula taken from earlier mythologies. As mentioned in the video, Jesus was indeed a common name at the time, and someone may have even inspired the story, or multiple people, but is it prudent to say THE Jesus existed without a doubt? I think not. Dos it diminish the value of Jesus’ story? No, because the point isn’t if he existed or not, it’s the lessons we can learn about ourselves and how to live that matter.

[@druidriley3163]

Good post.

[@tspfab7309]

There's even a stone found from the time of that. Google Alexamenos Graffito

[@JamesIdentity]

This is cope. We have several accounts of Jesus life and works and none contradicting or saying he didn‘t exist. Furthermore none of the gospels were written in the genre of mythology. Jungs claims 1900 years later are irrelevant to the point. And you will get laughed out of any room of NT Scholars if you wanna claim that Jesus was some mythological figure. This is regardless of if the Scholar is Christian/Atheist whatever. Jesus is more well attested to both by intrinsic and extrinsic evidence than most figures of antiquity.

[@LemonbreadSC]

​@@JamesIdentity sorry but you used the word cope and immediately I lost all interest in your opinion.

[@JamesIdentity]

@@LemonbreadSC gigacope

[@thegood9]

Love the Ewan McGregor as Ben Kenobi as Jesus photo in the lead intro, lol.

[@BFKAnthony817]

MANY unsuspecting grandmothers bought pictures of him and thought it was a Jesus portrait.

[@rickitynick4463]

@@BFKAnthony817 Both my aunts have his picture up on the wall as Jesus. I asked one about it and she winked at me. I think they just like looking at Ewan, honestly.

[@pedrodmnmartins]

I mean, have you ever seen them in the same room together?

[@marcbiff2192]

I would like him to do the same to Mohamed.

[@apizzathatgiantforthesimpl5191]

Which is ironic considering Ewan McGregor actually did play Jesus in a movie.

[@heronimousbrapson863]

Pontius Pilate may have existed, but it's extremely unlikely that he ever said he would welease wodger.....

[@catladyfromky4142]

"He has a sister, you know. Inconnintia. Inconnintia Buttocks."

[@SonsOfLorgar]

But what about Wodewick?

[@HasanUnknown]

Islam is the religion who makes us to Believe in Jesus, We Muslims 100% Believes in Jesus, We Muslims Believes that Jesus is the Christ, We Muslims Believes that Jesus will Come Again to this World, Jesus did Miracles by the Permission of Allah, Jesus himself Never said “Im God” also Never he said anyone to “Worship Me” Jesus was Just a Prophet and Messenger Of Allah Only to Guide The People of Israel, ----------------------- *Jesus Denies Being God* | Read ⬇️ ----------------------- "My Father is greater than me." [John 14:28] “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to My God and your God.” [John 20:17] “Jesus said: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” [Mark 12:29] “Jesus, Fell with his face to the ground and Prayed.” [Matthew 26:39] “Jesus said, “My teaching is not my own, It comes from the one who has sent me.” [John 7:16] “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father who has sent me." [John 5:30] “The crowd answered, This is Jesus, the Prophet.” [Matthew 21:10-11] --------------------- *The Coming Of Prophet Muhammad In Bible* --------------------- “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When he the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come, He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you.” [John 16:12-14] --------------------- *Allah Clears About Jesus* --------------------- [Quran:- 5:72]:- “Jesus has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." [Quran:- 19:30]:- “Jesus has said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet.” [Quran:- 4:171]:- “Christ Jesus the son of Mary was no more than a messenger of Allah, So believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: --------------------

[@austinsmith3011]

@@HasanUnknown "Islam is the religion who makes us to Believe in Jesus, " So Christianity as a religion does not make one believe in Jesus? Your use of the word "the" as opposed to the word "a" means Islam is the only religion that makes one believe in Jesus. Still, yes if Jesus never existed this is solid evidence that both Christianity and Islam are false. Both Christianity and Islam claiming he did.

[@adhitripras8945]

Biggus ...

[@joedyhicks9415]

Wow !! Very interesting video and I am loving the comments. Now for the next video - is there any evidence that there is a god ?

[@musicfanatici]

So all 'scientists' agree but there is no hard evidence. That are the kind of scientist we need! And yes, the earth is flat.

[@schindlersredemption]

As jesus said, "only a sith deals in absolutes"

[@lunarmodule6419]

If god came down to earth we would absolutely know it - no doubt. But he didn't...

[@vaterunser3879]

he also said "even the smallest person can change the course of the history" So maybe he suffered from dwarfism? Just asking questions here

[@gunnshell]

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 dude that was hilarious!

[@brendankirbyacoustics]

It’s 3:30 am and I’m laughing so hard now bc of this comment 😂

[@GoDodgers1]

@@lunarmodule6419 Really? How do YOU know? Did you even bother to read the New Testament? And if you ever did, would you lean on your own interpretation?

[@SavageJunky]

"You talk to God, you’re religious; God talks to you, you’re psychotic.” - House MD

[@deanne1671]

Touche!!! Hahaha

[@GalactusOG]

House was a drug addict.

[@SavageJunky]

@@GalactusOG So? This quote is still perfect!

[@kingofnara]

@@GalactusOG He was TV character with writers who were probably also on drugs but sober for the most part

[@SavageJunky]

@@GalactusOG Ad Hominem: "This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument."

[@alexkilgour1328]

I am an Atheist. When I was in school, I did a double major in Classical Studies and Religious Studies, so am well educated in both the time period as well as the topic. Did Jesus exist? There's a very high likelihood that he did. My favourite argument against the Mythicist position was put forth by Christopher Hitchens, that the New Testament writers went to such extreme lengths to have Jesus of Nazareth be born in Bethlehem, to fulfill prophecies, that if you were creating a fictional character from whole cloth, it would have just been easier to create Jesus of Bethlehem. That said, your comparison with Socrates as a way of suggesting that we have as good an idea of what Jesus said as what Socrates said is erroneous. None of the writers of any book in the NT actually met or knew Jesus. Paul is the earliest writer, and apparently met Peter and James. So he is at the "friend of a friend" level, 30 years after Jesus' death. Plato was Socrates' student. He not only met Socrates, he knew him very well and studied at his feet, so to speak. There is a clear distinction in level of familiarity and access between the two situations.

[@druidriley3163]

*that the New Testament writers went to such extreme lengths to have Jesus of Nazareth be born in Bethlehem, to fulfill prophecies, that if you were creating a fictional character from whole cloth, it would have just been easier to create Jesus of Bethlehem* This is a good argument except for 2 things. Of the 4 gospels, only two of them say Jesus was born in Bethlehem. The other two gospels don't consider where Jesus was born to be important enough to write about it, meaning you didn't need to fulfill all the prophecies to be written of as a messiah figure.

[@philsphan4414]

The problem is that a lot of people think there are only 2 ways to look at the Bible, it’s all true or it’s all false. When it comes to the Jesus of history, the Biblical sources should be treated like any other ancient source. Paul thought he was writing a letter when he wrote Galatians, not a text of which every jot and tittle is God’s holy unchangeable word. So in addition to the whole dance making him from Bethlehem, you need to explain why in Galatians Paul writes about meeting a chief follower of Jesus (Peter) and his brother (James) and say he doesn’t agree with them. You also need to deal with the Crucifixion, which made the earliest Christians very uncomfortable. Why not make up a guy who wasn’t crucified? As to miracles, well I see guys on TV performing “miracles” every day. So if there are folks believing in miracle workers today, 2000 years ago is a snap. So the academic consensus is yes there was a real guy. He had a reputation as a miracle worker (so does Peter Popoff) he pissed off the powers that be in the Temple cleansing and they executed him.

[@druidriley3163]

@@philsphan4414 *The problem is that a lot of people think there are only 2 ways to look at the Bible, it’s all true or it’s all false* Makes sense though. Because if you can admit and doubt one part of the bible as allegory or metaphor, where do you stop? The whole bible could be that. *When it comes to the Jesus of history, the Biblical sources should be treated like any other ancient source* HIstorians do. And dismiss them as sources. They're not contemporary, they're anonymous, none of them say they're writing eyewitness accounts, or even histories or biographies. They say they're writing theology. *Paul thought he was writing a letter when he wrote Galatians, not a text of which every jot and tittle is God’s holy unchangeable word* Exactly. He wasn't writing dogma or scripture. *you need to explain why in Galatians Paul writes about meeting a chief follower of Jesus (Peter) and his brother (James) and say he doesn’t agree with them* Exactly. If they were the apostles of Jesus, _handpicked by the son of god himself_ why wouldn't Paul just fall at their feet and devote himself to spreading their teachings? Instead, he dismisses their teachings, calls t hem nobodies and that he's not going to let them affect his teachings. IOW, he treats them as no different than himself -- a street preacher. *You also need to deal with the Crucifixion, which made the earliest Christians very uncomfortable. Why not make up a guy who wasn’t crucified* If they were embarrassed about it, they had plenty of time to change the story. But they didn't, so this did not embarrass them, obviously, especially when they could tie it into writings about how _that was supposed to happen_ *So the academic consensus is yes there was a real guy* So there is no academic consensus. They're divided among those who think he existed, but didn't do anything the bible says he did, which then moots the point of his existence and those who say he's mythical.

[@GradertJ]

The followers of Jesus did in fact write much of the new Testament. They also went on after Jesus was crucified and resurrected to spread the Gospel as far as they could. All but one "John" were themselves killed for spreading the gospel.

[@druidriley3163]

@@GradertJ *The followers of Jesus did in fact write much of the new Testament* Sure, but they weren't the apostles. Just some mostly anonymous people writing stories about Jesus long after anyone who might have known a real Jesus was dead. *They also went on after Jesus was crucified and resurrected* Unproven claim *to spread the Gospel* There wasn't any bible until the 4th century and later. Before then, there were just collections of stories floating around. *All but one "John" were themselves killed for spreading the gospel* The apostles from the Jesus story drop off the map outside the bible. No one ever mentions them again except in church tradition. There is no documentation they ever existed.

[@QuaranteQuatre44]

Hey dude, this sounds like a wonderful opportunity to set up a debate with richard carrier and bart ehrman (sp?--sorry im multitasking and cant research or spellcheck rn, best wishes all)

[@IWasLeft2Die]

To preface, yeah im a Christian but Bart ehrman is probably one of the least persuasive critics of Christianity. There's a reason most critics of the Bible don't use him but more often use folks like Richard Dawkins instead lol. I took a college course based around a Bart ehrman textbook and it had super weak arguments lol. His critiques were very weak (such as arguing that Paul couldn't have written some of the new testament books accredited to him because the writing style was different in parts of it although it was common to write differently to different audiences). I'd look elsewhere for a good debate tbh

[@EpioN]

Erhman is a hack.

[@IWasLeft2Die]

@EpioN he really is...I don't hear a lot of people champion his work. I took a college course based around one of his books and it was terrible (poor logic, etc)

[@kevinmcqueenie7420]

One thing I thought might have got a mention… He was most likely called Joshua (well, Yeshua) which was then transliterated into Greek as Iesus (or something similar) then romanised into Jesus.

[@kenziedayne4234]

Yup. My Lord and Savior...Josh. 😄

[@andrewbrown7976]

@@kenziedayne4234 Josh is awesome

[@mish375]

Iesus was the Koine Greek translation of Yeshua. Since the New Testament was written in Koine Greek, this change would make sense. It also explains how and why some names were changed due to translation: Matthew's Hebrew name was Levi, for instance.

[@unicornkitteh5332]

I grew up in a catholic family- went to church every Sunday, got baptized and did all the things all the way through confirmation. Not once in my life did I ever hear of "Yeshua", and other variations, until maybe a couple years ago. Im very confused about this. I no longer buy into the Catholic religion and don't go to church anymore... I won't get into it but it still sort of irks me how I never heard this name before and all of the sudden, I see it everywhere. Same with Yahweh.... why are there so many variations of his name? To me, that seems very odd. I feel like I stumbled into an alternate timeline tbh.

[@simplyintricate4160]

@@unicornkitteh5332 More people are reaching higher levels of education. Every day people are gaining the ability to study the evidence and learn the facts, compared to just being in control of a select few in the past. As a result more and more translations and evidence will likely be found for all sorts of things. :)

[@someguy4131]

I had no idea that Jesus looked so much like Obi-Wan Kenobi

[@Toastrackman]

The force is with him lol

[@darkmyro]

To be fair, Jesus does look like a Jedi lol

[@erichanson3369]

@@darkmyro The joke is on all of us... Ewan McGregor is actually Jesus in His "second-coming". McGregor's most parasocial fans have been worshipping the true God of the universe all along.

[@adrianb2232]

his facial features come from the son if a pope called cesare borgia or something like that

[@sirtimothy92]

He did have the high ground

[@daklord]

you would be surprised how many "intellectuals" love to claim that Jesus the man (not even talking about the claims of deity) did not exist.

[@James-cp9uh]

Because he did...did you watch the video?

[@daklord]

@@James-cp9uh oops sry, i must have been dead that day. I meant to write they claim he did not exist 😂

[@James-cp9uh]

@@daklord Oh no worries, in hindsight I didn't really need to write my comment either. Have a great day!

[@carlacook5181]

Thank you Simon, this was very interesting. Have a good weekend, do something fun with your family.

[@MisterCuddlez]

I absolutely love how y'all kept using a picture of Obi-Wan.

[@kakalit6253]

Ewan McGregor would be proud

[@anthonyelledge7475]

I mean, that is close to a lot of the paintings of jesus in churches... which is insane.

[@james7133]

That was definitly Obiwan. Do you think that was intentional?

[@Nefylym]

Came here to say exactly that lol

[@cortexza7165]

Hello there.

[@frankowalker4662]

"He's not the Messiah, He's a very naughty boy !" - Brian's mum.

[@tthings6686]

"Piss off!" - Also Brian's mum

[@danielshannon6027]

Monty Python is God.

[@frankowalker4662]

@@tthings6686 LOL

[@frankowalker4662]

@@danielshannon6027 Have you seen: Not the Nine O'Clock News - Monty Pythons worshipers on KZbin ?

[@thedog7494]

British """humor"""

[@williamlong9090]

Artifact: The shroud of Turin.🙂

[@druidriley3163]

Fake. Even the Vatican won't say it's authentic.

[@ososkid]

I was a lot more open to hearing the guy out, until he said not accepting his existence is the same as the denial of global warming

[@rinima858]

I love how Simon acknowledges the fact that people find it funny that he runs so many channels and he made a joke about it with AI

[@bmunson4920]

When his videos show him with 6 fingers, we will know it’s true!

[@karltuinukaufe850]

faxxxxx🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@ScratchinAway]

thats funny cuz i had no idea he had multiple channels…when i saw the thumbnail i thoyght i was clicking a video by tbe only channel i knew of his-Thoughty 2. tho i assumed there was a Thoughty 1 or just Thoughty, never knew there were more

[@togiielectricboogaloo6875]

​@@ScratchinAwayhe doesnt run thoughty2 though

[@user-oz2ys1ow4y]

I’m still discovering them and I love it

[@shaner2114]

"I'm sure this is going to be a lovely comment section" "Obi wan Kenobi"

[@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution]

Yeah it is going to bring out the monsters for sure, for there is absolutely no way they can even entertain the existence of someone who has more than twice the brains and balls they do.

[@Sephiroth144]

OB1 Kenobi

[@SmilingCupcakes-up6lw]

I have the high ground satan

[@dannycarlow8204]

Obi wan was far more powerful than Jesus. Jesus can't even force ghost someone like Ben did so we could know what he looks like at the very least? Jesus' powers are weak.

[@randomcommenter3202]

Its like this, people dont believe Bruce Lee did the things he did and swear he was just an actor.. Even though there were eye witnesses

[@danielderrick7383]

Thats fucking obi wan kenobi

[@joesteele3159]

I've never seen Jesus or Obi-Wan Kenobi in the same room together. Coincidence? I think not

[@jerrybanuelos2967]

I think you’re on to something 🤔

[@leemacpeek2698]

Have you ever seen Obi-Wan at all. If you have i doubt your existence.

[@jkh2180]

Wait 😮

[@kerrynicholls6683]

@@leemacpeek2698 I have, I spoke to him. He was really interested in weird al song parody of America pie, the saga begins.

[@64HomeMade]

😂😂

[@ChadSparkes]

I think the important point here is not whether he existed, but whether the stories about him are true. As you said, the name was fairly common, and given the political situation the existence of a rebellious preacher is not an extraordinary claim. But if he couldn't heal the sick with a touch and a prayer, multiply a picnic basket to feed a mob, and recover from being tortured to death, then the biblical character is still a fiction. Those are the claims that demand more rigorous examination.

[@hallvardpaulsen]

Exactly! If there was a carpenter son walking around in Palestine (with or without a some followers) talking about the end of the world, who cares! All the commonly quoted stories are obviously not historically correct.

[@Trebor74]

If he brought them into a new religion that promised everlasting life instead of a religion that taught death was the end then he figuratively raised them from the dead. It's a similar theme to "amazing grace","was blind but now I see" etc

[@MariaMartinez-researcher]

Actually, Jesus's historicity is a main point. That's the reason of this video, to start with. Most critiques of Christianity start with the understanding that everything miraculous the gospels say is ""obviously"" fictitious, therefore the guy didn't exist. Your position goes right by that alley. How could we possibly prove that anything supernatural the gospels say actually happened? We can't, therefore the guy didn't exist. But, proving the historicity of the guy poses the most interesting questions. Why his contemporaries, people who met and followed him, were willing to tell everyone that the guy did these and those things - to the point of getting executed because they didn't stop telling those things? (Yep, most apostles and many disciples were killed for their activities). And that's the good question. We cannot travel in time to witness what Jesus actually did, but we can read the historical accounts of Christianity's development to know what people who knew him believed. Ever heard of Patristics?

[@Drakemiser]

You can answer this question with secular scholarship. There are a few writings about Jesus-Josephus being one-that say Jesus did do miracles by demon magic, or some sort of black magic. Paul can be counted as a skeptic as well, seeing as he was first a Romanized Jew who killed Christians. Basically, you take writings from people who were not fans of the person you are trying to learn about to learn the truth. Some wrote about miracles. Some wrote about a resurrection. The point is the claims the Bible makes are made much more probable by its enemies. No other person in history has been written about like Jesus was.

[@ChadSparkes]

There have been plenty of historical figures willing to martyr themselves for a cause, whether it be a righteous rebellion or a personal psychosis. The fact that this one particular cult lingered long enough to become powerful doesn't make one martyr special. Historians can accept the existence of a man as true based on records of the time because that's not unusual, a rebellious preacher being murder for his beliefs is a thing that has happened many times, and in no way violates our understanding of the universe. Magic spells are something entirely different, they make the story fictional - unless you want to claim the story is true, in which case you need to prove the magic is at least possible.

[@stephensands3485]

I’m kindof mind blown that the historical fact of Jesus’s existence isn’t more well-known. Until watching this video I had assumed that there was scant evidence outside of the Bible that Jesus existed (which makes it much easier to just assume the whole Bible is a made up story that you either believe in or don’t). I’m sitting here in shock that none of my teachers in school or anyone else ever deigned to mention this (likely because they, too, were unaware). Thanks for making this!

[@arcticpangolin3090]

Well the fact is that the evidence outside the bible for Jesus’s existence is quite scant, it’s just you don’t require much evidence to support the claim “a man lived” as this is a very mundane claim.

[@itsfqndave]

Dr. Myers: "Those who deny the existence of Jesus, are like the deniers of climate change" Comment section: "but, but ... climate change IS real!" 😂😂😂

[@douglascutler1037]

Lot's of conservative Christians are climate deniers. What if they get to the gates of heaven only to learn man-made climate change was real after all? And God has a few questions for them.

[@markloeffler85]

It would be fun to see videos like this on other major religious figures. Especially from religions that weren't common in Europe. In America, at least where I was, history classes growing up had woefully incomplete coverage of anything that wasn't Europe. Especially anything related to religions, outside of when they came into existence.

[@kain0067]

Yeah right, like anyone would do Mohammad.

[@darrennew8211]

I don't know that would be particularly interesting. Most other religious leaders were just people, while Jesus was supposed to be a magical god. And of course even if you had excellent evidence of particular religious figures, and that the stories referred to a particular person, you'd then need to find evidence of the actual miracles that they performed, which is unlikely if you're even questioning their existence. Especially since we have copious evidence of living people today capable of doing all kinds of religious miracles in front of thousands or millions of people who nevertheless are seen as fraudsters.

[@hermitcard4494]

Watch this channel called Esoterica 👍

[@nilus2k]

@@kain0067 The historical proof that Muhammad existed is undeniable. The difference is Jesus died just another Jewish peasant with a small fan base where Muhammad had a nation of people following him at the end. He was huge political force.

[@DarkZodiacZZ]

@@kain0067 Personally I'm curious if the M from the beginning is the same person as the M in the end.

[@1leadvocal]

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." -Upton Sinclair

[@blarestew2675]

It's wild.. We have lived in this academic dark age with the Vatican controlling information for over a thousand years... Academies would actively discourage people from even questioning by taking away their jobs.. Dude then sits here with "well.. Academia says.." basically over and over as if appealing to authority isn't a logical fallacy.

[@tianna1116]

Excellent quote, I wonder what the context was

[@ragnarok67]

This applies to popular atheist speakers who try to disprove god

[@1leadvocal]

@@ragnarok67 You are the one making the claim it exists, it's on you to bring forth the evidence. Make sure you use citations. Other than that, I agree with your statement.

[@brianfox771]

@@tianna1116 Pretty sure they are alluding to the current scholarly consensus. Their paychecks depend on saying Jesus was historical even with the complete lack of evidence. All they have really is the New Testament and it has some serious issues. The biggest one being from the start it is arguing for and describing a supernatural being doing supernatural things, not a regular person doing regular things for his time. When you throw out all the supernatural stuff about Jesus in the NT your left with basically nothing. How do you rationally extrapolate a real person from that?

[@DeniseCoelhoEnglishForLife]

He did. But imagine being a grown ass person believing all the magical bs around him

[@DoreenHamdler]

Why do you assert that he did? And there are no other references to any other Jesus other than the miracle performing Jesus of biblical lore

[@Nozinbonsai]

Sorry about the second coming, I thought she was the Avon lady and told her to get lost so you will have to wait for another 2000 years.

[@mikeharless4596]

"How the hell does he have all those KZbin channels?" 😂😂😂

[@pakde8002]

What? It's only 12 channels 😅

[@rgoodwinau]

Scarily close to omni-presence! 😂

[@umbraemilitos]

He only reads the scripts on camera and runs the business. Other people edit and write.

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

There are 11 different Simons from 11 parallel universes. I thought it was obvious. You can tell the huge personality difference between "Today I found Out" Simon and "Business Blaze" Simon.

[@ndld4955]

He's an Ai ..😏👍

[@Triadii]

Good to see that some people actually swiped past all the religious talk and went on the search for hard evidence.

[@andersandersen6295]

I have seen David Blaine replicate most of the "miracles" Jesus is claimed to have done, so my conclusion is that he was just a street magician fooling gullible people. It still works today.

[@mr.sniffles7268]

That's pretty much the entire world of new testament historical scholarship, at least from accredited universities like prinsten. Definitely worth reading up on it if you find this kind of discussion interesting

[@letsgobrandon1906]

KZbin isn’t hard evidence

[@dguy0386]

having found such hard evidence is then proof that backs up the validity of that "religious talk"

[@salsatheone]

@@letsgobrandon1906 he meant the scholars and academic sources mentioned in the video... Jesus Christ, learn to infer.

[@pkx_phant0m456]

I feel sorry for many in this comment section. Ill never understand why people feel THEY MUST BE CORRECT, and then they get angry and insult others for their belief in Jesus. Its sad to see really, i figured we were all adults here.

[@druidriley3163]

Adults don't believe in invisible fairies. Or a veritable Santa Claus "He knows if you've been naughty or nice..."

[@pkx_phant0m456]

@druidriley3163 I'm willing to bet your not a very self aware person.

[@druidriley3163]

@@pkx_phant0m456 *I'm willing to bet your not a very self aware person* You'd lose that bet. 😎

[@Michael_Bancroft]

Saying that 115AD is only "a few decades after Jesus' death" is akin to saying that the moon landing took place only a few decades after the Civil War.

[@Money-Theme]

That’s 100 years apart versus a few decades, but okay bud

[@benjalucian1515]

@@Money-Theme A few decades is more than one generation.

[@gulfcoasttreasurehunter9112]

Although I am now an Atheist, I was once a devout Christian and earned a master's degree in Christian Apologetics from a Baptist Seminary where I studied this topic extensively from both sides. I say all that to preface that this is EXTREMELY well researched and representative of the academic consensus on the existence of Jesus. Although I no longer believe in Christianity, I find it utterly appalling that I have to defend the existence of the historical figure of Jesus to other atheists who oppose it like it's some sort of evidence for the faith. The existence of Jesus does just as much to prove Christianity as the existence of Muhammad proves Islam or the existence of Barbara Streisand proves Judaism. Thank you for presenting a fair video on the topic that represents the historical data and academic consensus over the contemporary dribble of ignorant, reactionary atheists scared of the existence of a man who has been dead for two millenia.

[@flipflopski2951]

Which parts of the NT are historical?

[@steve2818]

Why would atheists be scared of a guy who never existed?

[@gulfcoasttreasurehunter9112]

​@@flipflopski2951 that's a long question to answer, but in short there are a few areas that really have historical relevance although not necessarily in the way Christians would hope for. I'm throwing this together off the top of my head so I may forget something to add in here. To give a quick(ish) answer, the four gospels can give us some basic information about Jesus that are accepted pretty much across the board by scholars: he was a first century Palestinian Jew who had disciples, he was killed by the Romans by crucifixion, etc. Its not necessarily that these were written by the people they are attributed to or close enough to the time of Jesus, but they seem to have common source materials that are lost to us today (referred to as "Q") that are much earlier. We find some historically relevant information in the Acts of the Apostles, but much of the text is drawn into question not only for its miraculous nature, but also for the fact it often differs with the letters Paul wrote on the same events it describes. As for Paul, he was a historical figure and did write a good chunk of the letters the Bible attributes to him. From those we can get early insight about early Christian beliefs (at least Paul's version), some historical framework of his time and life, and some of the challenges facing the Chriatian religion in its early years. That's a very basic survey if it. There are some great resources to dig deeper into these topics from some of the sources mentioned in this video. Dr. Bart Ehrman (who is a former Christian, now agnostic himself) has written a lot on both academic and more popular levels on some of these topics, and I would highly recommend his books to anyone wanting an accessible introduction to the historical Jesus and New Testament studies from a leading scholar.

[@gulfcoasttreasurehunter9112]

​@@flipflopski2951 and one other note, my answer assumed you meant historically representative of the events surrounding the life of Jesus and other events the Bible claims to portray. Technically all of the the texts give us "historical" information as they give us insights into the beliefs of Christian authors (some of whom wrote much later) about their beliefs, myths, and traditions. Many of these may not historical in the sense of being events that actually happened in history, but all of them are relevant for study. Take for example the writer of the Apocalypse of John. It may not have much value to studying the history of any events it discusses as it is heavily encoded with symbolism and apocalyptic language, but it can be studied as a historical example of reasonably early Christian apocalyptic literature. So, all of it has something to discover, just not often something to discover about the actual, historical person of Jesus.

[@milliondollarmistake]

Yeah it's weird. Especially since the existence of Jesus is virtually irrelevant to the idea of whether a god exists or not. If Jesus was a real person then he was just another human like everyone else, him being real doesn't automatically mean he was the son of god.

[@scovver9267]

The only reason i clicked on this video is for the comment section

[@robertrestivo]

That's true for _most_ videos.

[@davexenos9196]

me too

[@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution]

Why? It's not like you are going to learn anything from it.

[@AutumnBlessed]

Here's your popcorn 🍿

[@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution]

@@AutumnBlessed Here is your 2 second of attention badge 🔋

[@CarlyonProduction]

There are plenty of bio scholars who don’t think Jesus existed

[@TonyFontaine1988]

And they are fools

[@benjalucian1515]

@@TonyFontaine1988 Anytime you have evidence to prove them wrong, by all means present it.

[@hylomorpher]

What are bio scholars?

[@DjVortex-w]

The "criterion of embarrassment" is completely nonsensical. There are several problems trying to use such a concept as an argument in this context. For starters, the vast majority of hero myths in antiquity did not shy away from attributing flaws and defeat to the heroes in question. This very much applied to the stories of the scriptures, which the author(s) of the Gospels knew very well: Pious prophets and servants of God suffering at the hands of the enemies of God, martyring themselves. Your archetypal martyr story, which shows how wicked and evil the enemy is, and how the hero of the story suffers at their hands, even becoming a martyr. In the context of Jesus in particular, a martyr story, rather than a "conquering hero" story, would have made significantly more sense: For starters, the Romans were still in power, so everybody knew that there couldn't possibly have been some kind of Messiah who defeated the oppressors and liberated his people. Everybody could see it in their own very lives: The oppressors, the Romans, were still there, very much in power. Nobody had defeated them. Who would have believed a story of a Messiah who came and was victorious against them? Everybody could see with their own eyes that wasn't the case. A story of a Messiah who came and was martyred by the oppressors, somewhere in some city far away, like a century ago, is much more believable. There was very little reason for people not to believe it, when they were told the story with enough conviction. The writer(s) of the Gospels knew this perfectly well, and likewise knew perfectly well of the prophecies of the scriptures about a suffering Messiah who is martyred at the hands of the enemy. On top of that, what better story to tell when you want to rally people to raise up against the oppressors, the Romans? "Our Messiah came to save us, he was a great teacher, and the perfect Son of God, and he suffered and was martyred at the hands of our enemies, who ignominiously killed him, a completely innocent person who had done nothing wrong." This kind of story does not elicit embarrassment in the audience: It elicits empathy and anger. The entire concept of "criterion of embarrassment" is completely asinine and doesn't make any sense, especially in this particular context.

[@druidriley3163]

And if different teachings about Jesus were circulating before the gospels were written, and they were, Paul points this out in his letters, people had a chance and the time to write out anything they found embarrassing. So what ended up in the gospels they didn't find embarrassing.

[@TheMeritCoba]

Interesting take. Considering this a valid point, it would tie in with Christ defeating death. This not only would make him one who conquers, as foretold, but it would also hand his followers a very desirable victory: surviving death. And indeed, the criterion of embarrassment is a weak one: nobody would claim this because it is embarrassing; therefore, it must be true. It is exactly the conclusion they want you to reach.

[@thetruebatman4632]

I feel confident in saying that if I had you as my teacher growing up, u could’ve avoided a lifetime of ADHD medication. But as it were, I constantly have to rewind your videos for missed information because I get so distracted at how cartoonishly fluid and effortless and natural your lectures are. And I don’t mind it at all. Man am I glad that I found this channel.

[@joeterp5615]

Watch at 3/4 speed. Easier to pick up everything… and quite interestingly, at times he sounds like a southerner (US) at that speed lol!

[@thetruebatman4632]

@@joeterp5615 ha ha! That is a hilarious observation. I live here in Texas, born and raised, and I will definitely test your recommendation.

[@joeterp5615]

@@thetruebatman4632 He is one of the fastest talking KZbinrs out here, so if you like a more chill southern pace, you’ll enjoy the slower play back. Of course, it could also be said that he sounds just a little drunk at the slower speed lol! I grew up in Maryland… but my Dad’s from SC, and I’ve always been partial to the south myself.

[@bonzbeasty]

Came here to say that I have to watch at 3/4 the speed and sometimes playback at 1/2 speed just to be absolutely sure of certain words, lol. He still sounds british to me at every speed, not detecting the southern american accent at all😂

[@shellcross]

I read the comments while watching

[@andrewharper1609]

I didn't know Simon held Ewan MacGregor's portrayal of Obi-Wan Kenobi in such high regard.

[@caratomlinson3552]

😂

[@royalroyal2210]

Magnificent, aren't they?

[@adammcinnes5615]

I don't seriously doubt that the historical Jesus of Nazareth, also known as the Christ, did exist, but I do seriously question the accounts of his life. Of the four canonical Gospels, there are many contradictions and inconsistencies in the narratives (not to mention with the non-canonical gospels), and we can even see examples and evidence of editing that happened over time. We also know that these gospels were written long after Jesus' death (believed to be sometime after 70 CE for Mark and sometime after 90 CE for John, though the oldest fragments are from much later points). We also suspect that at least half of the Pauline epistles in the Bible are likely forgeries. The veracity of claims about who Jesus was, when he lived, and what he said that we now have recorded is questionable. Moreover, we can look to cults for information about human behaviour in relation to charismatic leaders. We can see how cult leaders can grow to messianic proportions in their own lifetime, let alone after their death. It's not hard to see how this could happen in the case of Jesus. So while I do not have serious doubts that Jesus of Nazareth did exist, I have very serious doubts as to the veracity of any claims that have been made about him.

[@katiebea9258]

And your consideration of Islam?? Please share your views, please.

[@Bob94390]

@@katiebea9258 The proofs for Muhammed are much stronger than the proofs for "Jesus". Muhammed is a less problematic character than "Jesus", since Muhammed is not supposed to be son of an invisible man. Muhammed supposedly rode to the Moon on a donkey while sleeping; it is easy to get the idea that this was only a dream, in strong contrast to the absurd, contradictory stories about "Jesus" copying "miracles" from the Greek and Roman gods.

[@katiebea9258]

@Bob94390 And the religion/faith you adhere to? And how has it benefited and improved your life and the lives of those around you?

[@rogerward801]

​@@katiebea9258Why is a religion necessary to have a good life?

[@katiebea9258]

@rogerward801 "conscience", directly translated, means "with knowledge" ... "Knowledge" that comes from where? Written upon the hearts of mankind by Whom? OF COURSE, people CAN have a good life outside of religion. In fact, Romans 2: 14 -16 is an excellent place to begin building your own answer to that question to stump Christians. You can add Scripture, pulled out of context, of course, to your arguments against "religion". However, ALL men are religious, as in, have a spiritual essence separate from the body (soul, if you like) that searches for a source of love. On another point; SOME "religions" are actually quite horrendous for both the practioner as well as those who must interact with the practices. Take, for example, the people in London who lived at peace with their neighbors for centuries and now have to be fearful of being knifed and rah aped by a VERY religious subculture that has taken over London. SAME issue in Norway and Sweden and now NYC, which is up 11% for rah ape since 2021. Read Colossians Chapter One so you realize, at least from my perspective, WHOSE face you are spitting in daily. Good Luck.

[@Indy44636]

Palentologist Historians Archeologist Me,friends ,family doubt it

[@DankTheGank]

So my Grandma was a Catholic Catholic, Church and Bible study twice a week. But I would always ask her questions about God and religion. And one day I came to the conclusion that Mother Mary (Jesus Mom) was probably just a young girl who probably just got knocked up and didn't know who the dad was or was ashamed of it happening. So I ask my Grandma and she was like, "yeah I could see that happening you can believe what you like. Just live a good life and treat others with kindness is all God asks of you." She would study the Bible but would always say "men wrote this not God." RiP RiP Granny...

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

I think it’s easier for a person that strives for knowledge to be a Christian or have faith once we realize the Bible is not inerrant. My mom believes in god and a higher power, but does look at the Bible critically for what it is. A collection of books written by men, not god.

[@Bicicletasaladas]

You are not the first person to explain it in that inappropiate way in 2000 years, you know? The issue is that the blessed Virgin Mary was a Jew. Jews think their God is a God infinitely above humans. He is no Zeus mingling with mortals. Also they had a very low tolerance for blasphemy. Even saying the name of God out loud is a big no-no for them. Blasphemy was punished by public stoning. If Mary had come to any fellow Jew, trying to suggest she got knocked up by their all mighty God, we would have no Jesus because she would have got stoned to death on the spot.

[@d-meth]

​@@Bicicletasaladas the story says that she did almost get stoned, Joseph saved her by claiming the child is his. If she wasn't at risk of getting stoned he probably wouldn't have forgiven the infidelity, they were engaged after all. Supposedly they moved because sex before marriage was frowned upon too.

[@carlfrye1566]

So did you lead a good life and treat others with kindness as granny said....as God wanted?

[@Junebugreen]

You had a very good Granny! That’s a good foundation.

[@hugmonger]

I love that Simon has finally acknowledged that he could very well be an AI image

[@gmailaccount642]

Scary to think we are in times where we question this

[@mitsurugi2651]

​@Gmail Account AI is creating more and more content online and becoming realistic enough to fool most people. there is no good outcome to this except to fight against it. I have no idea how that's supposed to be done though .

[@jbento1975]

Lol😅

[@fredwebsterjr-vl1qj]

If Simon is AI, he's a big improvement over Max Headroom.

[@mitsurugi2651]

@Fred Webster Jr different levels of shit, is still shit. how does this guy get people to get he's intelligent?

[@peterj5751]

More importantly, for the Monty Python fans, did Brian actually exist.

"I'm brian, and so is my wife"

[@lastchance8142]

Have to say, after watching and/or reading many critiques on this subject, that this is probably the most intelligent and inclusive treatment of the subject I've seen. Bravo!

he didn't critically assess any of the evidence. period. He just presented the "scholarly consensus" and not even that thoroughly.

[@tomsdottir]

For my money, Ludovic Kennedy's "All in the Mind: a Farewell to God" is still the best critical analysis.

[@saven355]

@@tomsdottir I think on the historicity of Jesus by carrier is prob the best critical research on the topic

[@tomsdottir]

@@saven355 Hey- thank you! I hadn't come across this before. Just had a look and I agree with you.

[@InaudibleHippo]

"Strike me down, and I shall become far more powerful than you can possibly imagine!" - Jesus Christ 😂

[@scionofdorn9101]

Still has to cheat at wrestling and can't beat iron chariots.

[@blacbraun]

It's funny. When I was a kid I saw Star Wars with my Dad. He was a very pious man and disliked even the depiction of Jesus in film thinking it as blasphemous. Yet he felt the religious zing of Star Wars and was impressed by it.

[@dustintacohands1107]

Lol but who Is Darth????

[@moonshoes11]

And the Lord said unto Luke; Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father….

[@OdariArt]

@@dustintacohands1107 The chosen one!

[@wam-yx1vs]

Jesus said he would rid the world of evil. Odin said he would rid the world of frost giants. I don’t see any frost giants!

[@dogwalker666]

Hail Odin!

[@cspace1234nz]

…you’re not looking hard enough !

[@ianhansen6840]

Visit Michigan.

[@JohnnyULives-lz1ml]

U.P.

[@mr.punkie5872]

Jesus will get rid of the world of evil… when he *comes* back.

[@Erborne1979]

Richard carrier does amazing work on him

[@sammyjones8279]

This comment section: 0.01% - Angry comments 99.99% - "Ohhhh these comments so spicy 🌶🔥"

[@Ash_Wen-li]

Nah 99.99% are about Obi-Wan

[@Rob17Cotton]

Literally nobody has commented that 😂😭🤣

[@jeffyart4410]

Please tell me you guys were intentionally trolling us with a picture of Obiwan for 30 seconds. lol XD

[@nosuchthing8]

April fools

[@pikaleaf8914]

I laughed out loud in the quiet break room at work just now.

[@lopedogcsgo6087]

Obiwan is jesus

[@timotheewilliams9086]

I was thinking the same thing, is that Ben Kenobi😂

[@Joe_Potts]

oh thank god you saw it too i thought i was losing it

[@ericlipps9459]

It wouldn't have been "Jesus" but something closer to "Joshua" before the Greeks and Romans stepped in.

[@BuzzRain]

Exactly. Jesus is the nearest English translation from Hebrew for Yoshua or Yeshua.

[@yndsu]

​@@BuzzRainno, Jesus is from the Greek transliteration Iēsous of the Hebrew name Yeshua that is Joshua in English.

[@therisashow]

I’m starting to think that maybe Jesus was such a common name, that Jesus was not a person, but a group of people, or an “idea” of a type of person. Just an idea. It makes sense that it was a bunch of “Jesuses” that spread the ideology so far and wide, and followers saying that they had seen him after his crucifixion. Of course you saw “Jesus”… just not the “Jesus” that was crucified last week 😬

[@romystumpy1197]

Load of old wives tales

[@yotaiji012]

Funny, how “older” religions like Greece, Rome, or Egypt are now myths.

[@jollyface5986]

Not really

[@jollyface5986]

Believing in those religions is closer to being an atheist than a Christian, since the gods are basically just humans with powers

[@druidriley3163]

@@jollyface5986 Isn't that Jesus? Human mother, god father, human with powers?

[@NotTrolling399]

You clearly don’t know what a myth is

[@Russo-Delenda-Est]

That's probably a big part of why they're myths, they're older. It takes a long time for a religion to branch and evolve into something new, or die off. Christianity is very young, and even "modern" Judaism is one of the later ones, give it 10,000 years, and people will take about Jesus the same way they talk about Marduk or Ra.

[@XDex91]

Simon, I want you to know that in less than 28 minutes, you have caused me to open my mind to a topic I had previously passed judgement upon. I learned more about this topic in 30 minutes than I have in 30 years.

[@anwaraisling]

The question remaining, how has this affected your past judgement?

[@JamesTTierce]

Ive been atheist most my life. Recently Ive found some solace in faith, but I believe the faith Ive found and the religion that often follows it is going to be full of individuals I do not have faith in. Theyre of questionable ethics and If I want to continue down this route, Ill have to work to either change them or Id have to wait for divine judgement. Not sure if Im willling to wait for that.

[@XDex91]

@@anwaraisling My previous judgement, based on articles I read 15-ish years ago, was that Jesus was either not a historical figure or that there was no evidence that anyone believed him to be the messiah during his lifetime. Articles I read at the time suggested that the first written evidence of Christianity occurred about a century later. Simon’s video seemed to blow that out of the water.

[@kevinouellette5316]

You haven't looked into much I can see.

[@jixxytrix1705]

@@XDex91 Check this out.... The Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel ('God with us') For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. These verses are from the book of Isaiah the prophet and were written 700 years before Jesus was born. Who is he talking about? Keep looking Dex. There's a treasure waiting for you at the end. 'Ask, seek, knock'

[@timange124]

Let’s get AI to gather all the internets information on Jesus and tell us once and for all! 😂

[@lkrnpk]

“Those who deny that Jesus exusted are like those whi deny climate change” Well many people who believe in Jesus deny climate change

[@franciscosustek7249]

They deny science, except when it suits their narrative...fine tuned hypocrisy

[@ricinro]

Climate change is something that is measured. There is no equivalence to Jesus's existence or more importantly his divinity. However, we have many examples of new religions that have succeeded based on the claims of a charismatic con man. So we know that humans are capable of inventing religion.

[@FT4Freedom]

Very nice that Christians usually don't worry about getting offended about such a subject. Let's do one on Mohammed. Go Simon!

[@darrenlawson4909]

Lol.....yeah sure 👍

[@d4mdcykey]

Obviously you are around a very different set of Christians than I am, they are not one homogeneous group.

[@allym2787]

Speaking as a Christian who was fascinated by this, I know dozens who would be incensed. I know more Muslims who wouldn't be offended.

[@ryanhamstra49]

@@d4mdcykey I mean, some do. But a lot less wear a C4 jacket over it. They tend to stick to verbal explosions.

[@bubbajones6907]

That will never happen as Simon is not a courageous person.

[@moonshoes11]

Whether a person named Clark Kent ever existed is rather mundane, unless you can demonstrate he was bullet proof and could fly.

[@uncletiggermclaren7592]

Of course you won't be able to prove that, what would be the POINT of his assuming the second persona, if he ever let any evidence be discovered of the first?. Given that no one EVER has turned up evidence, you would be wise not to notice anything . . . it might lead to "accidents" that were accompanied with corresponding Kent "alibis".

[@neutrino78x]

"Whether a person named Clark Kent ever existed is rather mundane unless you can demonstrate he was bullet proof and could fly." Yes, it is mundane and it separate. You can't say "it is impossible for men to be bullet proof and fly.....and therefore there was no such man." The second doesn't follow from the first logically. That some think Jesus was God Incarnate has no bearing on whether he existed as a man.

[@peterlewis2178]

The thing is, in the case of Jesus, his existence is far from mundane. He still garnered an impressive following and sparked a major world religion. It doesn't really matter if he had supernatural abilities, he's still an intriguing figure.

[@uncletiggermclaren7592]

@@neutrino78x . . . You LITERALLY can say "It is impossible for men to be bulletproof or fly unaided by technology, THEREFORE there was no such man" because it ABSOLUTELY follows that there was no such man as a bullet-proof flying man.

[@uncletiggermclaren7592]

@@peterlewis2178 You don't understand the word mundane. It doesn't mean "Not effective" or "not famous" or "Not intriguing". It means OF THE WORLD, that is what it means. Of the world means "Is not supernatural or metaphysical". His existence, religious following and all, is and was PERFECTLY mundane . . . because there is NOTHING in all of existence, that is supernatural. Every. Single. Thing. is NATURAL and explicable by Science.

[@jesse2535]

My personal lore head cannon is that the mythological Jesus is a combined figure of multiple people from the time by the same or similar name similar to how King Arthur might have been.

[@arcticpangolin3090]

It’s conceivable, plenty of apocalyptic preachers were around at that time.

[@malcolmgrant2197]

So the book compiled literally centuries later to prove that Jesus existed proves that he existed.

[@michaelcope856]

Given that he's been in more KZbin content than anyone could watch in an entire lifetime, I'm not sure Simon Whistler exists.

[@misiu9049]

Im sure he doesn't know what he is talking about in half of this videos.

[@TheDancerMacabre]

​@@misiu9049that's the point. He has a team of writers and he reads the scripts. He's the face of several channels because of his voice and his delivery. But that's like saying "I bet Alex Trebek didn't even know the answers to all the questions on Jeopardy" It's not Alex's job to know! It's his job to host

[@misiu9049]

@@TheDancerMacabre That is why I don't like this channels.

[@BMichaelGalloway]

😅😅

[@Yourmomma92]

@@misiu9049he will literally say that it’s in his eyes out his mouth and normally not thought of again. It’s the point of a team of writers🤦🏻‍♀️

[@jonrmartin]

I'm so used to watching Brain Blaze that I forgot how calm and scary Simon can be when he's not all fired up from torturing Danny and Sam in his basement. Allegedly.

[@jimwilliams6044]

Cocaine

[@WordofGod-gs5pp]

Jesus Christ has already arrived on earth. Walking around and talking to people. He lives on the east coast with his family. Drives around in a Hell Cat red eye . Extremely handsome and the strength of Hercules. The wisdom of Solomon. What I say is the truth just don’t piss him off …. He has a temper like MOSES .

[@kyek9]

Jesus existed in the same universe Obi-Wan existed.

[@druidriley3163]

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

[@kyek9]

@@druidriley3163 Hahahha right.

[@ZagMaster_]

My favorite biblical story is charpter three of revenge of the sith when Jesus says his famous line, "I have the high ground!"

[@Luziferne]

Give it a few hundred years and another dark ages with the downfall of civilization, then Jesus was using a lightsaber to defend the galaxy of judea against Darth S'tan and his evil Sith

[@kevlar8242]

@@Luziferne & @Flying_Knife I tell you both that I myself used to be just as cunning and think of myself as wise to think up things like this.. But there comes a time when you figure out you are not wise at all.. and you submit to the Higher power. I tell you this out of Love. Don’t you think the enemies trick (if you choose to believe in spiritual) would be wiser than you & I. That you’re dealing with an ancient evil.. And that enemy would use man. It would use man to create these plots of movies, & characters, & comic book super heroes.. Just to make it easier for you to dismiss an actual historical figure. It is so easy for the enemy now. Because we submit our mind & our time to it. Filling our minds with garbage.. What other story.. even if the character is “made up” can you say is greater than Jesus. The Son of God. What other character Ever, made by mankind. Has ever even come close to the great things He has done. And, be a sinless human being.. even if you think he is made up. I could go on & on of what I’ve found. But it will do you no good. As we all find Him in our own way, and only through our own seeking.. You will find God has already written in your hearts.. He never denies us.. It is only us, who deny Him.. 🤲 I submit and love you my friends..

[@markzuckergecko621]

Jesus is definitely real, he fixed my air conditioning the other day. And his cousin Reynaldo fixed my toilet a few weeks before that. Good people.

[@normkeller2405]

That's not the right Jesus! Those two didn't play professional baseball, heretic!

[@Panama_Red]

I never met Jesus but his brother Craig was a blast.

[@Hykje]

Yes, let us all worship Obi-wan Kenobi of Nazareth.

[@thetinfoilfreak]

Better than the actual one

[@jeffnichols5841]

And the padawans shall inherit the earth.

[@josvercaemer264]

Well hello there😂

[@ccooper8785]

"Short answer "Yes" with an "if", Long answer "No" with a "but" " - Rev Lovejoy

[@highpricedkid28]

Anyone else click on this solely excited for the comments?😂

[@canbest7668]

Me!