BASS Says (We are done with Co Anglers)

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Todd Castledine Fishing

Todd Castledine Fishing

Күн бұрын

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@lgarcia831
@lgarcia831 Күн бұрын
I've fished 136 BFLs in twenty years as a co-angler and I don't believe there should be co-anglers in semi-pro and pro circuits (Elites, Opens, BPT, Invitationals, Toyota Series or NPFL). Keep them in grassroot circuits like the BFLs and ABA America Fishing Tour. BASS and MLF should consider having team tournaments where the co can control the trolling motor and fish anywhere in the boat. The team would work together and not hinder each other. Also, the circuits would have that revenue. My two cents.
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
I could see that
@ernestcoleman4672
@ernestcoleman4672 Күн бұрын
When a boater says that the non-boater is catching his fish. He's dumb ass hell. And they do say it.
@richardpace5809
@richardpace5809 Күн бұрын
Yup, had that happen to me. I was like what?. Then when we got back to the dock , my fish were floating. Revived 4 of them, 1 died . Cost me $ and a piece of hardware. Following year was fishing a regional and got completely backended the entire day. Bought a boat the following spring and never fished as a co again. It's just not worth the grief.
@ernestcoleman4672
@ernestcoleman4672 Күн бұрын
@richardpace5809 When a boater worries about a nonboater cat hing more fish than he does. He himself questioned his own fishing skills. He gets to fish the best spots first as long as he likes. The nonboater Ain't the problem. A lot of time, it's the boater.
@jasonmitchell8211
@jasonmitchell8211 Күн бұрын
Did you actually listen to this video?
@russb296
@russb296 Күн бұрын
@@ernestcoleman4672 I had a boater catch his 5th fish and immediately pull the trolling motor..I said what ya doing(I had 3 fish at the time). I'd like to fill my limit...The boater said I need these fish for tomorrow so unless you're paying my entry fee we are leaving....That along with ffs is why it was my last tournament as a Co
@mattwfishing
@mattwfishing 3 сағат бұрын
@@russb296can’t say I blame the boater. Considering he’s the one who paid 2x entry, spent days finding the fish, towed the boat all the way up there to fish the tournament, and he Prob wants to get back to the ramp area early. If he completely stopped fishing than that’s one thing. But even than. His boat his rules
@cuivre2004
@cuivre2004 Күн бұрын
I prefer to fish sole and make my own decisions 100% with no 'dock talk'. That is why the various kayak tournament series are more suited for me- plus it plays into my style of fishing-slow and thorough. BASS using COVID as an excuse was laughable. They will evolve away from FFS eventually if the 'death by a thousand cuts' continues.
@darrelllarose5584
@darrelllarose5584 Күн бұрын
Love your videos, always informative. I've fished as a co angler many times. Some with great boaters and some not so great. So got my own boat, now at 74 I still fish club and some draws. I take them as they come.
@Mjones8383
@Mjones8383 Күн бұрын
I personally think it's a good move, the opens are for the guys who want to go foward to the Elites or they are lake specific guys who think they can win. There are very few actually fishing to go to the classic. Co anglers really have no where to go so why are they there? For the co anglers that just want to fish , go fish the BFLs or the nation. You want to learn from the pro anglers, watch youtube, 90% have a channel
@ericahlstrom9506
@ericahlstrom9506 Күн бұрын
I think KZbin has been the biggest impact on coanglers numbers going down. You used to have to be a co to learn what the top anglers were doing. Now you just watch KZbin and you can see what all the top guys did.
@DLPfishing
@DLPfishing Күн бұрын
Can’t disagree with you
@johnmango6056
@johnmango6056 Күн бұрын
Great point
@kevinbeaudean704
@kevinbeaudean704 Күн бұрын
Between bed fishing and FFS, I won't miss yall.
@josheddy6905
@josheddy6905 Күн бұрын
CoAnglers in a qualifying type circuit was dumb. The Pros in these tournaments are trying to make this a career, they shouldn’t have to worry about a coangler. Now there does seem to be an opportunity for a circuit like the National Walleye Tour that uses combine co and pro weights for a cumulative boat total that both angler carry to the next day. This provides value for both pro and co.
@donkimmel9375
@donkimmel9375 Күн бұрын
The Toyota's are Advertised as a option for Triple-A Fishing. The five divisions feature reasonable travel and great fisheries, so there’s an option for just about everyone looking to get in on the action, be it on the pro side or as a *Strike King co-angler*.
@ccavanna1
@ccavanna1 Күн бұрын
I bought a modified FFS ice fishing portable unit for my wife to use on the back deck when we went fishing (she didn't like fishing on front deck with me). I was going to actually start to let my co angler use it, but then they limited transducers. Hard to keep up with this stuff...
@josephphillips590
@josephphillips590 Күн бұрын
The fact that people own spots is like Karen saying you can't fish my dock.😂😂😂
@timg185
@timg185 Күн бұрын
@@josephphillips590 it’s just bad educate to fish spots another guy showed you . Especially a week after they showed it to you.
@gtuck147
@gtuck147 Күн бұрын
Fished as a co in opens last year. Caught them good enough behind a scoper. Glad I did. It was a great experience. Had a blast fishing new places. I do not think scoping has anything to do with it.
@tobywonkinoby8916
@tobywonkinoby8916 20 сағат бұрын
10:15 what do you mean by this? They came back in their own boat?
@jamescoale2833
@jamescoale2833 Күн бұрын
Unfortunately, by eliminating co-anglers, BASS Will lose boat sponsorship. You need co anglers to develop to buy boats and push the industry forward in that area. They also will be purchasing more tackle and push the industry forward in that area. This is a pretty grievous error on the part of BASS And I’m not saying this lightly because I am a bass lifetime member.
@randypewthers8983
@randypewthers8983 6 сағат бұрын
Boaters "Naw, I didn't cull any dead fish. Got 5 alive."
@chadaaron9661
@chadaaron9661 Күн бұрын
I had a co-angler call Ron Lappin (tournament director), during a Toyota event at Okeechobee, and reported to him that I wasn't giving him his half of the day in the front of the boat! But not only did he not know the rules, he also cast over my shoulder 3 times that day, his line landing on my shoulder or head. The last time it happened he didn't get his lure back. 😅 But, most Cos we're great.
@jasonmitchell8211
@jasonmitchell8211 Күн бұрын
As much money and time the boaters put into these opens I think it’s the right call regardless of reason. Now they just have to worry about the other boaters being on the up and up👀.
@MekyeBarnes
@MekyeBarnes Күн бұрын
cheating will be rampant
@jasonmitchell8211
@jasonmitchell8211 Күн бұрын
@@MekyeBarnes I hope not. Maybe they will have marshals
@Mjones8383
@Mjones8383 Күн бұрын
Most co anglers and Marshalls dont know the rules anyway😂
@bigdawg580
@bigdawg580 Күн бұрын
Merry Christmas Todd. Keep smashing them.
@flockofmooosen2825
@flockofmooosen2825 14 сағат бұрын
I fished as a co last year in the opens. Live scope didnt really matter, I still enjoyed it and always had a good experience with boaters. My issue with this, is i already signed up for opens next year as a co. Its only been 10 days from when they opened registration for cos to them making this decision. They clearly were thinking about this before hand. Now i already paid my deposit and havent heard from them on a refund and sent them an email asking about it. Been fishing BASS events since Junior bassmaster tournaments in 2009, gives me a sour taste in my mouth of how they waited until after opening registration to announce they are no longer having co anglers. Some last minute decision making is not the best look
@bobbycolson1957
@bobbycolson1957 Күн бұрын
Co anglers with patches and championship and sponsors is what messed things up...pro ams. Just show up and fish was the way to go
@BWOUTDOORS
@BWOUTDOORS Күн бұрын
ONLY IN TEAM TOUR- THEY SHOULD BE IN AND WEIGHT THE FISH FOR BOTH OF THE CATCH AND GET BOTH SPLIT THE MONEY.
@russb296
@russb296 Күн бұрын
Would love to see someone organize a team trail with divisions based on location that would eventually lead to a Championship event...
@philliphill4901
@philliphill4901 Күн бұрын
May want to consider Fisher of Men. Generally 5 events that leads to a division event that leads to a National Event.
@Mjones8383
@Mjones8383 Күн бұрын
They're out there
@TheFishdoctor1952
@TheFishdoctor1952 20 сағат бұрын
Media Bass.
@russb296
@russb296 19 сағат бұрын
@@TheFishdoctor1952 not really an option when you live in the Northeast
@duanemansel5704
@duanemansel5704 Күн бұрын
Nothing like leading after the first day and then finding a boat with yesterday's co-angler setting on your spot the next morning. It sucks.
@chadjohnson6407
@chadjohnson6407 Күн бұрын
Merry Christmas to you and yours!
@brianprice7645
@brianprice7645 Күн бұрын
I used to fish as co angler in a club (have a boat now). I used to practice with my neighbor and the guy I was fishing with in the tournament got mad that I wouldn't tell him wear we taught them in practice. Probably wouldn't have me go with him if I did. Had to point out to him that we out fished them anyway. Some things you just don't do.
@bgood419
@bgood419 Күн бұрын
I've had a hard time with coanglers in some cases especially with older anglers because they aren't into the stop and go and stop and go quickly at different spots. By the time they get ready to fish I'm about ready to leave again so instead of making it hard on them I just slow down and sometimes end up wasting a lot of time doing things I normally wouldn't have. Then if they get frustrated, they start chirping all of their opinions constantly like they know more than a guy that's been there all week. It throws me off mentally in a major way. Then I've also had coanglers figure out the perfect color for the day and end up catching more than me and win the MLF event lol That is a treat though because I love it when my coanglers do good!
@trextrextrex
@trextrextrex Күн бұрын
Great . Probably saved me some money on gear and fees
@youtv7299
@youtv7299 Күн бұрын
The game is changing fast. I do like to fish solo however the poor co anglers are the odd men out. I believe that FFS is the one man boat catalyst that eliminated them. Hard truth, everybody's knows PR and sponsorship money is of BASS higher importants than mentorship. However FFS does help level the playing field for those who can afford to go pro. Good or bad, in many ways technology has push us into the era of individualism.
@jeb4836
@jeb4836 Күн бұрын
I think the biggest issue for tournament fishing is … how does a tournament organization make enough profit based on the sponsor dollars and entry fees to make good profit that exceeds the risks and bs h need to put up with to run these tournaments ? It’s a tough racket and probably why your favorite trail ended. Not with the money it brought to the organization running it. Enjoy these tournaments while u can.
@DennisDuffy-n8g
@DennisDuffy-n8g Күн бұрын
Still have bass nation the bfls and the Toyota series I guess 👍
@BenC-77
@BenC-77 Күн бұрын
Always a level headed explanation to emotional issues when you make a video.
@tomsmith9212
@tomsmith9212 Күн бұрын
Hi Todd, MLF in Bassmasters have been dead for a few years now no one cares about tournament anglers their popsicle sticks up their butts KZbinrs and influencers run bass fishing now with live scope everyone’s on the same Plainfield Bass Fishing is brand new and it’s in infancy state site Fishing. Everyone is on a level Plainfield now get with it or get left behind is what we say.
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
How is this directed at me, what do you mean get with it? I’m way ahead of you on all of this been saying it for years🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@timg185
@timg185 Күн бұрын
Wonder how long it takes for Garmin to come out with a portable live. Scope for co anglers .
@joewinkler2168
@joewinkler2168 Күн бұрын
I've beeusing my portable Garmin for years now ice fishing
@timg185
@timg185 Күн бұрын
Yeah , I just don’t know how you mount the transducer on the back of another guys boat . You would need to be able to turn the transducer and fish at the same time.
@dannylamb9041
@dannylamb9041 Күн бұрын
Years back
@stevenjanuchowski5578
@stevenjanuchowski5578 Күн бұрын
I would only fish an open to knock something off my bucket list
@NMTCCT
@NMTCCT Күн бұрын
I will say the idea of helping to reduce the amount of boat pressure on lakes are reduced by having Co anglers, now all these guys are going to buy boats or jump in as a boater (boat dealers are going to score) but it will increase boat pressure more tournaments and new bass clubs. But if I was a co angler and I fished with a boater who showed me a new fishing hole I would use it in future, just part of the whole fishing environment.
@rawhide3985
@rawhide3985 Күн бұрын
Livescope, is why bass got rid of the co angler. Nobody wants to sit on the back of a boat and throw the Dead water. Especially with the amount of money that you pay to be a co-angler in the bath system.
@basstex6703
@basstex6703 Күн бұрын
You are right on. Your thoughts are spot on. I use to fish tournaments and found same problem with co anglers on multi day tournaments.
@allencasal
@allencasal Күн бұрын
I have caught most co’s on a spot we fished together. That’s why I never fish draw tournaments anymore.
@steverichardson8655
@steverichardson8655 Күн бұрын
🍼
@Really-cq2uw
@Really-cq2uw Күн бұрын
So you exploit public resources for personal gain, but complain if anyone fishes “your” spots. What do you think the cos are paying for? To learn, whether it’s techniques, or spots, they are trying to learn.
@MJ_Bass
@MJ_Bass Күн бұрын
@@Really-cq2uwyou saying this is a perfect example of why co-angling is dying….
@adambrodahl9849
@adambrodahl9849 Күн бұрын
Man this is already a problem at every level. Most of our local tournaments are now single man . No more team in working together in comradery. I hate fishing alone . I love being able to fish with my buddies. But bass couldn't keep back boaters so they had to do something to make it fair for everyone!
@gtuck147
@gtuck147 Күн бұрын
I agree made lots of new friends that I practiced with and fished with. Great memories!!!!!
@davidsteadman3336
@davidsteadman3336 Күн бұрын
What's amazing is that the so-called professional fisherman isn't a professional fisherman . Their just rich guys. Their the new all about me movement, that's it. Professional fishermen aren't professional at all. Most every day, fishermen can be just as good, just don't have the money.
@johnnyweaver1300
@johnnyweaver1300 Күн бұрын
I was going to say just go to team tournaments, way more fun, Merry 🤶
@Really-cq2uw
@Really-cq2uw Күн бұрын
Simple right? Any good anglers out there wanna team up with a total stranger….anyone…. ? Ok
@bobbycolson1957
@bobbycolson1957 Күн бұрын
With all the opens guys fussing about co anglers and Co's fussing about anglers this is one time B.A.S.S. should have made everyone happy..Not!!! Lol
@SEIBERFISH
@SEIBERFISH 2 сағат бұрын
I've never understood the appeal of the coangler in tournaments. The only thing that's made sense to have them was to keep people from cheating and there was still plenty of that going on. Now we just need to get them out of the BFL's
@MassReelFishing
@MassReelFishing Күн бұрын
How are you supposed to fish from the back when the guy up front is scoping? Blaming Covid is wild.
@MJ_Bass
@MJ_Bass Күн бұрын
Bed fishing any better?
@MekyeBarnes
@MekyeBarnes Күн бұрын
@@MJ_Bass yeah it's much better, had one of my best tournament days in the back behind a guy who was locked in on bedding smallmouth. I was dragging a c-rig and drop shot off the ledge behind him and caught 13lbs of smallmouth. Not every fish is on bed at the same time and usually the bigger ones stay off deeper anyways.
@MassReelFishing
@MassReelFishing Күн бұрын
@@MJ_Bassyou tell me
@Kylewatchesstuff
@Kylewatchesstuff Күн бұрын
The boaters can’t salvage gas money from their co’s anymore, sucks for them LOL
@ronknight7863
@ronknight7863 Күн бұрын
They're going to lose alot of money.
@jeremypope9929
@jeremypope9929 Күн бұрын
Agreed
@jonathanbarksdale8595
@jonathanbarksdale8595 Күн бұрын
I am not very good. But man I hated co anglers in the ABA tournaments. I get the whole they keep it honest but, not a fan. And guys that do it to make money or become a pro it's tough on them as well. If you need to learn fish a team trail.
@gtuck147
@gtuck147 Күн бұрын
I feel bad for those guys like me that have to put in vacation ahead of the new year. If I fished them this year I would have put in for those days off prior to this decision. That would have sucked
@TOKENSMOKESALOT
@TOKENSMOKESALOT Күн бұрын
Aaaand, some co-anglers have the connections to get your boat towed 10 miles back to the launch ASAP and save a tournament. lol. No really, I agree with you on this. I was just poking fun at you..
@TOKENSMOKESALOT
@TOKENSMOKESALOT Күн бұрын
This is Paul on the Red River BTW. I have actually done one of the things you talked about. One of my first BASS Opens I paired up with Bradley Hallman on Day 1, way back in the day. He taught me about the Shakey Head on day 1. I spanked them all the way through championship day in that one. Best finish ever. I have used that technique over the years to make most of my tournament money. Keep telling it like it is Todd.
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
What’s up Paul. This is a prime example guys, met Paul at an Open and we practiced together. I’ll have to tell everyone the story about that next time. Breakdowns, towed in by the police, good times
@Juicdude37
@Juicdude37 Күн бұрын
Prestige part of bass (qualifying for classic or elites) is definitely more appealing than the bpt in my opinion
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
Guys that fish Toyotas aren’t trying to qualify for BPT. They are doing it for the money.
@jeb4836
@jeb4836 Күн бұрын
Ffs created this situation. I have an entire garage full of tackle and 40 rods and reels and I don’t use any of it anymore other than my drop shots and keitechs and FFS baits now. None of us need to be dragged behind a scooter all day and only be allowed to keep 3 fish. I’d rather Marshall in the elites.
@steverichardson8655
@steverichardson8655 Күн бұрын
🍼
@muthafukajones1513
@muthafukajones1513 Күн бұрын
Perfect. That’s why you coanglers are gone. Hope you’re happy. Now no more bitching.
@wwp2213
@wwp2213 Күн бұрын
I think this may be another repercussion of FFS ..and Co's whining about fishing behind in FFS tournaments 100%
@ErnieAdamson
@ErnieAdamson Күн бұрын
Why wouldn’t they whine?
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
They had a reason to whine because they had no chance it’s a different way to fish. However, the best way to whine is not show up. I don’t blame them
@steverichardson8655
@steverichardson8655 Күн бұрын
​@@ErnieAdamson🍼
@frankcastle9476
@frankcastle9476 Күн бұрын
If you've never been stuck in the back of a boat on the lake end of Pickwick (no structure at all) with an angler who uses ffs as their main tool, then your blessed.
@ErnieAdamson
@ErnieAdamson Күн бұрын
@@wwp2213 Steve… I’m not a co angler cowboy.. but can definitely see why someone would “whine” or just not fish in the back.. hints no co angler in bass. People like you are exactly why this great sport is in bad shape.
@scottclark1168
@scottclark1168 Күн бұрын
It would be cool to be a co angler if it was a team deal,like teaming up with a pro for the entirety of the tournament,split winnings 60/40 with the pro,more co anglers would sign up knowing they get to team up with a pro for 3days that would be fun as hell,in my opinion
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
Just curious what advantage would a boater have to get a stranger that might not be able to fish that great, did no practicing, and then split winnings? I only see one example of where that would be interesting but you might not like that answer.
@scottclark1168
@scottclark1168 Күн бұрын
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 lol the boater probably wouldn't have much of an advantage,Im just all for team tourney s just seem like more fun,and teaming up with a pro would be cool,definitely no advantage for by the pro cause he could get screwed big time sometimes,probablymost of the time,there's noway I could ever be a co,I'm like you I just couldn't dobit,I'd rather be the boater,lol,they pay out part would be tricky for sure,especially if pro catches all the fish lol
@billpatterson6249
@billpatterson6249 Күн бұрын
One of the selling points of bein a co-angler had always been the opportunity to learn. Not much to learn behind an angler scopin. Not against it. Just sayin. Elite tournament circuits are in trouble, in my opinion.
@F.Ronnie
@F.Ronnie Күн бұрын
Thanks Todd.
@danmonahan8594
@danmonahan8594 Күн бұрын
I got to kinda disagree with co anglers never being an advantage. I started fishing as a co angler as a learning experience. In Florida it’s different. There’s very few guys that can go out and win or be in contention just scoping. I’ve had times where something has changed and I couldn’t get bit, or my boater couldn’t get but, doing what I was doing, or what they were doing in practice. Either I, or my co angler either threw something different or targeted something different in the grass and cracked the code and figure it out . That either clued me, or my boater when I was a co angler in. I was able to position my boat either spot lock or power poling down in a way that we both had an opportunity when there was a big school in that area and we both just crushed in them that day. One of those times it was a kid that was fishing his first BFL ever, and that kid did everything a co angler should do, I was like 17th or 18th out a 200+ boat in event ( which I thing is respectable ) he had a top 10 and seeing that kids face during and after weigh in made my day vs how I did. On the other hand, I’ve had a few co anglers that I just couldn’t wait until the day was over to get them off my boat. This whole no co angler deal, the ABAs did it first and they sold it as a marketing deal. It definitely made me want to fish them more. That’s a double edge sword seeing how I started as a co. The problem is there is a lot of co anglers that want to go out and their whole goal is to out fish the boater like they got something to prove. You got a lot of bad apples that have ruined it for others. My opinion though is when you got guys that are trying to qualify for the opens don’t need to have that distraction in the opens. Toyotas are a little different like you said but there is still some guys trying to qualify for the invitationals but then that adds another level before you get to the BBT on the MLF side
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
I literally said they are an advantage for some and that’s why it’s not fair at that level. I also said that there is an advantage in practice as well, it’s a huge advantage. I’m not sure where you got that.
@danmonahan8594
@danmonahan8594 23 сағат бұрын
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 I apologize if I misheard or misunderstood you.
@LanceEdmonds-o8p
@LanceEdmonds-o8p Күн бұрын
Does anyone think bass will still require two anglers for high school tournaments?
@Mjones8383
@Mjones8383 Күн бұрын
They don't require 2 anglers, they require a captain 1 or 2 anglers, if 1 another person as a spectator or Marshall. I captain my nephew and he fishes all BASS tournaments alone, my dad will go as a Marshall
@LanceEdmonds-o8p
@LanceEdmonds-o8p Күн бұрын
​@Mjones8383 w With fl bass nation one angler would only get half the points affecting state and nationals I do believe.
@martys4814
@martys4814 Күн бұрын
Live scope is ruining it for everyone….if they fix this is tournaments will be done…
@BSFISHING-b4w
@BSFISHING-b4w Күн бұрын
I almost put my $$$ down after Christmas for Sam Rayburn
@myownlane8409
@myownlane8409 29 минут бұрын
BASS should have been honest instead of making excuses. They said “F” the past and tradition. By the way, I’m a past BASS Coangler that stopped when FFS took over. It’s another dishonest and weird decision by BASS in the last few months.
@LeeEstel
@LeeEstel 23 сағат бұрын
I appreciate your take, but it’s 100 percent live scope related. One used to be able to get in the boat with a “pro” and learn something. Now you cant. It’s a waste of money for co anglers. I get your argument, makes allot of sense. But the “grass roots” part of BASS is gone. It’s a rich man’s game now plane and simple
@macdaddyblues1
@macdaddyblues1 Күн бұрын
BASS keeps shooting themselves in the foot on just about every issue that comes up. The fact is, the co-angler program was one of the most popular for years until the cheater box came on the scene. Keep watching your "sport" tank with leadership like you have at BASS...
@johnhodson3200
@johnhodson3200 Күн бұрын
Livescope made the decision for me to not go fish bigger tournaments. Not going to sit back and watch someone catch fish. I'll stick to team tournaments at a local level.
@dannylamb9041
@dannylamb9041 Күн бұрын
Come on Todd. You have great content, but to lay it to the co angler for hole jumping, the co doesn't control the boat correct? The pros do it religiously. The largest issue we have in professional fishing IMO is the whiney and entitled pros. I think they have all forgotten that the water is public, BASS nor any pro have no exclusive right to any venue, any location on the lake. In their arrogance, if a local is sitting on a location, the pro automatically says they jumped "his" spot. Like no one ever knew of the place prior to his coming there. Go back to two pros in the boat, each with half the day. No need for Co's and the cheating is eliminated. The resource is public, taxpayer built and maintained/managed, yet somehow these self proclaimed elites think they should have priority to it.
@Bdhgzz115buty
@Bdhgzz115buty Күн бұрын
BASS and MLF are doomed. They can’t compete with millions of KZbin videos a day. RIP BASS and MLF. 😂
@errolsigue4419
@errolsigue4419 Күн бұрын
Man you got my present
@Natureboy1607
@Natureboy1607 Күн бұрын
Say what you want this sport is dwindling away . B.A.S.S. has no backbone anymore , that left when Ray left . And there are very few professionals left in this sport . 😅😅
@SparksFlyin
@SparksFlyin Күн бұрын
Just picture sitting on the back of the boat as a Co in the middle of the lake while the pro is live scoping. He isn’t there to let you scope. He is there for himself. It would and is dead ass boring
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
I agree biting as can be. However the boater is not paying money to fish a tournament for the co, not his job
@BluntTruth7
@BluntTruth7 Күн бұрын
BASS needs to either take some pages from the Kayak tournament fishing book, like measuring the bass you caught, taking a picture of your catch, sending the image to tournament officials with the proper ID and date time stamp, and release the bass back into the water where you caught it, or do what MLF does and send boaters out the gate with an official on the boat. This is why MLF and the Kayak tournaments are much better than BASS. All MLF boaters have officials ensuring that no cheating on the water occurs. As long as you have cash payouts at tournaments, you'll always have some DA trying to cheat. Will either of these tournament programs stop all cheating? No, because you still have dock talk and illegal information being passed by locals to Pros before and during the tournament. The professional anglers who fish the PRO series events have quite the conundrum and need to unite as a unified body to establish a set of rules/regulations that are enforceable with the available resources. Until this happens, you'll keep having unscrupulous people cheat during tournaments.
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
Try finding that many Marshalls, never gonna happen. The measuring of bass and sending in a picture with inches with 230 anglers you would probably have 50 guys tie. It’s not even close to being reasonable
@BluntTruth7
@BluntTruth7 13 сағат бұрын
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Ahh, you just nailed the issue on the head with BASS tournaments, you have 230 anglers. Isn't that a little excessive to have that many anglers participating in a bass fishing tournament? Hence the difference between BASS (230 anglers and unmanageable) and MLF (50 anglers with Officials on the boats and manageable). Whenever you have to big of an organization that doesn't have enough resources you lose the ability to manage and sustain it. This goes especially for trying to ensure cheating is being mitigated, which it isn't in your profession.
@joeg1709
@joeg1709 Күн бұрын
I can speak for myself, in that I stopped being a co because of ffs and it took all the fun out of it for me. But I'm not a hard core tournament guy, so it being fun was the thing for me and weaving around over 40 ft of water on 10 isn't fun for someone in the back of the boat. Pretty simple and I'm not bothered one way or the other about it, it just was my choice. But I can say that the numbers of folks like me is only growing. BASS obviously decided that the dwindling co entry money wasn't worth the effort so they are pushing co's to go to the Nation events. Makes sense, as they can structure the Nation events as a feeder to the Opens and market it that way in the hopes co's get a boat and go that way. But if it's the same ffs rules then the co's aren't going to show, so it's all a wash. The optics are now the Opens are a true AAA type tourny org and those egos don't have the excuse of a co angler on why they don't have a return on their money. The biggest issue out of all of this, in my opinion, is now there is no way to police all the anglers unless they require video in every boat and BASS isn't going to pay for the extra manpower to go through all that footage. It's going to be even more shady than it already is. But, as I said, not my problem anymore so have at it boys.
@danlaur7973
@danlaur7973 Күн бұрын
The bottom line here is that less people will be fishing the various tournaments....not good for the sport
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
Your comment made me think what good thing has happened to the sport lately?
@ryanstarzenski3072
@ryanstarzenski3072 Күн бұрын
I liked it better when less people fished. Lol. I’m kinda serious. I don’t really care about the sport though. I just like fishing. And it was more enjoyable when the lakes were less crowded
@MassReelFishing
@MassReelFishing Күн бұрын
@@toddcastledinefishing5924BASS has been putting out old clips. Higher tournament winnings with about 1/6 the cost. It’s not making these days look good, that’s for sure!
@robertpatterson3406
@robertpatterson3406 Күн бұрын
@@ryanstarzenski3072the last time I went to my favorite lake it was more crowded than I had ever seen it I usually fish it in early spring pre spawn and through the spawn and most of the time there are not many people there but we went hoping to find some bluegill on the beds and there were so many people there I couldn’t hardly believe it and they weren’t bluegill fishing so I only hope that when we go back there early spring that all of those people haven’t figured out how good the fishing is there at that time of the year .
@BWOUTDOORS
@BWOUTDOORS Күн бұрын
CO-ANG NEEDS TO BE IN THE TEAM TOUR-S NOT THE BIG TOUR PERIOD TELL NOW IT WAS JUST FR THE MONEY THEY PUT UP . IF I SPEEND 250 DAYS ON A LAKE FISHING I WOULD LIKE TO FISH ALONE - BUT IN TOUR IT HELPS WHEN THEIR IS A BACK SEATER THIS IS MY WAY TO. BUT IF I WIN OR LOSE THAT IS THE WAY IT ALL ON ME.
@Mjones8383
@Mjones8383 Күн бұрын
Dude do you not have spell check😂
@glynnreid1217
@glynnreid1217 Күн бұрын
@@Mjones8383 Makes you wonder about their educational level or if they care at all what others think of them. I always try to proof read what I post just to not prove how ignorant I may really be, lol.
@BWOUTDOORS
@BWOUTDOORS Күн бұрын
@@Mjones8383 I GUESS I HAVE TO PROFF-MY WORDS THANKS I HAVE BEEN FISHING FOR OVER 5O YRS AND GETTING MY ORDS WITH MY FA FINGERS IN THE WAY
@Really-cq2uw
@Really-cq2uw Күн бұрын
@@glynnreid1217 most bass guys think Swindle and Watson are funny guys… they also probably giggle at their own farts. I Wonder why they can’t get any non-fishing related sponsors?
@russwilliams484
@russwilliams484 Күн бұрын
So they get rid of the Co Anglers, what happens now? Do they pair the pros together in a boat, or do they all get to fish by themselves? Cause I'm thinking I don't want another pro in my boat, and I shouldn't have to share my boat if I paid to fish the tournament with someone that isn't on the same level!
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
They definitely fish by themselves, over the past couple of years if they didn’t have enough cos guys fished by themselves. Problem was it wasn’t fair that some had cos and some didn’t
@SouthLaPurrsCattery
@SouthLaPurrsCattery 5 сағат бұрын
I can tell as viewer no one watch’s watch somone watchen screen.
@williamknight5142
@williamknight5142 Күн бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@LuckyLucky-bm1pg
@LuckyLucky-bm1pg Күн бұрын
I am sure most pro's is happy that they are doing away with co-anglers. however that means also more pro's are going have to truly step up there winning.. eventually they may be forced to bring back CO's.
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
They might for sure, however I think more and more guys weren’t signing up
@MJ_Bass
@MJ_Bass Күн бұрын
I just don’t really get the point of “high level” co angling nowadays. If a guy is that committed he should get into a kayak and run his own show. If he just wants to have fun, man get into a team tournament or lower stakes club deal.
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 Күн бұрын
Agreed
@donpreller484
@donpreller484 Сағат бұрын
I guess im different than alot of guys ,if i was a coangler and drew you or some other uppe lwvel boater i probably wouldnt wven fish. Id be more interested in having you teach me. I dont mean spits i mean why is this spot good .why does a bait presented this qay catch more then another etc..
@toddcastledinefishing5924
@toddcastledinefishing5924 13 минут бұрын
I think that should be more of how it works
@rodneygreen9968
@rodneygreen9968 Күн бұрын
Co Agleslr
@lynndomby8332
@lynndomby8332 Күн бұрын
I have not joined BASS since they eliminated co’s from the elites. They don’t appreciate what co anglers do for the sport. I have met and made some great friends through the co programs. The recreational anglers are being forgotten by BASS and other circuits.
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